'War on due process': George Conway says there is 'no limit' to Trump’s 'moral depravity'
Conservative attorney George Conway on MSNBC on April 14, 2025 (Image: Screengrab via MSNBC / YouTube)
Attorney and activist George Conway warned a panel on "MSNBC Prime" that President Donald Trump will not stop at detaining legal immigrants like Kilmar Abrego Garcia, who is currently held offsite against judicial order: He asserted that what the president truly wants is a change in U.S. law.
“When Donald Trump says something depraved, we should believe it and we haven't reached bottom yet with him because there is no limit to his moral depravity, "said Conway, "Listen, you have to take this seriously. This is not a war on terrorists. There's no evidence this man is a terrorist. This isn't a war or a battle on the college campuses against antisemitism. That's not what this is about. This is a war on due process. He wants to be able to dictate the fates of individuals, including American citizens, without having to go to a court.”
MSNBC host Symone D. Sanders-Townsend pointed out how pro-Trump, El Salvadoran leader Nayib Bukele is the country's president only because El Salvador's Supreme Electoral Tribunal ruled he could run for reelection in spite of constitutional term limits. Since then, El Salvador has accrued the highest per capita incarceration rate in the world as the Bukele administration has arrested more than 76,000 people with a lack of due process.
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“This is who Donald Trump would like to be,” Townsend said.
Conway added that the Trump administration will only continue to defy district courts and the Supreme Court because “the courts can't enforce their own orders.”
“At the end of the day, they don't have soldiers. They don't have police. They do not have the mechanisms by which you enforce court orders, which sometimes involve throwing people who are disobeying court orders into jail,” Conway said. “But the people who do that on behalf of the courts ... work for the (U.S.) Department of Justice, who works with Pam Bondi. And Pam Bondi is sitting there while (Trump political advisor) Steven Miller is standing over his shoulder, lying his a-- off about what the Supreme Court did.”
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