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The Internet Is No Substitute for the Dying Newspaper Industry
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The decline of newspapers is not about the replacement of the antiquated technology of news print with the lightning speed of the Internet. It does not signal an inevitable and salutary change. It is not a form of progress. The decline of newspapers is about the rise of the corporate state, the loss of civic and public responsibility on the part of much of our entrepreneurial class and the intellectual poverty of our post-literate world, a world where information is conveyed primarily through rapidly moving images rather than print.
All these forces have combined to strangle newspapers. And the blood on the floor, this year alone, is disheartening. Some 6,000 journalists nationwide have lost their jobs, news pages are being radically cut back and newspaper stocks have tumbled. Advertising revenues are dramatically falling off with many papers seeing double-digit drops. McClatchy Co., publisher of the Miami Herald, has seen its shares fall by 77 percent this year. Lee Enterprises Inc., which owns the St. Louis Post-Dispatch, is down 84 percent. Gannett Co., which publishes USA Today, is trading at nearly a 17-year low. The San Francisco Chronicle is now losing $1 million a week.
The Internet will not save newspapers. Although all major newspapers, and most smaller ones, have Web sites, and have had for a while, newspaper Web sites make up less than 10 percent of newspaper ad revenue. Analysts say that although Net advertising amounts to $21 billion a year, that amount is actually relatively small. So far, the really big advertisers have stayed away, either unsure of how to use the Internet or suspicious that it can't match the viewer attention of older media.
Newspapers, when well run, are a public trust. They provide, at their best, the means for citizens to examine themselves, to ferret out lies and the abuse of power by elected officials and corrupt businesses, to give a voice to those who would, without the press, have no voice, and to follow, in ways a private citizen cannot, the daily workings of local, state and federal government. Newspapers hire people to write about city hall, the state capital, political campaigns, sports, music, art and theater. They keep citizens engaged with their cultural, civic and political life. When I began as a foreign correspondent 25 years ago, most major city papers had bureaus in Latin America, the Middle East, Europe, Asia and Moscow. Reporters and photographers showed Americans how the world beyond our borders looked, thought and believed. Most of this is vanishing or has vanished.
We live under the happy illusion that we can transfer news-gathering to the Internet. News-gathering will continue to exist, as it does on this Web site and sites such as ProPublica and Slate, but these traditions now have to contend with a new, widespread and ideologically driven partisanship that dominates the dissemination of views and information, from Fox News to blogger screeds. The majority of bloggers and Internet addicts, like the endless rows of talking heads on television, do not report. They are largely parasites who cling to traditional news outlets. They can produce stinging and insightful commentary, which has happily seen the monopoly on opinion pieces by large papers shattered, but they rarely pick up the phone, much less go out and find a story. Nearly all reporting -- I would guess at least 80 percent -- is done by newspapers and the wire services. Take that away and we have a huge black hole.
Those who rely on the Internet gravitate to sites that reinforce their beliefs. The filtering of information through an ideological lens, which is destroying television journalism, defies the purpose of reporting. Journalism is about transmitting information that doesn't care what you think. Reporting challenges, countermands or destabilizes established beliefs. Reporting, which is time-consuming and often expensive, begins from the premise that there are things we need to know and understand, even if these things make us uncomfortable. If we lose this ethic we are left with pandering, packaging and partisanship. We are left awash in a sea of competing propaganda. Bloggers, unlike most established reporters, rarely admit errors. They cannot get fired. Facts, for many bloggers, are interchangeable with opinions. Take a look at The Drudge Report. This may be the new face of what we call news.
When the traditional news organizations go belly up we will lose a vast well of expertise and information. Our democracy will suffer a body blow. Not that many will notice. The average time a reader of The New York Times spends with the printed paper is about 45 minutes. The average time a viewer spends on The New York Times Web site is about seven minutes. There is a difference between browsing and reading. And the Web is built for browsing rather than for reading. When there is a long piece on the Internet, most of us have to print it out to get through it.
The rise of our corporate state has done the most, however, to decimate traditional news-gathering. Time Warner, Disney, Rupert Murdoch's News Corp., General Electric and Viacom control nearly everything we read, watch, hear and ultimately think. And news that does not make a profit, as well as divert viewers from civic participation and challenging the status quo, is not worth pursuing. This is why the networks have shut down their foreign bureaus. This is why cable newscasts, with their chatty anchors, all look and sound like the "Today" show. This is why the FCC, in an example of how far our standards have fallen, defines shows like Fox's celebrity gossip program "TMZ" and the Christian Broadcast Network's "700 Club" as "bona fide newscasts." This is why television news personalities, people like Katie Couric, have become celebrities earning, in her case, $15 million a year. This is why newspapers like the Los Angeles Times and Chicago Tribune are being ruthlessly cannibalized by corporate trolls like Sam Zell, turned into empty husks that focus increasingly on boutique journalism. Corporations are not in the business of news. They hate news, real news. Real news is not convenient to their rape of the nation. Real news makes people ask questions. They prefer to close the prying eyes of reporters. They prefer to transform news into another form of mindless amusement and entertainment.
A democracy survives when its citizens have access to trustworthy and impartial sources of information, when it can discern lies from truth. Take this away and a democracy dies. The fusion of news and entertainment, the rise of a class of celebrity journalists on television who define reporting by their access to the famous and the powerful, the retreat by many readers into the ideological ghettos of the Internet and the ruthless drive by corporations to destroy the traditional news business are leaving us deaf, dumb and blind.
We are cleverly entertained during our descent. We have our own version of ancient Rome's bread and circuses with our ubiquitous and elaborate spectacles, sporting events, celebrity gossip and television reality shows. Societies in decline, as the Roman philosopher Cicero wrote, see their civic and political discourse contaminated by the excitement and emotional life of the arena. And the citizens in these degraded societies, he warned, always end up ruled by a despot, a Nero or a George W. Bush.
Chris Hedges, who graduated from Harvard Divinity School and was for nearly two decades a foreign correspondent for The New York Times, is the author of "American Fascists: The Christian Right and the War on America."
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Posted by: mmckinl on Jul 22, 2008 12:31 AM
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I'm about to cancel my major daily, one of those mentioned, because I would rather donate my money to local PBS, Common Cause, Alternet, The Nation or other news outlet.
My paper has largely become just like all the rest, printing recycled corporate poppycock. I will not support such crap.
The question becomes do we support papers that spew out masses of garbage to retain a few good reporters. My answer is No, let them die, No News may be better than propaganda and lies.
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Posted by: Democratic Socialist on Jul 22, 2008 12:58 AM
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I'm GLAD the big newspapers are dying -- the sooner they all go bankrupt the better. Over 50% of any given newspaper has been for the longest time nothing more than pages upon pages of advertising that reinforces the disgusting consumerist culture that America has become, a mass-consumerism that is leading to the decline of Western culture on many levels.
Hedges states that "The decline of newspapers is about the rise of the corporate state..." -- but how is that the case when ALL of the major newspapers are, in fact, owned by corporations?
I do agree that newspapers should be a "public trust" as he states, but that idea has apparently become antiquated since many newspapers have been owned and operated by corporations for decades now. Local newspapers will continue to exist (thankfully) because they provide a true service to citizens, but again I'm very glad that all of these national and international-oriented papers are going bankrupt.
It is a shame though that news-gathering will indeed take a hit with the decline of newspapers as Hedges says because bloggers and many websites don't have the funds to send reporters out all over the world gathering news. But I am personally an anti-globalist and could care less what is happening in the streets of Bangladesh or Israel or wherever...I care about my LOCAL community, town, county, region, and state more than some far-away land.
In my opinion the decline of the corporate newspaper network is beginning to herald a new age of non-corporate/business, non-PC, and non-governmental interference in the public discussion.
The fact that Hedges used to work for the NYT and probably still has family/friends/associates who still work for other mass/mainstream coporate media publications shows this to be an article which seeks to justify the continued corporate domination of the news-media and is probably just a reflection of Hedges and other media elites who are very worried about getting a paycheck in the coming years once their corporate/consumerist rags go out of business.
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» HOGWASH! It's the DAILIES That are Dying, but the WEEKLIES are THRIVING!
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Posted by: Richard House on Jul 22, 2008 1:09 AM
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“… the citizens in these degraded societies, he warned, always end up ruled by a despot, a Nero or a George W. Bush.” Most of the world today is governed by Caesars; the effect of absolute, or great power, conferred on reckless individuals.
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Posted by: Bobsays on Jul 22, 2008 2:56 AM
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I feel no pity. It is actually coming eight years too late: it should have happened many, many years ago. You have a choice: connect with the readers, the customers, or die. Make them happy and keep them informed, or die.
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Posted by: dmaddox on Jul 22, 2008 3:21 AM
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What Hedges and his ilk should be learning from this is not that they'd better start reporting the news straight, and stop filtering and coloring and interpreting the news for the "uneducated masses". The masses really aren't all that uneducated and now have the ability to cross check the newspapers.
We've lived in five cities over the last ten years, and have declined to subscribe to any of their newspapers. After reading them for one week, and then investigating the facts for myself, I determined that they were at best giving me only half of any given story - the half that supported their "progressive" agenda. I'm not paying even fifty cents a day to bring that tripe, surrounded by masses of advertising, into my home or my mind.
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» Nonsense, 66 percent of papers are monopoly markets, and virtually all are owned by corporations
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Posted by: drricklippin on Jul 22, 2008 4:08 AM
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Until the media,law and medicine can return to their professional roots of objective reporting,justice,and healing respectively they are trapped in the business model which is destroying them.
Yes the excesses of the corporate state are responsible but the leaders in these "former professions turned businesses" should have resisted this trend more than they did.How?
And "vox populi" should demand a return to professionalism. (The tide may be turning before it's too late?)
Thanks Chris Hedges.
Dr. Rick Lippin
Southampton,Pa
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Posted by: ProgressiveManiac on Jul 22, 2008 4:51 AM
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I think it is more accurate to say:
When the traditional news organizations became corporate monsters our democracy suffered a body blow. Not that many have noticed, but democracy is struggling to survive the blow.
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Posted by: Tom Degan on Jul 22, 2008 5:11 AM
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The death of the newspaper will mean the death of an informed electorate...Oh, wait a minute, I forgot....They died years ago!
Tom Degan
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Posted by: Bobsays on Jul 22, 2008 6:02 AM
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Here is a good case study: Thomson Reuters. The Canadian Thomson newspaper group just ditched all their rag bag local newspapers, and instead went and bought Reuters, the global news service. They saw that rural Canada was no-wheres-ville and decided to get where the action is: the world's megacities. Local newspapers are not the reservoir of democracy: in fact, they are a reservoir of local wind bags, two-bit politicians and Boss Hog-style police departments. Their death is proving very enjoyable to watch.
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Posted by: war_on_tara on Jul 22, 2008 6:31 AM
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Chris Hedges and his ilk are just looking for a paycheck. (As opposed to the kind of AlterNet readers who eat cardboard, shit rainbows and don't need money for working.)
International news is irrelevant; only local news is important. Or is it, local newspapers are shitrags & only national and international news is important.
Newspapers lost their individuality decades ago. Or is it, newspapers are all pushing the same agenda.
The proverb about the 6 blind men and the elephant comes to mind.
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Posted by: Sojourner on Jul 22, 2008 6:37 AM
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The press gave us the invasion of Iraq. What evidence is there that the press reported on the fraudulent loans that everyone knew were being made? When was the last time you saw a story about racial and sexual bias in employment and jobs?
Our "corporate culture" has given us a society of mercenaries. Yes, we need a free press. I have not seen a free press since the NYT sold out to reactionary politics.
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Posted by: sslyon on Jul 22, 2008 6:45 AM
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Despite unprecedented participation in this election cycle, most of it is based on uninformed propaganda of the sort Hedges describes as propaganda wars. That, fellow citizens is NOT what our Founders intended when they built our Constitution. They endured the painful process of providing us the best opportunities for learning, critical thinking and informed national debate. It is painfully evident that we have let them down, trashed our planet and the future of coming generations.
Try a thought experiment: Imagine that by some miracle the majority of Americans woke up tomorrow with all the insight and gained wisdom required to reveal and resolve our true, Root Cause problems. Now, recall that in our Constitution and Declaration, We The People are equipped with the tools needed to correct every one of those problems, expeditiously. Given the tools and insight to use them wisely, not one single root cause problem could stand unresolved, no institutionalized crime immune to prosecution, no malfeasance or incompetence unaccountable, and we would be truly free to continue our "pursuit of happiness" into a long and prosperous future.
In concept, it is really that simple. In practice I'm confident that the rewards of each victory would provide electrifying motivation for continuing the ongoing task of maintaining a vital American democracy to the benefit of our citizens and the world at large. It is all about US, people.
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Posted by: minder49 on Jul 22, 2008 6:49 AM
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You posited that people that go to the web for their news are reading sites that reflect their views. Is that not what people who read physical papers do also? Does the web not provide access to many more points of view than any regions printed papers could hope to?
The newspaper industry is dying because of technology. It is dying because the corporations that run all the major papers are clinging to ridiculous profit margins and slashing their papers to keep those margins. They are not investing in the technology that would increase their circulation, readership and scope. They are stuck in the rut they have always been in. The difference now is that the road of life has meandered in a direction they are not willing or able to adjust to. My paper has in the last few months "reduced" staff by 153 people. Some from the Newsroom, Advertising, Operations, Circulation, and IT. We are running leaner and have more work to do than we did with more staff. Why? Because cost are high, revenue is low, and the corporation is feeling the bite in the wallet.
So, yes, the decline and death of the newpaper industry is caused by the rise of the corporate state. The corporate state of the newspaper industry itself. Economic downturns come and go, but the industry is more concerned with profit than reporting. When that happens, the newspaper is dead already, they just have not realized it yet.
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Posted by: PaulC on Jul 22, 2008 6:56 AM
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What is investigative journalism? It is feet on the ground, meeting with relevant parties, or hours spent on the phone setting up interviews, gleaning the facts. How do you replace that on the internet? Some of it, yes, but much is lost.
If we could create a web of "investigative citizen journalists" throughout the country with the credentials to get a foot in the door and the reputation for integrity to elicit anonymous testimonials, and tie that to a respected website such as Alternet, then maybe we would have something.
Such citizen journalists could be tough-nosed retired prosecutors and judges, or other professionals with standing in the community, but basically people who care enough about the plight of this country to act on their own.
The key would be to create a site where these investigators could be reached anywhere in the country, a site with national recognition and stature.
One way to get started would be to coordinate this through established investigative journalists such as Seymour Hersh - someone who could vouch for these people and even spin off cases to them in their particular region of the country, or simply request their assistance in eliciting a response from a party in their area.
Why do we have to rely on the media? Why can't we as Americans rise to the occasion, or is that something that only prior generations of heroes could manage?
peace,
Paul
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Posted by: ABetterFuture on Jul 22, 2008 7:16 AM
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Inevariably, it's the local/state stuff I read (along with the political cartoons submitted by locals), and my newspaper does an exceptional job covering its intended niche. The national news section is just a regurgitation of AP and Reuters, anyway, and that sort of canned propaganda is widely available from CNN, NYT, WAPO, WSJ (which was an excellent source for business news before they started testing the newsy waters), Fox, and agenda-drive_(n)(l) outlets like Rush Limplaugh, Airhead America, and the rest of the "look-at-me" entertainment/affirmation media circus.
As far as world news, I've been turning more and more to the beeb.
So, I enjoy the paper for what it does best: tell me what's going on around me, and letting me know when I can change things I have the power to affect, in a format and in detail that will never fit into the 5:00 news.
Having said that, I would also point out with regard to the loss of journalism jobs that you've got to feed yourself and your kids when you eventually grow up. That's something for young people interested in journalism to consider.
Oh, a final thought from Samuel Clemens, speaking on the topic of journalistic integrity today (k, not exactly):
"That awful power, the public opinion of a nation, is created in America by a horde of ingornant, self-complacent simpletons who, having failed at ditching and shoemaking, fetched up in journalism on their way to the poorhouse."
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Posted by: Snowpuppy on Jul 22, 2008 7:24 AM
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News services, like health care, should have nothing to do with corporate ownership or huge profits - they should exclusively serve the Public Interest, period. That's the Democratic vs Corporate battle we face.
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Posted by: reelectnoone on Jul 22, 2008 8:00 AM
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1) High cost to advertise there
2) High production costs.
Paper, Ink, Labor, Delivery ( fuel ) etc.
not counting the reporting.
3) Poor news reporting in many. Bias.
Some Alternatives:
1) Electronic Delivery to portable readers.
2) Lower ad costs to attract more advertisers.
3) Better, unbiased and factual reporting.
4) Do more to educate public on issues rather than assuming everyone understands them.
5) "Readers Digest" versions at higher subscription rates but without the ads.
#5 coupled with electronic subscriptions with or without ads based on price. People could pay more and skip ads both electronic and paper versions. Paper versions cost would be offset by using less paper to print and less bulk to deliver and wind up in trash. Eventually the cost of printing will be the end of most papers which need to move ahead in electronic delivery to portable readers via radio broadcast. They could contract with local TV stations to buy some of the new digital signal to stream news to subscribers.
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Posted by: kellysgarden on Jul 22, 2008 8:20 AM
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The 5 corporations mentioned in the article are not giving the public what they are yearning for, because those 5 are promoting their own agenda.
Reason #2)
The public is rejecting the agenda and ideologies promoted by the MSM.
Reason #2 is what is giving me hope for a better future. Perhaps a grassroots solution will evolve, if it is not crushed first by corporations. It is time we rise up and develop the next "news" alternative, and let the MSM wither and die.
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Posted by: coldham on Jul 22, 2008 9:02 AM
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To begin with, most of the media are whores to our government. And, since the government is full of liars, the stuff they print is full of lies.
Secondly, the media then creates a database and feeds your information to the government.
Thirdly, their new power comes from you adding your web or email to their list of suckers.
We have given newspapers our attention and if we continue to give them our attention, it will be to our disgrace.
Best not to let them know you are out there.
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Posted by: DeaconJ on Jul 22, 2008 9:48 AM
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Junes recent Bilderberg meeting got ZERO coverage in any print media. Ironically Donald E. Chairman of the Washington post was in attendance. Yet no mention in his paper. Goodbye, print journalism. Hello great blogs like Whatreallyhappened.com
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Posted by: memememe on Jul 22, 2008 10:52 AM
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If you hold public office and you abuse it, you go to jail. It's a privilege and a responsibility, not a license to print money. A system that enforces transparency is perfectly possible and the costs are negligible compared to the cost of letting the scumbags run riot.
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Canada Will Become Test Case
By Kevin Parkinson
21/07/08 "Global Research" -- - In the last 15 years or so, as a society we have had access to more information than ever before in modern history because of the Internet. There are approximately 1 billion Internet users in the world B and any one of these users can theoretically communicate in real time with any other on the planet. The Internet has been the greatest technological achievement of the 20th century by far, and has been recognized as such by the global community.
The free transfer of information, uncensored, unlimited and untainted, still seems to be a dream when you think about it. Whatever field that is mentioned- education, commerce, government, news, entertainment, politics and countless other areas- have been radically affected by the introduction of the Internet. And mostly, it's good news, except when poor judgements are made and people are taken advantage of. Scrutiny and oversight are needed, especially where children are involved.
However, when there are potential profits open to a corporation, the needs of society don't count. Take the recent case in Canada with the behemoths, Telus and Rogers rolling out a charge for text messaging without any warning to the public. It was an arrogant and risky move for the telecommunications giants because it backfired. People actually used Internet technology to deliver a loud and clear message to these companies and that was to scrap the extra charge. The people used the power of the Internet against the big boys and the little guys won.
However, the issue of text messaging is just a tiny blip on the radar screens of Telus and another company, Bell Canada, the two largest Internet Service Providers (ISP'S) in Canada. Our country is being used as a test case to drastically change the delivery of Internet service forever. The change will be so radical that it has the potential to send us back to the horse and buggy days of information sharing and access.
In the upcoming weeks watch for a report in Time Magazine that will attempt to smooth over the rough edges of a diabolical plot by Bell Canada and Telus, to begin charging per site fees on most Internet sites. The plan is to convert the Internet into a cable-like system, where customers sign up for specific web sites, and then pay to visit sites beyond a cutoff point.
Author's website: http://realitycheck.typepad.com/
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Posted by: captbobalou on Jul 22, 2008 5:59 PM
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I really tried to support it, but just couldn't. Local coverage ignores the biggest local issues in favor of wet dogs, fluffy kittys and cute kids. International coverage is limited to 2 stories per day.
News that presents counterpoints to whichever party is in power doesn't make the cut. Unfortunately, we don't get same-day delivery of any major daily here, and the other major state papers (Montana) all have their own iteration of "all the local brain-dead news you can consume" going on. TV journalism is worse. The ONLY source of up to date, factual and sometimes contextual information available in this part of the country is online (or a week later).
The reasons for this are myriad, but not so complex. Our local paper lives and dies based on advertising sales from local businesses. The national chains are conservative in their views, and most of our local businesses are very conservative in their views, ("Babbit" is the rule rather than the exception here). The 'net, visitors, and our local library are our sole windows to the world beyond the fields and mountains that surround our small town. Our local newspaper is most useful as tinder.
I'm guessing Mr. Hedges does not live anywhere in the "big middle" of the country. If he did, he would certainly not have authored this piece.
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Posted by: Dboy on Jul 22, 2008 6:44 PM
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I appreciate what Hedges is attempting to say, but I don't think that this issue is as simple as he's making it. Humans are information-processing machines, and with new technologies there are new ways and forms of communication that simply did not exist before. Some things are best expressed on paper, others are not. This concept of "post-literate" seems to carry with it negative connotations. The truth is that paper is not necessarily always the best method for data transmission and storage. I love books, but they are heavy, vulnerable to fire, and require either an index, or a manual linear search to retrieve data.
Hedges calls this "post-literate"...well that's just not correct in my opinion. Students may be more interested in writing Java code (a language) than reading Jane Austen. That's not 'post literate', that's moving towards new forms of literacy. In addition to reading/writing books, we now have new expressions of ideas through human/computer interaction, artificial intelligence, and robotics. And consider our new understanding of how DNA stores data for future generations and then expresses that data by coding for various proteins. As we turn that system into a read/write device rather than just read-only, we gain yet another form of literacy. So traditional literacy is not going away (that would be the definition of post-literate), traditional literacy just has new competition that did not exist before. I see this as a separate phenomenon from the political and business drivers, which are important as well. The output of 'big media' certainly is not what it used to be, but the drivers of that could be flaws in the medium itself, not just flaws in the ownership structure.
This movement away from hard-copy text to electronic forms could be a sign of the Singularity (I'm sure a few people reading this saw that statement coming). We have reached a stage that hard-copy books just CANNOT cope with the volume of data that humans are creating. New discoveries can have the effect of speeding up the rate of discoveries, creating an exponential trend. I believe we are at a point in time where that 'speeding up' begins to be felt, and some of the results of that exponential rate of change are that old technologies are no longer able to keep up with that change. Traditional information storage is vulnerable technology in a world of exponential change. I just bought a 1 Terabyte hard-drive a few weeks ago..$150!. That is a historical moment in computing! (all you OLD-geeks know what I'm talking about). And it's likely that the NEXT doubling of storage space will occur much faster than from 500GB to 1TB did.
These are fascinating times to be living in. EVERYTHING seems to be going on right now, good and bad. Robotics, Biotech, and Nanotech..those are the things to watch. If you are about to go to college, you should HIGHLY consider one of those three areas. And of course there are medical applications in each of those 3 technologies, and that is something to consider as well.
My point is that 'post-literate' is not really a good or complete expression of what is really going on here.
dboy
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Doug Underwood.-1993
ISBN 0-231-08048-4
Dewey # 070.4/U56
Yesterday's News: Why Canada's Newspapers are Failing Us
John Miller -1998
ISBN 1-55266-000-1
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When Information Counts: Grading the Media
Ed: Bernard Rubin -1985
ISBN 0-669-10162-1
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The News Twisters
Edith Efron -1971
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The Corporate Culture Survival Guide
Edgar H Schein -1999
ISBN 0-7879-4699-0
Dewey # 658.406 S319
The Myth of the Good Corporate Citizen:
Democracy Under the Rule of Big Business
Murray Dobbin -1998
ISBN 0-7737-3087-7
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Politics and the English Language
George Orwell
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A Project Gutenberg of Australia eBook
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Manufacturing Consent: The Political Economy of the Mass Media
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Posted by: PopeRatzo on Jul 23, 2008 3:29 PM
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You are as unlikely to see a serious discussion of the failures of the Bush Administration or the disease of partisanship that has infected the Justice Department, in the pages of those papers as you are on Fox News or the Situation Room.
Just as with television, the newspapers are now simply part of the great mechanism of corporate media, whose main job is to protect those in power and to advance the agenda of the corporate elite.
I honestly can hardly believe I'm writing the above paragraphs. I've had to learn these things in a very hard way over the past decade. In '95, I would have thought such talk was simply nutty, but now I realize that it's absolutely an understatement to say that all corporate-owned media in the United States is very specifically the enemy of our freedom and out to destroy any advances made by the middle-class, a middle-class which will be replaced by a consumerist serfdom where we all owe our souls to the company stores via Visa, Mastercard, AMEX.
So excuse me if I don't shed a tear for the troubles in the newspaper industry. Whatever importance they once had to the operation of our democracy is gone forever. It's up to their replacement, whatever it might be, to get it done now. They are no longer to be trusted. Oh, and if there aren't Net Neutrality laws passed and soon, we won't be able to trust the 'net, either.
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Posted by: penobscotdziekuje@yahoo.com on Jul 24, 2008 3:13 PM
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The results have been catastrophic. I have seen us lose talented and experienced staff who have job knowledge and for those who weren't laid off, we had to double up on duties and try to get the news out to a ever-increasing and skeptical public. Since this is happening, we can't do our job informing the public. That is what the Fourth Estate is supposed to do.
Newspapers now are turning into a USA Today-type format where the news is presented in brief. Pages are trimmed, making it harder for advertising employees to sell ad space.
Graphics and photos are larger, which takes away copy space. This is what readers seem to want, a series of montages without words.
Pretty soon you'll see a modern newsroom with fewer reporters, copy editors, editorial assistants and photographers, more internet-based journalists (being trained in colleges), more art and design people, working together to produce a "product", NOT a newspaper.
Newspapers should have seen these changes coming years ago, but habits die hard. What was the response? Cut jobs and launch head-on into net journalism. Publishers and editors still haven't figured the Internet out yet, or how they could use it to make a better newspaper, but so far, the results are incomplete.
Editors at my paper are more interested in how many "hits" (or visits) a story gets on its online version; never mind that circulation figures have dropped significantly.
Many people still do not have a computer at home or bother trudging to a library and use a computer to "read" the "news." They're probably aging baby boomers or senior citizens stuck in another era when newspapers provided them with the information needed to suit them.
Readers get upset when we cut a cartoon strip, tinker with the format, discontinue a column (or columnist), or something they like, but the biggest blunder newspapers have made is bad management decisions.
Corporations have taken over most newspapers and instilled an ideology which shifts away from traditional news gathering principles.
Reporters don't give a damn about the number of hits or the format. What concerns most reporters is the shrinking newspaper and job security. A smaller paper means more competition for space.
Lastly, the public should try to save their hometown paper of choice. Stage rallies in your city or town and let the owners or publishers know you care. That's the message from the front lines.
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Posted by: mstoll on Jul 26, 2008 11:32 PM
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I am working in San Francisco with a group of idealistic journalists, nonprofit professionals and civics enthusiasts to start a new web/print daily newspaper founded on the noncommercial model, similar to public broadcasters.
The Public Press would need seed grants to start up, but would sustain itself in the long term independently through reader subscriptions and pledge-style support. The paper would aggressively scrutinize not just government, but also the private sector. It would be a pioneer in consumer advocacy. We characterize the tone to be a "pro-public" or democratic (small d) bias, as opposed to advocating any political, economic or social agenda.
It be a nonprofit organization and operate much in the same way as NPR news stations around the country cover their own communities with serious local news accounts unmatched on the radio dial. Likewise the Public Press would commit to operating outside the commercial sphere, eschewing advertising altogether. This would create a newspaper with the same "news hole" but less than half the paper. Suffice it to say, such an arrangement would also allow for more efficient distribution, a radical redesign and rethink of the paper's content, from arts reviews to local politics to the "business" section.
We've started organizing on the ground in San Francisco and we're developing a three-year plan that would be a Web-only, largely volunteer operation the first year; add a weekly print paper the second year; and become a small neighborhood daily the third. All this depends on grants, donations, subscription revenue and the passion of professional journalists to escape the restrictions that have derailed so many of our careers and idealistic aspirations.
Please visit our Web site, www.public-press.org, and let us know what you think. Comment on our blog, and if you agree with our aims, it would be great if some of you could pitch in a few (IRS tax deductible, c/o Independent Arts & Media, our 501c3 nonprofit sponsor) dollars to our startup fund by clicking the "Donate" button. And if you're in San Francisco, drop in on the next organizing meeting.
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Michael Stoll
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Posted by: mmckinl on Jul 22, 2008 12:31 AM
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I'm about to cancel my major daily, one of those mentioned, because I would rather donate my money to local PBS, Common Cause, Alternet, The Nation or other news outlet.
My paper has largely become just like all the rest, printing recycled corporate poppycock. I will not support such crap.
The question becomes do we support papers that spew out masses of garbage to retain a few good reporters. My answer is No, let them die, No News may be better than propaganda and lies.
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Posted by: Democratic Socialist on Jul 22, 2008 12:58 AM
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I'm GLAD the big newspapers are dying -- the sooner they all go bankrupt the better. Over 50% of any given newspaper has been for the longest time nothing more than pages upon pages of advertising that reinforces the disgusting consumerist culture that America has become, a mass-consumerism that is leading to the decline of Western culture on many levels.
Hedges states that "The decline of newspapers is about the rise of the corporate state..." -- but how is that the case when ALL of the major newspapers are, in fact, owned by corporations?
I do agree that newspapers should be a "public trust" as he states, but that idea has apparently become antiquated since many newspapers have been owned and operated by corporations for decades now. Local newspapers will continue to exist (thankfully) because they provide a true service to citizens, but again I'm very glad that all of these national and international-oriented papers are going bankrupt.
It is a shame though that news-gathering will indeed take a hit with the decline of newspapers as Hedges says because bloggers and many websites don't have the funds to send reporters out all over the world gathering news. But I am personally an anti-globalist and could care less what is happening in the streets of Bangladesh or Israel or wherever...I care about my LOCAL community, town, county, region, and state more than some far-away land.
In my opinion the decline of the corporate newspaper network is beginning to herald a new age of non-corporate/business, non-PC, and non-governmental interference in the public discussion.
The fact that Hedges used to work for the NYT and probably still has family/friends/associates who still work for other mass/mainstream coporate media publications shows this to be an article which seeks to justify the continued corporate domination of the news-media and is probably just a reflection of Hedges and other media elites who are very worried about getting a paycheck in the coming years once their corporate/consumerist rags go out of business.
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Posted by: Richard House on Jul 22, 2008 1:09 AM
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“… the citizens in these degraded societies, he warned, always end up ruled by a despot, a Nero or a George W. Bush.” Most of the world today is governed by Caesars; the effect of absolute, or great power, conferred on reckless individuals.
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Posted by: Bobsays on Jul 22, 2008 2:56 AM
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I feel no pity. It is actually coming eight years too late: it should have happened many, many years ago. You have a choice: connect with the readers, the customers, or die. Make them happy and keep them informed, or die.
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Posted by: dmaddox on Jul 22, 2008 3:21 AM
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What Hedges and his ilk should be learning from this is not that they'd better start reporting the news straight, and stop filtering and coloring and interpreting the news for the "uneducated masses". The masses really aren't all that uneducated and now have the ability to cross check the newspapers.
We've lived in five cities over the last ten years, and have declined to subscribe to any of their newspapers. After reading them for one week, and then investigating the facts for myself, I determined that they were at best giving me only half of any given story - the half that supported their "progressive" agenda. I'm not paying even fifty cents a day to bring that tripe, surrounded by masses of advertising, into my home or my mind.
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» Nonsense, 66 percent of papers are monopoly markets, and virtually all are owned by corporations
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Posted by: drricklippin on Jul 22, 2008 4:08 AM
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Until the media,law and medicine can return to their professional roots of objective reporting,justice,and healing respectively they are trapped in the business model which is destroying them.
Yes the excesses of the corporate state are responsible but the leaders in these "former professions turned businesses" should have resisted this trend more than they did.How?
And "vox populi" should demand a return to professionalism. (The tide may be turning before it's too late?)
Thanks Chris Hedges.
Dr. Rick Lippin
Southampton,Pa
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Posted by: ProgressiveManiac on Jul 22, 2008 4:51 AM
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I think it is more accurate to say:
When the traditional news organizations became corporate monsters our democracy suffered a body blow. Not that many have noticed, but democracy is struggling to survive the blow.
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Posted by: Tom Degan on Jul 22, 2008 5:11 AM
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The death of the newspaper will mean the death of an informed electorate...Oh, wait a minute, I forgot....They died years ago!
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Six Months To Go
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Posted by: otto on Jul 22, 2008 6:00 AM
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Posted by: Bobsays on Jul 22, 2008 6:02 AM
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Here is a good case study: Thomson Reuters. The Canadian Thomson newspaper group just ditched all their rag bag local newspapers, and instead went and bought Reuters, the global news service. They saw that rural Canada was no-wheres-ville and decided to get where the action is: the world's megacities. Local newspapers are not the reservoir of democracy: in fact, they are a reservoir of local wind bags, two-bit politicians and Boss Hog-style police departments. Their death is proving very enjoyable to watch.
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Posted by: war_on_tara on Jul 22, 2008 6:31 AM
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Chris Hedges and his ilk are just looking for a paycheck. (As opposed to the kind of AlterNet readers who eat cardboard, shit rainbows and don't need money for working.)
International news is irrelevant; only local news is important. Or is it, local newspapers are shitrags & only national and international news is important.
Newspapers lost their individuality decades ago. Or is it, newspapers are all pushing the same agenda.
The proverb about the 6 blind men and the elephant comes to mind.
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Posted by: Sojourner on Jul 22, 2008 6:37 AM
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The press gave us the invasion of Iraq. What evidence is there that the press reported on the fraudulent loans that everyone knew were being made? When was the last time you saw a story about racial and sexual bias in employment and jobs?
Our "corporate culture" has given us a society of mercenaries. Yes, we need a free press. I have not seen a free press since the NYT sold out to reactionary politics.
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Posted by: Paul Bass on Jul 22, 2008 6:41 AM
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Posted by: sslyon on Jul 22, 2008 6:45 AM
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Despite unprecedented participation in this election cycle, most of it is based on uninformed propaganda of the sort Hedges describes as propaganda wars. That, fellow citizens is NOT what our Founders intended when they built our Constitution. They endured the painful process of providing us the best opportunities for learning, critical thinking and informed national debate. It is painfully evident that we have let them down, trashed our planet and the future of coming generations.
Try a thought experiment: Imagine that by some miracle the majority of Americans woke up tomorrow with all the insight and gained wisdom required to reveal and resolve our true, Root Cause problems. Now, recall that in our Constitution and Declaration, We The People are equipped with the tools needed to correct every one of those problems, expeditiously. Given the tools and insight to use them wisely, not one single root cause problem could stand unresolved, no institutionalized crime immune to prosecution, no malfeasance or incompetence unaccountable, and we would be truly free to continue our "pursuit of happiness" into a long and prosperous future.
In concept, it is really that simple. In practice I'm confident that the rewards of each victory would provide electrifying motivation for continuing the ongoing task of maintaining a vital American democracy to the benefit of our citizens and the world at large. It is all about US, people.
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Posted by: minder49 on Jul 22, 2008 6:49 AM
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You posited that people that go to the web for their news are reading sites that reflect their views. Is that not what people who read physical papers do also? Does the web not provide access to many more points of view than any regions printed papers could hope to?
The newspaper industry is dying because of technology. It is dying because the corporations that run all the major papers are clinging to ridiculous profit margins and slashing their papers to keep those margins. They are not investing in the technology that would increase their circulation, readership and scope. They are stuck in the rut they have always been in. The difference now is that the road of life has meandered in a direction they are not willing or able to adjust to. My paper has in the last few months "reduced" staff by 153 people. Some from the Newsroom, Advertising, Operations, Circulation, and IT. We are running leaner and have more work to do than we did with more staff. Why? Because cost are high, revenue is low, and the corporation is feeling the bite in the wallet.
So, yes, the decline and death of the newpaper industry is caused by the rise of the corporate state. The corporate state of the newspaper industry itself. Economic downturns come and go, but the industry is more concerned with profit than reporting. When that happens, the newspaper is dead already, they just have not realized it yet.
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Posted by: PaulC on Jul 22, 2008 6:56 AM
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What is investigative journalism? It is feet on the ground, meeting with relevant parties, or hours spent on the phone setting up interviews, gleaning the facts. How do you replace that on the internet? Some of it, yes, but much is lost.
If we could create a web of "investigative citizen journalists" throughout the country with the credentials to get a foot in the door and the reputation for integrity to elicit anonymous testimonials, and tie that to a respected website such as Alternet, then maybe we would have something.
Such citizen journalists could be tough-nosed retired prosecutors and judges, or other professionals with standing in the community, but basically people who care enough about the plight of this country to act on their own.
The key would be to create a site where these investigators could be reached anywhere in the country, a site with national recognition and stature.
One way to get started would be to coordinate this through established investigative journalists such as Seymour Hersh - someone who could vouch for these people and even spin off cases to them in their particular region of the country, or simply request their assistance in eliciting a response from a party in their area.
Why do we have to rely on the media? Why can't we as Americans rise to the occasion, or is that something that only prior generations of heroes could manage?
peace,
Paul
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Posted by: ABetterFuture on Jul 22, 2008 7:16 AM
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Inevariably, it's the local/state stuff I read (along with the political cartoons submitted by locals), and my newspaper does an exceptional job covering its intended niche. The national news section is just a regurgitation of AP and Reuters, anyway, and that sort of canned propaganda is widely available from CNN, NYT, WAPO, WSJ (which was an excellent source for business news before they started testing the newsy waters), Fox, and agenda-drive_(n)(l) outlets like Rush Limplaugh, Airhead America, and the rest of the "look-at-me" entertainment/affirmation media circus.
As far as world news, I've been turning more and more to the beeb.
So, I enjoy the paper for what it does best: tell me what's going on around me, and letting me know when I can change things I have the power to affect, in a format and in detail that will never fit into the 5:00 news.
Having said that, I would also point out with regard to the loss of journalism jobs that you've got to feed yourself and your kids when you eventually grow up. That's something for young people interested in journalism to consider.
Oh, a final thought from Samuel Clemens, speaking on the topic of journalistic integrity today (k, not exactly):
"That awful power, the public opinion of a nation, is created in America by a horde of ingornant, self-complacent simpletons who, having failed at ditching and shoemaking, fetched up in journalism on their way to the poorhouse."
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Posted by: Snowpuppy on Jul 22, 2008 7:24 AM
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News services, like health care, should have nothing to do with corporate ownership or huge profits - they should exclusively serve the Public Interest, period. That's the Democratic vs Corporate battle we face.
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Posted by: reelectnoone on Jul 22, 2008 8:00 AM
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1) High cost to advertise there
2) High production costs.
Paper, Ink, Labor, Delivery ( fuel ) etc.
not counting the reporting.
3) Poor news reporting in many. Bias.
Some Alternatives:
1) Electronic Delivery to portable readers.
2) Lower ad costs to attract more advertisers.
3) Better, unbiased and factual reporting.
4) Do more to educate public on issues rather than assuming everyone understands them.
5) "Readers Digest" versions at higher subscription rates but without the ads.
#5 coupled with electronic subscriptions with or without ads based on price. People could pay more and skip ads both electronic and paper versions. Paper versions cost would be offset by using less paper to print and less bulk to deliver and wind up in trash. Eventually the cost of printing will be the end of most papers which need to move ahead in electronic delivery to portable readers via radio broadcast. They could contract with local TV stations to buy some of the new digital signal to stream news to subscribers.
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Posted by: kellysgarden on Jul 22, 2008 8:20 AM
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The 5 corporations mentioned in the article are not giving the public what they are yearning for, because those 5 are promoting their own agenda.
Reason #2)
The public is rejecting the agenda and ideologies promoted by the MSM.
Reason #2 is what is giving me hope for a better future. Perhaps a grassroots solution will evolve, if it is not crushed first by corporations. It is time we rise up and develop the next "news" alternative, and let the MSM wither and die.
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Posted by: coldham on Jul 22, 2008 9:02 AM
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To begin with, most of the media are whores to our government. And, since the government is full of liars, the stuff they print is full of lies.
Secondly, the media then creates a database and feeds your information to the government.
Thirdly, their new power comes from you adding your web or email to their list of suckers.
We have given newspapers our attention and if we continue to give them our attention, it will be to our disgrace.
Best not to let them know you are out there.
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Posted by: DeaconJ on Jul 22, 2008 9:48 AM
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Junes recent Bilderberg meeting got ZERO coverage in any print media. Ironically Donald E. Chairman of the Washington post was in attendance. Yet no mention in his paper. Goodbye, print journalism. Hello great blogs like Whatreallyhappened.com
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Posted by: memememe on Jul 22, 2008 10:52 AM
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If you hold public office and you abuse it, you go to jail. It's a privilege and a responsibility, not a license to print money. A system that enforces transparency is perfectly possible and the costs are negligible compared to the cost of letting the scumbags run riot.
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Canada Will Become Test Case
By Kevin Parkinson
21/07/08 "Global Research" -- - In the last 15 years or so, as a society we have had access to more information than ever before in modern history because of the Internet. There are approximately 1 billion Internet users in the world B and any one of these users can theoretically communicate in real time with any other on the planet. The Internet has been the greatest technological achievement of the 20th century by far, and has been recognized as such by the global community.
The free transfer of information, uncensored, unlimited and untainted, still seems to be a dream when you think about it. Whatever field that is mentioned- education, commerce, government, news, entertainment, politics and countless other areas- have been radically affected by the introduction of the Internet. And mostly, it's good news, except when poor judgements are made and people are taken advantage of. Scrutiny and oversight are needed, especially where children are involved.
However, when there are potential profits open to a corporation, the needs of society don't count. Take the recent case in Canada with the behemoths, Telus and Rogers rolling out a charge for text messaging without any warning to the public. It was an arrogant and risky move for the telecommunications giants because it backfired. People actually used Internet technology to deliver a loud and clear message to these companies and that was to scrap the extra charge. The people used the power of the Internet against the big boys and the little guys won.
However, the issue of text messaging is just a tiny blip on the radar screens of Telus and another company, Bell Canada, the two largest Internet Service Providers (ISP'S) in Canada. Our country is being used as a test case to drastically change the delivery of Internet service forever. The change will be so radical that it has the potential to send us back to the horse and buggy days of information sharing and access.
In the upcoming weeks watch for a report in Time Magazine that will attempt to smooth over the rough edges of a diabolical plot by Bell Canada and Telus, to begin charging per site fees on most Internet sites. The plan is to convert the Internet into a cable-like system, where customers sign up for specific web sites, and then pay to visit sites beyond a cutoff point.
Author's website: http://realitycheck.typepad.com/
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» If you don't like Communist China, then stop supporting them and cancel "free" trade.
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» Canada: A Naomi Kleinesque, politically correct stagNATION
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Posted by: captbobalou on Jul 22, 2008 5:59 PM
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I really tried to support it, but just couldn't. Local coverage ignores the biggest local issues in favor of wet dogs, fluffy kittys and cute kids. International coverage is limited to 2 stories per day.
News that presents counterpoints to whichever party is in power doesn't make the cut. Unfortunately, we don't get same-day delivery of any major daily here, and the other major state papers (Montana) all have their own iteration of "all the local brain-dead news you can consume" going on. TV journalism is worse. The ONLY source of up to date, factual and sometimes contextual information available in this part of the country is online (or a week later).
The reasons for this are myriad, but not so complex. Our local paper lives and dies based on advertising sales from local businesses. The national chains are conservative in their views, and most of our local businesses are very conservative in their views, ("Babbit" is the rule rather than the exception here). The 'net, visitors, and our local library are our sole windows to the world beyond the fields and mountains that surround our small town. Our local newspaper is most useful as tinder.
I'm guessing Mr. Hedges does not live anywhere in the "big middle" of the country. If he did, he would certainly not have authored this piece.
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Posted by: Dboy on Jul 22, 2008 6:44 PM
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I appreciate what Hedges is attempting to say, but I don't think that this issue is as simple as he's making it. Humans are information-processing machines, and with new technologies there are new ways and forms of communication that simply did not exist before. Some things are best expressed on paper, others are not. This concept of "post-literate" seems to carry with it negative connotations. The truth is that paper is not necessarily always the best method for data transmission and storage. I love books, but they are heavy, vulnerable to fire, and require either an index, or a manual linear search to retrieve data.
Hedges calls this "post-literate"...well that's just not correct in my opinion. Students may be more interested in writing Java code (a language) than reading Jane Austen. That's not 'post literate', that's moving towards new forms of literacy. In addition to reading/writing books, we now have new expressions of ideas through human/computer interaction, artificial intelligence, and robotics. And consider our new understanding of how DNA stores data for future generations and then expresses that data by coding for various proteins. As we turn that system into a read/write device rather than just read-only, we gain yet another form of literacy. So traditional literacy is not going away (that would be the definition of post-literate), traditional literacy just has new competition that did not exist before. I see this as a separate phenomenon from the political and business drivers, which are important as well. The output of 'big media' certainly is not what it used to be, but the drivers of that could be flaws in the medium itself, not just flaws in the ownership structure.
This movement away from hard-copy text to electronic forms could be a sign of the Singularity (I'm sure a few people reading this saw that statement coming). We have reached a stage that hard-copy books just CANNOT cope with the volume of data that humans are creating. New discoveries can have the effect of speeding up the rate of discoveries, creating an exponential trend. I believe we are at a point in time where that 'speeding up' begins to be felt, and some of the results of that exponential rate of change are that old technologies are no longer able to keep up with that change. Traditional information storage is vulnerable technology in a world of exponential change. I just bought a 1 Terabyte hard-drive a few weeks ago..$150!. That is a historical moment in computing! (all you OLD-geeks know what I'm talking about). And it's likely that the NEXT doubling of storage space will occur much faster than from 500GB to 1TB did.
These are fascinating times to be living in. EVERYTHING seems to be going on right now, good and bad. Robotics, Biotech, and Nanotech..those are the things to watch. If you are about to go to college, you should HIGHLY consider one of those three areas. And of course there are medical applications in each of those 3 technologies, and that is something to consider as well.
My point is that 'post-literate' is not really a good or complete expression of what is really going on here.
dboy
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Doug Underwood.-1993
ISBN 0-231-08048-4
Dewey # 070.4/U56
Yesterday's News: Why Canada's Newspapers are Failing Us
John Miller -1998
ISBN 1-55266-000-1
Dewey # 071.1 M648
When Information Counts: Grading the Media
Ed: Bernard Rubin -1985
ISBN 0-669-10162-1
Dewey # 001.51 W567
The News Twisters
Edith Efron -1971
ISBN N/A
Dewey #070.43 E27
The Corporate Culture Survival Guide
Edgar H Schein -1999
ISBN 0-7879-4699-0
Dewey # 658.406 S319
The Myth of the Good Corporate Citizen:
Democracy Under the Rule of Big Business
Murray Dobbin -1998
ISBN 0-7737-3087-7
Dewey # 306.2 D999
Politics and the English Language
George Orwell
ISBN N/A
A Project Gutenberg of Australia eBook
http://gutenberg.net.au/ebooks02/0200151.txt
Manufacturing Consent: The Political Economy of the Mass Media
Edward S. Herman &
Noam Chomsky -1988
ISBN 0-679-72034-0
Dewey # 302.234 H551
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Posted by: PopeRatzo on Jul 23, 2008 3:29 PM
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You are as unlikely to see a serious discussion of the failures of the Bush Administration or the disease of partisanship that has infected the Justice Department, in the pages of those papers as you are on Fox News or the Situation Room.
Just as with television, the newspapers are now simply part of the great mechanism of corporate media, whose main job is to protect those in power and to advance the agenda of the corporate elite.
I honestly can hardly believe I'm writing the above paragraphs. I've had to learn these things in a very hard way over the past decade. In '95, I would have thought such talk was simply nutty, but now I realize that it's absolutely an understatement to say that all corporate-owned media in the United States is very specifically the enemy of our freedom and out to destroy any advances made by the middle-class, a middle-class which will be replaced by a consumerist serfdom where we all owe our souls to the company stores via Visa, Mastercard, AMEX.
So excuse me if I don't shed a tear for the troubles in the newspaper industry. Whatever importance they once had to the operation of our democracy is gone forever. It's up to their replacement, whatever it might be, to get it done now. They are no longer to be trusted. Oh, and if there aren't Net Neutrality laws passed and soon, we won't be able to trust the 'net, either.
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Posted by: penobscotdziekuje@yahoo.com on Jul 24, 2008 3:13 PM
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The results have been catastrophic. I have seen us lose talented and experienced staff who have job knowledge and for those who weren't laid off, we had to double up on duties and try to get the news out to a ever-increasing and skeptical public. Since this is happening, we can't do our job informing the public. That is what the Fourth Estate is supposed to do.
Newspapers now are turning into a USA Today-type format where the news is presented in brief. Pages are trimmed, making it harder for advertising employees to sell ad space.
Graphics and photos are larger, which takes away copy space. This is what readers seem to want, a series of montages without words.
Pretty soon you'll see a modern newsroom with fewer reporters, copy editors, editorial assistants and photographers, more internet-based journalists (being trained in colleges), more art and design people, working together to produce a "product", NOT a newspaper.
Newspapers should have seen these changes coming years ago, but habits die hard. What was the response? Cut jobs and launch head-on into net journalism. Publishers and editors still haven't figured the Internet out yet, or how they could use it to make a better newspaper, but so far, the results are incomplete.
Editors at my paper are more interested in how many "hits" (or visits) a story gets on its online version; never mind that circulation figures have dropped significantly.
Many people still do not have a computer at home or bother trudging to a library and use a computer to "read" the "news." They're probably aging baby boomers or senior citizens stuck in another era when newspapers provided them with the information needed to suit them.
Readers get upset when we cut a cartoon strip, tinker with the format, discontinue a column (or columnist), or something they like, but the biggest blunder newspapers have made is bad management decisions.
Corporations have taken over most newspapers and instilled an ideology which shifts away from traditional news gathering principles.
Reporters don't give a damn about the number of hits or the format. What concerns most reporters is the shrinking newspaper and job security. A smaller paper means more competition for space.
Lastly, the public should try to save their hometown paper of choice. Stage rallies in your city or town and let the owners or publishers know you care. That's the message from the front lines.
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Posted by: mstoll on Jul 26, 2008 11:32 PM
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I am working in San Francisco with a group of idealistic journalists, nonprofit professionals and civics enthusiasts to start a new web/print daily newspaper founded on the noncommercial model, similar to public broadcasters.
The Public Press would need seed grants to start up, but would sustain itself in the long term independently through reader subscriptions and pledge-style support. The paper would aggressively scrutinize not just government, but also the private sector. It would be a pioneer in consumer advocacy. We characterize the tone to be a "pro-public" or democratic (small d) bias, as opposed to advocating any political, economic or social agenda.
It be a nonprofit organization and operate much in the same way as NPR news stations around the country cover their own communities with serious local news accounts unmatched on the radio dial. Likewise the Public Press would commit to operating outside the commercial sphere, eschewing advertising altogether. This would create a newspaper with the same "news hole" but less than half the paper. Suffice it to say, such an arrangement would also allow for more efficient distribution, a radical redesign and rethink of the paper's content, from arts reviews to local politics to the "business" section.
We've started organizing on the ground in San Francisco and we're developing a three-year plan that would be a Web-only, largely volunteer operation the first year; add a weekly print paper the second year; and become a small neighborhood daily the third. All this depends on grants, donations, subscription revenue and the passion of professional journalists to escape the restrictions that have derailed so many of our careers and idealistic aspirations.
Please visit our Web site, www.public-press.org, and let us know what you think. Comment on our blog, and if you agree with our aims, it would be great if some of you could pitch in a few (IRS tax deductible, c/o Independent Arts & Media, our 501c3 nonprofit sponsor) dollars to our startup fund by clicking the "Donate" button. And if you're in San Francisco, drop in on the next organizing meeting.
Thanks,
Michael Stoll
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