Obama's War Speech Offered Something for Everybody -- But Who's Buying It?

The armaments industry and the security industry are gaga over Obama's speech.


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to paraphrase Winston Churchill, “ I don’t think this is even the beginning of the end.”

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No sane person is buying this speech. This is just more Obama "Believe what I say, don't watch what I do" malarkey.

Obama's demeanor was such that I don't think he believed the speech himself. Worst speech he ever gave in public.

Whatever vision Obama had for himself and his legacy it surely wasn't Bush III with a Bow, but that is exactly what it is.

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Had enough? Like where we are headed in Afghanistan and beyond? Love our entrenched national poverty? Love big Pharma and the medical industry? Love debt that will impoverish untold generations? Think Social Security and Medicare are socialist ploys for the neer do wells that shackle USA, Inc. intractably? There's more, but who gives a shit to hear it........impeach Obamarama now and prosecute Bush, Cheney and all other perps for high crimes, misdemeanors and international felonies mandating the death penalty. Since Obamarama is welded to that crowd, introduce him to accessory accountability and the death penalty that awaits all felonious tyrants.

Now that yabba dabba doo has merit!

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...when he started off by calling up the ghosts of 9/11, just as George W. did every time he wanted to gain public or congressional support for something that didn't deserve support. Then he told us how sending more troops, spending more money and killing more people would change a strange, faraway place into just what we want it to be, like Johnson or Nixon did in the '60s. I believe he even told us, perhaps in different words, that there's light at the end of the tunnel. By God, George Santayana was right!

To make this even stranger, as I sit here typing my comments, there's a photo of Nurse McMurphy from "China Beach" smiling at me from an advertisement on the left side of the screen!!

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I don't see why you people are being so critical.

These invasions and occupations of our always go exactly as planned. ;)

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Take this to the bank:
We will lose the war in Afghanistan. Just as in Iraq, every serviceman or woman who has died there has died for no reason. Russia and merrie old England learned this lesson a long time ago. You would think....Never mind.

Suffice to say, on my best day I do not receive one tenth of the information that President Obama receives. I don't read any of the Presidential Daily Briefings that are placed on his desk every morning. Obviously he is in possession of a wealth of intelligence that you and I are just not privy to. Maybe we should be giving him the benefit of the doubt - and I have been doing just that, I promise you. But from my vantage point it appears to me that this president has failed to learn the lessons that have been passed onto us down the decades by the administrations of Franklin Delano Rossevelt and Lyndon Baines Johnson - lessons involving bold action in times of economic crisis (more on that another day) and the utter folly of waging wars that cannot be won.

I want to believe in this president. He is the chief executive I worked harder to elect than any other in my lifetime. I realize that it is simply far too early in this administration to write a final assessment of his term of office. That being said, my confidence in the Obama White House is ebbing rapidly. Where in the hell is all of this change I could believe in? Is the Bush Mob still in charge? What gives?

NOTE TO THE RIGHT WING:

No, I am still exceedingly grateful that John McCain and Gidget von Braun did not win the election last year. Have another sip.

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Any hopes that we'd be done with Afghanistan were strictly delusional. Seems that few were paying attention at all, or considering the broad spectrum of strategic implications.

Obama clearly stated during the election that Afghanistan was our strategic imperative as it relates to the stability of a secular/nuclear Pakistan. Iraq being the divergent and costly imperial Bush family's political vendetta/oil crony bonanza, implicit in his view. So where is the element of surprise with Obama's speech? It was always a question of the immediate scope of commitment, not of the commitment itself, so there is no inconsistency, no genuine controversy as it relates to Obama's furthering of military presence into Afghanistan.

So, who wants to argue with a strategy intended to occupy the insurgent resources of the extremely violent threat to the however imperfect, corrupted and fragmented, secular Pakistani government and the relative stability of all south Asia? Argue away.

But, like it or not, if a nuclear armed Pakistan falls to the same indiscriminately violent killers in the name of Allah as those that sent the impoverished, brainwashed automatons to Mumbai, our other myriad socio/economic and environmental problems will be moot.

Friedman, and the rest of us, would be much better off considering just exactly how we're all going to survive the total package of economic ruin that the powers that control our domestic destiny have been preparing for us.

The rest of it has long been out of our control.

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when the Democrats want to get elected, they rally the progressives and get us to turn out the vote. when the GOP wants to get elected, they rally the right-wingnuts and religious fanatics to get out the vote. But in the end, the same elites that made money and held power with the GOP now hold power and make money with the Dems. Watching Obama play history professor the other night was sobering and depressing. i guess it's true - where you sits is where you stands...

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an eloquent appeal to our better natures before we send more of our young off again to kill more people.

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America, I'm sorry to inform you i cannot honor my campaign promises. I can not flood an already strained economy with all the troops who will return to unemployment, or demand they're tuition benefits at a time when the government is broke. I can not flood the VA with thousands upon thousands of cases of a disease they refuse to recognize and treat (ptsd). Oh yea and im sorry for playing on your insecurities and making it seem like i could possibly identify with the struggles of minority america which is why you voted for me.......see This is just a really good tan:)

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Wake-up, sheeple!

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Why again did Alternet not support Paul over the Democrats and Obama...

All the welfare state stuff the writers of this site want requires Constitutional Amendments if one rightfully has a rigid (non-elastic) interpretation of the general welfare clause, Necessary and Proper clause and the Commerce clause.

If we could pass a Constitutional Amendment for such welfare legislation that would inherently mean more than 2/3 support in the Congress and therefore Paul's veto would be overridden.


Ironic that a desire to help fellow Americans led more liberal Americans to vote for a President that will wage war on foreigners.

Me first I guess...


P.S. No under almost any other circumstance I do not vote Republican but you have to judge the man and his voting record, party affiliation can be a distraction.

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The Fed is making big cash off this crisis, and is already planning the next mojor problem for "our" economy.

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ABC News reports...

http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/president-obamas- secret-100-al-qaeda-now-afghanistan/story? id=9227861

If the 'surge' succeeds in eliminating them... it will cost....how many hundreds of millions per head?

Let's remember, Bush had the orders to invade Afghanistan on his desk on 9-11...the TIMES of India reported in the summer that an invasion by the US of Afghanistan would come that fall...

The vile Demopublican Banker Regime has not missed a beat in waving the bloody shirt of the 9-11 false-flag operation to justify their wars for Oil, Opium and Israel. Now...look how silly the Republicans look calling Obama a Moslem...look how silly the Obama supporters look who thought that Goldman Sachs jackal was going to support peace...

If you want peace, you have to support peace candidates. If you support social justice, you are going to have to support candidates who support social justice...not drink the mass media's Demopublican Kool-Aid and buy into THEIR stable of Demopublican candidates.

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The whole time he was channeling GWB.

My ten year old was so confused he asked if the President was reading a speech by the old president and he couldn't understand why Obama would be doing that? "Is he making fun of Bush, Dad?"

Jeebus, from the mouth of babes...

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And again this morning... awesome. The rich are gonna make a killing off 30,000 dead 'Merkaaner kids. Who do we invade next? I said Kazakhstan. Those poor bastards need new roads too.

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Michael Moore is right: it's a tragedy to see all that hope flushed down the drain, to say nothing of the Afghan and American lives. Like Johnson before him, Obama is plunging us, face-first and eyes open, into the reeking quagmire.

A line of his speech stands out: he said that the wars have left our national unity "in tatters"; this, even as he makes it much, much worse.

Those of us who remember the Vietnam War and its impact on this country face a dire duty: to warn a whole new generation what is coming to them. I truly never thought we'd face that again in my lifetime,but here it is again; once again it's a Democratic president escalating a hopeless, utterly corrupt war.

The national fabric is "tattered" now, but we have yet to see the kind of disruption that was and will be required to end this tragedy. The war will come home, not just in caskets or damaged soldiers, but in riots, clouds of smoke, hovering military helicopters, and bombs going off, right here at home. Some of the bravest will die, here at home as well as abroad. And if history rhymes, the country will never fully recover. That's what happens when a president, elected in such passionate hope, betrays the country so flagrantly.

There is one big difference between now and 1964: there is a political movement in place to resist this slide into war and social collapse, and people who remember what it took last time. It may be a thin hope, but there is an election next year that could prove epochal. It's less than a year off, but we may still have a chance to choose political change, the real kind, over social collapse.

It's undignified to end this plea with a partisan plug, but I better be specific: a key element, among many, of that political movement is the Green Party. It's the only national peace party. So now that your illusions are destroyed, contact us: www.gp.org.

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The basic assumption is that 9/11 makes this the good war but having signed on 07/03/79 the Carter-Brzezinski's finding was to aid terrorists in Afghanistan to lure the Soviet Union to occupy the country, help support their client state, and thereby get bogged down in a Vietnam type quagmire. The idea of helping the Afghan people probably was not the priority.

So our cold war covert meddling, which wasn't so covert after Congress voted to supply stingers, came back to haunt us as the freedom fighters we helped create turned their eye to our meddling in the Middle East over the years. So sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander, we too get to feel the stings and arrows of some ideological acceptable collateral damage.
If we keep on this way we are just perpetuating our own disasters with this might makes right philosophy.

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Wasn't anyone listening to Obama's campaign speeches?

He promised to raise troop levels in Afghanistan when he became president.

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They'll simply take every resource we've got,
not change or fix anything,
and then require more.

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Dwight Eisenhower once said. "War will surprise you." What is meant here is that war is not a controllable force, but is always unpredictable. For President Obama to say we will be out in 2011 is hardly believable. He approached it like it was all under our control how we prosecute it and we could just turn it on and off like a light switch.

Since the war was lost eight years ago, there is no reason to believe the Afghanis are going to sign onto our war agenda and make things so nice and tidy that we can leave in 2011. The truth is, the Afghanis want us out of there. We are just another of a 5,000-year-old line of foreign invaders they have to expell as far as they are concerned.

Wars are easy to get into, hard to get out of. Obama's exit strategy and $2.00 will get me a good Starbuck's coffee.

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So of course he's gonna give you the MIDDLE FINGER speech and carry out his business as usual. But don't you worry. As the PUBLIC LAVA widens from NJ and VA to all 50 states by 2010 and 2012, BIG CHANGES WILL BE COMING AS THIS COUNTRY GETS PAINTED RED !

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I had the good sense to vote for Cynthia Mckinney when so many in my circles were praising Obama. I knew what a fraud he was, would turn into. The only good thing I can say about him is that he sure has proven me right. I look a lot smarter in my circles of friends and colleagues.

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Well the Big O finally stepped out into the sunlight and what do we discover, He is actually the ghost of President's past. The last War President, aka J.W. Bush. Well it is now Obama's War of Attrition. He prefers nation building in Afghanistan over Main Street USA. Congratulations Big O, you just became a one(1)term lame duck President. We Liberal/Progressives are starting to look for your replacement already.

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an eloquent appeal to our better natures before we send more of our young off again to kill more people.
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We can never derive any degree of victory in
Afghanistan. The Taliban (Afghan fighters) will
never allow any foreign invader
to dominate
their homeland, especially the hashish and
poppy fields. This surge is a grand mistake.
Many young Americans will die and our treasury
will be further dpleted by 30 billion dollars.
America is broke now. I guess a 'war tax' i in
order. Good luck America.

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