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Attorney Schools CNN Host After She Criticizes Him for Calling Stephen Miller a ‘White Nationalist’

“I would argue that it’s a fact. But okay.”

CNN host Kate Bolduan tried to shame immigration attorney David Leopold after he called President Donald Trump's adviser Stephen Miller a “white nationalist.” It backfired.

Bolduan asked Leopold about Trump's stated desire to deny due process rights to undocumented immigrants.

“Is this within the president’s powers?” Bolduan asked.

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“I would argue no,” Leopold responded. “The idea here is that the president is supposed to enforce the law in good faith with an idea toward national security and border security. And then locking up kids and then gutting due process, taking away the right to go to a hearing before a judge does not serve border security, does not serve any of those interests.”

“Immigration law is harsh, it’s true,” Leopold continued. “And used in the wrong hands, as it is now with President of the United States Donald Trump, it can be used as a battering ram. And I think we have to be mindful that this is an administration that’s tried to ban entire religions.”

Then the CNN host became offended after her guest told the truth about the Trump administration on-air.

"This is an administration that is advised by a white nationalist, Stephen Miller, in the White House,” Leopold explained.

“I don’t know if you want to go as far as — I mean, let’s not," Bolduan interrupted. "I just did an entire segment about civility here. I don’t know if you want to call Stephen Miller a white nationalist.”

“Well, it’s not an uncivil thing,” Leopold quickly responded. “I would argue that it’s a fact. But okay.”

“Honestly, I have not seen that,” Bolduan weakly offered. “Where is the fact on that?”

“Look at the types of policies we’ve seen from this administration,” Leopold patiently explained to the underinformed host. “Look who is being targeted by this administration.”

“The point is that the law should be used fairly,” Leopold said. “When we see a tweet from the president on a Sunday decrying judges, saying that there should be no judges, that people shouldn’t have a chance — immigration law is complicated and if somebody comes into the United States, they may have been trafficked here, they may have the right to asylum… and may have the right to a visa. That’s why we have judges. That’s why we have courts.”

“If it starts with immigrants, how far does it go?” the immigration attorney concluded. “This is an administration that has talked about denaturalizing American citizens.”

Watch the exchange below.

Chris Sosa is the Senior Editor at AlterNet. His work also appears in Mic, Salon, Care2, Huffington Post and other publications. Follow him on Twitter @ChrisSosa.