'Horrendous': Lawyer explains Trump’s latest plan to snatch 'people out of communities'
09 December 2024
American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) lawyer Lee Gelernt on Monday warned of the immediate and longterm impact of President-Elect Donald Trump's mass deportation plan.
"Let's take them at their word that this something they are committed to doing," MSNBC's Nicolle Wallace said to Gelernt, referring to the incoming MAGA administration's crackdown on immigration. "What does it look like?" she asked. "How do you move 11 million people around? Are they on planes? Trains? Buses? Where do you put them? Who cares for them? Who takes care of their health and where do they go?"
Gelernt replied, "I think they're gonna be more competent and more prepared this term. So, we are ready for that. We are not assuming that it will be a comedy of errors. We are assuming they will be much more prepared."
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He continued, "But having said that, I don't think you can move millions and millions of people. I think that is why they are talking about getting the military involve if they can deport all 11 or millions of people and break up families — either way it will be harsh. But the logistics are complicated, and that is why we are looking at the military. Which is unfortunate that we are going to bring our military into something like this. And I assume the military will not be happy about it, and we will see how they are going to go about it. But the logistics are complicated. I think what's gonna happen is people — including children — are going to be put into conditions that are really horrendous, and we will have to monitor that, and challenge that as well."
Wallace then asked the attorney, "When you see that some red state governors are designating space for what may be a holding center — we don't know exactly what the space is — what sorts of things do you think people should not fail to imagine could be coming?"
The progressive lawyer said, "I think people plead to really understand that this is going to be horrendous. We're gonna be ripping people out of communities, the conditions are going to be horrendous, people will be sent to countries that maybe they never stepped foot in. There's not going to be screenings for people who may face torture or persecution. And one thing we talked about, Nicolle, is that when people hear about this, they think 'Well, this is not gonna affect our family or anyone we know.'"
Gelernt noted, "I can not tell you how many calls I have gotten, especially during the first term with Trump, saying, 'I did not know they were going to go after this person or that person — the custodian at my son's school, such a nice guy.' But if we're really talking about mass deportations, that is what we are talking about. We're not just hardened criminals and national security threats, we are talking about people who have been contributing to the economy, to society, for a long time. And I think it is not just a moral issue, it is going to be an economic one as well if we're decimating whole industries."
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