House Speaker Mike Johnson (R-La.) appeared to say that President Donald Trump once doubled as a confidential informant for the FBI before he ran for office.
Johnson made the comment while speaking to reporters at the U.S. Capitol on Thursday about Rep. Thomas Massie's (R-Ky.) effort to force a vote on releasing the Department of Justice's remaining evidence on convicted pedophile Jeffrey Epstein. When CNN congressional correspondent Manu Raju asked Johnson about Trump calling the ongoing controversy over Epstein a "hoax," the speaker insisted that Trump's statement was being misconstrued by the media.
"I've talked with him about this many times," Johnson said. "It's been misrepresented. He's not saying that what Epstein did is a hoax. It's a terrible, unspeakable evil. He believes that himself. When he first heard the rumor he kicked [Epstein] out of Mar-a-Lago. He was an FBI informant to try to take this stuff down."
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Trump's status as an FBI informant remains unconfirmed. However, he has a history of being willing to cooperate with the FBI in the past. BuzzFeed News reported in 2017 on a 1981 FBI memo in which he said he would to "fully cooperate" with the bureau. Trump reportedly agreed to accommodate undercover FBI agents at his Atlantic City, New Jersey casino who were investigating organized crime.
In 2016, the Washington Post reported that Trump "welcomed [agents] in" to his Manhattan office, and that the meeting came at a pivotal time in Trump's career when he was trying to cement himself as a real estate tycoon in New York. The report detailed how Trump became close friends with both an FBI informant who worked for Trump as a labor consultant and investigator Walt Stowe, who at the time was one of the informant's handlers.
If Trump indeed worked as an FBI informant to take down Epstein, it may have happened sometime between 2004 and 2005, when the two had their famous falling-out over a $41 million mansion in Palm Beach, Florida. The New York Post reported last year that the mansion became a "centerpiece of an intense rivalry" between the two men who were formerly close friends. The initial investigation into Epstein's exploitation of underage girls began in March of 2005, according to the Palm Beach Post.
Trump previously said that he ended his friendship with Epstein after he "stole" Virginia Giuffre — one of Epstein's most prominent accusers who died by suicide earlier this year — from the Mar-a-Lago spa in 2000. However, journalist and author Barry Levine said that Epstein maintained his paying membership at Mar-a-Lago as late as 2007, which was well after his initial arrest and subsequent prosecution for preying on teenage girls.
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Watch the video of Johnson's remarks below, or by clicking this link (Johnson's comments about Trump being "an FBI informant" can be heard around the 3:15 mark).