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Major Anti-Immigrant Figure Can't Pretend He's Not a Racist Anymore

By Heidi Beirich, SPLC's Hate Watch. Posted September 23, 2008.


Exposed: FAIR founder John Tanton's 20 years of correspondence with racists and white supremacists.
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ANN ARBOR, Mich. -- The Bentley Historical Library at the University of Michigan is an unassuming place, more like a small-town library than a research institute. But hidden away in 17 cardboard boxes deep inside the simple facility are the papers of John Tanton, the retired Michigan opthamologist who has been the most important figure in the modern American anti-immigration movement for three decades. The papers, which include more than 20 years of letters from the founder of the Federation for American Immigration Reform (FAIR) and a batch of other nativist groups, contain explosive material about Tanton's beliefs. They also show that FAIR, where Tanton still serves as a member of the board, has been well aware of Tanton's views and activities for years.

Tanton has long claimed that he is no racist -- that, in fact, he came to his immigration restrictionism through progressive concerns for population control and the environment, not disdain for the foreign born. He characterizes himself as a "fair person," and on his website he condemns the "unsavory characters whose views can easily be characterized as anti-American, anti-Semitic and outright racist."

Fair enough. But what do Tanton's letters have to say?

As it turns out, quite a lot. Although Tanton has been linked to racist ideas in the past -- fretting about the "educability" of Latinos, warning of whites being out-bred by others, and publishing a number of white nationalist authors -- the papers in the Bentley Library show that Tanton has for decades been at the heart of the white nationalist scene. He has corresponded with Holocaust deniers, former Klan lawyers and the leading white nationalist thinkers of the era. He introduced key FAIR leaders to the president of the Pioneer Fund, a white supremacist group set up to encourage "race betterment," at a 1997 meeting at a private club. He wrote a major funder to encourage her to read the work of a radical anti-Semitic professor -- to "give you a new understanding of the Jewish outlook on life" -- and suggested that the entire FAIR board discuss the professor's theories on the Jews. He practically worshipped a principal architect of the Immigration Act of 1924 (instituting a national origin quota system and barring Asian immigration), a rabid anti-Semite whose pro-Nazi American Coalition of Patriotic Societies was indicted for sedition in 1942.

As early as 1969, Tanton showed a sharp interest in eugenics, the "science" of breeding a better human race that was utterly discredited by the Nazis, trying to find out if Michigan had laws allowing forced sterilization. His interest stemmed, he wrote in a letter of inquiry that year, from "a local pair of sisters who have nine illegitimate children between them." Some 30 years later, he was still worrying about "less intelligent" people being allowed children, saying that "modern medicine and social programs are eroding the human gene pool."

Throughout, FAIR -- which, along with Tanton, refused repeated requests for comment for this story -- has stood by its man. Its 2004 annual report praised him for "visionary qualities that have not waned one bit." Around the same time, Dan Stein, who has led FAIR since 1988 as executive director or president and who was copied on scores of Tanton's letters, insisted FAIR's founder had "never asserted the inferiority or superiority of any racial, ethnic, or religious group. Never."

Blood and Soil


In the world view of John Tanton, successful societies are not based on a mere sharing of territory, values and political systems. Nations and their cultures, he has suggested on numerous occasions, are largely determined by biology -- race.

In a Nov. 13, 1994, letter to white nationalist columnist Lawrence Auster, a regular correspondent, Tanton suggested that the Declaration of Independence was actually a document based on the "bond of blood and ethnicity -- nationhood." Almost a year earlier, in a Dec. 10, 1993, letter to Garrett Hardin, a controversial ecology professor, he said: "I've come to the point of view that for European-American society and culture to persist requires a European-American majority, and a clear one at that." On Jan. 26, 1996, he wrote Roy Beck, head of the immigration restrictionist group NumbersUSA (and then an employee of Tanton's foundation U.S. Inc.), questioning whether Latinos were capable of governing California.

"I have no doubt that individual minority persons can assimilate to the culture necessary to run an advanced society," Tanton said in his letter to Beck, "but if through mass migration, the culture of the homeland is transplanted from Latin America to California, then my guess is we will see the same degree of success with governmental and social institutions that we have seen in Latin America." Referring to the changing California public schools, Tanton wondered "whether the minorities who are going to inherit California (85% of the lower-grade school children are now 'minorities' -- demography is destiny) can run an advanced society?"

For Tanton, the question was entirely rhetorical.

"The situation then is that the people who have been the carriers of Western Civilization are well on the way toward resigning their commission to carry the culture into the future," he wrote in an Aug. 8, 1997, letter to Harvard professor Samuel Huntington, a fellow immigration critic. "When this decline in numbers is coupled with an aging of the core population it begins to look as if the chances of Western Civilization passing into the history books are very good indeed."

This kind of thinking led Tanton to defend racial quotas imposed on immigrants. In a Nov. 3, 1995, memo to FAIR boss Dan Stein and the entire FAIR board of advisers, Tanton defended the infamous "White Australia" policy that restricted non-white immigration into that country from 1901 to 1973, saying it was not racist, but intended to protect native-born labor (the 1975 Racial Discrimination Act outlawed racial quotas in Australia). Tanton also mocked the idea that the 1882 Chinese Exclusion Act, banning Chinese immigration to the U.S., was racist.

Similarly, Tanton has defended America's Immigration Act of 1924, which formalized a racial quota system that was only dismantled in 1965. In fact, as shown in his correspondence, Tanton has long lionized a principal architect of the act, John B. Trevor Sr. (In addition to founding the American Coalition of Patriotic Societies, Trevor was an adviser to the extreme-right, anti-Catholic Christian Crusade of Billy James Hargis, who regularly referred to the Constitution and the Declaration of Independence as Communist documents.) Tanton arranged for the Bentley Library to house the papers of both Trevor and his son, long a Pioneer Fund board member and a close friend of Tanton's until his 2006 death.

Despite the elder Trevor's extremely unsavory past, Tanton has sent his unpublished autobiography to numerous friends, including, on Nov. 21, 2001, FAIR board member Donald Collins. In a cover letter, Tanton told Collins that the work of Trevor -- who distributed pro-Nazi propaganda, drew up plans to crush uprisings of "Jewish subversives," and warned shrilly of "diabolical Jewish control" of America -- should serve FAIR as "a guidepost to what we must follow again this time."

Communing with the Movement

John Tanton has not merely flirted with and adopted many of the core ideas of white nationalism over the past three decades. He has carried on correspondences with some of the key leaders of the white nationalist movement, meeting and even vacationing with some of them, and pushing many of their central ideas.

Over the years, his closest friend on the white nationalist scene seems to have been Jared Taylor, the man who began publishing American Renaissance, a racist, pseudo-scientific magazine focusing on race, intelligence and eugenics, in 1990. ("When blacks are left entirely to their own devices," Taylor wrote in its pages a few years ago, "Western civilization -- any kind of civilization -- disappears.")

Tanton, who met Taylor shortly after American Renaissance began publication, seems to have been particularly taken with Taylor's angry opposition to affirmative action, spelled out in Taylor's 1992 book, Paved With Good Intentions: The Failure of Race Relations in Contemporary America. On Nov. 12, 1993, Tanton wrote Taylor and three of his American Renaissance colleagues -- Wayne Lutton, who would later work for Tanton; Sam Francis, a white nationalist ideologue then working as a Washington Times columnist; and Jerry Woodruff, who wrote for the nativist publication Middle American News -- suggesting that their new journal take on literary critic Stanley Fish, who had defended affirmative action in an article for The Atlantic. Tanton enclosed "a little something" for Taylor's "start-up costs."

Tanton promoted Taylor's efforts repeatedly. On Dec. 15, 1994, he wrote a friend to suggest that he read Taylor's 1992 book. More remarkably, on Jan. 24, 1991, he wrote to the then-president of the Pioneer Fund, Harry Weyher, about Taylor's American Renaissance effort. And as recently as April 20, 1998, Tanton wrote to several FAIR employees, including Dan Stein, to ensure that they were receiving American Renaissance mailings: "I write to encourage keeping track of those on our same side of the issue, but who are nonetheless our competitors for dollars and members." (The bolded words were underlined in Tanton's original letter.)

Tanton also corresponded for years with the late Sam Francis, a one-time Washington Times columnist who was fired after details of a racist speech he gave at an American Renaissance conference became public. From 1999 until his death in 2005, Francis edited the crudely racist and nativist Citizens Informer, the tabloid published by the white supremacist Council of Conservative Citizens (CCC), an organization that says it "oppose[s] all efforts to mix the races of mankind."

What may have been most remarkable of all was Tanton's endorsement of a proposal from another friend -- Peter Brimelow, who would later start a racist anti-immigration website -- that FAIR hire Sam Francis to edit its newsletter. That proposal, which Tanton sent to FAIR's Dan Stein on Nov. 3, 1995, was made two months after The Washingon Times fired Francis for racism.

Tanton's contacts with other white nationalists also are instructive:

Beginning in the late 1980s, Tanton corresponded regularly with Virginia Abernethy, now a professor emeritus at Vanderbilt University. Abernethy is a member of the CCC and recently described herself as a "white separatist."
On June 26, 1996, Tanton wrote to Sam Dickson -- a Georgia lawyer who has represented the Ku Klux Klan, written for and been on the editorial advisory board of Holocaust denial publications, and spoken at several of the biannual conferences put on by American Renaissance -- to thank him for a good time during a visit by Tanton and his wife. "The next time I'm in Atlanta," Tanton wrote Dickson, "I hope to take one of your 'politically incorrect' tours."

In a Dec. 23, 1996, letter, Tanton complained that it was hard to write checks for Theodore O'Keefe, who was involved for years in the Holocaust-denying Institute for Historical Review, because O'Keefe would only use a pen name. It was not clear from the letter what O'Keefe had written for Tanton.

On June 17, 1998, Tanton wrote to Stan Hess, who was then a member of the CCC, about Hess' proposal to open a FAIR office in California (the letter was copied to Stein). The letter recounted how Tanton had "presented" Hess' idea to the FAIR board. Hess was arrested later that year for burning a Mexican flag at an Alabama CCC rally that was attended by an unrobed Klansman. Hess would go on in 1999 to help form the neofascist American Friends of the British National Party and, later, to become California state leader of a group headed by neo-Nazi and former Klan leader David Duke.

Tanton on 'the Jews'

In some ways, given his ideas, it's not surprising that John Tanton would cozy up to white nationalists and their fellow travelers. What is unexpected, even among long-time observers of the FAIR founder, is his attitude toward "the Jews."

In the late 1990s, Kevin MacDonald, a California State University, Long Beach, professor, was finishing up a trilogy of books that purported to show that Jews collectively work to undermine the dominant majorities in the host countries in which they live, including the United States. MacDonald said that Jews pursue these tactics -- including promoting non-white immigration into white-dominated nations -- in order to weaken the majority culture in a bid to enhance their own standing. He would later go on to speak and write for white nationalist groups across America.

Tanton liked what he read. On Dec. 28, 1998 -- the same year that the last two books of MacDonald's trilogy were published -- he wrote MacDonald, saying, "I hope we can meet some day." On that same date, Tanton sent a memo to Dan Stein and the FAIR board of directors about a MacDonald paper "on the segment of the Jewish community that has an open borders mentality." The paper, Tanton said, "would be fertile for group discussion at the forthcoming board meeting."

Earlier that month, on Dec. 10, 1998, Tanton also sent MacDonald's work to Cordelia Scaife May, a now-deceased millionaire philanthropist who gave regularly to far-right causes and was a close Tanton friend. "I'm sure [MacDonald's article] will give you a new understanding of the Jewish outlook on life, which explains a large part of the Jewish opposition to immigration reform," he wrote.

Tanton's criticism of religious groups wasn't limited to Jews, however. Over the years, he -- like some principals of FAIR -- lashed out at a variety of religious denominations, especially Catholics, for their welcoming attitude toward immigrants coming to America from the Third World. In his letter to the FAIR board suggesting a discussion of Kevin MacDonald's theories, for instance, he described "the Roman Catholic Church [and] several of the Protestant denominations, the Lutheran Church in particular," as being among "our opponents." In an earlier, May 24, 1994, letter to Roy Beck of NumbersUSA, he said that "one of the problems with churches is that they see themselves as universal, and as transcending national boundaries."

Endorsing Eugenics

For years, FAIR President Dan Stein has hotly denied that his organization had anything to do with eugenics. "Eugenics," he wrote in a 2004 op-ed in the Kansas City Star, "is pure junk science, and it is utterly unrelated to FAIR's efforts to bring order to immigration in America." Two months later, in a press release attacking the Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC) for suggesting otherwise, the group called SPLC's reporting "utterly specious" and "McCarthyist."

The press release went on to accuse the SPLC of unfairly linking FAIR to "a long discredited pseudo-science of eugenics" by noting the group had accepted $1.2 million from the eugenicist Pioneer Fund, ending in 1994. The release also claimed that the idea that FAIR had an interest in eugenics had been disproven.

Apparently, John Tanton failed to get that message.

On Dec. 30, 1994 -- at the end of the year that FAIR finally stopped soliciting Pioneer donations (after negative publicity) and issued its denunciation of eugenics -- Tanton wrote to German academic Wolfgang Bosswick to defend the Pioneer Fund, saying its critics were the "hard (Marxist) left in the United States."

On Sept. 18, 1996, he wrote to now-deceased California multimillionaire Robert K. Graham, a eugenicist who started a sperm bank to collect the semen of Nobel Prize-winning scientists: "Do we leave it to individuals to decide that they are the intelligent ones who should have more kids? And more troublesome, what about the less intelligent, who logically should have less? Who is going to break the bad news [to less intelligent individuals], and how will it be implemented?"

On May 21, 1997, Tanton wrote to Richard Lynn -- a race "scientist" who claims that black people "are more psychopathic than whites" and suffer from a "personality disorder" characterized by a poverty of feeling and lack of shame -- to congratulate Lynn on his book, Dysgenics, on how less intelligent individuals are outbreeding the intelligent. The next year, on Feb. 9, 1998, he wrote to Pioneer Fund President Harry Weyher to propose that Weyher hire Lynn to write "a study of Barry Mehler." Mehler, the Ferris State University professor who founded the Institute for the Study of Academic Racism, is a harsh critic of race science and eugenics.

FAIR officials may not have known of these contacts, but they certainly knew of others. On Oct. 29, 1998, for instance, Tanton wrote a memo for his file on Harry Weyher discussing the Pioneer Fund's new website and a paper on "sub-replacement fertility" by Roger Pearson, a notorious race scientist who heads the Institute for the Study of Man. The memo was copied to FAIR's Dan Stein and K.C. McAlpin, the executive director of ProEnglish, a group on whose board Tanton now sits.

Most remarkable of all, however, was the Feb. 13, 1997, gathering organized by Tanton at the New York Racquet and Tennis Club. Three years after FAIR had stopped taking Pioneer Fund money, Tanton brought FAIR board members Henry Buhl, Sharon Barnes and Alan Weeden -- along with Peter Brimelow, future founder of the VDARE.com hate site -- to a meeting with Pioneer Fund President Harry Weyher. The meeting, held expressly to discuss fundraising efforts to benefit FAIR, was memorialized in a Feb. 17, 1997, memo that Tanton wrote for his "FAIR Fund-Raising File." A year later, on Jan. 5, 1998, Tanton wrote to John Trevor, a Pioneer Fund board member and the son of the notorious pro-Nazi eugenicist John Trevor Sr., to thank him for his personal "handsome contribution" to FAIR.

It's not that Tanton didn't understand, just as well as Stein and the other leaders of FAIR, exactly how controversial eugenics was. After starting his own eugenicist group, the Society for Genetic Education, in 1996, he wrote to Graham, the California eugenicist, to discuss public relations strategies. In a Sept. 18, 1996, letter, Tanton explained how his new group's website "emphasized mankind's use of eugenic principles on plants and the lower animals as a way to condition the public to the idea of genetic manipulation, and raise the question of its application to the human race." Elaborating, he added: "We report ways [eugenics] is currently being done, but under the term genetics rather than eugenics."

Immigration and Race

Throughout its history, the United States has been subjected to periodic outbreaks of xenophobic nativism, angry reactions to waves of immigrants who are seen as somehow different than "real" Americans. These movements, directed at different times at Germans, Catholics, Jews, Asians, southern Europeans, blacks and others, have typically been undergirded by racist stereotyping. Again and again, the new immigrants are described as stupid, ugly, disloyal, diseased and more.

Today, no one disputes the vulgar racism of the 1920s Ku Klux Klan, which grew to nearly 4 million members on the strength of hating Catholics and Jews. And much the same can be said of nativist movements from the Know-Nothings of the 1840s, who saw German Catholics as dangerous subverters of American democracy, to the racist demonization of Mexican "wetbacks" during the 20th century.

But John Tanton and his Federation for American Immigration Reform have repeatedly claimed that they are different, that FAIR and its founder are not linked to the irrational fears and hatreds of the past. Their critics, they say angrily, are simply tarring them with the brush of racism to unfairly denigrate their arguments.

As the Bentley Library files show, that is far from true.

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RE: what's there to disagree with?
Posted by: abstractartgirl on Sep 23, 2008 4:43 AM   
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.....so sad, when inbreeding goes awry. It's not mentioned in the article (page 1, paragraph 5) who the males were that were responsible for the 9 children, but according to the current breed of Republicans, they would be encouraged to have more of the same.

From the depths of my heart, Jeronimus, I hope these weren't your relatives. (But if they were, I totally support your right to live even if I disagree vehemently with your comments)
With love, and another vote for democracy,
Karen

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RE: You, apparently, are no different than those you criticize.
Posted by: Plexius2 on Sep 23, 2008 5:03 AM   
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". With all these multicultural identities of color demanding their rights ands preening about their wonderfulness, it's certainly high time for White identity to re-assert itself.

We, White people, have a right to be us, and only we can be us.


Let me remind you that racial posturing is not universal. In fact, most people I know from different races and blends do NOT "demand" any special rights nor do they "preen...about their wonderfulness." However, you clearly belong to that small minority of preeners that you criticize. Perhaps you should do something about your own xenophobic racial hatred, before attacking others.

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RE: Jeronimus Bush's painting of American damnation
Posted by: Plexius2 on Sep 23, 2008 5:13 AM   
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"It's 2008. Worrying whether something is "racist" or not is so 1990's.

Hundreds, thousands, even tens of thousands of years of racism and tribalism did not suddenly end in the year 2000, honey. Wake up!

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RE: Jeronimus is RIGHT ON!!
Posted by: offplanet on Sep 23, 2008 8:14 AM   
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I'm perfectly happy to allow people like you your opinions based on false ideology, false statistics, and false science. Freedom of speech does not shy away from the ignorant, but I'll never understand for the life of me why you get so upset when other people call you out on what you are: RACIST.

You see, those of us who've evolved from a closeted world view recognize that there is no such thing as a white race. Obviously there's no such thing as a latino race. Science proved over a hundred years ago that there is only one race of people on this planet. It's people like you, all hung up on borders and skin tone that keep these backward ideas floating around.

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» RE: Jeronimus is RIGHT ON!! Posted by: BCcovers
» You're Welcome Posted by: BigElectricCat
You may not be as white as you think you are
Posted by: sarahk on Sep 23, 2008 8:25 AM   
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I challenge you to get your DNA tested. You may be suprised to find that you have a recent non-white ancestor. You may want to get that checked before claiming you are 100% white.

Also, you may be from an ethnic background that only recently received "White" status. If you are Irish, Italian, Slavic, Eastern European, or any non-Anglo-Saxon Protestant ethnic mix, your great-grandparents were seen as dangerous to the political and cultural foundations of the US. With their Catholisism, poverty, strange languages and large families, these groups were feared by the "White" community.

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Hey, Jeronimus!
Posted by: mainspark on Sep 23, 2008 8:46 AM   
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I can't imagine that your hood and robe are wash-and-wear. So, how much does it cost to have them dry cleaned?

Just curious.

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Caucasian Pleeze!
Posted by: Fencerider on Sep 23, 2008 8:51 AM   
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White people (I am one) are historically the problem. It's easy for you to cry foul for the white people, because this is the first time in our US History that caucasians have had something to worry about. Good I say. Majority status is over Honkey, get used to it. We have no idea what it must have been like to be non-white in eras of lynching and slavery and too many injustices to count. "it's certainly high time for White identity to re-assert itself"......you sound like such a bigot here. Pride of culture is one thing, igniting a race war is another. Dude, you are scary as hell and I think your thinly veiled racist remarks should be relegated to the dustbin of history.

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» Waaake Up Whiiite People! Posted by: BigElectricCat
» RE: Caucasian Pleeze! Posted by: wanealy
» RE: Caucasian Pleeze! Posted by: BigElectricCat
So who cares what you think
Posted by: HBoyer on Sep 23, 2008 5:18 AM   
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Your organizations is racists against Caucasians.

So who cares what you think. I consider it just more BS to create hate and division in America.

Illegal Aliens are criminals and should be treated like criminals.

Pure and simple.

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» Shut your.... Posted by: Fencerider
» RE: Shut your.... Posted by: Dboy
» RE: Shut your.... Posted by: Fencerider
Racist being Egged on by Profiteers
Posted by: Purple Girl on Sep 23, 2008 5:49 AM   
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RACISTS....
What is Your Nationality???
When did your ancestors come to this country..WHY?
How were they Treated when they Arrived?
Who discriminated against them? Who helped them Up?
This 'immigration' BS has been going on ever since man learned to travel.It was not to control Our country.."Give US your Tired Your Poor, your huddle masses Yearning to be free"- All you so called "Patriots" look at the inscription on the Statue of Liberty...I'll Wait....
Okay so don't you OWE Your ancestors the Honor of NOT BEING One of Those WHO Kept Your Kin Down? Is it not your sacred Duty as an American to not only Honor our founding Fathers Ideals, but the hopes and dreams of our ancestors who arrived here with a suitcase(bag) and a shilling/Rubel...Pittance in their Pockets????
Until this conversation turns to WHAT causes this perpetual Propagnda, No One Will Be Free!
It is NOT the Mexicans, or the Pacific Islanders, or the Asians..the cause of our hardship lies in the Business practices of Multinational Conglomerates- who are working very hard to drive down the cost of Human labor- to increase their Profit margins!Go after those who use immigrants as a Threat/Bargining Chip against US workers- using immigrants to drive down or stagnate wages, rape benefit packages and flood the market creating stiffer competition, Lower Expectations and demands by workers.
If we demanded they treat these immigrant (esp illegal immigrants) with the same Worker Rights and Employer obligations as US this Unbalancing of the Commodity known as Human labor would cease.
If you make companies pay these Workers at the same standard as US_ They will stop hiring them (will get more bang from for their Buck from an Educated, ambitious, needing References Native). The Human rights violation committed by these Corps (Esp Big Ag Business) are not just a Black eye to our Credo's, but a kick in the Teeth to our Workers.
Consider you get a pittance of a wage which does not keep up with the cost of living (Check comes from a Corp). You go home and Write checks to cover essentials to a Corp, What is left over you spend on a Corp Product, and if you can't quite afford it now you can get a Loan from a Corp- with an interest rate higher than your saving account yeilds monthly.
SO WHO EXACTLY IS SCREWING THE AMERICAN WORKER??? NOT ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS, BUT INCS.
this is why Mr. Keating 5, 'the Deregulator; can't figure out which script he's on during speeches, or while voting in the Senate. He didn't Even support his own Immigration Bill when it came Up! Profiteers and their Puppets in Gov't LOVE the influx of cheap Undocumented and easily abused immigrants, it keeps the Natives Under control, Humble and desperate

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What really matters about immigration
Posted by: Growthbuster on Sep 23, 2008 7:23 AM   
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I hate to see so much energy wasted trying to parse the motives of those advocating what amounts to sustainable immigration policy.

It should be clear to us an economy that must create millions of new jobs year over year will also liquidate our natural resources.

It should be clear that we are exploiting illegal immigrants, separating families, and retarding the development of their home nations so we can have cheap food, cheap houses and cheaply manicured lawns.

If we, as progressives, have true compassion for all the people of the planet, we'll look at the big picture of what is best for those families and those nations over the long haul, and what is best for future generations of all nations.

Think about it. The current system is not the answer.

Dave Gardner
Producer/Director
Hooked on Growth: Our Misguided Quest for Prosperity
www.growthbusters.com

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Spell check
Posted by: susanhathaway on Sep 23, 2008 7:39 AM   
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That's "ophthalmologist."

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immigration
Posted by: Dboy on Sep 23, 2008 8:19 AM   
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This is about border security and national sovereignty, not race. Good luck with that race-baiting though.

dboy

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» RE: immigration Posted by: terrymo
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And? And what?
Posted by: dockboy on Sep 23, 2008 9:04 AM   
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I have to say, this article is a do-nothing rant. It accomplishes nothing and offers nothing. Heidi Beirich seems to have a cob up her ass about racism, or maybe it's just a fetish she enjoys. All she writes is, racism this and racism that. Anyone she has ideological differences with? Oh, you must be a racist!

Does racism and bigotry exist? Of course, it does, but nothing like it did decades ago. Sure, we have more progress to make, but we have come along way. Unfortunately, people like Heidi exist, to misinterpret events, stir up hatred, and just outright lie. She contributes nothing towards building a bridge between ethnic groups. In fact, she is a hinderance.

We need solutions, not hate-mongering. The fact is, immigration is an issue that needs to be addressed, not ignored by calls of racism. John Tanton is not a major figure, and is not representative of the majority of Americans who want immigration reform. Wanting immigration reform does not automatically equate to banning immigration or hating immigrants. I personally, think the path to immigration needs to be made simpler.

Instead of making immigrants wait years and file tons of paperwork, shorten the paperwork, process their applications quickly, do basic background checks and let them become citizens within a year. If they don't want to become citizens, why not have a migrant worker program allowing for short-term residency. Then enforce their return. Simple yes, but still reform, and a potential resolution.

You see, Heidi Beirich doesn't give a rat's ass about solutions. Her existance derives from stirring up hatred and expressing lies. She's a self-seeking, attention-grabbing bitch. Alternet should be embarrassed by her presence.

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» RE: And? And what? Posted by: wanealy
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» RE: And? And what? Posted by: dockboy
This is why the immigration question will never be solved
Posted by: Kym525 on Sep 23, 2008 9:24 AM   
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I hate the be the bearer of bad news, but this is the mess white supremacy has created. Like everything based upon this false premise, it offers simple solutions for simple minded. This is exactly the same mindset that dominated Nazi Germany in the 30's and 40's. Blame those "illegals" for all the problems we're having in this country. Not the government, who continues to destroy the middle class. Blame Pedro and Pablita who clean the bathrooms at Wal-Mart for minimum wage. Make the corrupt government of Mexico responsible for the welfare of its citizens instead of beholden to violent drug cartels? Keep our government out of the assassination of lawfully elected leaders we don't like business? Nah, too difficult. Much easier to claim that "brown people" are outbreeding whites and will soon "enslave" white people.

(LOL--not a bad idea really--especially if I can have Brad Pitt as my houseboy. I think he'd look very nice in a starched white apron and nothing else).

The entire article and the quoted letters prove this point beyond a shadow of a doubt. FAIR (which is anything BUT) is willing to dabble in failed pseudo-science and feel-good nationalism. Until those who want to see REAL immigration reform come to pass separate themselves from the bigot contingent, nothing will change. The bratty children are running rampant and the adults are being drowned out.

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Immigrants
Posted by: frank69 on Sep 23, 2008 10:05 AM   
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Unless you are a Native American Indian, then join me and get your airline or boat ticket, and let's all us "Whites" get the hell back to Europe where we came from!

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LMAO
Posted by: Spiritgirl on Sep 23, 2008 10:43 AM   
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I've found that those espousing this man's theories about racial separation and immigration, forget their own history! The fact is their parents came to this country from somewhere else! The only "Native Americans" are mostly located on the Reservations that have been set up! The truth about this intolerance and hate they continue to spew is not just because of ignorance!

The trade policies that the US has engaged in, in the last 15 years or so have driven wages down in those countries as well as our own. The people that have come in illegally are picking the fruit, cleaning the houses and offices, working in fast food restaurants, and construction, in many cases may not get paid or are paid less than citizens! You want to go after people, how about fairer and saner international trade policies, how about the people that hire these people because they profit from the labor, how about acknowledging that while you were born in this country - you too are an immigrant!?!

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I don't care if he's a racist or not
Posted by: rickiey on Sep 23, 2008 11:17 AM   
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I oppose illegal immigration, based on MY thinking, not his.

We need immigration reform, to do two things:

1. Seal the border.
2. Speed up the LEGAL immigration process, because we need MORE legal immigrants (they are what made this country great in the first place)

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OOOH okay. Now I see.
Posted by: wanealy on Sep 23, 2008 1:28 PM   
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At first I thought you might be serious. Now I realize, you're just crazy. Thanks for clearing that up. I appreciate the gnosis.

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Ad Hominen Attacks Are Usually Made By Lazy People Who Cannot Address The Issues
Posted by: bcgirl125 on Sep 23, 2008 2:07 PM   
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Most Americans do not want the country swamped by illegal migrant workers. These people commit more crimes than either native-born Americans or properly screened, legal immigrants, they swamp hospitals and other social services, and they bring down wages.

You don't have to be a racist to object to this, you just need a healthy sense of self-preservation. This article is no different than the smears on right-wing sites that complain about Obama's associates without examining his actual policies.

Currently on Alternet, there is a self congratulatory article claiming that this site does not promote dishonesty, and is supposedly more high-minded than the opposition ... then along comes a diversionary attack like this to blow it right out of the water, on the same day no less! LOL.

The personal background of any given political activist places a distant second to the actual issues at hand.

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To the Nativists and Racists In This Thread
Posted by: kyledeb on Sep 23, 2008 2:25 PM   
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Please keep posting. It's doing all of us that come from a pro-migrant viewpoint a favor. It's always a delight to see nativists/racists try to defend FAIR when revelations like these come out. It exposes the true extremity of the positions people are taking.

For those that suggest Tanton doesn't influence their viewpoints, then why not disown him, FAIR, NumbersUSA and all the other nativist organizations? If you truly do not follow them, then speak out against them.

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» Tanton Who? Posted by: edgar1
Who Cares what Tanton stands for
Posted by: gellero1 on Sep 23, 2008 9:37 PM   
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Multicultural societies are failures. That's the issue.

Our nation doesn't deserve to be the dumping ground of excess population by Mexican Plutocrats who are corrupt and won't take care of their own.

As far as many of us are concerned, both McCain and Obama are TRAITORS on this issue.

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Well Done
Posted by: Dboy on Sep 24, 2008 1:12 AM   
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Congrats, you guys just feel into the hole that the writer of this article dug for you. She created a propaganda piece that attempted to equate the respect for national borders with raving racism, and you guys jumped right on in. Well done.

Sure, you might see the likes of Sean Hannity or O'reilly coming from a mile away, but when the stupidity comes from your own side it wipes you out. Use your own mind. See what the writer really did in this piece, and try to be more careful. Mindless agreement with everything "your side" says is never a good idea.

dboy

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I'm for OPEN BORDERS NOW. It's good for our economy and its good for democracy.
Posted by: yellow on Sep 24, 2008 2:50 PM   
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Most of the posters here complain about globalization. Locking poor people into low wage countries will ensure globalization. Allowing them to flee poor conditions abroad, often created by labor displacing US foreign direct investment and subsidized grain dumping which eliminates farmers from the market and causes unemployment and rural to urban migration, will create wage increases through labor shortages eventually steming the tide of outmigration to the US. Locking people into foreign poverty only promotes more US capital flight to low wage areas.

Diversity prevents racism and fascism. It creates new political coalitions and forces people to adopt tolerance in their daily lives as a survival strategy. Small town white Republican conservatism has gotten us into the current mess. Fresh cultural perspectives will get us out of it and save our democracy. Don't see this as a hostile invasion. See immigration as providing the fresh ideas, energies and aspirations that preserved American prosperity, uniqueness and greatness for over two centuries.

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SICK AND TIRED OF CLAIMS OF RACISM
Posted by: Paul1939 on Sep 26, 2008 7:36 PM   
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When it comes to whether massive immigration, legal or illegal immigration, is good for the US it doesn't make any difference whether every person who opposes is a racist or isn't a racist.

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