MSNBC host Rachel Maddow joined her colleague Nicolle Wallace on Thursday afternoon to discuss the president-elect making good on his promise to appoint unqualified loyalists.

Maddow said it's time Americans "get real and realize this is really what we're up against."

She also believes that the absurd choices for Donald Trump's Cabinet are meant to shock people.

"It is meant to adjust our sense of what is normal, what is possible, and to sort of disorient us as to what it counts to propose governance in the United States that we're ready for the most radical pronouncements and actions," Maddow said. "And I do think we're supposed to feel the way we do right now. That's a part of it."

"It is a shock and awe campaign against American traditions and mores, and that's how most of the country feels about it," she said.

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Wallace recalled the Iraq War's "Shock and Awe" bombing campaign where they brought down the country in several months, but the war ended up being a decade-long "catastrophe."

"It doesn't signal he'll succeed in successfully demolishing American democracy," said Wallace. "It does mean that we as a press still every single time chase the shiny objects, and that's named Matt Gaetz, Tulsi Gabbard, and RFK Jr."

She called them the shiny objects that are "propelled by this hatred of the Democratic Party and the media elites and also a promise to deliver on the economy, on immigration, and the people in charge of those two things, one of them is an alleged child sex trafficker and the other by her own telling a dog killer. The competence is maybe where he gets sort of bolloxed up."

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