Bob Woodward: Trump’s 'failure to protect the people' showed he views 'democracy as enemy territory'
11 July 2023
Washington Post journalist Bob Woodward recently shared insight into his nearly 20 interviews with former President Donald Trump during the height of the COVID-19 pandemic between December 2019 and August 2020.
During his Tuesday, July 11, interview with MSNBC's Ari Melber, Woodward — who has interviewed several past presidents — shared his belief that Trump failed to "protect the people" as president.
The Beat with Ari Melber host shared a brief clip from his conversation with the Pulitzer-Prize-winning journalist via Twitter, in which Woodward says, "The problem with Trump is, I think he looks at democracy as enemy territory, to be quite frank. Because that's the people that's all about 'Oh, no, no, no, I know what I'm doing. And when you lay it all out, he did not know what he was doing."
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Woodward told Melber, "When I have information that I had from people who are doctors, people who are not partisan, people who want to address this national crisis...and I have access to the President of the United States — I'm going to say, 'This is what I'm learning and what are you doing?' And this is the tragedy — this is the sickness for the country — He says, 'Oh, there's light at the end of the tunnel, it's going to go away.' And anyone who knows anything about this knows it's not going away..."
He continued, "Now it's 1.1 million dying, and so we have this moment where the president can see the numbers and he's in kind of political and personal denial. And I once asked him, I said, 'What's the job of the president?' And he said, 'To protect the people.' I've never seen such failure to protect the people."
In January, Trump sued Woodward alleging the journalist "along with publishing company Simon & Schuster and parent company Paramount Global did not have the legal rights to use recordings from the interview for an audiobook, 'The Trump Tapes,' that was released in October 2022."
Watch Ari Melber's full interview with Woodward below or at this link.
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