Columnist Jen Rubin recently interviewed writer E. Jean Carroll, who won $83.3 million from President Donald Trump in a defamation case. Carroll successfully argued before a jury that Trump damaged her reputation by calling her a liar after she accused him of assaulting her in a department store. A different jury awarded Carroll $5 million and found Trump responsible for sexually abusing Carroll and then defaming her by claiming she made it up.
In a recent podcast, Carroll described how Trump’s shifting, moody and sleepy personality entertained jurors throughout the trial he lost.
“The jury was absolutely petrified with delight,” Carroll told Rubin. “They watched every single snore. … Anything [Trump’s defense attorney] Alina Habba said to defend him went right out the window because they’re watching the guy … he’s slathered like Elizabeth I with heavy saffron-colored makeup, and his hair was a different style every day. One day it was Barbara Stanwyck in ‘Ball of Fire’, another day he’s that guy from ‘The Byrds’, another day he’s Marilyn Monroe in ‘Some like it Hot.’ One day he looked like an elderly gigolo.”
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“He had his many moods and his traumas, and to the jury it was better than any academy award performance you have ever seen,” Carroll said. “I’m real pleased that I beat him. If an old lady of 81 can beat him anyone can, right?”
Carroll was also quick to share opinions on attorney Alina Habba, who is currently serving as US attorney for the District of New Jersey.
“Alina Habba is extremely bright,” Carroll said. “She can read a room faster than anything. … Very beautiful, always exquisitely dressed, enormously arrogant and 100 percent confident.”
“—But didn’t know the first thing about law,” Carroll quickly added. “Not the first thing. Couldn’t do it, but she did what Donald Trump told her to do. I could hear almost everything he was saying to her. He belittled her. He grumbled. He actually hissed, spit, moaned and groaned to her. ‘Stand up, stand up, stand up!’ he kept telling her. She didn’t know why she was standing up, but she would stand up and defend the man as brilliantly as she could.”
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Trump is appealing the jury award, which is not going well. But Carroll said she planned to continue hitting Trump where it hurts.
"He loves money more than anything, and his ego is tied up with it. So, what would really p--- him off is giving $83 million of his dollars to everything he hates," Carroll said, adding that she has already set up a foundation to dedicate the money to women’s and immigrants' rights causes.
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