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Enforcement on Steroids: Homeland Security's Emerging Immigration Police State (Part I)

By Joshua Holland, AlterNet. Posted May 21, 2008.


Forced drugging. Abuse. Death. That's what workplace-based immigration enforcement without deeper reform looks like.

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Last week, hundreds of Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) agents, flanked by helicopters, a trail of SUVs and a convoy of buses, descended on the tiny town of Postville, Iowa. They set up a perimeter around the 60-acre kosher meat-processing plant operated by the global giant Agriprocessors, Inc. and conducted the largest workplace raid in U.S. history. Around 400 people were arrested -- most from Mexico, Eastern Europe and Guatemala -- representing 40 percent of the plant's workers and 17 percent of the town's population. Warrants for another 300 were issued.

Some would call it a victory for law and order. But a closer look at the showy example of "getting tough on illegals" offers some insight into what immigration restrictionists are really asking for when they call for more immigration enforcement.

During a similar sweep last year, ICE generated some bad publicity when reporters found that a number of young children had been left unattended when their parents were arrested. So 56 of those arrested last week -- mostly mothers of small kids -- were released on "humanitarian grounds." Nonetheless, a federal lawsuit filed on behalf of dozens of the Postville detainees "noted that a number of immigrant workers' children have been stranded with baby sitters and other caretakers as a result of the raid."

The suit charges that some of the detained workers are victims of crimes by Agriprocessors, Inc., which may entitle them to a visa, and accuses the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) of arbitrary and indefinite detention and violating the workers' constitutional rights.

According to the Associated Press, an attorney who interviewed some of those swept up in the raid said that the company itself "obtained false identification for immigrant workers." But in the overwhelming majority of these raids -- 98 percent, according to the Washington Post -- the only people to pay any penalty are poor people trying to earn a substandard wage working in America's growing unregulated economy.

Meanwhile, ICE charged many of the detained with "identity theft" for those faked papers, effectively giving immigration hard-liners what Congress hasn't granted them through the legislative process: serious criminal charges for what have always been misdemeanor immigration violations at most.

In this case, as in many others like it, many of the workers appear to have been seriously exploited. The AP reported that the plant's management "improperly withheld money from employees' paychecks for 'immigration fees,' didn't allow workers to use the restroom during 10-hour shifts, physically abused workers and didn't compensate them for overtime work."

According to MSNBC, workers at the plant were routinely started at $5 per hour for their first three or four months on the job and then raised to $6, still well below Iowa's minimum wage of $7.25.

Iowa Labor Commissioner David Neil confirmed to the Des Moines Register that Agriprocessors was being investigated by the state on suspicion of wage violations, paying people off the books and hiring underage workers. A copy of the federal warrant obtained by the Register described an incident in which "a supervisor covered the eyes of an employee with duct tape and struck him with a meat hook."

It's unclear what the raids' impact will be on the ongoing investigations into the company's workplace violations. With hundreds of workers -- and potential witnesses -- carted away, Jill Cashen, a spokesperson for the United Food and Commercial Workers (UFCW), asked: "how can justice ever be served on these exploitation issues?"

Agriprocessor's management must have been pleased with the timing of the raid. Not only did it put at least a crimp in the ongoing investigations of serious allegations of abuse by the company, it also derailed an effort by UFCW to organize the plants' workers and give them a shot at bargaining with management for better working conditions.


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Family Values, Indeed!
Posted by: AlexLawyer on May 21, 2008 12:36 AM   
Current rating: 4    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
This article illuminates yet another facet of the pervasive, egregious mean-spiritedness of the political far right. Denial of healthcare to children, use of cluster bombs and landmines in civilian areas, wholesale slaughter of innocents in Iraq and Afghanistan, prosecution of political enemies on trumped-up charges, silencing of scientists and whistleblowers, abuse of National Security Letters and surveillance programs, harrassment of abortion providers, gay-bashing, ad nauseam. Since the dominance of American politics by evangelical Christians we have become callous, greedy, violent and arrogant. It is time that Americans reasserted their values and put paid to this appalling moral decline masquerading as righteousness and patriotism.

» one word: Relax! Posted by: TheJibreelaMonsters
» RE: one word: Relax! Posted by: abbadon2007
» RE: one word: Relax! Posted by: abbadon2007
» RE: Family Values, Indeed! Posted by: dsmidiman
» RE: Family Values, Indeed! Posted by: dsmidiman
simplicity
Posted by: richholland on May 21, 2008 1:50 AM   
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charge the company for the difference between the tradeunion required salary and actual paid salary and an extra fine of 100%.
Thats the way western europe handels it.

» RE: simplicity Posted by: BCcovers
The UK is Overrun By Immigrants - Mass Immigration Is Unofficial Government Policy
Posted by: opmoc on May 21, 2008 3:11 AM   
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The culture of entire Towns and Cities has been completely changed.

More than 50% of the population of London is not of English origin.

Anyone who dares to challenge this policy is branded racist.

England is already far too overpopulated - but the Government wants us swamped with cheap labour.

I'm not in the slightest bit racist - and my friends represent a fair cross section of the local population - ie their ethnic origins are from all over the World.

But this policy is just complete lunacy.

Much of the immigration is legal - due to Eastern Europe joining the EU...

But it is just becoming completely ridiculous.

The situation is that as the rest of the World becomes poorer and poorer - due to overpopulation and Western exploitation the desire to move to a country perceived as being rich is overwhelming.

The process can only be halted, by ending the exploitation of the poor and encouraging education, development and birth control.

Otherwise current "rich" European and American culture will simply be overrun by weight of numbers.

» RE: You have no idea Posted by: marchpet
» RE: You have no idea Posted by: marchpet
» RE: please don't straw man me Posted by: marchpet
» Not only Muslims Posted by: countingdaisies
» Lies, damned lies and statistics Posted by: John Annis
» RE: it's worse than you think Posted by: countingdaisies
» It's history--get over it! Posted by: ikonoklast
» Great Post Thank You nm Posted by: opmoc
America at its worst
Posted by: marchpet on May 21, 2008 3:22 AM   
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Just wait for a whole slew of immigrant hating racist trolls to emerge on this comments page in the next few hours. No doubt some of the same people who voted for Hillary Clinton in W. Virginia and Kentucky.

» RE: America at its worst Posted by: richholland
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» RE: America at its worst Posted by: Dakota64
» I love East Boston Posted by: TheJibreelaMonsters
» RE: America at its worst Posted by: froghat
» RE: America at its worst Posted by: Walks-in-Storms
» RE: America at its worst Posted by: Doubtom
Simplicity
Posted by: Baal_Labs on May 21, 2008 4:09 AM   
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Plus mandatory one day in jail for the CEO for each illegal worker. (For the CEO, not the flunky hiring manager.) (Doubled for each succeeding violation.) (And the day in jail cascades through any contract agencies, so the CEO and owners of agencies cannot insulate themselves.)

» RE: Simplicity Posted by: richholland
» 84gawker Posted by: jbwestwood
I think I should sign up for a career in law enforcement
Posted by: blogbooks on May 21, 2008 4:24 AM   
Current rating: 2    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
I think that would really frustrate you people.

Since, you know, you hate when the laws of the United States are enforced, our borders secured, and our sovereignty maintained.

Just what is your agenda anyway?

RE: false dichotomies
Posted by: Joshua Holland on May 21, 2008 5:35 AM   
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On the other side you have folks like Joshua Holland, who only want to punish the corporations that hire and abuse the immigrants.

Other readers should know that this doesn't accurately reflect my approach.

» RE: clarification Posted by: countingdaisies
RE: false dichotomies
Posted by: Lauren on May 21, 2008 10:52 AM   
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On the other hand you have bloggers like me who say they will take a leadership role and then get the full attention of a new Homeland Insecurity department hot to find a terrorist to torture.

Maybe you missed it when I mentioned a federal agent checked me out (buying beer, just thinking about it makes me want to start drinking beer, too early in the day so we will make this quick) at the local drug store.

Since I blog lots of people check me out, but his guy was different. His look told me he wanted to kill me. In less than a week, if I remember correctly - check my previous comments, that's why I blog, the ICE roundups started. The license on his car said ICE MAN. His look told me he was a murderer.

Josh, thanks for the story. I look forward to tomorrow's installment. Good job!

RE: false dichotomies
Posted by: Old Skeptic on May 21, 2008 12:31 PM   
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I agree. Let's have both: enforce the law and also treat people awaiting deportation in a humane manner.

I also agree that we should punish those who hire illegal aliens. Start with some significant fines and if the violation recurs, some jail time for the CEOs.

The availability of a method for checking the validity of worker's IDs is also necessary. Only someone who has never known anyone who was the victim of identity theft would consider it a "victimless crime". Illegal aliens who steal Americans' IDs should go to jail, like any other crook.

» RE: false dichotomies Posted by: froghat
ICE the American Gestapo
Posted by: citizenjoe on May 21, 2008 4:56 AM   
Current rating: 4    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
Immigrants are in many ways (not all) being treated like Jews in Germany under the Nazis in the 1930's (before the "final solution" for inferiors)-- arrested by the special police and sent away to camps without any rights at all. Immigrants and others are being change with special crimes-- "identity theft". There are two important but not obvious things to notice here"|:
1) The American state is treating foreigners as inferior human beings (like the Jews)-- not given basic human rights. This is American supremacism. National supremacism is a central element of fascism, as are special police and persecution under arbitrary laws.

2) The arbitrary application of draconian laws to peaceful members of our society who are foreigners applies as well to all citizens-- how are these police to know who is and who is not a citizen until after they have been thrown into camps without council or rights? - So this can happen to anyone that the American Gestapo is to told to capture, for any reason whatever-- don't like their looks, don't like their politics, for example.

Fascism friends, fascism.

» An overreach, even for you Posted by: brunowe
» Yes you are Posted by: brunowe
» I thought you were a bright guy Posted by: citizenjoe
» Well put! Posted by: citizenjoe
» So, I am anti Semitic? Posted by: citizenjoe
» RE: uh, maybe not Posted by: Lauren
» RE: uh, maybe not Posted by: froghat
» RE: ICE the American Gestapo Posted by: desidid
» But they're tryin' Posted by: Joshua Holland
» RE: But they're tryin' Posted by: desidid
Intelligent Discussion
Posted by: Dakota64 on May 21, 2008 5:02 AM   
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Name calling is not productive in an intelligent exchange of ideas or beliefs. My family came from England in 1931.They had the whole Ellis Island experience. Being law abiding citizens they went through the proper process and became US Citizens. We still have a bakery in East Boston, Massachusetts.
Allowing people Yes, Illegal Aliens, from any nationality to come here use our Citizen Services without paying into the system unless they have stolen or false identities is wrong. The only tax that is legitimately paid is the sales taxes that exist in each state. These workers are hired for one simple reason. They cost less to employers! Yes, they are hard working people. Yes, the overwhelming majority are good people and only want to improve the lives of their families. Yes, these employers shoul be heavily sanctioned. Sadly, they have no right to come here and undercut wages and put American Citizens out of work. They also do not have the right to jump ahead of all those who apply legally for citizenship. For those who say " They do jobs Americans won't do. " That's right they do. Because employers are not offering a reasonable wage to an American Citizen.It is called " The American Dream." No dream can flourish unless it is sought after with integrity. As for the children, I agree it is sad and should be handled better. But, it should be handled. To use your logic a woman could hop the fence in your back yard and give birth. There by making you reasponsible for the care of the child for the rest of his or her life. When Pro-Illegal people start doing this, I will rethink my logic.

We Need More Work Visas
Posted by: Mexitli on May 21, 2008 5:17 AM   
Current rating: 2    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
People come "illegally" because they have no choice.

Too many workers chasing too few visas.

The U.S. needs the workers.

Mexico and Centram countries has them.

But the U.S. immigration policies are stuck in the 40's.

Google this:
Jason Riley "Let Them In" The Case For Open Borders

There simply arent enough LEGAL ways for these workers to immigrate so that they can work legally.

» RE: We Need More Work Visas Posted by: Joshua Holland
» Something has to happen Posted by: Mexitli
» RE: Something has to happen Posted by: Joshua Holland
» Correct, but Posted by: citizenjoe
» Same Boat. Posted by: Dakota64
» RE: We Need More Work Visas: No choice? Posted by: Joshua Holland
Accurate Information
Posted by: Dakota64 on May 21, 2008 5:59 AM   
Current rating: 5    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
Please show me the accurate studies that perpetuate this falsehood of needing foreign workers in the US. The Government studies are tainted by Big Business. Studies by Big Business are tainted by their want of low wage workers. I don't show up in the manipulated unemployment numbers because I refuse unemployment compensation. Not to mention those who when their unemployment runs out their statistic disappears even if still unemployed. I have no agenda here. I am an unemployed Heavy Equipment Mechanic. I have applied to almost every company in a sixty mile radius of Revere, Ma. I have seen for myself who is being employed in my stead. I have been told that I can have a job but at a ridiculously low rate of pay. I have been told that I need to speak or at least understand spanish to get hired. Maybe I am the only one in the country facing this problem and I should shut up. Maybe the US Government or Big Business never lies about the information they compile. WMD's in Iraq. Enron. I'm just say'in.

» RE: Accurate Information Posted by: Last Chance
» RE: Accurate Information Posted by: Lauren
» RE: Accurate Information Posted by: countingdaisies
» RE: Accurate Information Posted by: froghat
Economic Refugees!
Posted by: Cybershaman on May 21, 2008 6:06 AM   
Current rating: 5    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
Why not work to help these countries build up an economic infrastructure comparable to ours so their people are not impelled to come here looking for work? And I'm not talking about sweat shops that only exploit their labor and don't pay them enough to actually improve their lives. Why spend billions of dollars on walls and checkpoints and draconian security measures when we could use that same money to build roads and dams and bridges and utility lines and... ???
Halliburton has already built 'tent prisons' in Texas to hold 12 million people. Like the above poster said, it won't be Jews this time but Mexicans! These camps will become overcrowded and eventually we will be spending more money on healthcare for these people than we want to and then we will stop and disease will spread and we'll have to do something drastic and...
See, that's the problem, once you get this train moving down the track it's hard to control where it's heading. Because we rely on stereotypes to understand what happened in Germany we run the risk of creating the same phenomena without realizing it. They used the issue of 'illegal immigrants' to label the Roma and the Jews as 'criminals' just as we are doing.
With a twelve year wait for a visa, the legitimate way to enter this country is a cruel joke ... especially if you're not white! Stop demonizing these people and realize that we have to solve this problem in a respectful manner. When you base your solutions on a general contempt of a population, nothing good can come out of it.

» The effects will be marginal Posted by: Mexitli
» RE: The effects will be marginal Posted by: Cybershaman
» RE: conomic Refugees! Posted by: Old Skeptic
» RE: conomic Refugees! Posted by: froghat
Postville: Backstory
Posted by: picabia on May 21, 2008 6:13 AM   
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This situation at the kosher meatpacking plant in Postville, IA has been a catastrophe in the making for many years. It is not simply another corporate employer preying on undocumented workers who are ultimately pawned in a high-visibility raid by ICE agents.

Postville represents a profound cultural collision between the Chabad Hasidim from Crown Heights in Brooklyn, who acquired the plant in the late 1980's, and the gentile community in which it is located. The practice of facilitating "documentation" was, from the beginning, a routine part of the process of acquiring (grossly underpaid) workers for the slaughterhouse floor. The practice has obviously continued unabated for many years now, as the size of the plant grew to its present size, to include Mexicans and Guatemalans as well as the Russians and Eastern Europeans who were the mainstay of Agriprocessors's workforce since the beginning.

Postville also represents a variation on an old theme: the limits of the melting pot vs. the challenge presented by people who do not want to fit in except on their own terms. Given the Lubavitcher disdain for all things and persons non-Hasidic, your comparison, citizenjoe, is more perversely apposite than you know.

This back-story here has not been touched (yet) either here at AlterNet or elsewhere.
The must-read is Postville: A Clash of Cultures in Heartland America by Stephen B. Bloom (Harcourt 2000.)

» RE: Postville: Backstory Posted by: Joshua Holland
» RE: Postville: Backstory Posted by: jleman
» RE: Postville: Backstory Posted by: lefty010
» RE: Postville: Backstory Posted by: Lauren
Anecdotal evidence . . .
Posted by: Scientz on May 21, 2008 6:22 AM   
Current rating: 5    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
After having read the above comments on the UK (one complained that the population of London is now not more than 50% English; another poster called him/her racist; s/he responded "am not"; the other poster replied "are too") I felt the need to share an anecdote about Toronto that arose from a conversation I had yesterday with a school colleague.

The colleague in question is a young black woman, intellectually gifted, valedictorian of her high school, middle-to-upper-middle class upbringing. I had first met her in a first-year political science class, and it was clear she was headed to a large firm on Bay Street (the Canadian version of Wall Street).

We've had several classes together over the past few years, and we routinely have conversations about each other's respective progress through the school system, grades, et cetera.

Upon running into her yesterday, she confessed that while she was finishing her undergrad in a mere three years, she had also given up her dream of becoming a Bay Street lawyer for a career working in social justice and neighborhood housing.

She related the following quote: "I'll tell you though, working with the community out in Rexdale (imagine a Brownsville, Brooklyn to downtown Toronto's Manhattan) has taught me lessons in racial tolerance that I'd never thought I'd have to learn. I talk to fifty and sixty year old Anglo-Saxons who've lived there since it was a village, and they still blame the crime and the change in the neighborhood demographic on the Italians and Portuguese who arrived in the 60s. The thing is though, I talk to Italians and Portuguese who blame the (Caribbean) blacks, and blacks who blame the Chinese and Tamils."

Toronto is the most multicultural city on the planet, and yet, here was unavoidable anecdotal evidence of the difficulty this diversity sometimes has in getting along with one another.

Perhaps we all have a little knee-jerk racist in us--it only bubbles to the surface easier in some than others.

I'm not sure there are easy answers to this "problem".

» Far more than anecdotal ! Posted by: Last Chance
» Does Canada . . . Posted by: Scientz
» RE: Does Canada . . . Posted by: Last Chance
40 years
Posted by: wittler youth on May 21, 2008 6:39 AM   
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why is this a issue now? why not 1970/80/90? or is it G.W.s hate for hard working people that gits under his skin..?..hey lets all go back to share cropping!!oh better yet!..may be monsanto will develop a self picking crop.

» RE: 40 years "Harvest Of Shame" Posted by: Last Chance
» RE: 40 years "Harvest Of Shame" Posted by: countingdaisies
Iowans react to Postville raid
Posted by: sausage on May 21, 2008 6:45 AM   
Current rating: 2    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
And these are not the most extreme!
"Take all of these ILLEGAL ALIENS out of their comfy camp and put them behind bars with no cots and one meal a day, then ship them, their family and all who aided and abetted them during their criminal stay here back to wherever they came from. That includes those who gave money to Chet (you big lug) and his lugnuts! Send them all packing outside the US!" ML144

"Agriporcessors who allegedly knew these persons were illegal should pay for the illegals' legal bills. It's important that those who stole ID's are imprisoned before deportation. After their families including anchor babies are expelled, all properties of the illegals should be confiscated.

"Of course, the executivies of Agriprocessors who knowingly aided and abetted the breaking of federal laws should also be imprisoned after their properties are confiscated.

"The church who knowingly got involved in a political situation - property gone and priest arrested. Any landlords who rented to someone they knew to be illegal, property confiscated and them arrested. Same with realtors.

"Does it sound like I am fed up? I think voters nationwide are tired of the games and the lies. Ignore us at your peril."
missdorothy

"These ILLEGALS are more than welcome to take their children with them back home. Enough money is being spent to deport them, I don't want to foot the bills for the children until they're 18." IowaNinersFan

"what really should be done is added border security. I'm talking more guards, land mines, machine gun nests, electrical fences, you name it-basically turn the border into a no-man's land. BUT that will never be a reality unfortunately because so many people take the side of criminals today" Avalanche719

The Des Moines Register.com

What's really amazing about this random sampling of posts is the commenters above, and their likeminded ilk, monopolize The Register discussion board. I know, I regularly read and post at The Register myself. But even though I'm disabled and retired, I have to walk away from the computer once in a while. It, however, seems that the reactionary right, like rust, never sleeps.

Such Attitudes,as the above, are a poison crippling this country, much to our own peril. The United States and its citizens is in all probability the most hated nation in the world.

Last March I was in Monterrey, Mexico enjoying a beer at the Cuauhtemoc Moctezuma Brewery, practicing my baby Spanish on a gentleman, his wife and sister-in-law, and he asked me if I were a Canadian? It didn't dawn on me until later why the fellow thought I was Canadian. Perhaps the fellow knew more English than he was letting on? Then again, more of them in the wider world can read and speak English than we Americans can read, let alone speak any other language outside our bastardized dialect.

Our willful American ignornace of the outside world is quickly hardening into stupidity; the actions of the stupid often result in injury to himself and others.

» Don't play dumb ! Posted by: Last Chance
» Why? Because your are? Posted by: sausage
» Clueless Posted by: Last Chance
» RE: here we go again..... Posted by: sausage
» Take it up with the Pope! Posted by: sausage
» Again! Intelligent Discussion. Posted by: Dakota64
» Where did you find this? Posted by: sausage
» Mmmmhmmm Posted by: lefty010
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Illegal aliens are criminals
Posted by: HBoyer on May 21, 2008 7:41 AM   
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They steal billions of dollars from workers
and tax payers.

Free Medical, welfare, reduce wages, carry diseases, criminal activity, free schooling for their children, most do not have high school diplomas.

Deport them and prosecute the employers to the limit.

If we fail to do this, we will become a 3rd world country like the ones the illegal Aliens came from.

An observation
Posted by: Joshua Holland on May 21, 2008 7:50 AM   
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I'm not saying it's always the case, but it seems to me that many immigration restrictionists seem to have a binary view: we're either "enforcing the laws" or not, and any other considerations are irrelevant. As long as immigrants are being arrested, many seem unconcerned that the system is left intact, or that the overall number or flow of new immigrants remains constant.

Many appear to be content with any law-enforcement policy that lends the appearance of addressing the situation. Never mind if it's ineffective, disproportionate, if human rights or domestic U.S. law is violated, if huge amounts of money are wasted, etc. As long as there's a good show that makes it appear that the government is "getting touch on illegals" then that;s all that matters.

Again, not saying this is always the case, but I see a lot of it in the comments. If I were an immigration restrictionist and I truly wanted to see their numbers reduced, I would look at the current enforcement model used in the U.S. as a hopeless policy for achieving my goals.

» RE: An observation Posted by: Lauren
» RE: An observation Posted by: countingdaisies
Immigrant detention centers
Posted by: Grandma Crabby on May 21, 2008 7:58 AM   
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I saw a story on 60 Minutes last Sunday about immigrants, legal and illegal, being housed in "detention centers".

The story was not very good...it focused on how people do not get good medical care in these detention facilities and some die. They never answered the question of why all these people were in such a detention center in the first place. These were not necessarily illegals, one was coming here from Hatti after being granted political asylum but as soon as he got off the plane he was arrested and put in a detention center then died due to lack of medical care.

The story barely touched on the fact that these detention centers were a "secret prison system few Americans knew anything about."

Regardless of your position on immigration, legal and illegal, this seemed way off base.

Are these the detention centers built by Halliburton? How long are people kept there?

America has really sunk if a man granted political asylum is arrested as soon as he steps off the plane then thrown in a huge prison where he dies within a week due to neglect.


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» RE: Immigrant detention centers Posted by: nomomorons
» RE: Immigrant detention centers Posted by: Grandma Crabby
National Labor Board
Posted by: desidid on May 21, 2008 8:03 AM   
Current rating: 4    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
will act if the legal workers report them. I worked for Woody Stephens, famed for winning 5 consecutive Belmonts, when a Jamaican legal resident filed with the national labor board for workplace violations. The labor board sent letters to every listed employee from the previous 4 years. Mr. Stephens was fined 33,000 and had to turn it over to NLB for distribution. Mr. Stephens then went back to his employees several of which were Black, and had grown up in the Jim Crow south, and demanded his money be returned. Those who knew the law refused, the illiterate and cowtowed employees acquiesed. Mr. Stephens would later fire those who caved to his demands and soon his crew was made up of illegal immigrants. Everybody on the racetrack knew what had happened at that barn. Josh would have us believe that illegals will work in concert with legal citizens to end workplace violations. The truth is they will often come into those jobs fully aware of violations, ending any possibility for legal workers to collective bargain. I agree that the employers should be held accountable for every violation including distributing false identification. The reason they are not being charged and fined is because supporters of illegal immigrants continue to conflagate worker's rights with illegal immigrants. When one chooses to break the law (and working illegally breaks the law) they must be held as accountable as the person/s who hire them. In this country we have many a citizen mother who goes to work leaving their children alone because they are unable to afford child care, yet here is a population that can afford child care even under the most bleek conditions. I find that amazing to say the least. In the meantime, if the American mom were apprehended for some reason, her children would literally be stranded and alone, and DHS would take them from her.

I would love to read the flip-side of this story to find out how legal workers are treated and if they think their working conditions would improve if they weren't forced to work with illegal immigrants? I'm sure we will never know that side of the story because it conflicts with the purpose of these stories, to propagandize the pro-immigrant stance. But take it from someone who has worked with illegals they don't have a common interest in making the workplace better while there is a legal worker in sight. It is completely counter-productive to them having jobs in the first place. What would be the rational for one of these employers to hire illegals who worked with legal workers to improve working conditions? There isn't any, and no amount of sad stories will change that fact.

» RE: National Labor Board Posted by: Lauren
» RE: National Labor Board Posted by: desidid
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The followup to REX84 and martial law. Ollie North's old op
Posted by: Alex Hidell on May 21, 2008 8:29 AM   
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The original plans for martial law in the US were to have FEMA do the enforecment, but now the enforcement arm has been changed to ICE, Immigration and Customs Enforcement.

REX84 (Readiness Exercise 1984)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rex_84

These plans were always using immigrants as the front with the real goal being detention of political opposition, as during the Nixon era Huston Plan (Tom Huston of DOD in Nixon's White House drew up the plans).

Huston Plan
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Huston_Plan

God only knows and the brave only ask what plans are being or have been made by the Bush administration.

Just curious, but . . .
Posted by: Walks-in-Storms on May 21, 2008 8:34 AM   
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How many existing laws ought we ignore because those breaking them have children? Embezzlement? Bunco? Robbery? After all, the perpetrator can just say that he did it for his family - the kids - and he should have a flood of support from certain of us. How about rape? After all, the rapist can argue, he needed what he took - and he has kids that will be deprived of his parenting when he's arrested. Who's "mean-spirited" - the criminal or the cops (or citizen) who arrests him? Who was it that brought the "gestapo" tactics down upon us? Would raids like Postville be necessary, had there been no illegal immigration? Why aren't the people who profess to be so (transparently) incensed about this raid equally incensed about the raid on the Yearning for Zion Mormons in San Angelo, Texas? Did I say "transparent?" Yeah, I think I did.

» RE: Just curious, but . . . Posted by: Joshua Holland
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Criminal Reporting
Posted by: PostvilleGuy on May 21, 2008 8:49 AM   
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It looks like this writer joins the masses of reporters who are distorting and misrepresenting the Iowa raid.

The allegations are, surprisingly, ALLEGATIONS. Saying that AP reported that the company withheld money, or didn't allow employees to use the bathroom is LIBEL. They may have reported this as allegations, but I don't believe AP reported this as fact. None of these media reporters have done a shred of investigative, or even honest, journalism.

They prefer copy/pasting from government documents, or other allegations. None of them took a real hard look at any of these allegations. The affidavit is full of self-contradictions, hearsay, and shocking ignorance of a production environment.

Joshua Holland - you have misrepresented the facts and presumed guilt... way to go journalism!

Alternet also deleted a comment by "zooeyhall"
Posted by: thoughtcriminal on May 21, 2008 8:52 AM   
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That said simply that Alternet was serving the interests of the Chamber of Commerce, not the U.S. public.

Unbelievable. Deleting comments like crazy - and this is "indymedia"? This is a bad joke.

» It's Still 1-1 Posted by: opmoc
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Policy AGAINST the people
Posted by: lefty010 on May 21, 2008 9:07 AM   
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I've tried to read most of the comments, but they are getting posted so quickly that it is hard to keep up with, so I hope I'm not repeating what has already been said.

I have to say the it is very difficult to digest the brutality of the comments that have been posted here. I don't know how many of you have seen the movie or read the book "Fast Food Nation" but all of the Americans who think being an "illegal" is some fabulous, wonder-filled position to be in, you are woefully wrong. I know how pointless it is to appeal to people's emotions on these comment pages (although this is a very emotional subject) but these are HUMAN BEINGS.

Nobody would willing endure what many of the "illegals" suffer. These men and women are sons, daughters, wives, husbands, brothers and sister, mothers and fathers.They deserve consideration for that.

The anger toward "illegals" is misdirected. Focus that anger toward the policy makers and global organizations THAT CAUSE THE PROBLEM. "Illegals" are certainly not the genesis of the immigration problem. To continue to vilify them for the situation with the hopes that such hatred will somehow solve the problem is an exercise in futility.

Do some research and start demanding that U.S. policy makers stop supporting policy that CAUSES "illegal" immigration.

"Illegals" suffer just as much as Americans (maybe in different ways and more so)from the GLOBAL policy that fosters illegal immigration. Our country SUPPORTS such POLICY.

Maybe it would be helpful for all parties concerned to redirect all of the anger into more productive directions.

» RE: Policy AGAINST the people Posted by: penobscotdziekuje@yahoo.com
Victims of corporatocracy beating up on each other
Posted by: CJC on May 21, 2008 9:14 AM   
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The real culprits are the big corporations. They'd rather hire illegal aliens who won't complain because they can't and in any case may feel that they're better off than where they came from.

The Feds have a raid, take the illegals away, lock them up (at great public expense), deport them, whatever. Then after a while the corporation hires more illegals.

Meanwhile unions have been greatly weakened over the years and most workers have no one to support their interests. Anyone with better choices won't work for poor wages and no benefits. Others who feel resentful because good jobs are scarce get angry and take their hostility out on the illegal aliens.

Thus is brewed a toxic xenophobia. Working people suffer and the corporations have huge profits and support the politicians with big donations and the situation gets worse and worse. While those on the lower end of the socio-economic heap beat up on one another the rich are getting richer.

Eventually, the system will collapse or enough Americans will understand what's going on and insist on changes that will give more rights and more income to those in the lower half of the income distribution. We have the most lopsided income distribution of any industrialized country. This is obviously untenable. The illegal aliens are not a cause of these problems but also victims of it.

So now that I've actually read the story...
Posted by: blogbooks on May 21, 2008 9:38 AM   
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...I'll say it's well cited and calls attention to human rights issues. The problem is that in America these days you can't discuss anything revolving around immigration (even legal immigration) without people bringing up illegal immigration in an emotionally and racially charged manner.

This is not a topic most Americans can discuss rationally at this point. It is a hot button topic and people are very much divided one way or the other.

I think that plays in favor of the elites and stops any sort of real reform from happening. It has become an issue like gun control, abortion, etc. Americans are at an impasse and that means the status quo will continue unmolested.

What do you think?
Posted by: lefty010 on May 21, 2008 9:59 AM   
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Joshua,

You said in the comments (and I can't find it now) that you think that this type of immigration comes in waves and that eventually people may get homesick or find opportunity in their homeland and return.

I would agree that returning home may have been a previous trend, but do you think the same still holds true now that corporate criminals--who now operate at a global level--may have permanently removed opportunities that would have otherwise existed in peoples' home countries?

It's very complicated because as I'm typing this I am thinking about how the American worker has also been seriously harmed by globalization. If Americans are feeling the pinch (punch)then what real opportunities are there for people who barely had an existence before globalization?

» RE: What do you think? Posted by: Joshua Holland
» There is an answer - Posted by: Last Chance
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A Nation With No Borders is Not a Nation At All
Posted by: TheJibreelaMonsters on May 21, 2008 10:34 AM   
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Now back to the task at hand. The kiddies who are no way affected by illegal immigration like I am because I have only a high school education and I'm taking jobs at a lower wage. Now the Cape Cod Business are looking for summer help and they want the "visa" help however I know there is abunch of Roxbury/Mattapan/East Boston youth who would love to work and make some money out on the Cape however gwad forbid we employ some city kids or college kids because we might have to pay them 8,9,10 bucks an hour and they will want there half in hour break intilled by law...

Like I said I could rant on however why bother. The "open border" kids minds are being numb from there College. They will learn the hard way with higher taxes and less services.

Immigration is a good thing - just not for dollars.
Posted by: non-person on May 21, 2008 10:37 AM   
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Essentially, we should end the whole practice of capital liberalization, such that it must be made difficult for corporations to move money out of countries without facing significant penalties.

We must emplace very high tariff boundaries to capital flows, in other words.

This will prevent U.S. manufacturers from outsourcing jobs to Mexico and China where labor is cheaper, because they would have to operate as a Mexican company to do so, and then they would be taxed and regulated by the Mexican government.

It would also prevent the flood of cheap U.S. subsidized corn imports into Mexico that has resulted in the northward flood of immigrants. Hey - I like these people, to tell you the truth. Anyone who can cross the Sonoran desert on foot - that's the kind of initiative and spirit that has made America great.

For a discussion of NAFTA and SPP and immigration, check out this: From NAFTA to the SPP: Here comes the Security and Prosperity Partnership, but—what security? whose prosperity?
Katherine Sciacchitano


Quote:

"Which is closer to your vision of North America?

Vision A: Three interdependent countries with vibrant social movements, respect for labor rights, and environmentally sustainable economies anchored in provision of social needs and respect for cultural autonomy?

Or Vision B: An unequal alliance dominated by the United States, complete with pumped up oil and gas production, increasing militarization, corporate transnational planning groups, and guest worker programs to ensure cheap, vulnerable labor?"

» Oh, that's too funny Posted by: Joshua Holland
Illegal immigration can be stopped overnight.
Posted by: ciccio on May 21, 2008 10:37 AM   
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The only reason there is illegal immigration is because there is a market for it. Employers want to hire workers for less money, lower benefits who work harder because they are scared of losing their jobs. All ICE has to do is go on their inspections, check the books and fine the companies the equivalent of what they paid in wages.No need to arrest or deport anyone. The company has 300 illegals, at minimum wages that is at least $4 million a year, just one hefty fine like that will stop it dead in it's tracks.

The Origins of World Government
Posted by: opmoc on May 21, 2008 10:45 AM   
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I believe we are already a long way down the path of total control by a very small very powerful elite.

Now who are these people - and where did they originate from?

Where are they now - and exactly what are they doing?

Will they succeed?

What will they do if they achieve their objectives?

Are such discussions allowed on Alternet?

Will Americans save us from them?

The World may not actually be as it appears, because the image projected is the image you are supposed to see.

Hitler would have loved this
Posted by: nomomorons on May 21, 2008 12:25 PM   
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To those of us who grew up with this country's pride in our basic sense of decency, often asserting that this great and wonderful country could not possibly spawn the ugly brutalities of Hitler's Germany, this is a most repugnant example of the increasingly fascistic turn of our Republic.

God help us.

Yesh, in Germany persecution
Posted by: citizenjoe on May 21, 2008 12:35 PM   
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of the non-German inferior even before the Final Solution was much worse than persecution of immigrants here today. But our treatment of the non-American inferior is far worse than Mussolini's treatment of the non Italian inferior in Italy until he came under Hitler's sway. So the USA is somewhere between the behavior of the Nazi and of the Italian Fascist governments. Hooray for America.

Corporate corruption and government complicity
Posted by: nomomorons on May 21, 2008 12:44 PM   
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I live near one such "detention" center in Williamson County, Texas--many more are in the works; it is a former prison, houses children (yes, this country imprisons children!), many of whom are actually born-citizens, and women are routinely sexually abused (and impregnated)by their guards in these hell-holes and--tada-- the corporate owners/operators are making a killing on each tender little body they abuse. (And sending lots of campaign cash to such elected officials as support this scheme!)

Our Congressman, John Carter, actually backed the conversion of this prison into the baby-jail that it is, in cooperation with the corporation raking in a killing on this outrageous, immoral operation. Check out the profits for Corrections Corporation of American (CCA),which currently has a totally incompetent director/attorney being considered for a Federal judgeship, courtesy of our current president. And maybe some help from Mr. Carter.)

Welcome to Bush's Brave New World of Corrupt Corporate Control!

Raise some hell over this, please!

Where Will the Escaping Americans Go?
Posted by: sofla100 on May 21, 2008 1:14 PM   
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Did anyone ever realize perhaps the "fence" on the border with Mexico may ultimately be needed to keep Americans in the USA? With the American economy deteriorating, jobs in the USA disappearing, the American dollar crumbling to dust, and it becoming increasing impossible even to buy gas in order to go to work, it is going to be Americans who want to leave America!

But, where will Americans go? Can we go to Germany, Canada, or Australia? Canada will be the easist to flee to, with the long border. Perhaps Canada will decide, however, to put troops and vigilantes on its border. Kind of like the USA does now with Mexico. Escaping Americans will have to go through the woods with no food or water and walk for days. Goons and RCMP police will shoot at them or arrest and depart them.

Americans even visiting France or Germany, will, of course, all need to be fingerprinted and photographed at the border. They will have to show proof that they intend to return to the USA by showing a return plane ticket. Some, who look suspicious (or are "dark skinned") will, of course, need to be interrogated in back rooms as they may be "terrorists," or worse, plan to stay in the country illegally and indefinetly.

Just wait for the "worm to turn" America. How you treat the people of the world now is how you will be treated.

Homeland sweet homeland
Posted by: chlamor on May 21, 2008 1:19 PM   
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First they came for...

And for dessert a little low-fat imperialism:

Consider.

Immigration is essentially driven by America's OWN grievously immoral, underhanded, fraudulent and criminal actions under a policy of neo-liberal exploitation that has occasioned massive theft, political intrigue and election-tampering, coups, propping-up of corrupt dictators and brutal autocrats, blackmail, assassinations and death-squads, institutionalized terrorism, IMF/WTO/World Bank-imposed privatization and 'restructuring' and subsidized agricultural exports that have displaced huge numbers of small farmers, 'drug-war' skullduggery and forced de-funding of critical social services and public infrastructure -- the concept of 'illegal immigration' falls-apart. It is actually economic and political self-defense.

Illegal immigration is a wedge issue primarily because most Americans are ignorant about, in denial, or unwilling to face the fact that America has taken outrageous advantage of and abused the basic civil and human rights of Latin American citizens in order to prop-up America's bloated standard of living and overextended debt. The principles of rule of law governing allowable and acceptable economic trade practices and respecting the sovereignty of foreign nations have been consistently violated by America's appeal to its imaginary sense of exceptionalism -- which constitutes a huge nationalistic blind spot.

Americans in general tend to be astonishingly uninformed and misinformed about genuine history and the real consequences of American foreign policy-- thanks in large part to its disingenuous mass media and the co-opted public education industry. For all the popular rhetoric about America's National pride, honor and sense of values, and championing the causes of freedom, peace and justice, to a very large extent the American public is clueless about how hypocritical and self-serving the US has been, and how complicit they are by not holding their leaders and policymakers accountable for America's devastating Imperialist pretensions.

A word about racism as relates...
Posted by: chlamor on May 21, 2008 1:24 PM   
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So many people don't seem to understand what racism even is. "Are you saying ________ is racist?" "Oh, no, I'd never say THAT." NONSENSE. Of course ________ is racist. And so is everyone else who can't see that it was the racism (and classism) killing NOLA residents more even than the flood, or who shies away from charging most of our leaders and our whole government, the entire system is racist to the core.

It's as if they think racism (or any of the other oppressions) is necessarily a CONSCIOUS construct: "I really don't like black people, immigrants etc. -- I think they're inferior, so let's not fund the levees and then someday they may die."

No, perhaps the worst, but certainly the most intransigent aspect of racism is the part based on SUBconscious or even UNconscious beliefs that there are people who simply don't count as much, for whatever reason. But the funny thing is, those people tend overwhelmingly to fall into the oppressed groups. "Oh, it's only black folk (so who cares?)," or "Oh, it's only poor folk (who are lazy and therefore deserve what they get) and old people (past their prime and useless) anyway."

The US is a nation born of genocide, suckled on slavery, and weaned on apartheid, and the weaning process has been largely confined to a bottle at board meetings.

And as someone else mentioned, maybe here, maybe elsewhere, the sin, in the eyes of the white and affluent, is not the racism itself, but being reminded of it.

To be fair, it is so deeply ingrained that most do not even realize it, and their indignation is quite sincere when they insist that they are not a bit racist.

The Death of the West
Posted by: SOWILO on May 21, 2008 1:38 PM   
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They're making the last film
they say it's the best
And we all helped make it
It's called the Death of the West

the kids from Fame will all be there
Free cocacola for you!
And all the monkeys from the zoo
Will they be extras too?

They're making the last film
they say it's the best
And we all helped make it
It's called the Death of the West

A star is rising in our northern sky
And on it we're crucified
A chain of gold is wrapped around this world
We're ruled by those who lie

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Why were my post deleted?
Posted by: SamFox on May 21, 2008 3:42 PM   
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All I did was post some sites that contradict the 'feel sorry for the poor illegals' attitude.

This is typically of leftist liberals. The only free speech they want is theirs. The only point of view they can hear or see is theirs.

I did not curse, defame or post hate sites. I do not hate illegals. I do wish they would stop invading the USA. All my links were to sites that show the illegal immigration problem is worse than indicated in the lead story. If you are not going to allow an honest debate at least have the integrity to say so!!

SamFox

SamFox

» RE: Why were my post deleted? Posted by: genderless
ICEd Out
Posted by: penobscotdziekuje@yahoo.com on May 21, 2008 3:57 PM   
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If the United States claims to be a bellwether on human rights, then we are only fooling others with our charade called Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) under the Dept. of Homeland Security.
When it comes to treatment of its "illegal" or undocumented humans, the results have been dismal: people dying in captivity, mothers taken away from their children, habeas corpus suspended, and reports of torture, drugging often put fear into these people.
ICE can conduct all the raids it wants, but it will not deter people from wanting to do America's dirty work; a MBA person wouldn't dare set foot inside a meat packing plant nor work as janitors or any other kind of low-paying job.
An argument would go that ICE raids are necessary and are "enforcing" the "law", but this misses the purpose: these raids are only to intimidate others and to appease the "law and order" sect. The detainees aren't housed in Malibu-type rehab centers, so you can bet these detention facilities are as bad an Los Angeles or a Third World jail.
Life in this country isn't supposed to be like this-a 3.6 million plus square mile penal colony with an electronic fence on the southern border with armed to the teeth border patrol squad. As we have seen in Oklahoma, kicking out nearly all the undocumented or guest workers-Gastarbeiter-will wreck havoc in your economy.
For now, let's stop these ICE raids and just put them on ice.

Will Alternet research&publish stories about crimes committed by illegal immigrants?
Posted by: stilldreaming on May 21, 2008 4:45 PM   
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Or stories about how US, the feds, the states, and private citizens HELPED aliens, illegal or not, offered warmth, a welcome, charity, jobs, medical, and free schooling for their kids, and most importantly, US citizens day to day kindness to others.

Just for balance. Just wondering. And don't withold the gorry details of crimes committed by illegals. Just so we don't get the wrong impression that only US is big and bad and racist etc, and the "poor" immigrants are so innocent, so wronged, always treated badly.

I do not deny that US needs to regulate abuses by officers, police etc, or that police and immigration themselves need to follow US law, and IMO torture has absolutely no place in US law.

Question
Posted by: SOWILO on May 21, 2008 5:00 PM   
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Do we really need MORE Catholics in this country? We are up to our eyeballs in Christians. THAT is why America is a dump, people.

» LoL Posted by: Mexitli
» RE: LoL Posted by: SOWILO
The Deptartment of Homeland security?...
Posted by: Bearzerker on May 21, 2008 5:39 PM   
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... is an oxymoron!...

tell me honestly, do really feel safer since these clowns where put in charge of the Homeland [sounds precariously like fatherland and a Nazi-state] or are they like how I see them... part of the problem [ala Gestapo] and exacerbating it instead of finding a true solution!

dammit people... just how many layers of policing do you need anyways...
cant you sheeple see these things for what they are... GRAFT MACHINES for politicals freinds and associates...

always follow the money... see where it comes from and illuminate the funding at its source...
that would make eliminating all the shit that this illegal cash funds so much easier now wouldn't it!

reduce the costs to the GDP by streamlining medical care and its costs to productivity as a healthy workforce is a working workforce... at the same time bring all citizens into care coverage... this WILL ensure that all people WILL BE PROPERLY IDENTIFIED, possibly ending the problem with voter fraud as well

end the black market... bringing all goods and services into the mainstream will de-fund terrorism and organized criminal activities.
This will also eliminate the need for the corporate prison complexes and the vast numbers of incarcerated people which are their primarily to work as slave laborers, and cutting incomes to actual working families who in turn feed the economies of multiple countries...

its a vicious cycle but through good leadership it can be salvaged!

to many Chiefs... not enough Indians... and way to many handouts

» 84gawker Posted by: jbwestwood
nothing is shocking with our reign of terror
Posted by: genderless on May 21, 2008 7:01 PM   
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Why don't you look closer to the fabric of our own society, the corrupt government that invades a nations for OIL and other nations by economic manipulation and the pretence of Democracy/Hypocrisy serving Corporate Greed, and passing laws serving special interest groups. It is not one thing or the other it is the whole system that needs to be shaken. You cannot sustain a corrupt system for too long and blame others for it. Our economy, the price of Oil, the weak $, the wrong war, our domestic affairs, the housing crisis, health care crisis, education, so many things and they didn't go bad because of the Mexicans or other illegal immigrants on the contrary it is the lawfull citizens who are abusing the system and pointing the fingers on others for distraction as usual.

Great analysis of a complex issue
Posted by: ailicec on May 21, 2008 7:31 PM   
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I originally was going to comment on comments, but reading the hateful messages made me a little sick. So instead I'll just comment on the story.

This is a great article, and I'm very grateful to Joshua Holland for having the courage to speak up on this. Ever since I first read about the raid in Iowa, I've been asking myself if ICE's timing was just coincidence or purposely convenient.

"Agriprocessor's management must have been pleased with the timing of the raid. Not only did it put at least a crimp in the ongoing investigations of serious allegations of abuse by the company, it also derailed an effort by UFCW to organize the plants' workers and give them a shot at bargaining with management for better working conditions."

The company was being investigated for violations of CHILD LABOR LAWS, they had children as young as 13 working in the slaughterhouse.

84gawker
Posted by: jbwestwood on May 21, 2008 8:45 PM   
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A bad key stroke wiped out longer comments so here's mine in question form.

Don't you find admirable today's failed attempt by Senators Craig and Feinstein to attach (sneak is a more factual term) to the IRAQ war bill a provision for inviting more illegals into US farm labor? Puppets!

privatized: ICE Northwest Detention Center - docushort
Posted by: BlueBerry PickN on May 21, 2008 9:30 PM   
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.
.
. . . Who is Wackenhut?

why should you care? ... they run privatized:
- prisons
- medical facilities
- psychiatric facilities
- support & security facilities
- data management of 'turn-key' style facilities...
- transport of persons between facilities...

Smash ICE Northwest Detention Center - docushort

& let's not forget, in the US, judges can invest in their prisons, too!
or, you can own prisons, & just BECOME a judge!

how wonderfully flexible...

with all those profits to be made, good job nobody gets left out!

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Land of the brave(white)home of the free(white)
Posted by: sicntired on May 21, 2008 10:21 PM   
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I guess there's no point in calling this terrorism as that's what the war of terror is all about.Prejudice is as old as the mayflower and it's quite obviously live and well.This is heartless and futile and against everything the US is supposed to be about.

Police State
Posted by: macdon1 on May 21, 2008 10:50 PM   
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It is horrifying to see how this country is rapidly turning into a police state and how enforcement is increasingly privatized and in corporate hands. No wonder my state, where we have prison for profit, has surpassed China in per capita incarceration. Put them slaves to work for pennies an hour! Meanwhile,corporate criminals take advantage of the "illegals" who are fleeing the results of American economic policies in their own countries and put them to work for pennies too. When things get too hot, they stage raids and make money from the for-profit detention centers they own.