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Sex and Relationships

'Bonk' Tells Us Some Amazing Things About Sex

By Don Hazen and Tana Ganeva, AlterNet. Posted April 24, 2008.


Author Mary Roach on why you're lucky that you're not a rhesus monkey and other interesting tidbits from scientific sex research.

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It turns out there is quite a bit of variability in the distance between the clitoris and the vagina.

Princess Marie Bonaparte -- great grandniece of Napoleon and an accomplished amateur scientist -- discovered this tidbit of information in her doomed quest for the elusive vaginal orgasm. Bonaparte measured the genitals of 243 women and concluded that women with a shorter span between their clitoris and vagina were more likely to orgasm during sex.

Armed with this information Bonaparte decided to subject herself -- twice -- to having her clitoris surgically moved.

Alas, it was to no avail. As we learn in Mary Roach's new book Bonk: The Curious Coupling of Science and Sex, the princesses' story did not have a happy ending. (Ironically Bonaparte moved on to psychoanalysis and became a devotee of Sigmund Freud, an arch-enemy of the clitoral orgasm).

If informational nuggets like this turn you on, then Roach's hilarious overview of sex research throughout history is for you. Bonk features hundreds of surprising and amazing facts that Roach gathered in her investigation of the science of sex. Here are just a few eye-openers: In the 1970s, Masters and Johnson observed that homosexuals were far better lovers than heterosexuals, perhaps because of gender empathy; women are more likely to have risky affairs when their hormones are peaking; rhesus monkeys climax within five seconds of entering their partner, giving new meaning to the term quickie; more than a few men throughout history have had animal testes grafted onto their genitals in the hopes of increasing their virility.

Let's be clear, though. Sex research is not an exact science, given the mysterious, unquantifiable factors like emotion, attraction and 'sexual chemistry' that influence sexuality. But some things are pretty obvious, observable, and predictable nevertheless, and we find out what happens in the laboratories of sex throughout history. It is not always a pretty picture, but one that is often hilarious.

Bonk profiles the great pioneers of the science of sex, like Alfred Kinsey and the aforementioned Masters and Johnson, as well as dozens of lesser lights who undertook brave, creative, or just plain wacky experiments in their pursuit of knowledge.

And the best part in reading this book is that Roach is damned funny. Experiencing Roach in Bonk provides the "full monty" of reading non-fiction. You are titillated, you learn hundreds of new fascinating, and sometimes ludicrous things about sex and human behavior, and you often laugh your butt off. Consider the British study that found 351 terms for penis, including "the one-eyed milkman," but only three for the clitoris, which by the way doubles in size when stimulated and is far more erogenous than the penis.

Roach goes everywhere to learn about sex -- far back into history, to foreign lands, and into territory where sex is not usually on the agenda, like among people with incapacitating spinal injuries. Here Roach highlights the pioneering work of Marcalee Sipski, and we learn that men can have sex with catheters in their penises and that orgasm is sometimes achievable in people with the most serious injuries.

We spoke with Roach over the phone about the science of sex.

How has sex research evolved over the past several decades and how has sexual understanding changed as a result?

In the seventies you had researchers like Masters and Johnson doing pure physiological sex research. When the basic processes of arousal and orgasm were figured out, or beginning to be figured out, there was less of that type of research. During the AIDS era there was a lot of research directed toward behavioral surveys and figuring out risk taking behaviors and their connection to the transmission of HIV, so a lot of money went into that area. Nowadays there's a lot more money, and a lot of sex research is devoted to coming up with therapies for sexual dysfunction, whether it's pharmaceutical or otherwise. So that's a general look at how sex research has changed since the '60s.

Much of the first few chapters are about the female orgasm and the persistent myth of the vaginal orgasm. Does the myth still persist? Do men still cling to it?

I don't know if the myth still persists. Hopefully not. It was interesting for me to see how even figures as large as Masters and Johnson came out saying 'No! There's no such thing, it's all just indirect stimulation of the clitoris, and there's no such thing as a vaginal orgasm, the clitoris is always involved.' Then came that study by Alzate where women came in and he was sort of frictioning the front wall of the vagina and reliably producing orgasms without any contribution at all from the clitoris. To me it's silly because there's not ... there are nipple orgasms, there are dream orgasms, there are people who can think themselves into orgasm. Kinsey met a woman who ... stroking her eyebrows made her have an orgasm. Everybody's wired differently. So I hope people aren't still clinging to that particular myth.

What about the G-Spot or as you say "that other erogenous zone?" Is there research about that, and what should the lovers of women know about it?

Clearly the front wall of the vagina is an erotic area and there still persists some sort of discussion about whether there is a separate structure. Can you differentiate the tissue of the g-spot from the rest of the front wall of the vagina? There are people who bicker back and forth about that. But clearly, whether or not it's a separate structure, the front has an erogenous area. If it didn't, those rabbit style vibrators wouldn't be the terrific sales item that they are.


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» How about direct stimulation? Posted by: SayBlade
Great book title.
Posted by: PJAW on Apr 24, 2008 4:04 AM   
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And nice to get a break from what has become a dreary and irritating political pageant, a completely frustrating war (occupation), and unrelenting stories of how the entire planet is about to cough us up and spit us out.

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» RE: Great book title. Posted by: kww355
But my 1st husband didn't LOOK like a Rhesus monkey (eom)
Posted by: kww355 on Apr 24, 2008 4:13 AM   
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The author may think sex
Posted by: Thucy on Apr 24, 2008 6:21 AM   
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is not on the agenda of people with spinal cord injury, but it's most certainly on the agenda of every spinal cord injured person I know (and I know quite a few).

This is just another facet of the myth that having a disability makes someone a-sexual, less interested in sex, whatever. Not true not true not true! Check out Yvonne Duffy's book "All Things are Possible" or Connie Panzarino's "The Me in the Mirror" (I think it was Connie who wrote in a poem somewhere that using a trach. tube means never having to take a pause during oral sex), or the chapter on disability in "Our Bodies Ourselves" or Irv Zola's "Missing Pieces" etc. etc. etc. "New Mobility" - a monthly magazine pretty much devoted to the spinal cord injured demographic -- seems to feature a cover story on sex and disability in every other issue. As did "Mainstream" in its heyday.

It's sad that this idea that disability necessarily precludes an interest in or ability to do sex is still so widespread, even among progressives.

Aside from this one howler, the rest of the article is quite excellent.

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» You missed it, Thucy Posted by: trappedintwilightzone
» RE: You missed it, Thucy Posted by: Thucy
be thankful you're not a cat
Posted by: zooeyhall on Apr 24, 2008 7:17 AM   
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After being brutalized by the tom, the female turns around and beats the crap out of him.

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» Or a spider Posted by: Artkansas
» RE: Or a duck Posted by: Crazy H
» RE: Or a praying mantis... Posted by: morticia
» RE: Or a praying mantis... Posted by: Danakitty
» RE: Or a Neocon Posted by: Iconoclast421
» RE: Or a Neocon Posted by: badkitty68
» RE: Or a duck Posted by: zooeyhall
Wonderful
Posted by: BST on Apr 24, 2008 7:55 AM   
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Thanks, from someone who has always been bonkers about bonking. I share the glee of flea and bee and mon-key.

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All BC pills
Posted by: Phenix on Apr 24, 2008 9:02 AM   
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A few of my friends went on the pill and experienced the exact opposite effect. One of them might have been lying since she was my ex and we were fighting but the other two were just plain friends and talked about the same issue.

Anyway, I've also read that the pill can change the preferred pheromones of a female so that while she's on the pill she'll prefer one scent but while off the pill she'll like another. I'm not sure if its true but it was an attempt to explain infidelity.

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I read my first sex manual about 45 years ago
Posted by: UnEasyOne on Apr 24, 2008 9:58 AM   
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It was full of so much crap that I knew it was crap even then - at age 13!

Nice to see good research being done. Masters and Johnson did great work - but even they never claimed to have finished the subject.

Glad to see the good effort here.

On the subject of rape fantasies. Having conducted my own informal survey, I know that most women probably have them - but I never met one that actually wanted rape. I'm guessing that virtually all men have em also - but the idea of actually forcing a terrified, crying and traumatized woman into sex fills me with horror - as it must every sane man.

Control issues are definitely an present, but I would also theorize that most fantasies are more extreme than actual desired reality - of necessity. In order to produce the desired result - absent the actual element of excitation - the stimulation must be exaggerated to be effective.

Grossly simplifying here but the girlfriend may not need a 38 inch bustline to turn the guy on - but the centerfold may. This example is only for purpose of illustration - your results may vary. : )

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Praise the clitoris
Posted by: www.suekatz.com on Apr 24, 2008 1:10 PM   
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Nice article! The clitoris is really a fascinating organ. Not only does it erect to twice or so its size, as you mentioned, it also has a massive internal root structure for which the head, the nub, is just the tip. Thanks for raising these wonderful issues.
Sue

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» We've come a long way, baby! Posted by: zooeyhall
» I wish she had Posted by: MartianBachelor
Its nothing like the sex Bu$$$hco are having in Iraq?
Posted by: Cathyc on Apr 24, 2008 3:26 PM   
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n/m

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Oh, My, GOD!
Posted by: Spock on Apr 24, 2008 5:15 PM   
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THIRTEEN minutes????? The absolutely bewildered state of people here in the U.S. where sex is concerned relates directly to many, many other things. How can a people as f----- up about one of the most basic and obvious of all things be expected to deal with anything else successfully? No wonder we are a nation in steep decline.

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and in the end,
Posted by: talkville on Apr 25, 2008 3:12 AM   
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there's fulfillment. Or not.

"The deed is all there is." - Nietzsche.

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And the myth of female ejaculation
Posted by: Gypsi on Apr 25, 2008 6:10 AM   
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There was book titled "the G-spot" that a friend gave to me, to convince me that I wasn't really from another planet. I think there is more diversity in human sexuality and human sexual response than any one author can cover. But it was nice that this article hit some of the main myths, and shot them down..
More will be revealed

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Prairie Vole Love
Posted by: fanny666 on Apr 25, 2008 9:16 AM   
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Prairie voles mate for life. Meadow voles are very promiscuous. By altering a single gene, meadow voles become monogamous, and prairie voles promiscuous.

Just an interesting thing to think about...

short article on this research

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I have always liked sex
Posted by: the man with a dog on Apr 27, 2008 12:31 AM   
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never having read any instructions on performing the "sex act" at a very early age I believe I did pretty well the first time, perhaps it went rather quickly for me me but after a great number of years I still enjoy pleasing the ladies . Many thanks for bringing a funny and lighthearted topic for discussion!

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Mary Roach is a trip!
Posted by: Longdream on Apr 27, 2008 4:44 AM   
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Her other books are both great reads: Stiff--The Curious Lives of Human Cadavers, and Spook--Science Tackles the Afterlife.

I propose this new law, to cure the country's every divisiveness:

It should be mandatory that every adult person in the country be assigned a random partner, and those two partners must give each other a successful sexual experience within one year. It could be like an at-large class project.

We start with the U.S. Congress, who are supposed to set examples for all of us.

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» RE: Mary Roach is a trip! Posted by: axolotl7
» RE: Mary Roach is a trip! Posted by: Longdream
Installed and Serviced, but the Guarantee?
Posted by: Urban Myth #3 on Apr 27, 2008 1:55 PM   
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I just read this to see if pheromones got a mention.
They didn't so, I guess the Authors still have some wonderful discoveries to make!

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