Trump's Lou Dobbs interview goes off the rails as he rants about his publisher struggling to find leather for his new book

Donald Trump painted a bleak picture of America while calling into a podcast hosted by former Fox Business personality Lou Dobbs on Wednesday.

Trump spent much of the interview complaining about the 2020 election, pushing debunked conspiracy theories much as Trump and Dobbs did with the birtherism smear against Barack Obama a decade earlier. The two also discussed the economy.

"Well, nobody even heard the term supply chain," Trump falsely claimed.

"We didn't sit around talking about supply chain. Now, that's all of a sudden, that's all — the two words people are using most because you can't get anything," he argued.

"You look at big grocery stores, big chains, they have empty shelves, sixty, seventy percent of their shelves are empty in some cases," he claimed. "In some cases, more than that. They can't get food, they can't get clothing."

Trump then told a story of how his publisher could not obtain animal skins for his books.

"I just did a book — which is very successful, they sold 240,000 copies and we just ordered another 240,000, I guess, or more," Trump said. "And the publisher — the printer, who is one of the biggest in the country, I think he said he has eight plants, he said, well we have one problem, we can't get paper, we can't get ink."

"Oh my gosh," Dobbs interjected.

"We can't get glue," Trump continued. "And we can't get leather, for the covers. He said, 'I've been doing this for forty years, I've never had a problem getting anything."

Trump appeared to be referring to Our Journey Together, a hardcover picture book featuring over 300 photographs of his time in office that was released in December and has sold out. It is billed as "President Donald J. Trump's first official book since leaving the White House."

Trump is the first author of Winning Team Publishing, which was co-founded in 2021 by Donald Trump, Jr.

The publisher quotes Trump, Jr. as describing the book as "truly, one of a kind," but does not list a leather-bound version of the book, which sells for $74.99. The publisher claims the book will be delivered in February if ordered now.

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