'This is what was going on': Author details how Trump was 'actively pursuing' reinstatement after Jan. 6

13 November 2023

Ahead of the Tuesday, November 14 release of his book, Tired of Winning, the ABC News chief Washington correspondent and This Week host detailed some of his discoveries while working on the project during Monday's episode of MSNBC's Inside with Jen Psaki.

Psaki notes that in his book, Karl heavily discusses "what happened after" January 6, "including the fact that Trump, a full six months after [President Joe] Biden's inauguration, seemed to think that he could be reinstated."

She then played a clip from Karl's July 2021 interview with the 2024 MAGA hopeful.

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"By the way, when you had a release recently, you said '2024 or before' — what do you mean by that?" Karl asked the ex-president. "You don't really think there's a way you would get reinstated before the next election, do you?"

Trump replied, "I'm not gonna explain to you, Jonathan, because he wouldn't, wouldn't understand it or write it."

Karl then told Psaki, "I mean that — this is incredible, this was one of the things, for all the things that you saw over the course of the Trump presidency, this one really stood out to me for the post-presidency. Michael Lindell — MyPillow [CEO], election denying — he was out saying that Trump was gonna be reinstated, and he had an oddly specific date — he said August 13th. I figured this was a QAnon wacky thing that was out there, but I saw this press release that he'd put out, and it wasn't a press release about it, it was about something else — it was actually criticizing NBC.

He continued, "But the last lines of it were '2024 or before," and that's why I ask – and you can see, he's like, "I'm not gonna explain it to you.' So he's not denying it, but what I found is that he was actively pursuing this, actively talking about everybody that with listen privately, and he seemed to truly believe that there was gonna be a series of steps that happened in the states that he lost, and that Donald Trump was going to be able to go back into the White House, Joe Biden was going to be evicted. And there's a story — and it's not, by the way, just six months, but it kept on going on into 2022 — he actually went to [ex-U.S. Senator] Mo Brooks (R-AL), who he'd endorsed running for senate in Alabama."

Psaki interrupted, "who's quite conservative."

Karl agreed, adding, "Let's put it this way, he wore body armor to the speech outside the White House on January 6. He was the first guy to lead the objections in Congress to Biden's certification. So anyway, [Trump] called Mo Brooks up, and again, unannounced call, Mo told me he picked it up and made a series of four demands of him, and the demands were all related to this reinstatement thing. He wanted Brooks to go out and call on Biden to be removed from the White House, call for a re-running of the election, and for Trump to be reinstated for president. And, Mo brooks, again, a pretty extreme Trump die-hard, said, 'No, that's unconstitutional, I can't do it.' Trump then a few days later withdrew his endorsement. But this is what was going on. He really thought that something was going to happen — the cyber ninjas audit in Arizona and everything else — that it was all gonna come to this big culminating moment, and he was gonna go back into the White House."

Watch the video below or at this link.

Journalist who interviewed Trump explains in new book his efforts post-January 6 to be 'reinstated'youtu.be

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