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'Unmoored from conservative ideals': Pence rips into MAGA for having no 'moral foundation'

Former Vice President Mike Pence is sounding the alarm over what he describes as a dangerous shift within the conservative movement, warning that it is at risk of losing its philosophical foundation. In an essay for National Affairs, Pence cautioned that the American right is being overtaken by a force antithetical to traditional conservatism.

“The question for today’s conservatives is clear: Will we remain a party of enduring principles, or will we succumb to populism unmoored from conservative ideals?” Pence wrote in the piece, co-authored with a founder of the conservative Heritage Foundation.

The essay laments what Pence calls an “existential identity crisis” among conservatives and criticizes the movement’s turn toward “populist fervor” and the “transformation into the anti-woke movement.”

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“A political movement once united by a commitment to limited government, moral order, and a robust defense of American ideals now appears fractured, its purpose clouded by populist grievances and ideological drift,” he wrote.

He continued: "By the time [President] Donald Trump won his second term, much post-election analysis correctly framed his victory not as a triumph of conservative ideals, but as a mere repudiation of a decadent and debauched Democratic Party.”

“While such opposition can attract allies and can even win elections when Republicans are out of power, it cannot serve as a movement’s moral foundation. Conservatism cannot be defined solely by what it isn’t,” the former vice president added.

While Pence stops short of naming Trump — his onetime running mate turned political adversary after the events of Jan. 6, 2021—the critique echoes familiar themes from Trump’s post-presidency agenda.

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Last month, Pence said during an interview that it was disheartening to see Trump revert to the same kind of rhetoric in his second term that had contributed to the 2021 Capitol riot.

In an interview with NBC, Pence also voiced criticism of Trump’s tariff strategy and various foreign policy choices.

“The initial reciprocal tariffs that he unveiled would be the largest peacetime tax hike on the American people in the history of this country,” Pence said at the time, referencing the broad tariffs Trump introduced on the nation’s major trading partners in early April.

Mike Pence receives award for defending democracy from Trump — without mentioning his name

Politico reports former Vice President Mike Pence received the John F. Kennedy Profile in Courage Award this weekend for his refusal to join President Donald Trump’s attempt to buck democracy and remain in office after losing the 2020 election. The award recognizes Pence “for putting his life and career on the line to ensure the constitutional transfer of presidential power on Jan. 6, 2021,” the JFK Library Foundation said.

Four years ago, Trump pressured Pence to reject legitimate election results from swing states where Trump falsely claimed the vote was tainted by fraud. Pence refused, and a mob of Trump supporters stormed the Capitol on Jan. 6, whipped into a fury by Trump’s angry social media posts.

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“Mike Pence didn’t have the courage to do what should have been done to protect our Country and our Constitution, giving States a chance to certify a corrected set of facts, not the fraudulent or inaccurate ones which they were asked to previously certify,” Trump wrote on “X”, driving Pence to hide with his family and his security detail.

Despite calls from the mob to “hang Mike Pence,” Pence rejected the Secret Service’s advice to leave the Capitol and stayed to complete the ceremonial election certification of Joe Biden’s presidential victory.

Pence told the audience at the award ceremony that “by God’s grace I did my duty that day to support the peaceful transfer of power under the Constitution of the United States of America.”

“Jan. 6 was a tragic day but it became a triumph of freedom. History will record that our institutions held,” he said in his speech. “Leaders in both chambers, in both political parties reconvened the very same day and finished democracy’s work under the Constitution.”

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Pence said he still disagrees with his Republican Party on tariffs and his “belief that America is the leader of the free world and must stand with Ukraine until the Russian invasion is repelled and a just and lasting peace is secured.” However, the Daily Beast noted Pence took care not to mention Trump's name, stopping himself at the importance of defending the Constitution--mere hours after Trump refused to promise not to defy it.

JFK’s daughter, Caroline Kennedy presented the award along with JFK’s grandson Jack Schlossberg.

Read the full Politico story here.

'Even Mike Pence knows': Internet erupts after Trump’s former VP skewers his new tariffs

Shortly after President Donald Trump issued Wednesday’s announcement of new tariffs, four Senate Republicans joined Democrats to extend a lopsided bipartisan rebuke to his trade policy. The Senate adopted a resolution by a 51 to 48 vote to block his proposed tariffs on imports from Canada, a longtime US ally. Now, former Vice President Mike Pence is further infuriating Trump supporters by calling out his new tariffs as “a tax.”

Pence cited a statement from his Advancing American Freedom Foundation describing the tariffs as “the largest peacetime tax hike in U.S. history,” capable of spoiling “America’s golden age before it begins.”

“The Trump Tariff Tax will cost American families more than $3,500 per year,” Pence's foundation claimed, adding, “The median American family earns about 101,000 a year. A new $3,500 tax would easily erase three years’ worth of pay raises for most families."

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The statement quickly drew howls of fury from Trump supporters who believe Pence undermined Trump’s attempt to overthrow the 2020 election when he refused to support Trump and his “gaggle of crackpot lawyers” who asked him “to literally reject votes” at the Jan. 6 certification proceeding in 2020.

One supporter compared Pence’s tariff-related share on X as “treason” because he owes Trump “his loyalty,” while hundreds of others accused him of betrayal.

Many more notable X observers welcomed Pence as one of few Republican voices speaking openly against the destructive tariffs, even as Trump’s announcement sank stock prices and tumbled markets within minutes on Wednesday. FamiliesUSA Deputy Senior Policy Director Ben Anderson seized on Pence’s post, pointing out that “even Mike Pence knows Trump's tariffs are taxing poor and middle-income families to give to the rich, and extort American businesses to establish cronyism and oligarchy.

News anchor Lawrence O’ Donnell referenced the post as an example that, “Trump Republicans now support the biggest tax increase in history,” and agreed that “Yes, it’s not just a tax. It’s the biggest one in history.”

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Until today, the vast majority of GOP members have supported Trump’s multiple tariffs, or they have refused to publicly speak against them. It was no surprise, then, that reporters like New York Times bestselling author and NPR reporter Steve Inskeep and Sandiego Union-Tribune reporter Tom Mallory were quick to document the growing chink in Republican unity.

Still more X users expressed gratitude to Pence, “for being a conservative and supporting free markets,” while others were more grudging in their appreciation. Pence spent most of his tenure as Trump’s VP fully endorsing the most controversial of Trump’s first-term initiatives.

“I HATE when I have to agree with Mike Pence,” said one user, echoing a long roster of similar admissions.

Other commenters, including “Useful Idiot” author and reporter S.V. Dáte, worried Pence was working his way onto Trump’s hit list, saying “Hope the VP doesn’t have tattoos or he’s El Salvador bound.”

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'Completely out of step': Mike Pence’s org comes out swinging against Trump Cabinet pick

Former Vice President Mike Pence may no longer be President-elect Donald Trump's right-hand man, but he's not quite done with politics yet.

That's according to a Wednesday article in Politico, which reported that Pence's organization, Advancing American Freedom (AAF), is waging a campaign aimed at Republican senators urging them to reject one of Trump's high-profile Cabinet picks. AAF is setting its sights on Health and Human Services (HHS) Secretary-designate Robert F. Kennedy Jr. over his previous positions in favor of abortion.

AAF wrote in a statement that Kennedy is "pro-abortion," which the group argues is "completely out of step with the strong, pro-life record of the first Trump Administration."

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"While RFK Jr. has made certain overtures to pro-life leaders that he would be mindful of their concerns at HHS, there is little reason for confidence at this time," AAF's letter continued.

AAF's letter advocating against Kennedy's confirmation comes on the heels of a remark Pence made in December, when he lamented that RFK Jr. was "the most pro-abortion Republican appointed secretary of HHS in modern history." And so far, the president-elect's team has remained relatively quiet regarding RFK Jr.'s past comments in favor of abortion.

When Kennedy was fielding his own presidential bid as an independent, he had conflicting positions on abortion. At first, he backed a 15-week ban on the procedure, but then did a one-eighty and said all pregnant individuals should have the right to an abortion, "even if it's full-term." He's since walked that statement back saying that he only supports abortion restrictions late into a pregnancy.

As Politico reported, HHS has significant sway over abortion in the United States as it provides funding for women's health nonprofit Planned Parenthood. HHS also has jurisdiction over abortion drug Mifepristone, which has been used for medication abortions with FDA approval for decades. The Heritage Foundation's Project 2025 has called for the enforcement of the Comstock Act of 1873 as a means of restricting access to abortion drugs like Mifepristone.

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Click here to read Politico's article in full.

'Karen Pence is all of us': Internet cheers former VP’s wife for refusing to acknowledge Trump

One awkward interaction between President-elect Donald Trump and former Second Lady Karen Pence at the state funeral of President Jimmy Carter is going viral.

The Indianapolis Star reported Thursday that while Trump and his wife, Melania were walking past Vice Presidents Al Gore, Mike Pence and his wife, the spouse of Trump's former vice president — who declined to endorse him in 2024 — stayed seated and didn't even acknowledge the Trumps. Karen Pence snubbed the incoming First Family despite both Gore and her husband rising from their seats to shake his hand.

Former Republican Ron Filipkowski — who is now the editor-in-chief of liberal news site MeidasTouch — posted video of the snub to Bluesky, writing: "Karen Pence wants nothing to do with Donald or Melania Trump."

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"Karen Pence has more of a spine than her entire party," retired attorney Michael B. Lehroff wrote in response to the video.

The former second lady's coldness to the incoming president could be due to Trump egging on the mob of his supporters that laid siege to the United States Capitol on January 6, 2021, erected a gallows outside and roamed the halls chanting "hang Mike Pence!" Pence was escorted out of the Senate chamber by Secret Service as the mob broke past police barricades after refusing to stop the certification of Electoral College votes for President Joe Biden. Rather than call off the mob, Trump instead tweeted that his vice president "didn't have the courage to do what should have been done to protect our Country and our Constitution."

Olivia Troye — a former national security aide for Vice President Pence — praised her former boss' wife on Bluesky, writing: "Karen Pence is all of us right now having to stomach Trump sitting that close to them. Her face when he walked in said it all." Rolling Stone reporter Asawin Suebsaeng was also shocked at the interaction, especially when contrasting it with how Trump was received by other dignitaries, like former President Barack Obama.

"Am I getting this right? Is the only one being openly rude to Trump at this funeral… Karen Pence?" Suebsaeng skeeted.

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"At least one of the Pences has some cojones," writer Rebecca Bodenheimer commented.

Karen Pence wasn't the only celebrity present at the funeral to decline a handshake from the president-elect. Former Republican President George W. Bush also refused to shake Trump's hand, despite warmly welcoming former President Bill Clinton and former First Lady Hillary Clinton to the ceremony.

Watch the video of Karen Pence's snub below, or by clicking this link.


Karen Pence wants nothing to do with Donald or Melania Trump.

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— Ron Filipkowski (@ronfilipkowski.bsky.social) January 9, 2025 at 10:13 AM

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'We can never go back': Anti-Trump Republican says reforming GOP now 'off the table'

In the wake of President-elect Donald Trump's campaign, no group may be more politically homeless than anti-Trump Republicans.

A Saturday report in Politico detailed how some of the most prominent Republicans who opposed Trump during the 2024 election are considering the future of their party as Trump recasts it in his image. This past election cycle not only returned Trump to power in spite of opposition from lifelong Republicans like former Reps. Liz Cheney (R-Wyo.) and Adam Kinzinger (R-Ill.), but also proved to be the one in which Trump's family took over the GOP's national campaign apparatus with his daughter-in-law Lara elected as its co-chair.

Now, some Republicans are wondering whether there's room for them in the GOP at all given the MAGA-led takeover of the party. Former Rep. Joe Walsh (R-Ill.), who was elected in the 2010 Tea Party wave and ousted two years later, says any hope of reforming the Republican Party to go back to traditional conservative philosophy is now "off the table."

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“It’s down to two options,” Walsh told Politico. “Productively throw rocks at the administration — kind of be like a group in exile and from a distance do what we can to damage MAGA, knowing we can never go back — or become Democrats.”

Even though she endorsed Trump in the general election, former U.N. Ambassador Nikki Haley has since come out against some of Trump's more controversial Cabinet picks like Robert F. Kennedy Jr. as the potential new Health and Human Services secretary and Director of National Intelligence-designate Tulsi Gabbard. Haley — a foreign policy hawk — accused Gabbard in a recent episode of her radio show of being a "Russian, Iranian, Syrian, Chinese sympathizer." And she called RFK Jr. a "liberal Democrat" with "no background in healthcare."

Former Vice President Mike Pence has also come out against Kennedy due to his position on abortion. Pence called RFK Jr.'s nomination to lead U.S. health agencies "deeply concerning to millions of Pro-Life Americans who have supported the Republican Party and our nominees for decades." Now, these Republicans are putting their hopes in the hands of more moderate members of the Senate Republican conference to put the kibosh on Trump's most extreme nominees. This includes Senators like Susan Collins (R-Maine) and Lisa Murkowski (R-Alaska).

“That is the only way for Trump to be checked … the sort of in-group moderates, the people who are members of the Republican Party who won’t give Trump carte blanche and who will push back against the most damaging things,” Sarah Longwell, publisher of anti-Trump conservative website The Bulwark, told Politico. “You’re going to need people in the Republican Party to not cave completely to Trump.”

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'There’s no one else': Ex-Pence staffer speaking at DNC urges him to publicly oppose Trump

Former President Donald Trump's selection of Sen. JD Vance (R-Ohio) as his 2024 running mate served as a reminder to many of what happened to former Vice President Mike Pence, who went from being Trump's right-hand man to MAGA's public enemy #1. Now, one of his former staffers is calling on him to campaign against the ex-president.

In a recent interview with CNN, former Pence advisor Olivia Troye – who is speaking on night three of the Democratic National Convention (DNC) in Chicago tonight — urged Pence to speak out against his old boss ahead of the 2024 election. She told host Jim Acosta that given how Pence was treated by the MAGA movement on January 6, it would be "amazing" if the former Indiana governor was at the DNC this week with other anti-Trump Republicans.

"There's no one else that has lived what Donald Trump and the danger that he is, that he poses, more than him," Troye said. "I have seen him in varied moments of crisis where he had to navigate how we were going to handle Donald Trump and how we were gonna not let him derail things that we were trying to do when we were trying to help the American people, especially during times of Covid."

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"Again, in mass shooting situations that were actually hate crimes and domestic terrorism ... how do you message in a moment that requires true leadership to the American people, while also countering the fact that it's the person sitting in the Oval Office at the time who's actually driving some of the hate crimes and some of these incidents that are happening in the country by the rhetoric that he's using?" She added.

Pence famously declined Trump's request to interfere with Congress' certification of the Electoral College vote count on January 6, 2021. It was later revealed that Pence sought the counsel of former Vice President Dan Quayle on how he could legally do so, only for Quayle to tell him that the role of the vice president in the Congressional certification of election results was only ceremonial and that he had no Constitutional authority to declare any result invalid.

Still, as a violent mob of Trump supporters laid siege to the U.S. Capitol and chanted "hang Mike Pence," Trump angrily tweeted that Pence lacked the "courage" to overturn the results of the 2020 election. The outgoing vice president was rushed out of the Capitol by his Secret Service detail while the mob that erected a gallows outside of the capitol roamed the halls of Congress searching for Pence.

The events of January 6 were likely the chief contributor to Pence's decision to not endorse Trump when Fox News host Martha McCallum asked him about it in March. He has so far not endorsed the Democratic ticket, and has said he plans to stay out of the 2024 election entirely.

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Earlier this month, he condemned the GOP's "growing abandonment of our allies on the world stage." And while he said he wouldn't be endorsing President Joe Biden, he specified in an interview with far-right activist Eric Erickson that he "could never vote for Kamala Harris for President of the United States."

Troye will be speaking Wednesday night at the United Center in downtown Chicago, along with former Georgia Republican Lieutenant Governor Geoff Duncan. Both anti-Trump Republicans will be sharing the main stage with prominent Democrats like Transportation Secretary Pete Buttigieg, former President Bill Clinton and Minnesota Governor (and 2024 vice presidential nominee) Tim Walz.

Watch Troye's segment on CNN below, or by clicking this link.

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'He betrayed his country': Mike Pence’s RNC absence 'cast a shadow over' convention

The Republican Party's quadrennial convention is underway in Milwaukee, Wisconsin this week, but once journalist covering the event observed that one high-profile Republican is "conspicuously" absent: Former Vice President Mike Pence.

In a Tuesday article for Mother Jones, reporter Tim Murphy wrote that former President Donald Trump's second-in-command not attending this year's Republican National Convention (RNC) didn't go unnoticed by other attendees, either. While he was waiting for Trump's official announcement of Sen. J.D. Vance (R-Ohio) as his 2024 running mate, Murphy asked several delegates at Milwaukee's Fiserv Forum what they thought of Trump's first running mate refusing to endorse his former boss in his third bid for the White House.

"He was a great vice president until he wasn’t," Nevada Republican Mike Bassett told Murphy. He added that "loyalty to Trump" was one of his own main criterion in the former president's search for a new running mate.

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Florida Republican Rose Roque, who was attending the convention with her daughter, Rose Rodriguez, told Murphy that she didn't "even want to say" what she thought about Pence when he asked her. But her daughter was more outspoken about the former vice president who declined to intervene in Congress' certification of the 2020 Electoral College vote count on January 6, 2021.

"He betrayed his country," Rodriguez said. "Although he thought he was doing the correct thing, according to him, he let himself be poisoned. And I think he already was poisoned—he came in already being that way."

Before Vance was announced as Trump's pick for vice president, Murphy reported that other delegates ruminated about other options. Those favored by delegates include disgraced former two-star General Michael Flynn (Trump's former National Security Adviser) and others that would help the GOP shore up support from key voting blocs, like women and people of color.

"I did talk to delegates who wanted governing or managerial experience, strong communication skills, and even a bit of gender or racial diversity from their VP. Republicans floated Byron Donalds and Tulsi Gabbard. More than one person pined for Glenn Youngkin," Murphy wrote. "But Pence had cast a shadow over the search."

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New Jersey Republican Michael Rosen opined that Pence "seemed to be trying to do a balancing act and it never really worked," culminating in the January 6 insurrection in which a mob of Trump supporters roamed the halls of the U.S. Capitol chanting "hang Mike Pence." He said Trump needed "someone who’s gonna work with him and not gonna leave him in a lurch at the end."

"[Pence] should have worked with Trump when he was going through all that stuff instead of throwing his hands up and saying ‘I’ve got no control,'" Rosen said. "We were kind of left with nothing."

Click here to read Murphy's full report in Mother Jones.

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Pence’s $10 million spending spree will help Trump campaign on tax cuts for the rich

Former Vice President Mike Pence, who is not endorsing Donald Trump, is spending $10 million in an effort to preserve the Trump tax cuts that largely benefitted ultra-wealthy millionaires and billionaires, which will help his ex-boss’s re-election efforts.

Advancing American Freedom, Pence’s political advocacy group, “is launching a $10 million campaign to push for an extension of the Trump-era tax cuts, which are set to expire next year and will likely play a key role in the 2024 election,” according to The Hill.

President Joe Biden has said he wants to eliminate Trump’s 2017 Tax Cuts and Jobs Act for those making over $400,000, NBC News reports The tax cuts have added $1 to $2 trillion dollars to the national debt.

“A CBO report in May estimated that extending the provisions of Trump’s Tax Cuts and Jobs Act would increase deficits by nearly $5 trillion into 2034,” the Associated Press reports, adding that Pence’s group is “press[ing] conservatives not to stray from the fight before the November election.”

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Pence’s group also “released a 13-page blueprint Thursday with arguments being made to Capitol Hill and to voters in swing states, particularly in those that could decide control of the Senate.”

“As of May 2020, the Tax Policy Center estimated the tax cuts would add between $1 and $2 trillion to the federal debt by 2025. The Center for American Progress estimated the bill will have cost roughly $1.7 trillion by the end of fiscal year 2023 on June 30,” according to a 2023 USA Today fact check on the Trump tax cuts.

“The benefits of the 2017 tax changes were overwhelmingly skewed toward the wealthy,” the Center for American Progress reported in April. It provided “the largest tax cuts to the very wealthy,” which “failed to trickle down to ordinary workers.”

“The most significant piece of legislation former President Donald Trump signed during his first term had a dramatic cut in the corporate tax rate from 35 percent to 21 percent as its centerpiece,” Center for American Progress Action reported last week in “Trump’s $50 Billion Tax Giveaway to the 100 Largest Corporations.”

“That corporate tax cut did not trickle down to ordinary workers but cost $1.3 trillion and helped fuel a record $1 trillion in stock buybacks the year after it passed.”

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Pence defense of Alito’s insurrectionist flag highlights its ties to violent gov’t overthrow

Mike Pence is defending far-right U.S. Supreme Court Justice Samuel Alito, whose ethics and ability to serve on the nation’s highest court are being questioned after The New York Times revealed he had been flying a highly-controversial flag used by the January 6 insurrectionists, neo-Nazis, and a far-right neo-fascist hate group. Democrats are demanding the justice recuse himself from all cases involving Donald Trump and the 2020 presidential election, and some are also demanding his resignation or impeachment.

The former Trump Vice President, in defending Alito, may have made the situation even worse for the 74-year old jurist by highlighting the flag’s ties to revolution and the overthrow of government. In his defense Pence also encourages all Americans to fly the flag: “The ‘Appeal to Heaven’ flag is part or our proud heritage of Faith and Freedom and every American should be proud to fly it,” he writes.

“The Appeal to Heaven Flag” dates back centuries, to the American Revolution, but in recent years was very clearly co-opted by the radical religious right and was seen being carried by the insurrectionists during the assault on the U.S. Capitol, some of whom who chanted, “hang Mike Pence,” as he and his family were being whisked away by Secret Service on January 6:



MSNBC columnist Sarah Posner, who for years has been writing about religion and politics, on Thursday noted, “the more one knows about the background of the flag, the more chilling its presence at [Alito’s] house becomes.”

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Posner says the flag is “an unmistakable emblem for an influential segment of Christian nationalists who claim the 2020 election was stolen from Donald Trump, contrary to God’s will, and that believers’ spiritual warfare is essential to restoring God’s anointed leader to his rightful office.”

“It was one of numerous Christian nationalist flags and other iconography carried by Trump supporters Jan. 6 and at the Jericho March, a series of prayer rallies that were like jet fuel for the insurrection,” Posner explains. “The Jericho March featured right-wing evangelical and Catholic speakers alongside militants such as conspiracist Alex Jones, Trump’s disgraced national security adviser Michael Flynn, and Oathkeepers founder Stewart Rhodes, now serving an 18-year prison sentence for seditious conspiracy and other crimes.”

Posner adds the flag “originated in Revolutionary times as a call to take up arms against unjust rulers who ignored the pleas of their citizens.”

Pence also refers to the Revolutionary War in his defense of Justice Alito, ignoring that the Revolutionary War was won several hundred years ago, and ignoring that a sitting U.S. Supreme Court justice promoting the very concept of taking up arms against rulers, unjust or otherwise, is, as constitutional scholar and University Professor Emeritus at Harvard University, Laurence Tribe wrote, “close to treason.”

Pence calls the “controversy” of Justice Alito’s flag-flying “absurd and anti-historical.” He quotes English Enlightenment philosopher John Locke, promoting his idea of the right to revolution, to replace a government.


In its Bombshell report Wednesday announcing the existence of a second Alito flag tied to the insurrectionists, The New York Times explains the Locke tie to the “Appeal to Heaven” flag.

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“Since its creation during the American Revolution, the flag has carried a message of defiance: The phrase ‘appeal to heaven’ comes from the 17th-century philosopher John Locke, who wrote of a responsibility to rebel, even use violence, to overthrow unjust rule. ‘It’s a paraphrase for trial by arms,’ Anthony Grafton, a historian at Princeton University, said in an interview. ‘The main point is that there’s no appeal, there’s no one else you can ask for help or a judgment.'”

Coincidentally or not, Grafton’s “trial by arms” seems to echo Trump acolyte Rudy Giuliani’s January 6 speech in which he specifically called for “trial by combat.”


Religious studies scholar Matthew Taylor, quoted in The New York Times’ report on Alito’s “Appeal to Heaven” flag, told CBS News (video below) Christian nationalist leader Dutch Sheets “was given one of these flags and he believed that he received a prophecy when he received this flag, that it was a symbol of a revolution that would take place in America, a spiritual revolution that would reconstitute the United States as a truly Christian nation.”

He adds the “Appeal to Heaven” flag has become a “very potent symbol of Christian nationalism, Christian Trumpism, opposition to abortion, opposition to gay marriage, and the desire for a more Christian America.”


Watch the videos above or at this link.

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'Pence found his spine': Former VP praised on social media after refusing to endorse Trump

Former Vice President Mike Pence turned plenty of heads during a Fox News interview on Friday in which he flatly told host Martha McCallum that he would not be endorsing former President Donald Trump's third bid for the White House.

"We have not heard from you. Will you be endorsing your former president?" McCallum asked. "You were on a ticket with him last time around."

"Well, Martha, I appreciate the question," Pence said after a pause. "And it should come as no surprise that I will not be endorsing Donald Trump this year."

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But Pence's interview surprised many on X (the social media platform formerly known as Twitter), who heaped praise on the former Indiana governor for being one of a scant few Republicans refusing to hop on board the Trump train in 2024.

Washington Post political reporter Aaron Blake tweeted that Pence's refusal to endorse his old boss is "obviously very significant," adding that he is taking "a very different approach from others like Kemp/Sununu etc., who basically said they have to pick a side." He noted that during one of last year's Republican presidential primary debates, "Pence raised his hand when candidates were asked if they'd support even a convicted Trump. That's changed."

Others were less surprised, like former CIA operative John Sipher, who opined "I think we are so beaten down that we aren't shocked that the former President's own Vice President is against him." University College London professor Brian Klaas observed: "The people who worked most closely with Trump almost universally think he should be nowhere near the White House." And MSNBC host Katie Phang was effusive in her praise, tweeting "Pence found his spine again."

Pence fell out of favor with Trump on January 6, 2021, when he refused to use his position as the presiding officer over the US Senate's counting of Electoral College votes to declare Trump the winner. After Trump supporters stormed the US Capitol in an effort to disrupt Congress' certification of the 2020 election, Pence was whisked away by Secret Service agents to a hidden location. During the capitol siege, Trump refused to call off his supporters, and faulted Mike Pence in a tweet, saying he "didn't have the courage to do what should have been done." January 6 insurrectionists even built a gallows outside of the capitol building and chanted "hang Mike Pence" as they roamed the halls of Congress.

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However, Pence tried until the very end to keep Trump in power despite him losing both the Electoral College majority and the popular vote to Joe Biden. The book Peril, by journalists Bob Woodward and Robert Costa, described an exchange between Pence and former Vice President Dan Quayle, whom Pence was in close contact with toward the end of the Trump administration. In their conversation, Pence pressed Quayle repeatedly, asking him about any legal way to use his powers to keep Trump in office. When Quayle told him there was no way to do it, Pence pushed back, saying "you don't know the position I'm in."

"‘I do know the position you're in," Quayle told Pence. "I also know what the law is. You listen to the parliamentarian. That’s all you do. You have no power."

Other political observers on X attributed Pence's refusal to endorse the 45th president of the United States to the crowds of angry Trump supporters calling for his neck. Mother Jones journalist David Corn tweeted that Pence not endorsing Trump was a "brave move," pointing out that Trump "almost got him killed." Independent journalist Marcy Wheeler summed up McCallum's initial question by writing "Donald Trump almost got you assassinated. Will you put that behind you in the name of Republican solidarity?" X user @thetrueshelby was more succinct, tweeting "he did try and hang him, y'all."

Still, former Obama administration official Anthony Coley lauded Pence for his lack of endorsement, writing that "more conservative voices — people who are known and respected by the GOP base — need to follow suit and speak out against the grave danger Trump poses to our democracy" in order to "break the fever that is Trumpism."

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Watch the video of Pence's remarks on Fox News below, or by clicking this link.


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