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Florida's GOP Governor Outed in Explosive Documentary
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The Republican governor of Florida, Charlie Crist, who is strongly considering a run for Senate, was outed in a independent film released on Friday.
The film, Outrage, tracks the outings of prominent gay political figures, such as Crist and former Republican National Committee Chairman Ken Mehlman. It's being produced by Magnolia Pictures and will appear in Landmark Theaters across the country.
"Using some firsthand accounts of former sexual partners, old campaign footage (to occasionally humorous effect) and commentary from gay political media watchdogs, the film makes the case for each man's homosexuality, and presents his lifetime gay rights voting record," according to one reviewer. "In each instance, the disconnect is staggering.
"The usual suspects are all there: Craig, Florida Governor Charlie Crist, former New York mayor Ed Koch, former New Jersey Governor Jim McGreevey, former Rep. Ed Schrock, even dusty McCarthy relic Roy Cohn."
A top Republican leader signaled Wednesday that Crist will likely enter the Senate race for the seat being vacated by Sen. Mel Martinez (R-FL), who is quitting.
"All the signals I've been getting is that he probably will [get into the race], but I don't want to make any announcements for him, because he's the one who will ultimately decide whether to pull the trigger or not," Chairman of the National Republican Senatorial Committee and Senator John Cornyn told Politico for Thursday editions.
Cornyn told the site that if another conservative ran, he wouldn't pick sides — also eyeing the post is former Florida House Speaker Mario Rubio, who announced his candidacy Tuesday.
But Crist's only contender wouldn't be Rubio. It would also be himself.
Crist was "first" outed in a 2006 Palm Beach Post article by Bob Norman, prior to his election as governor.
A young rising star in the Republican Party has boasted to witnesses of his sexual relationship with Charlie Crist, the frontrunner in the Florida governor's race who has repeatedly denied that he is gay.
The GOP staffer, 21-year-old Jason Wetherington, told friends at separate social functions in August that he had sex with Crist, according to two credible and independent sources who heard Wetherington make the claim first-hand.
Wetherington, who recently worked as a field director for U.S. Senate candidate Katherine Harris and currently works for state representative Ellyn Bodganoff's reelection campaign, also named a man whom he said is Crist's long-term partner, a convicted thief named Bruce Carlton Jordan who also recently worked for Harris in her long-shot Senate bid.
Salon notes that Crist is the biggest fish in the film for critics.
"The person most reviewers have been focusing on is Florida Gov. Charlie Crist, who was recently married -- his engagement was announced right around the time when speculation was mounting that he could be chosen as John McCain's running mate," Salon's Alex Koppelman writes. "He was actually first outed back in 2006, by Bob Norman, a reporter for the New Times Broward-Palm Beach, who was also the first reporter to the story of former Rep. Mark Foley's sexuality, in 2003.
"And, in cases like Crist's, it means that the media knows something its audience doesn't, and is holding back information about people who are running for public office," Koppelman added. "When his engagement was announced, there was largely no discussion of what most every national political reporter was probably thinking. What there was instead was a sort of inside joke, which was easy to catch if you were in on the secret, but not obvious to most readers and viewers. MSNBC's Chris Matthews, for example, could barely suppress an impish smile when talking about the news. It's time to move past that in some form or another, and if the movie helps in that respect, then that's a good thing -- even if it's not actually outing anyone itself."
Crist was recently engaged, and then married -- quietly.
"A Republican operative close to Crist" told Politico "he expects the governor to announce his future political plans ‘very soon,' perhaps as early as Monday. Crist has said he will decide after the state legislature wraps up its session, which ends on Friday."
Full disclosure: I appear in the film, speaking in favor of outing hypocritical gay politicians. Raw Story has "outed" closeted politicians before, including Rep. David Dreier (R-CA) and the former chairman of the Republican National Committee, Ken Mehlman.
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politician on his/her intellectual capacities and definitely NOT on his/her sexual practice.
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Posted by: maryyooch on May 8, 2009 3:07 AM
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Why can't they just be honest? Because they are so power hungry and greedy. That's the only reason that I agree with this documentry. They need to start to preach what they practice, not the other way around.
GOP hypocracy at it's finest!
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Posted by: billslm on May 8, 2009 4:05 AM
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When you mention the word homophibia, these guys faces should appear on the poster. Politicians and pastors. All of them are Right Wing. Their self hatred is so huge and horrible that when they do legislate against gays they are actually legislating against themselves. All gay bashers are the same.
But really, one is simply preaching to the choir. The real people who need to hear this message are, by nature, authoritarian Republicans and therefore totally unavailable to logic.
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Posted by: Ellie1 on May 8, 2009 5:09 AM
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But then he is a Republican-they are all liars and hypocrits.
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Posted by: peterjkraus on May 8, 2009 5:14 AM
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Third, and possibly most important, the "outing" deprives the "outed" of his or her right to choose what to make public and what he or she wants to stay private -- no small matter in a country that is so vocally concerned about its individuality. All this has to do with hypocrisy.... you're right. The hypocrisy of the people doing the "outing": gay is good, but only on my terms, is what they are publicly stating. That was the premise of the Spanish Inquisition, by the way... Christianity is good, but only on the Jesuits' terms.
So get off your voyeuristic high horse and see "outing" for what it is.... it's another name for blackmail, and blackmail only works when the victim is guilty of a misdeed.
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Posted by: JohnTruth2001 on May 8, 2009 6:14 AM
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Also, these closeted gays are not being honest.
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Posted by: Gisele on May 8, 2009 7:19 AM
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Until we realize we shouldn't have to run around wearing a badge of honor stating "I'm Straight", or "I'm Gay"...these kinds of non-issues will keep rearing their ugly head. People will keep hiding their private lives (which SHOULD remain private) until the differences are erased.
How many politicians are being blackmailed because of their sexual orientation? No one really knows, but I suspect the list is much longer than we know. Should it matter? Yes, it should. As long as they're hiding, they're vulnerable to negative influence and control...and they make us more vulnerable.
Whether one is straight or gay is neither here nor there in importance, neither one is worthy of more, or less respect based on their private orientations.
*To the pols who have been outed after campaigning against the GLBT community you've lost my respect completely. I don't give a damn who you're doing behind your bedroom door, or which gender you're doing either. I want to know how the hell we're going to fix the messes that are destroying the lives of millions of people in North America. Does sex have anything to do with that?
The gay community will set itself back with this kind of trash, just when they were starting to make real inroads. There doesn't seem to much difference between this tactic and a lying politician. They're both classless.
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Finally, this leads me to observe that a couple of days ago when Stooges Boehner and Cantor came out to announce a new policy approach for the Republican Plutocracy, there was Mutt Romney posturing for the cameras and maybe planning another 180-degree turn in his political views. Worse, of all people there sat Jeb Bush. That's all the Country needs: another Bush to serve with relish the upper 1% of incomes in this Country, and before we know it, he may drag along his son George Prescott Bush to show us what a wonderful future could be ahead for all of us. God help us!
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Posted by: jareilly on May 8, 2009 8:45 AM
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BTW - what about Rove? Obvious flaming queen! Ever notice the way he gazed longingly at Bush for 8 years? The way he tolerated being publicly called "turdblossom"? Ah, Karl, the things we do for love, even unrequitted love...
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Posted by: Walks-in-Storms on May 8, 2009 9:09 AM
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Neither is a nation who deals with homosexuality as though it were merely a political matter (a matter of personal preference, for instance - ignoring all the other matters of personnal preference already regulated with society's acceptance), rather than the birth or psysiological otherwise defect that it is.
Imagine what the public - homosexuals included - would do, were the government and law to take the same approach to autism, or any of scores of mental and behavioral disorders. Announce that autism, or coprolagia, or bestiality - for instance - were merely "matters of choice" and therefore not suitable for research paid for by public funding or other expenditures.
People, humanist liberals and homosexuals themselves, who wish to pretend in order to wash their hands of their responsibility that sexual aberration is and ought be made acceptable are not the friend of the deviant.
Homosexuality is what it is, period. No rhetoric, not even by a massive political propaganda machine funded by homosexuals themselves can change that. Scientific research - the same being prevented by those it would benefit - might.
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Our half of the species experiments a lot. At least some homosexual thoughts and behaviors over a lifetime are a sexual norm among, say, all Republican governors. Most of these same guys wind up having female wives and kids. Completely gay guys are simply on the far other end of the scale.
Charlie Crist is a different animal. He's a corrupt demagogue, and he's bigoted against gay men as a group because he can score points with bigoted voters (as long as he himself can stay in the closet). His personal search for love, like Adolf Hitler's Jewish side of his ancestry, plays no part in the evil he does as a politician.
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Posted by: Quannah on May 8, 2009 6:33 PM
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Yeah... can't possibly see what's wrong with that. [sigh]
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Conspiracy of Silence
From Wikipedia:
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The Franklin child prostitution ring allegations were a series of allegations and legal actions surrounding a purported child sex ring serving high-level U.S. politicians. The scandal centered around the actions of Lawrence E. King, a former official at the Franklin Community Federal Credit Union in Omaha, Nebraska. King was eventually arrested and convicted of embezzlement charges.
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Will "Outrage" be relegated to the ether, or will this movie actually see the light of day?
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Posted by: Ahimsa on May 8, 2009 11:16 PM
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It is about exposing the cowardly double standard of people that legislate discrimination against American citizens when they are in fact of the same preference.
I don't want people of that quality writing my laws.
Let the sun in, the vampires will disintegrate.
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Posted by: cashelboylo on May 8, 2009 11:50 PM
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This must be even more clear when they knowingly marry a lying, drunken, coke-snorting, duty-dodging, closet homosexual.
Such marriages have not been all that unusual amongst America's ruling families over the past two hundred years.
The common prototype for this sort of union calls only for the production of at least one offspring (or maybe twins), lots of "happily married couple" photo-ops and dutiful wifely public support. Outside of those items, the marriage often doesn't really exist.
Jindal has three kids, Palin has five.
Exceptional amongst Professional Christian Rightist Right to Lifer Republicans.
Most have only one or two -- if any.
How do people who don't use ABORTION or CONTRACEPTION manage not to have children by the dozen?
Abstinence?
Absentmindedness?
Indolence?
Incompetence?
Impotence?
Closet Homosexuality?
As far as Bush not having any sex scandals,don't forget the fake reporter using a fake name that was working for a fake news company Jeff Gannon (a.k.a James Guckert) who in reality was a gay male prostitute whom White House logs furnished by the Secret Service show stayed overnight at the White House on many occasions - even when press conferences or briefings were not scheduled.
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Posted by: wolfandthorns on May 9, 2009 12:12 AM
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1) As I believe someone else here said, the people who need to hear it the most (the outee's themselves and the Social Right Wing talking heads) will be deaf ears.
2) Most of this is hearsay. Unless there were camera recordings of intercourse and huge coverups (which there may be a taste of, but mostly I'm seeing "I did this, he did that") there is no proof other than gut reaction.
I would love to see these awful hypocrites taken "out" as much as anyone would, but I just won't feel satisfied until I see hard evidence or admissions of guilt.
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Posted by: Razional Thinker on May 11, 2009 5:48 AM
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Gov. Chris's next campaign song?:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BMYZBVbifh8
(Sorry...humor makes my day!!)
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This only reinforces my long-held belief that homophobia is a male problem. Look at the movement against same-gender marriage -- it's clearly a male-dominated movement. They go ballistic at the thought of two men getting hitched, but don't say boo about two women doing the same thing (And isn't it interesting a solid two-thirds majority of same-gender couples who have legally tied the knot, either in marriage or civil union, have been women?).
This, to me, speaks volumes about the insecurities of the male ego.
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Posted by: maryyooch on May 8, 2009 3:07 AM
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Why can't they just be honest? Because they are so power hungry and greedy. That's the only reason that I agree with this documentry. They need to start to preach what they practice, not the other way around.
GOP hypocracy at it's finest!
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Posted by: billslm on May 8, 2009 4:05 AM
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When you mention the word homophibia, these guys faces should appear on the poster. Politicians and pastors. All of them are Right Wing. Their self hatred is so huge and horrible that when they do legislate against gays they are actually legislating against themselves. All gay bashers are the same.
But really, one is simply preaching to the choir. The real people who need to hear this message are, by nature, authoritarian Republicans and therefore totally unavailable to logic.
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Posted by: Ellie1 on May 8, 2009 5:09 AM
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But then he is a Republican-they are all liars and hypocrits.
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Posted by: peterjkraus on May 8, 2009 5:14 AM
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Third, and possibly most important, the "outing" deprives the "outed" of his or her right to choose what to make public and what he or she wants to stay private -- no small matter in a country that is so vocally concerned about its individuality. All this has to do with hypocrisy.... you're right. The hypocrisy of the people doing the "outing": gay is good, but only on my terms, is what they are publicly stating. That was the premise of the Spanish Inquisition, by the way... Christianity is good, but only on the Jesuits' terms.
So get off your voyeuristic high horse and see "outing" for what it is.... it's another name for blackmail, and blackmail only works when the victim is guilty of a misdeed.
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Posted by: JohnTruth2001 on May 8, 2009 6:04 AM
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Posted by: JohnTruth2001 on May 8, 2009 6:14 AM
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Also, these closeted gays are not being honest.
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Posted by: Gisele on May 8, 2009 7:19 AM
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Until we realize we shouldn't have to run around wearing a badge of honor stating "I'm Straight", or "I'm Gay"...these kinds of non-issues will keep rearing their ugly head. People will keep hiding their private lives (which SHOULD remain private) until the differences are erased.
How many politicians are being blackmailed because of their sexual orientation? No one really knows, but I suspect the list is much longer than we know. Should it matter? Yes, it should. As long as they're hiding, they're vulnerable to negative influence and control...and they make us more vulnerable.
Whether one is straight or gay is neither here nor there in importance, neither one is worthy of more, or less respect based on their private orientations.
*To the pols who have been outed after campaigning against the GLBT community you've lost my respect completely. I don't give a damn who you're doing behind your bedroom door, or which gender you're doing either. I want to know how the hell we're going to fix the messes that are destroying the lives of millions of people in North America. Does sex have anything to do with that?
The gay community will set itself back with this kind of trash, just when they were starting to make real inroads. There doesn't seem to much difference between this tactic and a lying politician. They're both classless.
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Posted by: micko on May 8, 2009 7:43 AM
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Posted by: fsuthai on May 8, 2009 8:08 AM
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Posted by: Midway54 on May 8, 2009 8:14 AM
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Finally, this leads me to observe that a couple of days ago when Stooges Boehner and Cantor came out to announce a new policy approach for the Republican Plutocracy, there was Mutt Romney posturing for the cameras and maybe planning another 180-degree turn in his political views. Worse, of all people there sat Jeb Bush. That's all the Country needs: another Bush to serve with relish the upper 1% of incomes in this Country, and before we know it, he may drag along his son George Prescott Bush to show us what a wonderful future could be ahead for all of us. God help us!
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Posted by: maxpayne on May 8, 2009 8:44 AM
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Posted by: jareilly on May 8, 2009 8:45 AM
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BTW - what about Rove? Obvious flaming queen! Ever notice the way he gazed longingly at Bush for 8 years? The way he tolerated being publicly called "turdblossom"? Ah, Karl, the things we do for love, even unrequitted love...
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Posted by: Walks-in-Storms on May 8, 2009 9:09 AM
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Neither is a nation who deals with homosexuality as though it were merely a political matter (a matter of personal preference, for instance - ignoring all the other matters of personnal preference already regulated with society's acceptance), rather than the birth or psysiological otherwise defect that it is.
Imagine what the public - homosexuals included - would do, were the government and law to take the same approach to autism, or any of scores of mental and behavioral disorders. Announce that autism, or coprolagia, or bestiality - for instance - were merely "matters of choice" and therefore not suitable for research paid for by public funding or other expenditures.
People, humanist liberals and homosexuals themselves, who wish to pretend in order to wash their hands of their responsibility that sexual aberration is and ought be made acceptable are not the friend of the deviant.
Homosexuality is what it is, period. No rhetoric, not even by a massive political propaganda machine funded by homosexuals themselves can change that. Scientific research - the same being prevented by those it would benefit - might.
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Posted by: huels3000 on May 8, 2009 11:36 AM
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Posted by: PaulK on May 8, 2009 1:32 PM
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Our half of the species experiments a lot. At least some homosexual thoughts and behaviors over a lifetime are a sexual norm among, say, all Republican governors. Most of these same guys wind up having female wives and kids. Completely gay guys are simply on the far other end of the scale.
Charlie Crist is a different animal. He's a corrupt demagogue, and he's bigoted against gay men as a group because he can score points with bigoted voters (as long as he himself can stay in the closet). His personal search for love, like Adolf Hitler's Jewish side of his ancestry, plays no part in the evil he does as a politician.
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Posted by: Quannah on May 8, 2009 6:33 PM
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Yeah... can't possibly see what's wrong with that. [sigh]
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Posted by: mcgoo on May 8, 2009 8:21 PM
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Conspiracy of Silence
From Wikipedia:
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The Franklin child prostitution ring allegations were a series of allegations and legal actions surrounding a purported child sex ring serving high-level U.S. politicians. The scandal centered around the actions of Lawrence E. King, a former official at the Franklin Community Federal Credit Union in Omaha, Nebraska. King was eventually arrested and convicted of embezzlement charges.
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Will "Outrage" be relegated to the ether, or will this movie actually see the light of day?
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Posted by: rancespergl on May 10, 2009 7:19 AM
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Posted by: Ahimsa on May 8, 2009 11:16 PM
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It is about exposing the cowardly double standard of people that legislate discrimination against American citizens when they are in fact of the same preference.
I don't want people of that quality writing my laws.
Let the sun in, the vampires will disintegrate.
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Posted by: cashelboylo on May 8, 2009 11:50 PM
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This must be even more clear when they knowingly marry a lying, drunken, coke-snorting, duty-dodging, closet homosexual.
Such marriages have not been all that unusual amongst America's ruling families over the past two hundred years.
The common prototype for this sort of union calls only for the production of at least one offspring (or maybe twins), lots of "happily married couple" photo-ops and dutiful wifely public support. Outside of those items, the marriage often doesn't really exist.
Jindal has three kids, Palin has five.
Exceptional amongst Professional Christian Rightist Right to Lifer Republicans.
Most have only one or two -- if any.
How do people who don't use ABORTION or CONTRACEPTION manage not to have children by the dozen?
Abstinence?
Absentmindedness?
Indolence?
Incompetence?
Impotence?
Closet Homosexuality?
As far as Bush not having any sex scandals,don't forget the fake reporter using a fake name that was working for a fake news company Jeff Gannon (a.k.a James Guckert) who in reality was a gay male prostitute whom White House logs furnished by the Secret Service show stayed overnight at the White House on many occasions - even when press conferences or briefings were not scheduled.
Cashel Boylo
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Posted by: wolfandthorns on May 9, 2009 12:12 AM
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1) As I believe someone else here said, the people who need to hear it the most (the outee's themselves and the Social Right Wing talking heads) will be deaf ears.
2) Most of this is hearsay. Unless there were camera recordings of intercourse and huge coverups (which there may be a taste of, but mostly I'm seeing "I did this, he did that") there is no proof other than gut reaction.
I would love to see these awful hypocrites taken "out" as much as anyone would, but I just won't feel satisfied until I see hard evidence or admissions of guilt.
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Posted by: Razional Thinker on May 11, 2009 5:48 AM
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Gov. Chris's next campaign song?:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BMYZBVbifh8
(Sorry...humor makes my day!!)
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Posted by: CymraegSpirit on May 11, 2009 7:09 AM
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Posted by: SkeeterVT1 on May 11, 2009 11:58 AM
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This only reinforces my long-held belief that homophobia is a male problem. Look at the movement against same-gender marriage -- it's clearly a male-dominated movement. They go ballistic at the thought of two men getting hitched, but don't say boo about two women doing the same thing (And isn't it interesting a solid two-thirds majority of same-gender couples who have legally tied the knot, either in marriage or civil union, have been women?).
This, to me, speaks volumes about the insecurities of the male ego.
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Posted by: Jdog on May 11, 2009 1:31 PM
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Posted by: debocracy on May 14, 2009 1:34 AM
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» seems like..
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