'They didn't need to!' George Conway debunks MAGA's key argument about Epstein files

Conservative attorney George Conway on CNN's "The Source with Kaitlan Collins" on November 13, 2025 (Image: Screengrab via CNN / YouTube)

Attorney George Conway — one of the most prominent conservative critics of President Donald Trump — recently addressed one of the main counterarguments against the Department of Justice releasing all remaining documents pertaining to deceased child predator Jeffrey Epstein.

During a Thursday interview with CNN host Kaitlan Collins, Conway (the former husband of one-time Trump advisor Kellyanne Conway) suggested that Deputy Attorney General Todd Blanche's prison interview with chief Epstein accomplice Ghislaine Maxwell was not about "seeking the truth," but as part of a "search for sound bites" to "get Donald Trump off a political hook." He also reminded viewers that he and Blanche sparred on X about his questioning of Maxwell, which Conway told Collins was "terrible" and "haphazard."

"It wasn't about truth, and it wasn't about justice, and it wasn't about victims who he wouldn't even speak with," Conway said. "Instead, he's tweeting at me on social media. This wasn't about justice, and this wasn't about a deputy attorney general doing his job."

At one point, Collins asked Conway for his answer to an argument about the Epstein files that pro-Trump CNN commentator Scott Jennings made earlier this week: "Why did Democrats never talk about thiswhen Biden was in office?"

"Why isthis only something that theparty cares about now, in termsof getting justice for thesethese women who were girls atthe time?" Collins asked. "I think is a fairquestion. We've asked it to Democrats, but the Biden Justice Department oversaw Ghislaine Maxwell's trial. I mean, theycould have subpoenaed the Jeffrey Epstein estate for theseemails, and they did not."

"Because they didn't need to!" Conway responded. "The whole point — Epstein wasdead, and Ghislaine Maxwell,their object was to put her injail. They did that. They onlyneeded—"

"—The emails could have revealed other people that couldhave been investigated," Collins interjected.

"Well, yes. But you know, thestatute of limitationsmight have run against somebodylike a Donald Trump. And theevidence from those documentsmight not have been sufficientto convict," he said. "I don't think thesedocuments — however amazing theyare — they're not enough toconvict."

"The only people who were witnesses were these women who were abused. And you have to take the testimony they could get to get the people who actually did the trafficking, and they did that, and they got Ghislaine Maxwell," he continued. "And it wasn't meant to be a search for everyone who might have had anything to do with Ghislaine Maxwell—"

"—But shouldn't it have been?" Collins asked.

"That's not the function of the criminal justice system, OK? and Donald Trump, I'm not saying he committed a crime and that could be proven now in 2025. The reason why this is of concern is, he's the president of the United States, he's been found in another case, by a civil jury, to have been liable for sexually abusing a woman in a department store. He is a convicted felon, and he has had dozens of women accuse him, older women, accuse him of sexual abuse ... They all had no reason to lie. This is of a piece. And sometimes justice takes a while."

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