'Hole in his head': Trump official torn apart for stumbling answers during SCOTUS hearing
18 May
U.S. President Donald Trump speaks to members of the media aboard Air Force One, in Abu Dhabi, United Arab Emirates, May 16, 2025.
On Thursday morning, May 15, the U.S. Supreme Court held a hearing that examined the injunctions blocking President Donald Trump's executive order against birthright citizenship.
Trump' critics are attacking the order as unconstitutional, as birthright citizenship is protected by the U.S. Constitution's 14th Amendment. But Trump and his allies insist that lower federal court judges have no business blocking his orders.
MSNBC's Ana Cabrera, covering the hearing, pointed out that it wasn't really about birthright citizenship per se, but about lower federal courts' ability to issue universal injunctions blocking a president's executive orders.
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During the hearing, Solicitor General John Sauer was questioned by Amy Conway Barrett, Elena Kagan and other High Court justices. Conservative attorney George Conway weighed in on Barrett's questioning during a Saturday morning, May 17 appearance on MSNBC's "The Weekend" — and argued that Trump appointee Barrett made Trump ally Sauer look very bad.
Conway told the panel, "(Justice Barrett was) looking at John Sauer like he had a hole in his head. Like, you know, basically, she's asking: OK, let's say you lose the case. Are you going to obey it in the next case? And he's like: Well, generally. And basically, the answer is: We're going to do whatever the heck we want. And they realize that killing nationwide injunctions, killing universal injunctions at this moment in time is just the prescription for utter chaos and lawlessness."
Georgetown University law professor Michele Goodwin, also on the panel, warned that the U.S. will be facing a dire constitutional crisis if Trump is able to openly defy federal courts — including the U.S. Supreme Court — and fail to honor the role they play in the United States' system of checks and balances.
Goodwin told the panel, "This is the real concern that Americans worry about. What happens when Donald Trump says, I don't have to listen to the United States Supreme Court. So what, Justice Roberts? I don't care how many talks you give saying that the rule of law matters and that judges and justices need to have autonomy. I can do as I want because I'm Donald Trump."
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