Watch: Conservative rips apart GOP claims that removing Trump from ballots is anti-democracy

The movement to disqualify Donald Trump from the presidential ballot based on Section 3 of the U.S. Constitution's 14th Amendment has so far been successful in Colorado and Maine. The Colorado Supreme Court and Maine Secretary of State Shenna Bellows have both agreed with the argument that Trump doesn't qualify for the ballots in their states because he engaged in "insurrection," although California and Michigan have decided to let Trump remain on their ballots.

Trump's defenders have been arguing that voters, not courts or state governments, need to decide whether or not he should be president again — an argument that The Bulwark's Charlie Sykes, a Never Trump conservative, addressed during a Wednesday, January 3 appearance on MSNBC's "Morning Joe."

Sykes told host Mika Brezinski, MSNBC's Willie Geist and others, "I'm very, very sympathetic to the argument that 14th Amendment disqualifies Donald Trump; I'm skeptical about how it's going to play out politically. I think there is a potential for a backlash. But the bumper-stick punditry here is that we are defending democracy by undermining democracy by taking Donald Trump off the ballot."

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The Wisconsin-based conservative went on to stress that "democracy is just not about elections — it is also about the rule of law."

Sykes explained, "If you are 32 years old and a citizen of Norway, you cannot run for president…. The liberal constitutionalism of our system says that we are a nation of laws, not of men. And I think that in some ways, the Trump folks are about to do this flip where they are saying: Look, the people who claim to be defending democracy are undermining democracy. This is a plausible argument, which is why we need to push back and say: OK, we are a democracy, but we are something else as well. And our Founders understood that deeply. They were very, very skeptical. And they created all of the separations of power and the checks and balances that basically say: Yes, we are a democracy, but we are also a nation of laws. And I think that's a point we need to make."

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