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Sex and Relationships

He's a Stud, She's a Slut: The Sexual Double Standard

By Jessica Valenti, Seal Press. Posted May 30, 2008.


"Slut" is applied to women engaged in any activity besides knitting, praying, or sitting perfectly still lest any sudden movements be deemed whorish.
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From the book He's a Stud, She's a Slut by Jessica Valenti. Reprinted by arrangement with Seal Press, a member of the Perseus Books Group. Copyright © 2008.

If you have a vagina, chances are someone has called you a slut at least once in your life. There's just no getting around it.

I remember the first time I heard the word "slut" -- I was in my fifth-grade science class. A certain little girl (terror) named Eleena had been making my life miserable all year in a way that only mean little girls can. She had turned all my girlfriends against me, spread rumors and the like. She walked up to me at my desk and said, "You called me a slut." I had absolutely no idea what the word meant. I just sat there, silently. She repeated herself: "You called me a slut, but you're the slut." I don't remember how long after that I found out exactly what "slut" meant, but I knew it had to be terrible and I knew I didn't want to be it.

Naturally, I'd be called a slut many times over later in life -- not unlike most girls. I was called a slut when my boobs grew faster than others'. I was called a slut when I had a boyfriend (even though we weren't having sex.) I was called a slut when I didn't have a boyfriend and kissed a random boy at a party. I was called a slut when I had the nerve to talk about sex. I was called a slut when I wore a bikini on a weekend trip with high school friends. It seems the word slut can be applied to any activity that doesn't include knitting, praying, or sitting perfectly still lest any sudden movements be deemed whorish.

Despite the ubiquity of "slut," where you won't hear it is in relation to men. Men can't be sluts. Sure, someone will occasionally call a guy "a dog," but men simply aren't judged like women are when it comes to sexuality. (And if they are, they're judged in a positive way!) Men who have a lot of sexual partners are studs, Casanovas, pimps, and players. Never sluts. In fact, when I just did a Google search for "male sluts," the first result I got was She Male Sluts DVD! I know, should have seen that coming. The point is, there isn't even a word -- let alone a concept -- to signify a male slut.

But it makes sense when you think about what the purpose of the word "slut" is: controlling women through shame and humiliation. Women's bodies are always the ones that are being vied over for control -- whether it's rape, reproductive rights, or violence against women, it's our bodies that are the battleground, not men's.

And if you don't think it's about control, consider this little bit of weirdness. The most recent incarnation of the sexual double standard being played out in a seriously creepy way is through Purity Balls. These promlike events basically have fathers take their daughters to a big fancy dance where they promise their daddy their virginity. Likewise, the father promises to be the "keeper" of his daughter's virginity until he decides to give it to her future husband. Where are the Purity Balls for men, you ask? Oh, they're there, but they're about controlling women too! Called Integrity Balls, these events focus on men not having sex because they'd be defiling someone else's "future wife"! Not because men need to be pure or be virgins -- but because they need to make sure women are virgins. Unbelievable, really.

Outside of the feminist implications of the sexual double standard, the slut/stud conundrum has always been my favorite because it just makes no sense logically. Why is a woman less of a person, or (my favorite) "dirty," because she has sex? (Heterosexual sex, that is; somehow lesbian sex isn't "real.") Does a penis have some bizarre dirtymaking power that I'm unaware of? Every time I have sex, do I lose a bit of my moral compass? "Sorry to mug you, Grandma, but I had sex twice this week!"

And let's face it -- the slut stigma isn't just dangerous to our "reputations" or to some weird-ass notion of purity. How many times has rape been discounted because a woman was deemed a slut? How many times are women called whores while their partners beat them? How often are women's sexual histories used against them in workplace harassment cases? The sexual double standard is a lot more dangerous than we'd like to think.

So ... What to Do?

First and foremost, stop calling other women sluts! It doesn't behoove us to bash each other, gals. And speak out when you hear men do the same. I'll never forget in college overhearing a conversation that my boyfriend's roommates were having. They both had slept with the same girl over the course of the year -- they called her a whore and made a joke about her vagina being "loose." I asked them why she was the bad person in this scenario -- after all, they had had casual sex with her, too. They couldn't provide an answer, but that didn't stop them from continuing to laugh. I always regretted not saying anything more. Outside of calling ourselves and others out on perpetuating the double standard, it's a hard battle. But I think if we recognize the hypocrisy of the slut/stud nonsense when we see it -- whether it's an anti-choice law or a movie that makes women who have sex look like deviants -- we're on the right road.

Excerpted from He's a Stud, She's a Slut by Jessica Valenti.

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Term of Jealousy & Endearment
Posted by: Whistler on May 30, 2008 1:29 AM   
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First and foremost, notice that she was called slut by other women mostly. The term is used for pretty women ONLY. When a woman is fat and ugly, no one ever calls them a slut. So the word - especially by other women - is used purely out of jealousy. Otherwise, it is a term of endearment and lust.

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» Sorry to burst your bubble Posted by: paulaH
» RE: Term of Jealousy & Endearment Posted by: Survivor77
» HA! Posted by: Coleman
1950s here we come again
Posted by: cordas on May 30, 2008 2:56 AM   
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Ok I am from the otherside of the pond so our cultural references will be different.... but this seems so much like a rant from the 1950s not the 21st century.

I really am sick of these garbage articles that try and stir up the "sexist" debate, as far as I am aware slut as an insult is gender neutral. It also has a sexy / teasing nature that is more female specific but that is light hearted and not meant to demean women.

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» RE: 1950s here we come again Posted by: goeswithness
» RE: 1950s here we come again Posted by: Moira61
» RE: 1950s here we come again Posted by: maestra
» RE: 1950s here we come again Posted by: radiomorning
» RE: 1950s here we come again Posted by: radiomorning
I absolutely agree
Posted by: goeswithness on May 30, 2008 3:39 AM   
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But it's more than control. From what is being said in these conversations, it is clear that a lot of it goes back to the supposition that males are naturally sexually ravenous beasts who can't be expected to make responsible decisions, while women really have no sex drive (unless they're in love), which means they're the ones who always have to make the wise choices. If a normal (small sex drive) woman has sex with a lot of different people she's desparate, has no self esteem, or is trying to get gifts. A woman who has sex just because she likes it is somehow abnormal.

I hear younger people talk like this all the time, off and on the internet. The fact that it's so rife the younger generation is particularly depressing to me. I was looking at some comments on the Sex and the City movie earlier which just reeked of this.

It's true, as a commenter said above, that it's often women saying it out of a sense of jealousy, but it certainly doesn't stop there. And it isn't just about looks - the idea that you might be holding out till you get married or at least find The One while there are other women willing to entertain The One in the meantime must really hurt. But Young men are saying it too, and often express the sentiment that they'd reject a woman with too much experience.

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the Kama Sutra says that both men and women who have had many
Posted by: Suzon on May 30, 2008 4:07 AM   
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sexual partners are devalued. I tend to agree with that.

Name-calling, however, is a sign of ignorance and/or lack of maturity.

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Don't think this isn't still around, and still harmful
Posted by: ailei on May 30, 2008 4:09 AM   
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My 12 year old daughter has been called a slut so many times that she's already starting to wear it as a badge of pride. She's not DOING anything, but the very fact that she likes to have boyfriends and isn't ashamed of it makes her the 'slut of the school'. If you think that isn't harmful and awful, you're dreaming. When she got sick for 2 weeks and came back, weak and still not feeling well, they all told her she got some 'slut disease' and she lost most of the friends she had. Because she got sick. Because she isn't ashamed to like boys and because she likes to hang around with them. But should any young woman have to deal with this? The fact that she does just makes this article all the more relevant. Thanks, Jessica, for addressing it in a way that is accessible to her (she's read your Full Frontal Feminist book - I got it for her for Yule), and incredibly appropriate to what she's going through right now.

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Here's the best way to defend yourself. Go on the offensive.
Posted by: maxpayne on May 30, 2008 4:17 AM   
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Look, if someone calls you a slut even when they know you aren't in school, ask them to define it. Chances are they won't and then nail them at it. It's called framing and reframing. There are some things the currently rigged educational system won't teach you and framing is certainly one of them. The author made a mistake of putting herself on the defensive when she should have gone on the offensive. If you only react while your enemy does the framing, then of course they'll succeed in turning your friends against you.

PEACE

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» No problemo. Posted by: maxpayne
Terms of slander
Posted by: Sushi on May 30, 2008 4:46 AM   
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If you think about it, basically most derogatory terms involve something to do with being the female. "I got screwed (or f**ked, or boned)" or any combination thereof indicates being on the receiving end and considered negative. The old aggressive, "F**k you" takes the offensive, a verbal raping and generally an "alpha" challenge. (Macaques (monkeys) display their erect penises as a visual flip-off since they cannot speak). Go through the most vulgar insults you can think of and most of them are suggestively or overtly related to being on the receiving end of masculine superior sex, and being female is derogatorily defined.

I noticed this a long time ago.

Sushi
"I lost my virginity, but I still have the box it came in."

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Slut just one of many terms used to control and punish...
Posted by: Survivor77 on May 30, 2008 4:50 AM   
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One of the things that strikes me when this topic surfaces - and I completely disagree with those who characterize the discussion as no longer relevant or who think "slut" is a term of endearment - is how infrequently discussants note that the term is used against straight women, not lesbians. I suspect lesbians aren't called sluts because they're deemed as beyond the control of hetero-gender norms, lost causes if you will. "Slut" is indeed, a term of control. In fact, "slut" is one of several terms meant to control women, meant to emphasize one kind of feminine standard as the "right way to be a woman." Think about it. When women fail to be the right kind of women, they are called sluts, bitches, whores, ball-breakers, dykes, etc. When men fail to be the right kind of man, they are called sissy-boys, fags, a mamma's boy, bastard, and any number of words we use for female genitalia, among others. What do these terms have in common, beyond how they are used? We are wedded to certain views of masculinity and femininity and when people deviate from those norms, we slap them with the worst words we have for those kinds of deviants - all words related to women (or we batter them with physical violence). The worst thing you can be in this society is a man who isn't manly enough, a woman who refuses to be controlled, or just a woman - all bad. Speaks very much to women's lesser status.

"Slut" is a term of endearment if you mean to postulate that it is endearing to be verbally coerced into the right kind of womanhood - a womanhood that is unwaveringly straight, second to men and happy to be second, and devoted to serving men via heterosexuality. Tired of these discussions? Fix the real problem. Valencia is like the person who finds a pile of crap in the middle of the road and gets blamed for noting that it stinks. Go after the crap-leaver, not the crap-finder. And, recall that when you suggest "slut" is a term of endearment, you are - without doubt - a crap-leaver.

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know who you are
Posted by: ggmurray on May 30, 2008 4:56 AM   
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Words like 'slut' have no power if you know who you are. You can see right through them to the fear and confusion of the ones uttering them. Men and women who sense their own wholeness and freedom have no need to demean or control others.

I am certain it is up to me to make my own life good. No one else can do it for me, nor can their confusions confound me. I trust my inner guidance and love the way my life unfolds.

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» RE: know who you are Posted by: Wacre
» This argument enables bullies. Posted by: KeepsonTickn
Jealousy - not true
Posted by: Survivor77 on May 30, 2008 4:59 AM   
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Women call each other slut not out of jealousy but b/c women are complicit in their own oppression, using this and other derogatory words to impose a standard of femininity that serves male dominance. It's the "can't beat 'em, don't want to get beat by 'em" strategy employed by women all the time. What comments like yours reveal, above all else, is the extent to which women are unaware of how oppressed they are and how hard they work to maintain the system that oppresses them. Valencia is right on target.

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Religious Indoctrination
Posted by: Purple Girl on May 30, 2008 4:59 AM   
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This double standard and devaluing woman goes Back to the Editing of the bible.
want to point a finger at who allowed this 'Judgement' on fellow 'creations' look to the Catholic Church. I was Born & raised Catholic- Now long since Recovered. This began really with the Jealosies of the male apostles towards Mary Magdelene.Was it not Peter (Highjacker of the Real Religion) who bitched about how Jesus paid special attention to Mary?Why becaseu they FEAR US, They don't understand US so they Devalue Us, And it has infected our Morals, Values and enlightenment Ever since.
In peagan Religions Females were Revered becaseu they were the Givers of Life and Care takers (mainly because we lactated, thus sustaining the 'offspring')Males have no such ability, and so they had to destroy and demean this 'power'.
Want to finally end 'sexism' Start with the Religions who have used it to Control it's members. How dare they speak of 'gods' necessary other half of humanity with such disdain- Is that Not heresay?Does it not Qualify as a Major Deadly SIN? Women need to turn away from these Blasphemous Institutionalizations of Sexism. How dare they Judge and condemn their Own Creators Creation! It was never their job, and NEVER their Right!

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» RE: THANK YOU Posted by: WyrdSister
» Todd Posted by: pfeifer999
Words like slut ALWAYS have power -
Posted by: Survivor77 on May 30, 2008 5:04 AM   
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...because using the term is less about one woman's sexual behaviors than it is about women's proper place as second to men. It's less about one woman and far more about policing the proper way to be women - the way that serves men and male dominance. I agree that women need to develop strong senses of who they are and emotionally prepare themselves to weather the slings and arrows of deviating from feminine norms but let's not suggest the words used to control women have no power.

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its more complicated than that
Posted by: bobson on May 30, 2008 5:14 AM   
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all true what you say but you are never going to change the way some men view women, the same people who call women sluts also pollute the environment, don't care about equal rights, think iraqi terrorists were behind 911, and they participate in just about every other mindless and negative activity available.
just don't think all men think like this, in fact, none of my friends have ever even talked like this. the problem is much larger than you make it out to be though, there is much more behind it than a double standard.
and by the way, the only people I hear use the word slut and bitch on a regular basis are women. sorry. this is just the fact of the matter. but yeah, women are seen as sluts for being sexually promiscuous and men aren't, this is true and nothing new. But again, not all women, it depends on how they carry it. Women throw around the word slut very easily, but for men I think slut does not mean a sexually strong woman it implies a sexually promiscuous woman who is a bitch as well, a woman who uses sex as currency, to get something, to get somewhere, so women like this are usually morally bankrupt across the board, not just when it comes to sex, and this is how most men use the word, and also why you hear it less from the mouths of men than women
so the only real reason that men are not sluts is that men can not use sex to get what they want for the most part, men don't really have that option, men CAN'T be sluts, if they could be they would be..but for sure in the gay community there most definitely are male sluts!

I wish the writer of this article would have thought a little bit more before publishing.

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Great article; glad it's here
Posted by: janvdb on May 30, 2008 5:21 AM   
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The extent to which this is IMPORTANT is shown by the extent to which this methodology of woman-control, in combination with others, has led to the continued lagging of women in all socioeconomic indicators -- levels of poverty, income, wage rates, exposure to sub-prime ARMs, lack of health insurance -- you name it.

It all starts with this kind of stigmatizing, controlling, limiting, down-putting garbage.

By the way, there is a word for a male slut, it's just not widely used: slutball.

Jan VanDenBerg

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A War on Words?
Posted by: craigandrew on May 30, 2008 5:40 AM   
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The war on drugs fails because we are fighting the supply and not the demand - the disease of addiction. A war on a word fails for a very similar reason; trying to stop people from saying it vs. learning to ignore it and live past it.

Everyone who chooses to live their own lives will be called many things... and nothing can change that. If you want to live your own life, your self-esteem and sense of character has to be stronger than a word.

C:)

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Males are taught by other males to hate females, female-ness, and be at best ambivalent about sex
Posted by: gendershaman on May 30, 2008 5:58 AM   
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There are no positive positive words/phrases for a sexually-active female among males. There are over a thousand negative words/phrases in the Oxford English dictionary. Some of these include: Bimbo, Bitch, Broad, Chick, Concubine, Coquette, Cum Dumpster, Fallen Woman, Fast Woman, Flirt, Floozy, Gold Digger, Harlot, Ho, Hole, Hooker, Hussy, Hustler, Jade, Lady of the Night, Loose Woman, Nymphomaniac, Piece of Ass, Pig, Playgirl, Promiscuous, Prostitute, Pushover, Puta, Quickie, Sexpot, Skank, Skeezer, Skirt, Slag, Slattern, Slut, Squaw, Strumpet, Sweat Hog, Tart, Tease, Tramp, Trickster, Trollop, Vamp, Vixen, Wanton, Whore...
Meanwhile, there are no truly negative phrases for a sexually-active male among males. Some of the positive phrases active among boys and men include: Big Man On Campus, Businessman (takin’ care of Business), Busta Hymen, Casanova, Champion, Cocksman, Daddy Long Stroke, Desperado, Diesel Man, Dirty Dog, Don Juan, Dude, Freak, Funky War God, Gigolo, God’s Gift To Women, Greek God, Hercules, Hit Man, Ho Daddy, Hustler, Ladies Man, Lady Killer, Lothario, Lounge Lizard, Mack, Mack Daddy, Pile-Driver, Pimp, Pipe-Layer, Playboy, Player, Prostitutional Engineer, Punisher, Purple-Headed Warrior, Rake, Rascal, Real Man, Romeo, Rooster, Roué, Sensualist, Sexual Athlete, Sperminator, Stallion, Stud, Suga(r) Dick, Terminator, Tomcat, Virgin Slayer, Virgin Surgeon, Wolf, Wrecking Ball...
I developed this as an exercise in the early 90's to help illuminate the double-standard that men created. No male ever went home in tears after being called a male slut or male whore. Further, no males’ reputation has suffered due to his reputed heterosexual sexual activity.
Thank you,
Joe Weinberg

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» No male reputation has suffered Posted by: countingdaisies
I object to knitters being left out of the "slut" category!
Posted by: Beck on May 30, 2008 5:59 AM   
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Don't let knitters off the hook! They're sluts as much as any other women. Look at those phallic needles. There's a reason knitting is experiencing a new popularity, and it ain't craftiness.

Here's a poem from a women's magazine of the 50s:

"Standing, riding, walking, sitting,
Wherever she goes, there goes her knitting."

A Watchbird caught you doing these awful things, and let you know you were under constant, deserved scrutiny. "Here's a Watchbird watching YOU."

This poemwas meant to teach how annoying women are when they knit. Knitting on the bus! Poking people! Knitting at home! At a PTA meeting! Control those women enjoying themselves! Embarrass them! It's a good thing that in those repressed 50s, it wasn't realized how slutty knitting can be. Now women are pretty much shamed only for horniness. Or, wait, if they work. If they're an unmarried mother who doesn't work. Oh, if their kids are in day care. And if they look a bit odd. Oh, well. Erase yourself long enough and you'll win approval eventually! It's worth the lifelong try.

Remember girls, a Watchbird is watching you right now! Guys, whatever.

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» roflmao! Posted by: stellabloo
» beautiful Posted by: bluebirdella
» LSHGMAH Posted by: pfeifer999
it's all about control?
Posted by: dsmidiman on May 30, 2008 6:00 AM   
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There are always going to be the "kids" in the corner talking foolishly about the opposite sex. It happens with males and females alike. In fact I would say that females talk more like that about males than the other way around. Males are just to stupid to do it only in the privacy of other males.

I find the interesting thing about this article and some of the responses to it is the use of the term "control". It seems to me that everything has to do with a man controlling or trying to control a woman these days. We are not living in the past. The "woman's movement" has been mainstream for years. We have raised generations of young people being blasted continuously about respecting women, women being equal with the same rights as men not possessions etc.etc. I am glad for that because it is suppose to be that way. Are there exceptions to the rule? are there still screwed up males out there? Of course. But there are screwed up females out there also.

I just feel that males have been bashed and bashed and bashed so much the last several years that most are now so confused they are just giving up (or turning gay). They try so hard to "empower" thier female counter part that they have become "wimps" They don't know what the heck to do because everything they say or do is turned into some horrific terrible thing that always ends up meaning that they have no respect for their woman and just want to "control" her in some way.

Yet we still have the bashing going on everywhere. Not only is it confusing to men it also teaches the women that THEY actually can "control" their man simply by crying wolf(which has always been the case in my mind, it's just for some reason women choose to not see it that way). Again there are exceptions to this but there are exceptions to everything.

The funny part is the more the man tries to make the woman feel empowered, respected and not controlled the weaker he is in the woman's eyes. More often than not this ends with the woman leaving the man because he has become so accommodating and passive he appears somehow weak or a "wimp" in the woman's eyes. She sets out to find someone more "exciting" "driven" "strong". It's almost like the woman see's this wild stallion and the wilder the stallion is the more she wants him. Then she works and works through manipulation mentally and physically to "tame" the wild stallion. Once she has done so he becomes this weak wimpy thing that no longer has her interest(s) It's all very sad to me.

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» RE: it's all about control? Posted by: bobson
Woman mighth have the option...
Posted by: davmills on May 30, 2008 6:07 AM   
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Men who use "slut" and "whore" frequently or perhaps at all don't really like women. Some male misogyny (not the same thing as male sexism)comes from sour grapes and ego: they did not get the attention they felt/feel they should be getting from women, and don't like them for that. They neglect the fact that women, many intelligent,might not get the attention they deserve due to stereotypes of what constitutes physical attractiviness.
However, that written, I think women are now sufficiently empowered to think twice about knowing a male if they find he uses those words quoted above-and has related attitudes.

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» No gods, No masters Posted by: Dallas Suz
Men under pressure too ...
Posted by: mtodorov_69 on May 30, 2008 6:31 AM   
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I would like to emphasize that there is a common prejudice amongst people, and yes, amongst patriarchal women as well as academically educated - that a man is at least latent homosexual if he is abstaining from sex and not "scoring" enough.

This introduces a great pressure and only example of Jesus Christ is the strength to endure and not "score" to prove oneself a "real man".

This mentality is a double-edged sword in which neither man neither women can remain pure. You can cancel the comment, but you won't cancel the facts.

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It's time men developed thicker skins
Posted by: Martin32 on May 30, 2008 6:35 AM   
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When I first saw this article I thought "fair point, but surely old news - does it really need reiterating?". Then, I saw some of the responses here and understood that, yes, this obvious point does have to be made again (and probably again and AGAIN).
It staggers me that there are so many otherwise intelligent men who feel the need to get defensive whenever a woman points out that we live in an essentially patriarchal society in which masculinity (of one particular construction) is prized, while womanhood is rejected in favour of an easily controllable and submissive "femininity". Immediately you will see men springing up, crying foul and countering with arguments ranging from the insidious ("maybe that's how it used to be, but society has changed") to the frankly ludicrous ("slut is a term of endearment" - puh-leeze!).
I think the problem is that men think that they're being accused of something here - lighten up, guys! As men, we all need to recognize that we have all benefitted from the way our society is organized and run, materially if not spiritually. I'm not trying to pretend that all men have easier lives than all women, but on average most men don't have to deal with what women have to put up with. I wouldn't live a woman's life if you paid me! Whether it's female genital mutilation, or so-called "honour killings" (my own personal cause at the moment), or simply the lack of freedom to truly express sexuality or individuality, or inequality of pay, women have to face a host of issues that men will never have to deal with. In return, we get nasal hair and prostate problems!
That doesn't mean that we, as men, are all bad people. We can't be blamed for things that we did not choose, but we can be blamed for allowing the status quo to endure, particularly if we are benefitting from it. So, next time a woman writes a feminist article, don't take it as an attack. Stop and think, consider whether it is fair, and help to build a society in which we are all free to be ourselves and pursue our own spiritual, intellectual, emotional and material fulfilment without being judged or persecuted.

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Sex control
Posted by: fdgsr on May 30, 2008 7:23 AM   
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There are many methods and modes of sex control. The original was probably violence against women and against the male who stole another male's female. Next was probably clothing -- the more the safer. Then chastity belts, and shotguns. One of the effective and milder forms of sex control was religion with a monopoly on legitimacy of sex. Finally, there are laws and legal marriages. Morality takes the form of religious retribution by God himself on any female who would be sexual for any purpose other than procreation, with any male other than the one who promised to feed cloth her and protect her offspring until they got out of hand. Then there is true morality as a personal commitment to a caring and supportive acceptance of a mate equal in status to himself or herself and true participation in the process of perpetration of the species. The male term of a man who violates women is "rapist". The male term for a woman who tempts a man to have sex with her is "slut". There are no female rapists as such because it is impossible to force a man to participate in sex against his erective impulses. Likewise there are no male prostitutes because there is too much free male sex and the supply and demand effect sets in to prevent a profit.

Self control of sex by both genders is required to ensure the quality of the reproductive act. Humans have a brain and a mind that can do that even against the advice of the hormones raging in the bodies of both male and female. Other species have more or less effective control devices. Birds and black widow spiders have the most interesting sex dances. They don't beat the waltz and foxtrot, but they are classic for each species involved. Isn't life grand? What would life be without sex? Just ask an old man or woman. You might be surprised.

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creep/slut more accurate than stud/slut
Posted by: NeverWasnt on May 30, 2008 7:25 AM   
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This article is yet another example showing that feminism is not anti-sexism. Women do not experience sexism any more often or worse than men do. The stereo types are different, yet each just as pervasive as the other, and actualy inseparatable. It's the contrast between them where the real sexism comes from. The double standards hurt both men and women. But feminism only looks at one side of the issue, and refuses to look at the other.

Much of the same behavior that would get a woman called a slut would get a man called a creep. But sluts get invited to parties, Creeps do not!

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Weenie
Posted by: weenie on May 30, 2008 7:34 AM   
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This was so evident during the political campaign. Hillary really got a bad rap. It was a joke when she was called a bitch, she was shrill (Not) and was a lowly wife in the White House. I'm one of those people who will not vote if she's not the nominee. I'm surprised women are not enraged at her treatment and the manipulation by the biased man media.

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the sexual double Standard
Posted by: pete1029 on May 30, 2008 7:40 AM   
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Whilst I agree with the sentiment of the authors article, I would like to point out that whilst the word slut is used to denigrate women there are also sexual words which are used to denigrate men also, which the author seems not to take into account. Take for instance the use of the word sleaze, this is probably the worst word that can be used to describe men and I have yet to see women called a sleaze. So it does go both ways, which the author seems to discount.

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Yessir, if there's one thing you can count on . . .
Posted by: Walks-in-Storms on May 30, 2008 7:42 AM   
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Yessir, if there's one thing you can count on from feminism, it's gravitas. The other day, I again asked a supermarket checkout clerk if he'd ever sold a tabloid newspaper or celibrity-worship magazine to a man. No, he said, never. How long had he been a checkout clerk? Seven years. In years past, the clerks (in various places nationally) had six, twelve, and eleven years in the job. Not one had ever sold a tabloid newspaper or "who's sleeping with whom in Hollywood" magazine. Yessir, if you want serious discussion of serious matters, go to feminism.

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» That's 'cuz.... Posted by: morticia
really?
Posted by: mnlefty on May 30, 2008 7:52 AM   
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I can't remember the last time I heard someone called a slut. If someone said it to me today, I would probably just laugh. There are certainly feminist issues of great importance. This is not one of them. I am trying to think of what I would do but I honestly can't picture the situation. I wouldn't say it's a term of endearment, but more along the lines of "OMG, I can't believe I slept with Bob last night." "Girl, you slut!" Actually it's only my gay male friends I could picture saying this. I know a lot of horny guys, but I have never heard them call a woman a slut. Most guys today are happy that women have sex, because that means they get to have sex too!

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Hillary
Posted by: mnlefty on May 30, 2008 7:56 AM   
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I would love to vote for a woman.
I think she's about as progressive as Joe Lieberman.
She voted for the war.

Hillary's not a feminist. She's an opportunist. Gimme a real woman candidate... how about Barbara Boxer?

Just because Hillary calls herself a Democrat doesn't make her one.

But I don't think anyone's calling her a slut either :)

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You Missed the ACTUAL double standard
Posted by: fiddler83 on May 30, 2008 7:59 AM   
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While I will never deny that Slut is a highly pejorative for women who sleep around and that there is no stronly pejorative term for men who sleep around, the author (as well as the many on this board) missed the actual comparison for men, which is applied to men who don't date around: Loser.

If a woman is choosey about her partners or fairly chaste nobody takes issue with this. If a man cannot get a girlfriend or has only a limited number of sexual partners he is often seen as a loser. Women will often reject his sexuality completely (seeing him only as a friend or worse a creep that shouldn't even be talked to). Men and other boys will make fun of him for not being able to sleep around or for not being able to get a girlfriend.

This is a reality that most women will never deal with. If you're a a man and it's percieved that you don't live up to the playboy/stud lifestyle because you can't then it's assumed you're a loser whom women should reject. Nobody ever assumes there's something wrong with a girl who DOESN'T sleep around. But they do assume that with men.

So that's the actual comparison that should be made.

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A different sexual double standard
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In a time of financial upheaval....
Posted by: walterik on May 30, 2008 8:50 AM   
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While thousands are losing their homes, many more lose their jobs, More people are on food stamps - it is unbelievable that there are people who are concerned about such nonsense.
W.

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