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Instant Sex: Has the Digital Age Destroyed Relationships or Made Them Better?

Digitally-enabled mating culture has opened up the mate-finding process while also generating a whole new set of dating anxieties.
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We are living in the age of digitally enhanced dating and mating.

Getting a mate used to take a lot of time. First, you had to actually find possible suitors -- through work, hobbies, friends, family. Then you had to figure out when to call the person, and they would have to be sitting at home waiting for the phone to ring.

Not anymore.

"Has the search for erotic gratification ever been so efficient?" asks Wesley Lang, who just read and (sympathetically) critiqued 132 Sex Diaries, published weekly in New York magazine since April 2007. In each, using a pseudonym (i.e. The Polyamorous Paralegal), a New Yorker keeps a daily (sometimes hourly) record of his or her dating and mating activities, then a "rambunctious cacophony of commenters" pounces. Taken together, the collection cracks "open a window into the changing structure, rhythm and rhetoric of sex in New York."

Much has clearly changed. "Palliatives" like personal ads, paid dating services, dirty videos and magazines used to be "generally understood to be the province of weirdos and losers." Now, of course, palliatives are the norm. Dating sites and Facebook are ubiquitous, as is text messaging. And these social technologies have "changed the nature of the game."

Lang thinks they've made dating easier in some ways but have exacerbated the confusion and anxiety. In fact, in the taxonomy of the 800 pages of diary entries he read, what he was most struck by was anxiety.

There's the anxiety of too much choice, because someone can always be "doing something other than what one is presently doing, or being with someone other than the person one is with." And it leads to the paralyzing and "nagging urge to make each thing we do the single most satisfying thing we could possibly be doing at any moment." I feel the panic already.

There's the overwhelming anxiety about making the wrong choice.

"An inordinate number of diarists find themselves at the brink of enjoying one sexual experience, only to receive a phone call or text from another potential suitor. They become a slave to their compulsion and indecision." More than one diarist said they just didn't know who or what they wanted.

That means most people have someone on the back burner while they look for Mr. or Ms. Right, to avoid facing the terror of having no one. But while those late-night booty calls may be a temporary solace, they're also "confusing, destabilizing and exhausting."

It means people are constantly playing a high-stakes game. And while there are various complex ideas about what it takes to win, there is overwhelming agreement about how you lose: "by betraying a level of emotional enthusiasm unmatched by the other party. Everyone's afraid disarmament won't be mutual." Constant detachment is the rule.

And yet, there is the constant fear of loss. Life used to be a "linear sequence of relationships that began and ended," but now there's separation anxiety. With Facebook, you keep all of your friends, past and present, on a single page, which reminds us of their existence and makes "relationship recidivism irresistible to many."

The anthropology of the digital mating game is fascinating and complex and material for almost endless discussion (as witnessed by various comments sections).

But some people don't like complex and are wringing their hands. Kids these days! The sky is falling! Love is going to hell in and handbasket! The lightning rod critic is New York Times columnist David Brooks. As a result of this NY mag piece, he and many of his commenters are looking back through rose-colored bifocals to the days when men were men and many women weren't glad. And they want them back.

In his column this week, he says today's dating culture is like an "eBay auction," and that the interplay between technology and hook-ups is an interesting "roadblock in the country's social evolution."

Oh those kids. They're trading each other like cheap trinkets and preventing the U.S. from surging forward into the social future, um, whatever that is.

To start with, he blames the feminists. The pre-feminist era, apparently, was a time to forgo "immediate selfish interests and enmesh them with transcendent, spiritual meanings." Love was a "holy cause, an act of selfless commitment."

Luckily, there are more commenters calling for clarity than wringing their hands. Most say they must've missed that phase, even though they lived in it. One NYT commenter, Pauline, pointed out, "actually, in the pre-feminist era, the 'holy cause … self-sacrifice' bit was the female's assigned role," and the men were unofficially allowed to shop around, just without text messaging and Twitter.


Tyee Contributing Editor Vanessa Richmond writes the Schlock and Awe column about popular culture and the media. She is also the former managing editor of the Tyee.
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how do we know these diaries are real
Posted by: bryanthompson on Nov 7, 2009 8:24 AM   
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I've read these before and it seems that a fair amount of them could be fiction. This article is interesting but certainly not scientific or necessarily accurate in any sense.

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I'm more or less with Stuart, comment #68
Posted by: MartianBachelor on Nov 7, 2009 8:59 AM   
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Since it seems entirely appropriate to quote comments from the article, I'll merely do so, too:

Our evolution, as a species, seems to be in full reverse where sexuality and relationships are concerned. For centuries, the cost and responsibility of raising our offspring required social and moral contracts that actually performed an economic function...

Now, our adolescents grow into adults who are free to copulate with impunity. The so-called "liberator", birth control, has saddled women with the twin roles of guardian of the species and "pleasure center" for males. In the wake of this freedom is delayed marriage, multiple partners, intercourse for recreation alone.

I believe that the men are dealing with the whole thing a lot better than women. That is, if you overlook the permission that society has tacitly given them to break with monogamy.

Women, wired for different ends [actually, there's more to it than this], are left with the wreckage.

Everyone knows it, but no one will say it.

Feminism has co-authored the decline of the human species [not the
whole species, just parts of it] into a sex-obsessed, polygamous mess. Where there were once economic, ritualistic, and moral, and social guardrails, there are now cell phones, texts, and anonymous sexual encounters.

Even some types of apes don't have it this bad.


What Brooks is writing about, as have many others addressing the hook-up culture, is merely a symptom. Cell phones aren't the cause, but they do enable the devolution towards a feral breeding system.

No need to worry though, as the exceedingly low birth rates of groups which go this route make it a non-starter in the longer term from a darwinian perspective.

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p40n is the reason for the changes!
Posted by: strahlungsamt on Nov 7, 2009 1:24 PM   
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Forget online dating and meeting up. The real change to the world of sex today is Internet porn. I know. I was a teen in the 70s.
Back then, if you wanted porn, you had to buy it in paper form. You got maybe 10 pages of black and white images, with maybe 1 or 2 pages of color, on brown paper bag paper with the cheapest printing outside the Beano. For that you paid about $10 (when a normal magazine cost 50c).
Then there were the girls in the peep-shows. You paid about $3 for a minute's wanking before the window shut. The hookers charged $80 for 15 minutes of joy and treated you like you owed them something.
Porn movies weren't much better. You had to sit through about 20 minutes of crap to see one flash of tits for about a second. I kid you not. Google "Something Weird". They sell a lot of vintage crap. You'll see just how pathetic it was.
Then, when you got a girl, she probably didn't know how to do anything, not even shaving her body hair.
Today, I can get any porn I want off the Internet for free. Almost any kink you can imagine (and many you can't) is available as long as the performers are over 18.
Today, a high schooler is better schooled in great sex than a twenty-something was in my day.
I was reading recently how some brothel in Amsterdam was going out of business. Back in the good old days, each hooker made $3,000 per night. Now they are lucky to make $100. Also, a hooker could be over 60 and still get clients. Today, not a hope in Hell! Between quality porn (and underage Russian girls) there is no demand for the "Grand Mamans" anymore.
Besides, flights to Thailand are a lot cheaper than they used to be.
Like it or not, I'm telling it like it is.

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Insecurities
Posted by: Einherjar on Nov 8, 2009 1:34 AM   
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Men like Brooks are just paranoid and insecure about their chances of landing a good woman. He is obviously an older gent, which is going to have an influence on what he sees as "best" and monogamy is always a much better deal for the man than the woman.

In supposedly "monogamous majority" societies like we try and pretend America is, every man is generally supposed to be guaranteed a woman and supposedly, every woman is guaranteed a man.

As some of the comments in the article hinted at, being able to "shop around" used to be the sole prerogative of men and in many cases it still is, think "starter wife", but power and increasing financial independence is allowing women to choose who they want to be with.

This probably scares many men, because as many women will quickly say, good men are hard to find. Men who feel like they may not measure up(get your minds out of the gutter, people!)are probably not keen on the idea of women being able to compare and contrast freely.

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Reasonalbe
Posted by: qbeeno on Nov 8, 2009 7:52 PM   
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I dunno dude, it all seems pretty reasonable to me! I like it.

Jess
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Its been good for me.
Posted by: GreyFadora on Nov 9, 2009 3:53 AM   
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At 56, I guess I'm one of those "old guys" someone was dissing in a previous post. I was newly divorced about 12 years ago, just when internet dating was starting to take off.
I had never been a "ladies man," I have never "picked up" a woman at a bar, and although I had a few lady friends, I was always the guy who got a polite refusal when I asked them out.
I was 45 years old, employed in a male dominated industry, and had no real opportunity to meet women.
I was surprised at how easy it was to meet women online... women who wanted to go out with me. The net cut through a lot of the BS that goes along with the dating game.The first hurdle is always "Is she available?" You can assume if she is a member of a dating site, you can assume she is looking for a relationship. Just by reading her profile, you can tell if you are looking for the same thing.
Maybe it was because I was upfront and honest. I wasn't looking for a sweet young thang, but wanted a woman close to my age, and knew you don't get to my age without picking up some baggage along the way, but I was soon corresponding with half a dozen women. I had never been so popular!
I have always been a better at written communications than at verbal. Give me a keypad, and I'll steal your heart. Most of the women I corresponded with had already been married to the world's biggest a-hole, and were ready for a nice guy for a change. I had several short relationships before meeting my present wife.
By exchanging e-mails, we knew quite a bit about each other before our first date.
One of my wife's friends claimed she could never go out with someone she met online, but in reality, it was safer than going out with someone you met in a bar. On our first date, we set some ground rules: meet in a public place, we each drive our own car, and drive home in our own cars. She let a girlfriend know where she was. We met at a mall food court, and decided to go out to a movie the next night.
So, for both the person who is looking for a LTR, and for the one who wants a casual meet-up, the net is the only way to go.
I met my wife on love@aol.com. We have been together for 11 years now, so I'd say it was a success story.

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Its been good for me.
Posted by: GreyFadora on Nov 9, 2009 3:55 AM   
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At 56, I guess I'm one of those "older gents" someone was dissing in a previous post. I was newly divorced about 12 years ago, just when internet dating was starting to take off.
I had never been a "ladies man," I have never "picked up" a woman at a bar, and although I had a few lady friends, I was always the guy who got a polite refusal when I asked them out.
I was 45 years old, employed in a male dominated industry, and had no real opportunity to meet women.
I was surprised at how easy it was to meet women online... women who wanted to go out with me. The net cut through a lot of the BS that goes along with the dating game.The first hurdle is always "Is she available?" You can assume if she is a member of a dating site, you can assume she is looking for a relationship. Just by reading her profile, you can tell if you are looking for the same thing.
Maybe it was because I was upfront and honest. I wasn't looking for a sweet young thang, but wanted a woman close to my age, and knew you don't get to my age without picking up some baggage along the way, but I was soon corresponding with half a dozen women. I had never been so popular!
I have always been a better at written communications than at verbal. Give me a keypad, and I'll steal your heart. Most of the women I corresponded with had already been married to the world's biggest a-hole, and were ready for a nice guy for a change. I had several short relationships before meeting my present wife.
By exchanging e-mails, we knew quite a bit about each other before our first date.
One of my wife's friends claimed she could never go out with someone she met online, but in reality, it was safer than going out with someone you met in a bar. On our first date, we set some ground rules: meet in a public place, we each drive our own car, and drive home in our own cars. She let a girlfriend know where she was. We met at a mall food court, and decided to go out to a movie the next night.
So, for both the person who is looking for a LTR, and for the one who wants a casual meet-up, the net is the only way to go.
I met my wife on love@aol.com. We have been together for 11 years now, so I'd say it was a success story.

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modern dating
Posted by: ML561 on Nov 9, 2009 3:38 PM   
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I believe in meeting people in person. Not throught the Internet, or personal ads in the paper. There is too much danger of people misrepresenting themselves via computers or the newspaper and that can lead to disappointment or even tragedy. The man I now hope to marry I met by chance at a library. We started out as friends and the relationship blossomed (slowly) over what has now been nearly five years. We also have agreed not to have sex until marriage, which is admittedly not an easy task, but it is in synch with our religious beliefs.

We are both in our late 40's. Quite honestly, neither one of us understand this frantic need that people seem to have for "Speed dating" and "instant friendship". all of which seems to take place over the Internet and text messaging, leaving room for huge amounts of misunderstanding and hurt feelings.

Also, is it really so bad to be single? I have several friends who have never married and lead very fulfilling lives. And what is the big deal about sex? I hope I am not being vulgar, but both man and woman can do the deed all by themselves if it is simply physical gratification they are looking for...in the privacy of their own home and without emotional entanglements with another person.

If all anyone wants is a cheap and shallow sexual encounter, that can be found anywhere. But that kind of thing is soul-destroying. Also, if someone is saying that they haven't got the time to date (and therefore resort to the three-minute option or the personal ad) then what on earth would make any thinking person believe that they would have time to spend with a spouse, assuming they got one? (Course people like that wouldn't make it to the altar. They wouldn't have an hour to spare for a wedding ceremony.)

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Individuality!
Posted by: richard1 on Nov 29, 2009 12:20 PM   
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To each his own is what I'd say... some people like the fast pace and some don't...its up to the individual to decide!
Married dating site for those looking for a married affair, or in a relationship,
and looking for a marital affair or married dating.
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how do we know these diaries are real
Posted by: bryanthompson on Nov 7, 2009 8:24 AM   
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I've read these before and it seems that a fair amount of them could be fiction. This article is interesting but certainly not scientific or necessarily accurate in any sense.

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I'm more or less with Stuart, comment #68
Posted by: MartianBachelor on Nov 7, 2009 8:59 AM   
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Since it seems entirely appropriate to quote comments from the article, I'll merely do so, too:

Our evolution, as a species, seems to be in full reverse where sexuality and relationships are concerned. For centuries, the cost and responsibility of raising our offspring required social and moral contracts that actually performed an economic function...

Now, our adolescents grow into adults who are free to copulate with impunity. The so-called "liberator", birth control, has saddled women with the twin roles of guardian of the species and "pleasure center" for males. In the wake of this freedom is delayed marriage, multiple partners, intercourse for recreation alone.

I believe that the men are dealing with the whole thing a lot better than women. That is, if you overlook the permission that society has tacitly given them to break with monogamy.

Women, wired for different ends [actually, there's more to it than this], are left with the wreckage.

Everyone knows it, but no one will say it.

Feminism has co-authored the decline of the human species [not the
whole species, just parts of it] into a sex-obsessed, polygamous mess. Where there were once economic, ritualistic, and moral, and social guardrails, there are now cell phones, texts, and anonymous sexual encounters.

Even some types of apes don't have it this bad.


What Brooks is writing about, as have many others addressing the hook-up culture, is merely a symptom. Cell phones aren't the cause, but they do enable the devolution towards a feral breeding system.

No need to worry though, as the exceedingly low birth rates of groups which go this route make it a non-starter in the longer term from a darwinian perspective.

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p40n is the reason for the changes!
Posted by: strahlungsamt on Nov 7, 2009 1:24 PM   
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Forget online dating and meeting up. The real change to the world of sex today is Internet porn. I know. I was a teen in the 70s.
Back then, if you wanted porn, you had to buy it in paper form. You got maybe 10 pages of black and white images, with maybe 1 or 2 pages of color, on brown paper bag paper with the cheapest printing outside the Beano. For that you paid about $10 (when a normal magazine cost 50c).
Then there were the girls in the peep-shows. You paid about $3 for a minute's wanking before the window shut. The hookers charged $80 for 15 minutes of joy and treated you like you owed them something.
Porn movies weren't much better. You had to sit through about 20 minutes of crap to see one flash of tits for about a second. I kid you not. Google "Something Weird". They sell a lot of vintage crap. You'll see just how pathetic it was.
Then, when you got a girl, she probably didn't know how to do anything, not even shaving her body hair.
Today, I can get any porn I want off the Internet for free. Almost any kink you can imagine (and many you can't) is available as long as the performers are over 18.
Today, a high schooler is better schooled in great sex than a twenty-something was in my day.
I was reading recently how some brothel in Amsterdam was going out of business. Back in the good old days, each hooker made $3,000 per night. Now they are lucky to make $100. Also, a hooker could be over 60 and still get clients. Today, not a hope in Hell! Between quality porn (and underage Russian girls) there is no demand for the "Grand Mamans" anymore.
Besides, flights to Thailand are a lot cheaper than they used to be.
Like it or not, I'm telling it like it is.

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Insecurities
Posted by: Einherjar on Nov 8, 2009 1:34 AM   
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Men like Brooks are just paranoid and insecure about their chances of landing a good woman. He is obviously an older gent, which is going to have an influence on what he sees as "best" and monogamy is always a much better deal for the man than the woman.

In supposedly "monogamous majority" societies like we try and pretend America is, every man is generally supposed to be guaranteed a woman and supposedly, every woman is guaranteed a man.

As some of the comments in the article hinted at, being able to "shop around" used to be the sole prerogative of men and in many cases it still is, think "starter wife", but power and increasing financial independence is allowing women to choose who they want to be with.

This probably scares many men, because as many women will quickly say, good men are hard to find. Men who feel like they may not measure up(get your minds out of the gutter, people!)are probably not keen on the idea of women being able to compare and contrast freely.

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Reasonalbe
Posted by: qbeeno on Nov 8, 2009 7:52 PM   
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I dunno dude, it all seems pretty reasonable to me! I like it.

Jess
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Its been good for me.
Posted by: GreyFadora on Nov 9, 2009 3:53 AM   
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At 56, I guess I'm one of those "old guys" someone was dissing in a previous post. I was newly divorced about 12 years ago, just when internet dating was starting to take off.
I had never been a "ladies man," I have never "picked up" a woman at a bar, and although I had a few lady friends, I was always the guy who got a polite refusal when I asked them out.
I was 45 years old, employed in a male dominated industry, and had no real opportunity to meet women.
I was surprised at how easy it was to meet women online... women who wanted to go out with me. The net cut through a lot of the BS that goes along with the dating game.The first hurdle is always "Is she available?" You can assume if she is a member of a dating site, you can assume she is looking for a relationship. Just by reading her profile, you can tell if you are looking for the same thing.
Maybe it was because I was upfront and honest. I wasn't looking for a sweet young thang, but wanted a woman close to my age, and knew you don't get to my age without picking up some baggage along the way, but I was soon corresponding with half a dozen women. I had never been so popular!
I have always been a better at written communications than at verbal. Give me a keypad, and I'll steal your heart. Most of the women I corresponded with had already been married to the world's biggest a-hole, and were ready for a nice guy for a change. I had several short relationships before meeting my present wife.
By exchanging e-mails, we knew quite a bit about each other before our first date.
One of my wife's friends claimed she could never go out with someone she met online, but in reality, it was safer than going out with someone you met in a bar. On our first date, we set some ground rules: meet in a public place, we each drive our own car, and drive home in our own cars. She let a girlfriend know where she was. We met at a mall food court, and decided to go out to a movie the next night.
So, for both the person who is looking for a LTR, and for the one who wants a casual meet-up, the net is the only way to go.
I met my wife on love@aol.com. We have been together for 11 years now, so I'd say it was a success story.

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Its been good for me.
Posted by: GreyFadora on Nov 9, 2009 3:55 AM   
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At 56, I guess I'm one of those "older gents" someone was dissing in a previous post. I was newly divorced about 12 years ago, just when internet dating was starting to take off.
I had never been a "ladies man," I have never "picked up" a woman at a bar, and although I had a few lady friends, I was always the guy who got a polite refusal when I asked them out.
I was 45 years old, employed in a male dominated industry, and had no real opportunity to meet women.
I was surprised at how easy it was to meet women online... women who wanted to go out with me. The net cut through a lot of the BS that goes along with the dating game.The first hurdle is always "Is she available?" You can assume if she is a member of a dating site, you can assume she is looking for a relationship. Just by reading her profile, you can tell if you are looking for the same thing.
Maybe it was because I was upfront and honest. I wasn't looking for a sweet young thang, but wanted a woman close to my age, and knew you don't get to my age without picking up some baggage along the way, but I was soon corresponding with half a dozen women. I had never been so popular!
I have always been a better at written communications than at verbal. Give me a keypad, and I'll steal your heart. Most of the women I corresponded with had already been married to the world's biggest a-hole, and were ready for a nice guy for a change. I had several short relationships before meeting my present wife.
By exchanging e-mails, we knew quite a bit about each other before our first date.
One of my wife's friends claimed she could never go out with someone she met online, but in reality, it was safer than going out with someone you met in a bar. On our first date, we set some ground rules: meet in a public place, we each drive our own car, and drive home in our own cars. She let a girlfriend know where she was. We met at a mall food court, and decided to go out to a movie the next night.
So, for both the person who is looking for a LTR, and for the one who wants a casual meet-up, the net is the only way to go.
I met my wife on love@aol.com. We have been together for 11 years now, so I'd say it was a success story.

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modern dating
Posted by: ML561 on Nov 9, 2009 3:38 PM   
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I believe in meeting people in person. Not throught the Internet, or personal ads in the paper. There is too much danger of people misrepresenting themselves via computers or the newspaper and that can lead to disappointment or even tragedy. The man I now hope to marry I met by chance at a library. We started out as friends and the relationship blossomed (slowly) over what has now been nearly five years. We also have agreed not to have sex until marriage, which is admittedly not an easy task, but it is in synch with our religious beliefs.

We are both in our late 40's. Quite honestly, neither one of us understand this frantic need that people seem to have for "Speed dating" and "instant friendship". all of which seems to take place over the Internet and text messaging, leaving room for huge amounts of misunderstanding and hurt feelings.

Also, is it really so bad to be single? I have several friends who have never married and lead very fulfilling lives. And what is the big deal about sex? I hope I am not being vulgar, but both man and woman can do the deed all by themselves if it is simply physical gratification they are looking for...in the privacy of their own home and without emotional entanglements with another person.

If all anyone wants is a cheap and shallow sexual encounter, that can be found anywhere. But that kind of thing is soul-destroying. Also, if someone is saying that they haven't got the time to date (and therefore resort to the three-minute option or the personal ad) then what on earth would make any thinking person believe that they would have time to spend with a spouse, assuming they got one? (Course people like that wouldn't make it to the altar. They wouldn't have an hour to spare for a wedding ceremony.)

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Posted by: richard1 on Nov 29, 2009 12:20 PM   
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To each his own is what I'd say... some people like the fast pace and some don't...its up to the individual to decide!
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