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Sex and Relationships

One Woman's Journey to Conquer Her Fear of Porn

By Leslie Joseph, PopMatters. Posted June 28, 2007.


Ayn Carrillo-Gailey's new book, Pornology, chronicles a self-described good girl's exploration of the world of porn -- an industry whose fastest growing audience is women.
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"The annual U.S. porn revenue exceeds the combined revenues of all major league football, baseball and basketball franchises." -- Family Safe Media

Ayn Carrillo-Gailey would like the world, and women in particular, to know a few things about porn. For instance, according to Talk of the Nation, National Public Radio, the fastest growing segment of the porn-buying audience is women. One in three visitors to all adult websites is a woman, as reported by the Internet Filter Review. These are just a few of the many facts that the author discovered on her journey to conquer "pornophobia," an affliction diagnosed by one of her former boyfriends when she categorized porn as anti-feminist and misogynistic. Not one to back down from a challenge, as evidenced by the tales of previous adventures she shares with readers, Carrillo-Gailey set out on a mission to explore the world of porn and report back to her friends, a group who call themselves the Naughty Knitters in reference to gatherings involving knitting for charity, drinking and hashing out the issues of their varied lives. Along her journey, more and more people expressed a similar interest. Carrillo-Gailey decided to extend her audience and share the facts she had gathered. The result is Pornology.

Pornology is subtitled "Noun--1: A Good Girl's Guide to Porn; 2: The misadventures of the world's first anthroPORNologist; 3: A Hilarious Exploration of Men, Relationships, and Sex." The author's first response to being dubbed pornophobic was to do what she would in any perplexing situation. She made a list, a "porn to-do list." The book focuses on the author's journey to complete this list which includes visiting a strip club, watching porn, reading erotica, visiting a sex store, meeting a porn star, consulting a sex expert and much more. Along the way, there are relationships, dates, crises with friends and much self-discovery, albeit in the sometimes comical and unorthodox vehicle of pornography.

One of the strengths of Pornology is that its information is easily accessible. Carrillo-Gailey references real people, places and events. Readers can sit down at a computer and have a wealth of information on any of the workshops, products or personalities that the author encounters on her journey. A complementary website, thenaughtyknitters.com, offers information on the porn journey as well as advice columns and other treats. Other interesting resources are Dr. Susan Block, sex expert, and Debbie, the madam of the infamous Chicken Ranch brothel in Nevada. Carrillo-Gailey attends a blowjob workshop, a live sex-show, and initiates a vibrator-testing focus group among her friends.

Carrillo-Gailey establishes early in the book that she is a Harvard graduate, a professional, and by all assessments, a "good girl." Pornology is meant to be a reassuring guide for other women who see themselves in similar terms. Many instances in the book demonstrate the mindset from which the author was operating. In an early experience buying erotica at a bookstore, Carrillo-Gailey purchases several large and expensive academic books in order to distract from the erotica novels. She loses her cool when the clerk sees the titles and immediately surmises that she is being seen as "a kinky, horny nymphomaniac chicken slut." Her perspective may strike some readers as slightly sheltered or naïve at times, but she shows an admirable amount of determination and sense of adventure when exploring new sexual concepts in her life and research.

This is not a guide in the strict sense of the word. Readers looking for hard and fast (pun intended) information on porn and sex will be left unsatisfied. What Pornology does excel at is making porn and sexual exploration into a discussion without taboos. Carrillo-Gailey works to dispel both the ideas of being "pornophobic" or sex-crazed. She discovers after completing her 12-step porn to-do list that the journey was more about getting to know herself than becoming the world's next "sexxxpert." She ended her journey with a new boyfriend, a more open mind, and confidence in her urges and chosen pleasures. Pornology encourages readers to eliminate shame about desires, open dialogues about sex, and of course, make and conquer their own porn to-do lists.

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time warp
Posted by: edith on Jun 28, 2007 4:36 AM   
Current rating: 4    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
this can't be a "new" book. It must be an "old" book discovered in someone's attic that was written circa 1968.

Or it's a joke. A really bad joke.

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» RE: time warp Posted by: Old Me
fear of porn?
Posted by: phindrup on Jun 28, 2007 4:51 AM   
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Why not just simple distaste? Boring, ugly, limited, predictable .... but fear?

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The two distinct worlds of porn: one good, one bad.
Posted by: HughScott on Jun 28, 2007 4:55 AM   
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I see nothing wrong with printed pornography, having enjoyed the genre myself over the years -- starting with crudely cartooned “eight-page Bibles” in the late 1940s, when I was a kid.

But when explicit sexual intercourse is presented in photos, film and videotape, a different world emerges, quite often a dark and dreary one filled the dregs of society -- pimps, prostitutes, criminals, women haters and child abusers, to name a few.

Sadly for me, a movie addict and hopeless romantic, pornography has crept into mainstream films, killing imagination and sensitivity. The same thing happened to scripted screen language, with the “F” word in particular bandied about no respect for its power. But that’s just an opinion, based on uncensored viewing, thank God.

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» Right there in the text. nm Posted by: JoshuaLudd
» Huh? Posted by: adh
Constipated, Puritan Nation
Posted by: ssegallmd on Jun 28, 2007 5:44 AM   
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This is what happens when you take the most prudish people (Puritans) out of a prudish culture (Anglo), and start a new country with them. You get Jerry Falwell and Regent University and busy bodies with an excessive interest in curtailing how other people enjoy their brief stay in the universe.

To illustrate the barriers that these sniffshorts have erected to this subject, an intelligent, educated, twenty-first century female academic has to write a book of discovery about something as mundane and omnipresent as porn.

Look at the big deal America made out of Playboy Magazine and Zap Comix in the sixties and seventies. That's some dangerous stuff, there! I was warned, but I didn't listen, and look at me now - an independent thinker with a healthy, stable, loving relationship and no sexual issues. Gasp! Who knew how dangerous that stuff could be!

And just look at Europe, where sex and drugs are not the incessant preoccupation of peckish, moralizing busy bodies. It's in complete chaos and decline . . . no, wait, that's America. Keep up the good work, lust police. Have you been to the Creation Museum yet?

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» I was planning to go to the creation museum… Posted by: White middleclass male
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» Not quite! Posted by: hagwind
» No, it isn't Posted by: Cathyblj
I'm thinking of starting a blog
Posted by: H_H on Jun 28, 2007 6:30 AM   
Current rating: 2    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
It'll be called: Feminists Don't Get It.

A sample entry:

Feminists don't get that banning porn would not halt its production but would only push its production underground.

Feminists don't get that the countries which ban porn (Iran, Afghanistan) tend to be those countries in which women are treated the worst.

Feminists don't seem to get that sadomasochistic porn is a fraction of total porn.

Feminists don't seem to get that railing against porn- without ever acknowleding the existence of vast amounts of gay porn- is either dishonest or clueless.

Feminists don’t get that for men, work is not a hobby. They don’t get that for men, work is not something you do if you feel like it, something you do if it strikes your fancy, something you do to while away the hours. For the vast majority of men, not working results in being a houseless bum instead of being a housewife.

Feminists don't get how businesses work. In fact, feminists don’t get that higher paying jobs aren’t generously bestowed on men out of the goodness of their bosses’ hearts, just because they are men. Anyone who has ever worked in a normal business would know this to be true.

Feminists don’t get there'd be something seriously dysfunctional with any organisation which routinely paid men more than women just because they are men. Feminists just don’t seem to get that businesses which systematically discriminated against its female employees would go out of business pretty damned quick if they even attempted to implement such a moronic pay system. Feminists don't seem to get that every business owner hopes that the competition was dumb enough to discriminate against women.

Feminists don’t get that if a majority of women don’t want to do certain types of work, then perhaps it might be a little difficult get 50-50 gender representation in that field.

Feminists don’t get that demanding equal outcome destroys equal opportunity.

Anyone got any more suggestions?

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WOW
Posted by: VZEQICVA on Jun 28, 2007 7:29 AM   
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That sure is alot of wisdom packed into such a short article. This book should fly off the shelves. Harry Potter, look out. Thanks, ANNA

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» RE: WOW Posted by: ssegallmd
Pornography and Trafficking
Posted by: ladypriest on Jun 28, 2007 7:49 AM   
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I have always been open to and have enjoyed pornography - it has added a lot to some sexual encounters. However, I have come to understand some of the underside to pornography and can no longer see it in the same light. Today, worldwide, there are some 27 million people living in modern day slavery - victims of human trafficking. Most have been sold into the sex trade and have been forced into pornography and prostitution. Sometimes the traffickers have paid a price and the victim has to work to pay off the debt - which they will never do.

There is also heavy documentation that the money earned by pornography keeps the sex slave trade going. I just can't stand by and remain quiet enjoying the effects of pornography when I now understand how it is hurting women and children around the world.

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Francis
Posted by: Francis on Jun 28, 2007 8:02 AM   
Current rating: 4    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
The current explosion in popularity of pornography on the internet is producing some very interesting and telling social, political and economic responses. Most interesting to me, as a detester of everything right wing, is the quandary which this development has created for these masters of hypocrisy. You see, the family values fraudsters are also the party of the virulently pro-corporate predators, and pornography is huge business for mainstream corporations. From the giant hotel chains which make billions offering x-rated films (to business travelers with a free hand), to the most unlikely of corporate beneficiaries, many of which are household names one would ordinarily never associate with peddling anal intercourse movies, the Bushies have been painted into a corner, much as with the immigration quandary.

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» RIGHT ON! Posted by: Just Curious
is it positively educational?
Posted by: axjxhx on Jun 28, 2007 8:11 AM   
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i'm almost sure i've seen this book at bookstores before. how can this be new?? what exactly does this book offer that a handful of other books by people IN the profession of sex education doesn't?
if anyone out there wants a healthy perspective on sex and everything related, check out Annie Sprinkle & Susie Bright for starters........

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» No, it's dangerous at best. Posted by: frosty86
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It's really sad...
Posted by: frosty86 on Jun 28, 2007 8:14 AM   
Current rating: 4    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
...that porn has become a $12 billion-a-year industry in the U.S. which makes it larger than the hollywood movie industry, which is around $8 billion-a-year. That means a lot of men are buying and consuming porn.

And it's really sad that so many leftists and progressives defend porn with vigor. And among the queer community, porn seems to be sacrosanct, beyond critique.

Here are some resources for thinking critically about porn and what it says about men and women and the world in which we live.

Videos from the Feminist Anti-Pornography Conference in March, 2007:
Gail Dines

Robert Jensen

Content Analysis of Porn


Good Article:
"Pornography is a Left Issue" by Gail Dines and Robert Jensen

Other Resources:

Not for Sale, Feminists Resisting Prostitution and Pornography, Edited by Christine Stark and Rebecca Whisnant (North Melbourne Australia: Spinifex Press, 2004)

Pornography, The Production and Consumption of Inequity, Gail Dines, Robert Jensen, Ann Russo (New York: Routlege, 1998)

In Harm's Way, the Pornography Civil Rights Hearings, Catharine A. MacKinnon and Andrea Dworkin, eds. (Cambridge: Harvard University Press, 1997)

The Price We Pay, The Case Against Racist Speech, Hate Propaganda, and Pornography, Laura Lederer and Richard Delgado, eds. (New York: Hill & Wang, 1995)

Against Pornography, The Evidence of Harm, by Diana Russell (Berkeley: Russell Publications, 1993)

Making Violence Sexy: Feminist Views on Pornography, edited by Diana Russell (Teachers College Press, 1993)

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Women's porn
Posted by: AsteroidMiner on Jun 28, 2007 9:39 AM   
Current rating: 2    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
Reference book: "Sexual Signatures" by John Money &
Patricia Tucker
"True Confessions" type magazines and soap operas are
women's porn. Why are they never mentioned?
Women's porn is much more degrading to men than men's
porn is to women. Notice that all of the men in soap
operas are either in jail or just got out of jail or are about to
be in jail. Sexual equality requires that women's porn
receive the same treatment as men's porn.
It isn't violence on TV that causes violent teens. It is
those soap operas telling teenage boys that they are
supposed to get into jail.

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» RE: Women's porn Posted by: Aussie Kim
Go to AFF.COM
Posted by: Blade on Jun 28, 2007 10:38 AM   
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And check out the real power brokers in that community. WOMEN! Picking and chosing their men who help them be the sluts of their own dreams.
Maybe this has something to do with the rise in AIDS amoung women?

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As someone with much more extensive experience with porn I think...
Posted by: ateo on Jun 28, 2007 10:39 AM   
Current rating: 4    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
I should write a book. After all, I've been something of a connoisseur of porn since turning 11 years old. Later, with computers and the internet the wide world of porn was finally fully open to me.

I could write a nice little book about it. Go to some strip clubs, watch some porn, talk to a porn star, maybe even "interview" a prostitute about her views on the sex industry. Sounds like a good time.

As for people who say porn should be done away with, what freaking planet are you on? If there was no porn available we'd just have a lot of horny guys taking pictures with their cell phone and posting them on the 'net - oh wait, we already have that.

I mean if there was no commercially produced porn then maybe we'd have young women taking pictures of themselves in their bathroom mirror and posting them on the internet - oh wait...

I meant that if there was no commercially produced porn available we'd have a bunch of kids masturbating to the victoria's secret catalog - oh damn...

Porn is here to stay my friends.

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What a weird book
Posted by: Cruella on Jun 28, 2007 3:19 PM   
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I mean here in the UK all the men's soft-porn magazines (we call them Lad Mags) are chocca with articles about how women love to read the titles and are literally queuing up to be photographed. I can help thinking for "fear of porn" read "healthy level of self-respect and blindingly obvious realisation that this industry is not doing anybody any good". And you SURE don't need curing from that!

I never get Alternet, you wouldn't publish a "How I realised gay men SHOULDN'T be in the army" post or a "In retrospect it was a MISTAKE to let black people ride the same buses as whites" column so why do your progressive prinicles evaporate every time women's issues are raised? I remember the last one. Tut tut tut.

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With the rise of internet porn
Posted by: gistre on Jun 28, 2007 6:48 PM   
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over the past 10 years, most men have seen what great wild sex looks like. They're getting bored of their wives and girfriends who think giving a BJ is like giving gold. And their men are yawning their heads off.

These women aren't stupid; they know they better get off their backs and get creative and wild in bed, or their men will dump them out of boredom.

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no such thing as a bad girl, or good girl
Posted by: 9wicket on Jun 28, 2007 8:49 PM   
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Sexuality is nothing to be ashamed about, but the "industry" preys upon that need to keep those "dirty" thoughts underground. The thought there needs to be a book written to explore those ideas is more deplorable than the secrecy, in my opinion. The pornographers need the puritan ideal to keep them honest, just as the fire and brimstone need the "Hollywood" element to stoke the flames. While I find it sort of titilating than 1 of 3 purchasers of porn is female, that still means men buy what they can't get at home, the women are just trying to figure out what men want. Maybe if men and women were honest with each other that ratio would be even, but that would mean we stop listening to the "no, no, no" crowd and just listen to each other.

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not all feminists oppose porn!
Posted by: vasumurti on Jun 28, 2007 10:01 PM   
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It's not surprising to read that the fastest-growing audience in porn is women. My friend Chris Hull in Portland, whom I've known since college, commented that women have just as much of a prurient interest in sex as do men, but that we live in a society in which they are not able to express it as openly as men do. (Though this is starting to change--my friend Leigh Stern in San Diego enjoys frequenting a male strip club called Girls Night Out.)

There ARE feminists who don't oppose porn, just as there are pro-life feminists opposed to abortion. Writing in the Washington Post, Richard Cohen observed:

"Feminists, especially the more doctrinaire ones, are developing their own party line. They are attempting to define a movement very narrowly: You can't be against abortion. You can't be blase' about pornography. You have to be blind to the real differences between men and women. You have to be this and you have to be that. But the fact of the matter is that all you need to be a feminist is to believe in, and work for, the equality of women. It's my club, too--and anyone can join."

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lenox
Posted by: lenox on Jun 30, 2007 2:49 PM   
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So sad. Another woman collaberating in her own oppression. Clearly she is not the mother of a daughter.

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I still think...
Posted by: Blue Heron on Jul 2, 2007 5:55 PM   
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it would be hilarious to observe the behavior of men in a world bereft of women (hypothetically speaking, of course). They would have entirely new categories of porn! 'Men banging tranny bitches in prison,' 'Men banging men who are digital composites of women,' 'Men banging men cause there are no more sheep left to bang,' etc! How exciting. Not! My point being that women can say they are into porn and/or violent enactments of sex. But men are the ones who claim that their slimy, impotent little members and souls will be snuffed out (no pun intended!) without it.

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one in three?
Posted by: basinjasin on Jul 3, 2007 11:54 AM   
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There is no way that one in every three people who visit a porn site is a women. No way... I hate BS facts like that.

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Porn is bad for women
Posted by: basinjasin on Jul 3, 2007 3:15 PM   
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period...
BTW it also doesn't help relationships, or help women pay for college. These are all exceptions to the rule. Porn doesn't exist without exploitation or abused children.

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I know in the Feminist community there is a lot of high feeling about porn.
Posted by: yellow on Jul 4, 2007 9:49 PM   
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There is some very innocent porn, with just normal sex acts that don't really have political content and then there is stuff like "Max Hardcore" where there is serious abuse which is wrong. Some people are sick and need to harm others to get aroused. Others don't and just want to see normal consentual sex between people. There is no need to become sanctimonious. BTW, there is gay and lesbian "erotica" as well out there. No one say this material is sexist or oppressive.

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Sexual Repression is The Author of Porn
Posted by: Nebris on Jul 13, 2007 11:18 AM   
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In a society where sexuality is excepted in a healthy and balanced manner, porn would barely exist as there would be no need for it. It is the repression of a very basic, powerful, and positive urge for purely ideological reasons, namely Judeo-Christlamic dogma, that ultimately generates the need and desire for pornography and a whole raft of other sexual 'issues'.

In this country, Ted Haggard and Jimmy Swaggart are the poster boys for that. Get rid of Father/God Cultism and porn et al would vanish inside of two generations, along with a host of other far more pernicious evils.

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Sexual Repression is The Author of Porn
Posted by: Nebris on Jul 13, 2007 11:19 AM   
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In a society where sexuality is accepted in a healthy and balanced manner, porn would barely exist as there would be no need for it. It is the repression of a very basic, powerful, and positive urge for purely ideological reasons, namely Judeo-Christlamic dogma, that ultimately generates the need and desire for pornography and a whole raft of other sexual 'issues'.

In this country, Ted Haggard and Jimmy Swaggart are the poster boys for that. Get rid of Father/God Cultism and porn et al would vanish inside of two generations, along with a host of other far more pernicious evils.

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