'This court has explained ad nauseum': Frustrated judge admonishes Trump lawyers
31 October 2023
In addition to four criminal prosecutions, former President Donald Trump is facing a variety of civil lawsuits — including New York State Attorney General Letitia James' fraud case. James alleges that the Trump Organization seriously overstated the value of its real estate assets.
The bench trial in James' case continued on Tuesday, October 31, with Justice Arthur Engoron presiding. Engoron has agreed with James that Trump and his employees exaggerated those assets' value; now, it's a question of what type of sanctions the Trump Organization will face.
On October 31, Engoron made it clear to Trump's attorneys that "disgorgement" (forcing someone who illegally profited from a scheme to pay back those profits) is, in fact, an option in the case. When the defense said otherwise, Engoron was firm in his response.
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Engoron stressed, "For reasons this court has explained ad nauseam, that view is simply incorrect. Disgorgement is a clearly available remedy."
ABC News explains, "Trump attorney Chris Kise countered that the state has failed to prove that banks would have done anything differently had they known Trump's statements were fraudulent. Kise specifically cited the testimony of Deutsche Bank executive Nicholas Haigh, who testified that loaning money to Trump was a 'good credit decision.'"
Engoron remained skeptical of the defense's arguments.
The judge told Trump's attorneys, "Several witnesses have testified that they would have acted differently had they known the statements of financial condition were fraudulent. I think, to a certain extent, the defendants are whistling past the graveyard here."
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Read ABC News' full report at this link.