'Naive and reckless': Biographer exposes Jared and Ivanka's 'self-importance' — and how they infuriated the White House counsel

The latest revelations about Jared Kushner and Ivanka Trump's use of private email and messaging apps in the White House of is yet another example of how thoroughly unqualified President Donald Trump's son-in-law and daughter are for their current roles, said journalist Vicky Ward in conversation with Ari Melber on MSNBC's "The Beat" on Thursday — and of how they simply don't care about how sensitive White House business is.


"These are two people who are naive and reckless because they have an extraordinary sense of self-importance," said Ward. "They are extraordinarily unaware. They are disdainful of rules, they think that rules are for other people."

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Ward went on to emphasize the extremes to which Jared and Ivanka defied protocol just because they were too entitled and too unaware to know any better. "They kept wandering in and out of the meetings between the president and the president's lawyers ... they just didn't get it."

Former Watergate prosecutor Nick Akerman agreed, saying that "What you're describing, really, is the complete breakup of the attorney-client privilege that Donald Trump had with his lawyers."

"Yes!" said Ward. "And [former White House Counsel] Don McGahn, by the way, was just exasperated by it."

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