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Enforcement on Steroids: Homeland Security's Emerging Immigration Police State (Part I)

By Joshua Holland, AlterNet. Posted May 21, 2008.


Forced drugging. Abuse. Death. That's what workplace-based immigration enforcement without deeper reform looks like.
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Last week, hundreds of Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) agents, flanked by helicopters, a trail of SUVs and a convoy of buses, descended on the tiny town of Postville, Iowa. They set up a perimeter around the 60-acre kosher meat-processing plant operated by the global giant Agriprocessors, Inc. and conducted the largest workplace raid in U.S. history. Around 400 people were arrested -- most from Mexico, Eastern Europe and Guatemala -- representing 40 percent of the plant's workers and 17 percent of the town's population. Warrants for another 300 were issued.

Some would call it a victory for law and order. But a closer look at the showy example of "getting tough on illegals" offers some insight into what immigration restrictionists are really asking for when they call for more immigration enforcement.

During a similar sweep last year, ICE generated some bad publicity when reporters found that a number of young children had been left unattended when their parents were arrested. So 56 of those arrested last week -- mostly mothers of small kids -- were released on "humanitarian grounds." Nonetheless, a federal lawsuit filed on behalf of dozens of the Postville detainees "noted that a number of immigrant workers' children have been stranded with baby sitters and other caretakers as a result of the raid."

The suit charges that some of the detained workers are victims of crimes by Agriprocessors, Inc., which may entitle them to a visa, and accuses the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) of arbitrary and indefinite detention and violating the workers' constitutional rights.

According to the Associated Press, an attorney who interviewed some of those swept up in the raid said that the company itself "obtained false identification for immigrant workers." But in the overwhelming majority of these raids -- 98 percent, according to the Washington Post -- the only people to pay any penalty are poor people trying to earn a substandard wage working in America's growing unregulated economy.

Meanwhile, ICE charged many of the detained with "identity theft" for those faked papers, effectively giving immigration hard-liners what Congress hasn't granted them through the legislative process: serious criminal charges for what have always been misdemeanor immigration violations at most.

In this case, as in many others like it, many of the workers appear to have been seriously exploited. The AP reported that the plant's management "improperly withheld money from employees' paychecks for 'immigration fees,' didn't allow workers to use the restroom during 10-hour shifts, physically abused workers and didn't compensate them for overtime work."

According to MSNBC, workers at the plant were routinely started at $5 per hour for their first three or four months on the job and then raised to $6, still well below Iowa's minimum wage of $7.25.

Iowa Labor Commissioner David Neil confirmed to the Des Moines Register that Agriprocessors was being investigated by the state on suspicion of wage violations, paying people off the books and hiring underage workers. A copy of the federal warrant obtained by the Register described an incident in which "a supervisor covered the eyes of an employee with duct tape and struck him with a meat hook."

It's unclear what the raids' impact will be on the ongoing investigations into the company's workplace violations. With hundreds of workers -- and potential witnesses -- carted away, Jill Cashen, a spokesperson for the United Food and Commercial Workers (UFCW), asked: "how can justice ever be served on these exploitation issues?"

Agriprocessor's management must have been pleased with the timing of the raid. Not only did it put at least a crimp in the ongoing investigations of serious allegations of abuse by the company, it also derailed an effort by UFCW to organize the plants' workers and give them a shot at bargaining with management for better working conditions.


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Family Values, Indeed!
Posted by: AlexLawyer on May 21, 2008 12:36 AM   
Current rating: 4    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
This article illuminates yet another facet of the pervasive, egregious mean-spiritedness of the political far right. Denial of healthcare to children, use of cluster bombs and landmines in civilian areas, wholesale slaughter of innocents in Iraq and Afghanistan, prosecution of political enemies on trumped-up charges, silencing of scientists and whistleblowers, abuse of National Security Letters and surveillance programs, harrassment of abortion providers, gay-bashing, ad nauseam. Since the dominance of American politics by evangelical Christians we have become callous, greedy, violent and arrogant. It is time that Americans reasserted their values and put paid to this appalling moral decline masquerading as righteousness and patriotism.

» one word: Relax! Posted by: TheJibreelaMonsters
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» RE: one word: Relax! Posted by: abbadon2007
» RE: Family Values, Indeed! Posted by: dsmidiman
» RE: Family Values, Indeed! Posted by: pfeifer999
» who's the enabler? Posted by: pfeifer999
» RE: Family Values, Indeed! Posted by: dsmidiman
» RE: Family Values, Indeed! Posted by: pfeifer999
simplicity
Posted by: richholland on May 21, 2008 1:50 AM   
Current rating: 5    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
charge the company for the difference between the tradeunion required salary and actual paid salary and an extra fine of 100%.
Thats the way western europe handels it.

» RE: simplicity Posted by: BCcovers
The UK is Overrun By Immigrants - Mass Immigration Is Unofficial Government Policy
Posted by: opmoc on May 21, 2008 3:11 AM   
Current rating: 4    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
The culture of entire Towns and Cities has been completely changed.

More than 50% of the population of London is not of English origin.

Anyone who dares to challenge this policy is branded racist.

England is already far too overpopulated - but the Government wants us swamped with cheap labour.

I'm not in the slightest bit racist - and my friends represent a fair cross section of the local population - ie their ethnic origins are from all over the World.

But this policy is just complete lunacy.

Much of the immigration is legal - due to Eastern Europe joining the EU...

But it is just becoming completely ridiculous.

The situation is that as the rest of the World becomes poorer and poorer - due to overpopulation and Western exploitation the desire to move to a country perceived as being rich is overwhelming.

The process can only be halted, by ending the exploitation of the poor and encouraging education, development and birth control.

Otherwise current "rich" European and American culture will simply be overrun by weight of numbers.

» You have no idea Posted by: pfeifer999
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» RE: You have no idea Posted by: pfeifer999
» RE: You have no idea Posted by: marchpet
» please don't straw man me Posted by: pfeifer999
» RE: please don't straw man me Posted by: marchpet
» RE: please don't straw man me Posted by: pfeifer999
» One issue at a time please Posted by: pfeifer999
» Not only Muslims Posted by: countingdaisies
» Right on Posted by: pfeifer999
» Lies, damned lies and statistics Posted by: John Annis
» it's worse than you think Posted by: pfeifer999
» RE: it's worse than you think Posted by: countingdaisies
» RE: it's worse than you think Posted by: pfeifer999
» It's history--get over it! Posted by: ikonoklast
» Great Post Thank You nm Posted by: opmoc
America at its worst
Posted by: marchpet on May 21, 2008 3:22 AM   
Current rating: 3    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
Just wait for a whole slew of immigrant hating racist trolls to emerge on this comments page in the next few hours. No doubt some of the same people who voted for Hillary Clinton in W. Virginia and Kentucky.

» RE: America at its worst Posted by: richholland
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» RE: America at its worst Posted by: Dakota64
» I love East Boston Posted by: TheJibreelaMonsters
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» RE: America at its worst Posted by: Walks-in-Storms
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Simplicity
Posted by: Baal_Labs on May 21, 2008 4:09 AM   
Current rating: 5    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
Plus mandatory one day in jail for the CEO for each illegal worker. (For the CEO, not the flunky hiring manager.) (Doubled for each succeeding violation.) (And the day in jail cascades through any contract agencies, so the CEO and owners of agencies cannot insulate themselves.)

» RE: Simplicity Posted by: richholland
» 84gawker Posted by: jbwestwood
I think I should sign up for a career in law enforcement
Posted by: blogbooks on May 21, 2008 4:24 AM   
Current rating: 2    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
I think that would really frustrate you people.

Since, you know, you hate when the laws of the United States are enforced, our borders secured, and our sovereignty maintained.

Just what is your agenda anyway?

false dichotomies
Posted by: pfeifer999 on May 21, 2008 4:44 AM   
Current rating: 4    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
It's a damned shame that the issue of immigration is locked down in yet another family of rigid false dichotomies.

False dichotomy #1:

On the one side you have people who only want to punish the poor people who come here desperate for work.

On the other side you have folks like Joshua Holland, who only want to punish the corporations that hire and abuse the immigrants.

Why can't we do both? Let's enforce labor laws against corporations. Let's detain and deport people who shouldn't be here. I like "both".

False dichotomy #2

Three shocking stories about people dying in ICE detention . . . so we simply have to stop detaining and deporting illegal immigrants entirely, because these 3-4 people died in ICE detention over the course of the last ??? years.

On the one hand, some people who say "tough shit" and say the system is just fine.

On the other, those who say we should stop deporting entirely because some might die in custody.

The three anecdotes that Josh uses in his story about people who died while in ICE custody are tragic. I believe every human life is precious, and that we should fix the ICE detention system so that it takes care of detainees. Again, why can't I choose "both"? Let's continue to round up and deport, but let's fix the system so detainees don't die. I like "both".

» RE: false dichotomies Posted by: Joshua Holland
» clarification Posted by: pfeifer999
» RE: clarification Posted by: countingdaisies
» RE: false dichotomies Posted by: Lauren
» RE: false dichotomies Posted by: Old Skeptic
» RE: false dichotomies Posted by: froghat
» exactly right Posted by: pfeifer999
ICE the American Gestapo
Posted by: citizenjoe on May 21, 2008 4:56 AM   
Current rating: 4    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
Immigrants are in many ways (not all) being treated like Jews in Germany under the Nazis in the 1930's (before the "final solution" for inferiors)-- arrested by the special police and sent away to camps without any rights at all. Immigrants and others are being change with special crimes-- "identity theft". There are two important but not obvious things to notice here"|:
1) The American state is treating foreigners as inferior human beings (like the Jews)-- not given basic human rights. This is American supremacism. National supremacism is a central element of fascism, as are special police and persecution under arbitrary laws.

2) The arbitrary application of draconian laws to peaceful members of our society who are foreigners applies as well to all citizens-- how are these police to know who is and who is not a citizen until after they have been thrown into camps without council or rights? - So this can happen to anyone that the American Gestapo is to told to capture, for any reason whatever-- don't like their looks, don't like their politics, for example.

Fascism friends, fascism.

» An overreach, even for you Posted by: brunowe
» Yes you are Posted by: brunowe
» I thought you were a bright guy Posted by: citizenjoe
» invective? Posted by: pfeifer999
» Well put! Posted by: citizenjoe
» evidence please Posted by: pfeifer999
» uh, maybe not Posted by: pfeifer999
» So, I am anti Semitic? Posted by: citizenjoe
» another straw man Posted by: pfeifer999
» RE: uh, maybe not Posted by: Lauren
» RE: uh, maybe not Posted by: froghat
» RE: ICE the American Gestapo Posted by: desidid
» But they're tryin' Posted by: Joshua Holland
» RE: But they're tryin' Posted by: desidid
» evidence please Posted by: pfeifer999
Intelligent Discussion
Posted by: Dakota64 on May 21, 2008 5:02 AM   
Current rating: 4    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
Name calling is not productive in an intelligent exchange of ideas or beliefs. My family came from England in 1931.They had the whole Ellis Island experience. Being law abiding citizens they went through the proper process and became US Citizens. We still have a bakery in East Boston, Massachusetts.
Allowing people Yes, Illegal Aliens, from any nationality to come here use our Citizen Services without paying into the system unless they have stolen or false identities is wrong. The only tax that is legitimately paid is the sales taxes that exist in each state. These workers are hired for one simple reason. They cost less to employers! Yes, they are hard working people. Yes, the overwhelming majority are good people and only want to improve the lives of their families. Yes, these employers shoul be heavily sanctioned. Sadly, they have no right to come here and undercut wages and put American Citizens out of work. They also do not have the right to jump ahead of all those who apply legally for citizenship. For those who say " They do jobs Americans won't do. " That's right they do. Because employers are not offering a reasonable wage to an American Citizen.It is called " The American Dream." No dream can flourish unless it is sought after with integrity. As for the children, I agree it is sad and should be handled better. But, it should be handled. To use your logic a woman could hop the fence in your back yard and give birth. There by making you reasponsible for the care of the child for the rest of his or her life. When Pro-Illegal people start doing this, I will rethink my logic.

We Need More Work Visas
Posted by: Mexitli on May 21, 2008 5:17 AM   
Current rating: 2    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
People come "illegally" because they have no choice.

Too many workers chasing too few visas.

The U.S. needs the workers.

Mexico and Centram countries has them.

But the U.S. immigration policies are stuck in the 40's.

Google this:
Jason Riley "Let Them In" The Case For Open Borders

There simply arent enough LEGAL ways for these workers to immigrate so that they can work legally.

» RE: We Need More Work Visas Posted by: Joshua Holland
» Something has to happen Posted by: Mexitli
» RE: Something has to happen Posted by: Joshua Holland
» Correct, but Posted by: citizenjoe
» Same Boat. Posted by: Dakota64
» RE: We Need More Work Visas: No choice? Posted by: Joshua Holland
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Accurate Information
Posted by: Dakota64 on May 21, 2008 5:59 AM   
Current rating: 5    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
Please show me the accurate studies that perpetuate this falsehood of needing foreign workers in the US. The Government studies are tainted by Big Business. Studies by Big Business are tainted by their want of low wage workers. I don't show up in the manipulated unemployment numbers because I refuse unemployment compensation. Not to mention those who when their unemployment runs out their statistic disappears even if still unemployed. I have no agenda here. I am an unemployed Heavy Equipment Mechanic. I have applied to almost every company in a sixty mile radius of Revere, Ma. I have seen for myself who is being employed in my stead. I have been told that I can have a job but at a ridiculously low rate of pay. I have been told that I need to speak or at least understand spanish to get hired. Maybe I am the only one in the country facing this problem and I should shut up. Maybe the US Government or Big Business never lies about the information they compile. WMD's in Iraq. Enron. I'm just say'in.

» RE: Accurate Information Posted by: Last Chance
» RE: Accurate Information Posted by: Lauren
» RE: Accurate Information Posted by: countingdaisies
» Maybe Lauren has the answer.... Posted by: pfeifer999
» RE: Accurate Information Posted by: froghat
» YES Last Chance Posted by: pfeifer999
Economic Refugees!
Posted by: Cybershaman on May 21, 2008 6:06 AM   
Current rating: 5    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
Why not work to help these countries build up an economic infrastructure comparable to ours so their people are not impelled to come here looking for work? And I'm not talking about sweat shops that only exploit their labor and don't pay them enough to actually improve their lives. Why spend billions of dollars on walls and checkpoints and draconian security measures when we could use that same money to build roads and dams and bridges and utility lines and... ???
Halliburton has already built 'tent prisons' in Texas to hold 12 million people. Like the above poster said, it won't be Jews this time but Mexicans! These camps will become overcrowded and eventually we will be spending more money on healthcare for these people than we want to and then we will stop and disease will spread and we'll have to do something drastic and...
See, that's the problem, once you get this train moving down the track it's hard to control where it's heading. Because we rely on stereotypes to understand what happened in Germany we run the risk of creating the same phenomena without realizing it. They used the issue of 'illegal immigrants' to label the Roma and the Jews as 'criminals' just as we are doing.
With a twelve year wait for a visa, the legitimate way to enter this country is a cruel joke ... especially if you're not white! Stop demonizing these people and realize that we have to solve this problem in a respectful manner. When you base your solutions on a general contempt of a population, nothing good can come out of it.

» The effects will be marginal Posted by: Mexitli
» RE: The effects will be marginal Posted by: Cybershaman
» RE: conomic Refugees! Posted by: Old Skeptic
» RE: conomic Refugees! Posted by: froghat
Postville: Backstory
Posted by: picabia on May 21, 2008 6:13 AM   
Current rating: 5    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
This situation at the kosher meatpacking plant in Postville, IA has been a catastrophe in the making for many years. It is not simply another corporate employer preying on undocumented workers who are ultimately pawned in a high-visibility raid by ICE agents.

Postville represents a profound cultural collision between the Chabad Hasidim from Crown Heights in Brooklyn, who acquired the plant in the late 1980's, and the gentile community in which it is located. The practice of facilitating "documentation" was, from the beginning, a routine part of the process of acquiring (grossly underpaid) workers for the slaughterhouse floor. The practice has obviously continued unabated for many years now, as the size of the plant grew to its present size, to include Mexicans and Guatemalans as well as the Russians and Eastern Europeans who were the mainstay of Agriprocessors's workforce since the beginning.

Postville also represents a variation on an old theme: the limits of the melting pot vs. the challenge presented by people who do not want to fit in except on their own terms. Given the Lubavitcher disdain for all things and persons non-Hasidic, your comparison, citizenjoe, is more perversely apposite than you know.

This back-story here has not been touched (yet) either here at AlterNet or elsewhere.
The must-read is Postville: A Clash of Cultures in Heartland America by Stephen B. Bloom (Harcourt 2000.)

» RE: Postville: Backstory Posted by: Joshua Holland
» RE: Postville: Backstory Posted by: jleman
» RE: Postville: Backstory Posted by: lefty010
» RE: Postville: Backstory Posted by: Lauren
Anecdotal evidence . . .
Posted by: Scientz on May 21, 2008 6:22 AM   
Current rating: 5    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
After having read the above comments on the UK (one complained that the population of London is now not more than 50% English; another poster called him/her racist; s/he responded "am not"; the other poster replied "are too") I felt the need to share an anecdote about Toronto that arose from a conversation I had yesterday with a school colleague.

The colleague in question is a young black woman, intellectually gifted, valedictorian of her high school, middle-to-upper-middle class upbringing. I had first met her in a first-year political science class, and it was clear she was headed to a large firm on Bay Street (the Canadian version of Wall Street).

We've had several classes together over the past few years, and we routinely have conversations about each other's respective progress through the school system, grades, et cetera.

Upon running into her yesterday, she confessed that while she was finishing her undergrad in a mere three years, she had also given up her dream of becoming a Bay Street lawyer for a career working in social justice and neighborhood housing.

She related the following quote: "I'll tell you though, working with the community out in Rexdale (imagine a Brownsville, Brooklyn to downtown Toronto's Manhattan) has taught me lessons in racial tolerance that I'd never thought I'd have to learn. I talk to fifty and sixty year old Anglo-Saxons who've lived there since it was a village, and they still blame the crime and the change in the neighborhood demographic on the Italians and Portuguese who arrived in the 60s. The thing is though, I talk to Italians and Portuguese who blame the (Caribbean) blacks, and blacks who blame the Chinese and Tamils."

Toronto is the most multicultural city on the planet, and yet, here was unavoidable anecdotal evidence of the difficulty this diversity sometimes has in getting along with one another.

Perhaps we all have a little knee-jerk racist in us--it only bubbles to the surface easier in some than others.

I'm not sure there are easy answers to this "problem".

» Far more than anecdotal ! Posted by: Last Chance
» Does Canada . . . Posted by: Scientz
» RE: Does Canada . . . Posted by: Last Chance
40 years
Posted by: wittler youth on May 21, 2008 6:39 AM   
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why is this a issue now? why not 1970/80/90? or is it G.W.s hate for hard working people that gits under his skin..?..hey lets all go back to share cropping!!oh better yet!..may be monsanto will develop a self picking crop.

» RE: 40 years "Harvest Of Shame" Posted by: Last Chance
» RE: 40 years "Harvest Of Shame" Posted by: countingdaisies
Iowans react to Postville raid
Posted by: sausage on May 21, 2008 6:45 AM   
Current rating: 2    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
And these are not the most extreme!
"Take all of these ILLEGAL ALIENS out of their comfy camp and put them behind bars with no cots and one meal a day, then ship them, their family and all who aided and abetted them during their criminal stay here back to wherever they came from. That includes those who gave money to Chet (you big lug) and his lugnuts! Send them all packing outside the US!" ML144

"Agriporcessors who allegedly knew these persons were illegal should pay for the illegals' legal bills. It's important that those who stole ID's are imprisoned before deportation. After their families including anchor babies are expelled, all properties of the illegals should be confiscated.

"Of course, the executivies of Agriprocessors who knowingly aided and abetted the breaking of federal laws should also be imprisoned after their properties are confiscated.

"The church who knowingly got involved in a political situation - property gone and priest arrested. Any landlords who rented to someone they knew to be illegal, property confiscated and them arrested. Same with realtors.

"Does it sound like I am fed up? I think voters nationwide are tired of the games and the lies. Ignore us at your peril."
missdorothy

"These ILLEGALS are more than welcome to take their children with them back home. Enough money is being spent to deport them, I don't want to foot the bills for the children until they're 18." IowaNinersFan

"what really should be done is added border security. I'm talking more guards, land mines, machine gun nests, electrical fences, you name it-basically turn the border into a no-man's land. BUT that will never be a reality unfortunately because so many people take the side of criminals today" Avalanche719

The Des Moines Register.com

What's really amazing about this random sampling of posts is the commenters above, and their likeminded ilk, monopolize The Register discussion board. I know, I regularly read and post at The Register myself. But even though I'm disabled and retired, I have to walk away from the computer once in a while. It, however, seems that the reactionary right, like rust, never sleeps.

Such Attitudes,as the above, are a poison crippling this country, much to our own peril. The United States and its citizens is in all probability the most hated nation in the world.

Last March I was in Monterrey, Mexico enjoying a beer at the Cuauhtemoc Moctezuma Brewery, practicing my baby Spanish on a gentleman, his wife and sister-in-law, and he asked me if I were a Canadian? It didn't dawn on me until later why the fellow thought I was Canadian. Perhaps the fellow knew more English than he was letting on? Then again, more of them in the wider world can read and speak English than we Americans can read, let alone speak any other language outside our bastardized dialect.

Our willful American ignornace of the outside world is quickly hardening into stupidity; the actions of the stupid often result in injury to himself and others.

» Don't play dumb ! Posted by: Last Chance
» Why? Because your are? Posted by: sausage
» Clueless Posted by: Last Chance
» here we go again..... Posted by: pfeifer999
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» Take it up with the Pope! Posted by: sausage
» Again! Intelligent Discussion. Posted by: Dakota64
» Where did you find this? Posted by: sausage
» Mmmmhmmm Posted by: lefty010
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Illegal aliens are criminals
Posted by: HBoyer on May 21, 2008 7:41 AM   
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They steal billions of dollars from workers
and tax payers.

Free Medical, welfare, reduce wages, carry diseases, criminal activity, free schooling for their children, most do not have high school diplomas.

Deport them and prosecute the employers to the limit.

If we fail to do this, we will become a 3rd world country like the ones the illegal Aliens came from.

An observation
Posted by: Joshua Holland on May 21, 2008 7:50 AM   
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I'm not saying it's always the case, but it seems to me that many immigration restrictionists seem to have a binary view: we're either "enforcing the laws" or not, and any other considerations are irrelevant. As long as immigrants are being arrested, many seem unconcerned that the system is left intact, or that the overall number or flow of new immigrants remains constant.

Many appear to be content with any law-enforcement policy that lends the appearance of addressing the situation. Never mind if it's ineffective, disproportionate, if human rights or domestic U.S. law is violated, if huge amounts of money are wasted, etc. As long as there's a good show that makes it appear that the government is "getting touch on illegals" then that;s all that matters.

Again, not saying this is always the case, but I see a lot of it in the comments. If I were an immigration restrictionist and I truly wanted to see their numbers reduced, I would look at the current enforcement model used in the U.S. as a hopeless policy for achieving my goals.

» RE: An observation Posted by: Lauren
» RE: An observation Posted by: countingdaisies
Immigrant detention centers
Posted by: Grandma Crabby on May 21, 2008 7:58 AM   
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I saw a story on 60 Minutes last Sunday about immigrants, legal and illegal, being housed in "detention centers".

The story was not very good...it focused on how people do not get good medical care in these detention facilities and some die. They never answered the question of why all these people were in such a detention center in the first place. These were not necessarily illegals, one was coming here from Hatti after being granted political asylum but as soon as he got off the plane he was arrested and put in a detention center then died due to lack of medical care.

The story barely touched on the fact that these detention centers were a "secret prison system few Americans knew anything about."

Regardless of your position on immigration, legal and illegal, this seemed way off base.

Are these the detention centers built by Halliburton? How long are people kept there?

America has really sunk if a man granted political asylum is arrested as soon as he steps off the plane then thrown in a huge prison where he dies within a week due to neglect.


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