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The Intolerant States of America -- Why My Middle Name Is Now 'Hussein'
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"I think Obama would be a disaster, and there's a lot of reasons," said [Leroy] Pollard, explaining the rumors he had heard about the candidate from friends he goes camping with. "I understand he's from Africa, and that the first thing he's going to do if he gets into office is bring his family over here, illegally. He's got that racist [pastor] who practically raised him, and then there's the Muslim thing. He's just not presidential material, if you ask me." Eli Saslow
Welcome to the Intolerant States of America. Liberal elitists will read the words of Leroy Pollard, a resident of Flag City, U.S.A., and feign disgust. This arrogance betrays the truth that we are all part of Leroy Pollard, and Leroy Pollard is part of us. The first person I ran into who believed the myths about Barack Obama was not a resident of a small town like Flag City, U.S.A., but a wealthy investment banker, and the parent of a Harvard graduate.
You see, the residents of the Intolerant States of America would have you believe that intolerance is now a thing of the past, popular only among the ignorant. In this limited worldview, the original sins of the Intolerant States of America were washed away just 40 years ago by the heroes of the civil rights era.
Great victories were won then, and they were felt the world over. But to believe these victories have vanquished intolerance is to do the heroes of our past a great injustice.
It might be that it is no longer acceptable to say the "n-word" in the public sphere, but intolerance has found new ways to inject it's poison into society. In the quote above, Leroy Pollard does not once mention the fact that Obama identifies as a black male. Instead, Pollard's intolerance is directed towards residents of the majority world ("he's from Africa"), towards unauthorized migrants ("bring his family over here, illegally"), and towards Muslims ("then there's the Muslim thing"). Anti-racist advocates might argue that these phrases are just substitutes for racism, but it runs deeper than that, in my opinion. Pollard's words don't just amount to racism, they amount to nativism and religious intolerance, as well.
Intolerance did not die along with the now sanitized image of the Reverend Doctor Martin Luther King, Jr., as the residents of the United States of America would have you believe. It just mutated as it has done since time immemorial. Intolerance is not relegated to the small and backward towns of the United States of America, it is within every one of us. Like demons, lurking in our subconscious, awaiting resurrection, intolerance is summoned from the lesser halves of all of our souls.
These demons win when we see them as a thing of the past. These demons win when we see them only in the minds of others, far away from ourselves. These demons win when we fail to see them as a confluence of sentiments, where fear of Muslims, can turn to fear of migrants, can turn to fear of brown people, can turn to fear of the majority world. Daily we must religiously search our souls for these demons and work hard to find ways to stand against them.
I don't know what makes me more sad, the fact that Leroy Pollard considers African people, unauthorized migrants, and Muslims as less than worthy humans, or the fact that Barack Obama considers these rumors so damaging to his electability, that he works constantly to distance himself from these categories.
What I do know, is that there is always hope. Even in the darkest of nights there is light and all we have to do is move towards it. There is one set of Obama supporters who, rather than distance themselves, have chosen to embrace the aspect of Barack Obama's identity that is inspires so much hate. Recently, the New York Times reported a new phenomenon:
Emily Nordling has never met a Muslim, at least not to her knowledge. But this spring, Ms. Nordling, a 19-year-old student from Fort Thomas, Ky., gave herself a new middle name on Facebook.com, mimicking her boyfriend and shocking her father.
"Emily Hussein Nordling," her entry now reads.Nordling has never met a Muslim, but still she has adopted Obama's Muslim name as her own in an act of defiance against the intolerance that has sprung up as a result of Obama's candidacy. I am still undecided about who I'm going to vote for, but Nordling's act has so inspired me that I'm going to follow her lead for at least the remainder of the election season.
From now on, please refer to me as Kyle Hussein de Beausset.
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Posted by: carbon-based on Jul 2, 2008 8:40 AM
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Truth is America is probably one of the more tolerant countries around. Look at what is going on in Africa, mid east, France with their Muslim population..China - America, for it's problems is still one of the better places in that regards - was the "60's hippy movement really all just a fad?
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a condo reunion in Central Florida, a family get together in Sarasota, a pub in Chicago, a university event in Philadelphia, a golf club in California, a tour group in Iceland, etc etc etc. In every place I heard the same utterly ridiculous garbage. The one piece of intolerance I seemed to always hear was: "I wouldn't vote for a N-----". If you don't believe that this is typical in the good ole US of A, then you also believe faithfully in the tooth fairy. I agree that these spouters do not belong to some wild eyed minority. They could be your family, your pastor, your co-worker, your next door neighbor, your teacher, you doctor on and on!!
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Women who don't "behave" include women who exercise good control over their reproductive lives using modern medical technology, women who exercise good control over their finances and aren't broke or dependent and don't have kids they can't support, women who don't need men, women who have their lives under control.
That's what constitutes "not behaving" for a woman and there's a LOT of intolerance for that sort of a woman in this country.
Women who DO "behave" don't need intolerance -- they have already allowed the patriarchy to destroy them with unplanned, unsupported pregnancies, stupid "woman's" jobs, and years out of the work force, which destroys their finances and leaves them begging and dependent. That's "behaving" for women.
So, it's women who have their s---t together who attract the hatred, intolerance and bigotry by people who drag out all the ancient weapons against women -- whore, slut, bad mother, barren, cold, bitch -- just like it was the women who had property who were largely accused of witchcraft in medieval times.
We mustn't forget intolerance against women.
Jan VanDenBerg
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Posted by: John Annis on Jul 3, 2008 6:15 AM
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Let's all call ourselves Hussein. Gawd what a load of crap. That will really help the world to get along. I'm going to add Dawg Schlomo to my name and see how many new chums I get.
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The House Minority Leader's name is John. John was the name of one of the apostles. Should we suspect the Minority Leader of being a Palestinian Jew?
Should we stop teaching "algebra," since that was a tool originally developed and named by the Moslem world? Or should we just rename it "freedom math?"
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I'll bet a lot of folks will imagine that Obama is actually white, and that the media makes him look darker than he is as a "conspiracy". Hey, they actually believe far sillier things!
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Posted by: ABetterFuture on Jul 3, 2008 11:16 AM
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There are 300M people in the U.S. If you focus solely on the kooks, why are you so surprised that's all you see of "America" is kooky?
Tunnel vision much?
Without perspective, we are left to focus on our cave paintings. Get out. Find some fresh air. Develop a credible argument, and understand that people aren't monolithic, in defiance of the author's blatant stereotyping.
As far as the author's thesis is concerned, it's instructive to point out that he can only speak for himself when he makes these sorts of noises:
Intolerance isn't just popular among the ignorant. It is within every one of us.
Does that make the author intolerant? Perhaps, but most likely only willfully, selectively, and systematically misinformed. People defy attempts to be shoe-horned into the personal collectivist fantasies of others, at each and every turn.
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One sad observation: only conservative Christians are prejudiced towards other religions and even fight other "Christian" denominations. As Ghandi said, "I like your Christ. I do not like your Christians. They are so unlike your Christ."
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All countries are equally racist. America is not unique. I actually find America to be more tolerant than most.
Try to get Japan, China, South Korea, or any of those countries to accept multiculturalism.
The underlining message of this article, though not explicitely stated is: ACCEPT ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION OR YOU ARE A HATEFUL WRETCH.
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Remember the old "I have nothing against Negroes, I just wouldn't want my daughter to marry one" kind of thing also applies to the idea of having a black person (or even partially black) in the White House (oh, sorry for the pun).
The Muslim thing, of course, plays on the fears implanted by the neocons against Muslims, of course all Muslims are secret terrorists, myself included! Even Obama himself is so afraid of us that he keeps his Muslim supporters off camera and won't visit a mosque while on the campaign trail. Not to mention how vociferously he repudiates his Muslim predecessors.
By the way, I have a friend named Hussein, and my fiance's name is Osama.
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Posted by: GPFrank on Jul 4, 2008 9:09 PM
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If the writer said we all have prejudice I would agree. For instance I have prejudice against fat men, don't ask me why> But I would never act on that prejudice which is intolerance. Prejudice is a feeling but intolerance is behavior. Saying something you wouldn'd do like letting your daughter marry xxxx is behavior when nobody asked your daughter to marry xxxxx.
Now the article is about America and talks about American issues; from that aspect arguing there is intolerance on all continents is beside the point; is no argument for what is at hand; the claim of American exceptionalism which is at the root of that ignorance. There is also a right that goes along with free speech; the right to shut up, especially when one knows everyone has had three drinks.
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Posted by: Dianka on Jul 5, 2008 8:28 PM
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Poor elsewhere: Hard working, oppressed, suffering as a result of socio-economic
prejudices (blocked from opportunities, etc.)
US poor: morally/intellectually inferior, trash, responsible for their own situation and would not be poor if they would just work hard and play by all the rules; no suffering;
America's poor aren't really poor at all
What can we say about a people that uses billions of tax dollars to "ease the burdens" of the rich, but find it intolerable to provide sub-poverty level aid to the poor?
In America today, class divides people into winners and losers far more than any other factor. We provide protections to animals that we deny to the poor. Even our progressive community, keenly aware of social injustices
impacting other marginalized groups worldwide cannot see what is happening in the US, where the poor increasingly see their fundamental legal and human rights written off.
Societies select only the powerless as scapegoats. What never changes is that those who participate in the marginalization (or demonization) of any group of people don't recognize the hate/prejudiced within themselves. And that's because they believe their own intolerance is justified.
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Posted by: carbon-based on Jul 2, 2008 8:40 AM
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Truth is America is probably one of the more tolerant countries around. Look at what is going on in Africa, mid east, France with their Muslim population..China - America, for it's problems is still one of the better places in that regards - was the "60's hippy movement really all just a fad?
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Posted by: reinaldok on Jul 2, 2008 1:29 PM
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a condo reunion in Central Florida, a family get together in Sarasota, a pub in Chicago, a university event in Philadelphia, a golf club in California, a tour group in Iceland, etc etc etc. In every place I heard the same utterly ridiculous garbage. The one piece of intolerance I seemed to always hear was: "I wouldn't vote for a N-----". If you don't believe that this is typical in the good ole US of A, then you also believe faithfully in the tooth fairy. I agree that these spouters do not belong to some wild eyed minority. They could be your family, your pastor, your co-worker, your next door neighbor, your teacher, you doctor on and on!!
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Women who don't "behave" include women who exercise good control over their reproductive lives using modern medical technology, women who exercise good control over their finances and aren't broke or dependent and don't have kids they can't support, women who don't need men, women who have their lives under control.
That's what constitutes "not behaving" for a woman and there's a LOT of intolerance for that sort of a woman in this country.
Women who DO "behave" don't need intolerance -- they have already allowed the patriarchy to destroy them with unplanned, unsupported pregnancies, stupid "woman's" jobs, and years out of the work force, which destroys their finances and leaves them begging and dependent. That's "behaving" for women.
So, it's women who have their s---t together who attract the hatred, intolerance and bigotry by people who drag out all the ancient weapons against women -- whore, slut, bad mother, barren, cold, bitch -- just like it was the women who had property who were largely accused of witchcraft in medieval times.
We mustn't forget intolerance against women.
Jan VanDenBerg
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Posted by: John Annis on Jul 3, 2008 6:15 AM
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Let's all call ourselves Hussein. Gawd what a load of crap. That will really help the world to get along. I'm going to add Dawg Schlomo to my name and see how many new chums I get.
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The House Minority Leader's name is John. John was the name of one of the apostles. Should we suspect the Minority Leader of being a Palestinian Jew?
Should we stop teaching "algebra," since that was a tool originally developed and named by the Moslem world? Or should we just rename it "freedom math?"
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I'll bet a lot of folks will imagine that Obama is actually white, and that the media makes him look darker than he is as a "conspiracy". Hey, they actually believe far sillier things!
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Posted by: ABetterFuture on Jul 3, 2008 11:16 AM
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There are 300M people in the U.S. If you focus solely on the kooks, why are you so surprised that's all you see of "America" is kooky?
Tunnel vision much?
Without perspective, we are left to focus on our cave paintings. Get out. Find some fresh air. Develop a credible argument, and understand that people aren't monolithic, in defiance of the author's blatant stereotyping.
As far as the author's thesis is concerned, it's instructive to point out that he can only speak for himself when he makes these sorts of noises:
Intolerance isn't just popular among the ignorant. It is within every one of us.
Does that make the author intolerant? Perhaps, but most likely only willfully, selectively, and systematically misinformed. People defy attempts to be shoe-horned into the personal collectivist fantasies of others, at each and every turn.
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One sad observation: only conservative Christians are prejudiced towards other religions and even fight other "Christian" denominations. As Ghandi said, "I like your Christ. I do not like your Christians. They are so unlike your Christ."
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Posted by: JoshuaR on Jul 3, 2008 1:46 PM
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All countries are equally racist. America is not unique. I actually find America to be more tolerant than most.
Try to get Japan, China, South Korea, or any of those countries to accept multiculturalism.
The underlining message of this article, though not explicitely stated is: ACCEPT ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION OR YOU ARE A HATEFUL WRETCH.
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Posted by: beautifulady2003 on Jul 4, 2008 5:32 PM
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Remember the old "I have nothing against Negroes, I just wouldn't want my daughter to marry one" kind of thing also applies to the idea of having a black person (or even partially black) in the White House (oh, sorry for the pun).
The Muslim thing, of course, plays on the fears implanted by the neocons against Muslims, of course all Muslims are secret terrorists, myself included! Even Obama himself is so afraid of us that he keeps his Muslim supporters off camera and won't visit a mosque while on the campaign trail. Not to mention how vociferously he repudiates his Muslim predecessors.
By the way, I have a friend named Hussein, and my fiance's name is Osama.
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Posted by: GPFrank on Jul 4, 2008 9:09 PM
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If the writer said we all have prejudice I would agree. For instance I have prejudice against fat men, don't ask me why> But I would never act on that prejudice which is intolerance. Prejudice is a feeling but intolerance is behavior. Saying something you wouldn'd do like letting your daughter marry xxxx is behavior when nobody asked your daughter to marry xxxxx.
Now the article is about America and talks about American issues; from that aspect arguing there is intolerance on all continents is beside the point; is no argument for what is at hand; the claim of American exceptionalism which is at the root of that ignorance. There is also a right that goes along with free speech; the right to shut up, especially when one knows everyone has had three drinks.
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Posted by: Dianka on Jul 5, 2008 8:28 PM
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Poor elsewhere: Hard working, oppressed, suffering as a result of socio-economic
prejudices (blocked from opportunities, etc.)
US poor: morally/intellectually inferior, trash, responsible for their own situation and would not be poor if they would just work hard and play by all the rules; no suffering;
America's poor aren't really poor at all
What can we say about a people that uses billions of tax dollars to "ease the burdens" of the rich, but find it intolerable to provide sub-poverty level aid to the poor?
In America today, class divides people into winners and losers far more than any other factor. We provide protections to animals that we deny to the poor. Even our progressive community, keenly aware of social injustices
impacting other marginalized groups worldwide cannot see what is happening in the US, where the poor increasingly see their fundamental legal and human rights written off.
Societies select only the powerless as scapegoats. What never changes is that those who participate in the marginalization (or demonization) of any group of people don't recognize the hate/prejudiced within themselves. And that's because they believe their own intolerance is justified.
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