Legal experts warn Trump is the one who committed perjury in E. Jean Carroll trial

Legal experts Katie Phang, Norm Eisen and Adam Klasfeld appeared on Thursday for a discussion about the new taxpayer-funded lawsuit against foe E. Jean Carroll by President Donald Trump's Justice Department.

Trump, who lost two lawsuits for defamation, was accused of sexual assault by Carroll, and when Trump spoke out against her, she sued. Two juries awarded her $88 million and declared him liable for defamation while also agreeing that he committed an act of sexual abuse.

The DOJ now claims that she lied under oath when she was asked whether someone was funding her legal fees. In reality, Democratic megadonor Reid Hoffman was footing some of the costs, though it's unclear whether she knew that when she was asked. Carroll's lawyer later told the judge that Hoffman was funding some of the legal expenses. The DOJ says she lied under oath.

In the latest conversation with "The Contrarian," Klasfeld called it ironic because there were acts of perjury on Trump's part.

"I was in federal court when the deposition of Donald Trump was unspooled and he famously, and one might say wretchedly, claimed she's not my type," he recalled.

Trump claimed to the lawyers that he could not have sexually assaulted Carroll because she wasn't attractive enough.

"That was his defense to sexual abuse. She's not my type," Klasfeld continued. "And in this deposition, he was shown a picture that he was not aware included E. Jean Carroll, pointed to that picture, and confused her with Marla Maples. So clearly, she was his type. He confused her with his second wife."

Eisen began laughing. "What an a——."

"And so that was just one example of the demonstrable lies that led a unanimous federal jury to find him liable for sexually abusing E. Jean Carroll," continued Klasfeld. "And what is inspiring this new leg of the retaliation tour, in the very district where they just failed to prosecute six local activists and politicians known as the Broadview Six. They were supposed to be on trial right now, but evidence of shocking grand jury misconduct came to light."

Klasfeld said it was the "perfect place" for the DOJ to pick a jurisdiction in which to "persecute" Carroll.

Phang said that she wasn't surprised because FBI Director Kash Patel and acting Attorney General Todd Blanche spent a year investigating seashells on the beach in North Carolina.

"But here's the thing: you notice how they're not going after her about the substantive testimony she provided about the sexual assault that she was victimized by Trump, right?" Phang added. "They're not going after that. They're not going after the underlying facts of what she has alleged happened to her at the hands of Donald Trump. That is the tell."

Instead, Trump is going after a Reid Hoffman-related question, claiming it was perjury. But they're not disputing the facts of the case and the jury's verdict.