If you listen to the money media, you might think that fixing the economy is just a matter of the right bailout or the right tax policy. But what would it mean to fight for systemic economic change? What are the economic alternatives? At GRITtv we actually ask those questions and engage guests that have compelling answers. This week, I will be speaking with two brilliant theorists of economic change - David Harveyand Gar Alperovitz. Together they dig into the failure of capitalism, the hope presented by worker co-ops, and what activists fighting for a just economy must do to get there.

Watch the conversation with Harvey and Alperovitz below:

This episode also features excerpts from GRITtv's exclusive new documentary on worker co-ops, Own the Change.

For another look at why we need systemic change, check out last week's episode for my interview with Nikole-Hannah Jones and Jennifer Taub about how government policies have reproduced segregation.

This week also marks the release of Born to Fly, a documentary about extreme choreographer Elizabeth Streb. Check out our 2010 interview with her!