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Georgia Tries out the Bush War Doctrine, Loses Badly

By Gary Brecher, eXiled Online. Posted August 12, 2008.


The president of tiny Georgia must have caught a case of his pal Bush's war lust to attack a Russian ally and think he'd win.
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There are two basic facts to keep in mind about the smokin' little war in Ossetia:

1. The Georgians started it.
2. They lost.

If you want to get all serious and actually study up on Ossetia, North and South, and Georgia and the whole eternal gang war that they call the Caucasus, you can check out a column I did on that school-hostage splatter in Beslan, North Ossetia, a few years back.

South Ossetia is a little apple-shaped blob dangling from Russian territory down into Georgia, and most of it has been under control of South Ossetian irregulars backed by Russian "peacekeepers" for the last few years.

The Georgians didn't like that. You don't give up territory in that part of the world, ever. The Georgians have always been fierce people, good fighters, not the forgiving type. In fact, I can't resist a little bit of history here: remember when the Mongols wiped out Baghdad in 1258, the biggest slaughter in any of their conquests? Well, the most enthusiastic choppers and burners in the whole massacre were the Georgian Christian troops in Hulagu Khan's army. They wore out their hacking arms on those Baghdadi civilians. Nobody knows how many people were killed, but it was at least 200,000 -- a pretty big number in the days before antibiotics made life cheap.

So: hard people on every side in that part of the world. No quarter asked or given. No good guys. Especially not the Georgians. They have a rep as good people, one on one, but you don't want to mess with them, and you especially don't want to try to take land from them.

The Georgians bided their time, then went on the offensive, Caucasian style, by pretending to make peace and all the time planning a sneak attack on South Ossetia. They just signed a treaty granting autonomy to South Ossetia this week, and then they attacked. Georgian MLRS units barraged Tskhinvali, the capital city of South Ossetia; Georgian troops swarmed over Ossetian roadblocks; and all in all, it was a great, whiz-bang start, but like Petraeus asked about Iraq way back in 2003, what's the ending to this story? As in: How do you invade territory that the Russians have staked out for protection without thinking about how they'll react?

Georgian President Mikheil Saakashvili just didn't think it through. One reason he overplayed his hand is that he got lucky the last time he had to deal with a breakaway region: Ajara, a tiny little strip of Black Sea coast in southern Georgia. It declared itself an "autonomous" republic, preserving its sacred basket-weaving traditions or whatever. You just have to accept that people in the Caucasus are insane that way; they'd die to keep from saying hello to the people over the next hill, and they're never going to change. The Ajarans aren't even ethnically different from Georgians; they're Georgian too. But they claim difference by being Muslims. And being different means they have to have their own Lego parliament and Tonka-Toy army and all the rest of that crap, and their leader, a wack job named Abashidze, volunteered them to fight to the death for their independence. Except he was such a nut, and so corrupt, and the Ajarans were so similar to the Georgians, and their little "country" was so tiny and ridiculous, that for once sanity prevailed and the Ajarans refused to fight, let themselves get reabsorbed by that Colossus to the North, mighty Georgia.

Well, like I've said before, there's nothing as dangerous as victory. Makes people crazy. Saakashvili started thinking he could gobble up any secessionist region -- like, say, South Ossetia. But there are big differences he was forgetting -- like the fact that South Ossetia isn't Georgian, has a border with Russia, and is linked up with North Ossetia just across that border. The road from Russia to South Ossetia is pretty fragile as a line of supply; it goes through the Roki Tunnel, a mountain tunnel at an altitude of 10,000 feet. I have to wonder why the Georgian air force -- and it's a good one by all accounts -- didn't have as its first mission in the war the total zapping of the South Ossetian exit of that tunnel. Or if you don't trust the flyboys, send in your special forces with a few backpacks full of explosives. There are a lot of ways to cripple a tunnel. Hell, do it low-tech: Drive a fuel truck in there, with a car following, jackknife the truck halfway through with a remote control or timing fuse -- truck driver gets out and strolls to the car, one fast U-turn and you're out and back in Georgia, just in time to see a ball of flame erupt from the tunnel exit. And rebuilding a tunnel way up in the mountains is not an easy or a fast job. Sure, the Russians could resupply by air, but that's a much, much tougher job and would at least slow down the inevitable. Weird, then, that as far as I know the Georgians didn't even try to blast that tunnel. I don't go in for this kind of long-distance micromanaging of warfare, because there's usually a good reason on the ground for tactical decisions; it's the strategic decisions that are really crazy most of the time. But this one I just don't get.

Most likely the Georgians just thought the Russians wouldn't react. They were doing something they learned from Bush and Cheney: sticking to best-case scenarios, positive thinking. The Georgian plan was classic shock and awe with no hard, grown-up thinking about the long term. Their shiny new army would go in, zap the South Ossetians while they were on a peace hangover (the worst kind), and then, uh, they'd be welcomed as liberators? Sure, just like we were in Iraq. Man, you pay a price for believing in Bush. The Georgians did. They thought he'd help. And I just saw the little creep on TV, sitting in the stands watching the U.S.-China basketball game. I didn't even recognize Bush at first; I just wondered why they kept doing close-ups of this guy who looked like Hank Hill's legless dad up in the stands. Then they said it was the prez. They talk about people "growing in office"; well, he shrunk.

And the more he shrinks, the more you pay for believing in him. The Georgians were naive because they were so happy to get out from the Soviets, the Russians' old enemy, the United States, must be paradise. So they did their apple-polishing best to be the perfect, obedient little ally. Then we'd let them into NATO and carpet-bomb them with SUVs and iPods.

Their part of the deal was simple: They sent troops to Iraq. First a contingent of 850, then, surprisingly, 2,000 men. When you consider the population of Georgia is less than 5 million, that's a lot of troops. In fact, Georgia is the third-biggest contributor to the "Coalition of the Willing," after the United States and Britain.

You might be thinking, Wow, not a good time to have so many of your best troops in Iraq, huh? Well, that's true, and it goes for a lot of countries -- like us, for instance -- but at least we're not facing a Russian invasion. The Georgians are so panicked they just announced they're sending half their Iraqi force home, and could the USAF please give them a lift?

We'll probably give them a ride, but that's about all we can do. We've already done plenty, not because we love Georgians but to counterbalance the Russian influence down where the new oil pipeline is staked out. The biggest American aid project was the GTEP, "Georgia Train and Equip" project ($64 million). It featured 200 Special Forces instructors teaching fine Georgia boys all the lessons the U.S. Army has learned recently. Now here's the joke. We were stressing counterinsurgency skills: small-unit cohesion, marksmanship, intelligence. The idea was to keep Georgia safe from Chechens or other Muslim loonies infiltrating through the Pankisi Gorge in northeast Georgia. And we did a good job. The Georgian Army pacified the Pankisi in classic Green Beret style. The punch line is, the Georgians got so cocky from that success, and from their lovefest with the Bushies in D.C., that they thought they could take on anybody. What they're in the process of finding out is that a light-infantry counterinsurgency force like the one we gave them isn't much use when a gigantic Russian armored force has just rolled across your border.

The American military's response so far has been all talk, and pretty damn stupid talk at that. A Pentagon spokesperson called Russia's response "disproportionate." What the hell are they talking about? They've been watching too many cop shows. Cops have this doctrine of "minimum necessary force," not that they actually operate that way unless there are video cameras around. Armies never, ever had that policy, because it's a good way to get your troops killed needlessly. The whole idea in war is to fight as unfairly and disproportionately as possible. If you've got it, you use it.

If you want a translation, luckily I speak fluent Pentagon. So what "disproportionate" means is -- well, imagine that you're watching some little hanger-on who tags along with you get his ass whipped by a bully, and you say, "That's inappropriate!" I mean, instead of actually helping him. That's what "disproportionate" means from the Pentagon: "We're not going to lift a finger to help you, but hey, we're with you in spirit, little buddy!"

The quickest way to see who's winning in any war is to see who asks first for a ceasefire. And this time it was the Georgians. Once it was clear the Russians were going to back the South Ossetians, the war was over. Even Georgians were saying, "To fight Russia by ourselves is insane." Which means they thought Russia wouldn't back its allies. Not a bad bet; Russia has a long, unpredictable history of screwing its allies -- but not all the time. The Georgians should know better than anybody that once in a while, the Russians actually come through, because it was Russian troops who saved Georgia from a Persian invasion in 1805, at the battle of Zagam. Of course the Russians had let the Persians sack Tbilisi, Georgia's capital, just 10 years earlier without helping. That's the thing: The bastards are unpredictable. You can't even count on them to betray their friends (though it's the safer bet, most of the time, sort of like 6:5 odds).

This time, the Russians came through. For lots of reasons, starting with the fact that Bush is weak and they know it; that the United States is all tied up in that crap Iraq War; and most of all, because Kosovo just declared independence from Serbia, an old Russian ally. It's tit-for-tat time, with Kosovo as the tit and South Ossetia as the tat. The way Putin sees it, if we can mess with his allies and let little ethnic enclaves like Kosovo declare independence, then the Russians can do the same with our allies, especially naive, idiotic allies like Georgia. It's a pawn exchange, if that. If it signals anything bigger, it's the fact that the United States is weaker than it was 10 years ago and Russia is much, much stronger than it was in Yeltsin's time. But anybody with sense knew all that already.

Luckily, South Ossetia doesn't matter that much. I'm just being honest here. In a year, nobody will care much who runs that little glob of territory. What's more serious is that another, bigger and more strategic chunk of Georgia called Abkhazia, on the Black Sea, is taking the opportunity to boot out the last Georgian troops on its territory. Georgia may lose almost all its coastline, but then the Georgians were always an inland people anyway, living along river valleys, not great sailors.

Even so, the great Russian-Ossetian land grab will make great material for another few centuries of gloating, ballads, blood oaths, revenge and counter-grabs. In this part of the world, there's always something to avenge.

This is an adapted version of an essay by Brecher that appeared on eXiled online.

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just a thought
Posted by: Germanicus on Aug 12, 2008 1:01 AM   
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Enjoyed the article.

But has it occurred to anyone that it is highly unlikely that our best little ally this side of the Caucasus would have made this strategically disastrous move without a big ol' Texas thumbs up from W? Given that our intelligence services have complete freedom to operate there, they certainly would have been aware that something was up, if not providing direct assistance in the form of satellite intel.

No matter how you look at it, it is pretty damning.

Option 1 is that they were so incompetent that they were unaware that the Georgians were about to invade S. Ossetia and thus unable to dissuade them of the stupidity of the plan, in spite of our massive leverage there.

Option 2 (the likelier of the two) is that they were aware of, and probably abetted, the plan.

Hell, given the extent of the failure, you would almost think that this had come straight out of Rumsfeld's office.

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» Here's some motivation: Posted by: tommy_slothrop
Hmmmm
Posted by: progdem on Aug 12, 2008 1:57 AM   
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I would like a way to take this comment that doesn't make it racist filth:

"So: hard people on every side in that part of the world. No quarter asked or given. No good guys. Especially not the Georgians. They have a rep as good people, one on one, but you don't want to mess with them, and you especially don't want to try to take land from them."

Can anyone help me with that?

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» NPR spouts such filth Posted by: IntnsRed
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» RE: Hmmmm Posted by: Wacre
are you serious?
Posted by: kenhymes on Aug 12, 2008 3:23 AM   
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"that school hostage splatter?" This is why editors are still a good thing. Those were real people, real children, real families still grieving. Grow the fuck up, then come back and tell us what you may or may not know about international politics.

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» Irony/Hyperbole Posted by: edgar1
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Loved the article
Posted by: rhinojos on Aug 12, 2008 3:32 AM   
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You wouldn't know who the real bad guys were in this little gem of a little war, by the way the media mouthpieces are playing this up. The little bastards!

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» RE: Loved the article Posted by: penobscotdziekuje@yahoo.com
Good Article On a Complex Affair
Posted by: Mister_PsyOps on Aug 12, 2008 3:52 AM   
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There is more to the story, however.

Most people that follow the area know that the "President" stooge of Georgia was bankrolled into office by Obama "advisor" George Soros and enabled by Zbignew Brzezinski among other western ruling class flunkies and spooks. A real Fascist puppet show.

Take a look-see at "War of Lies - Russia Moves In"

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» Oh, the tangle webs we weave... Posted by: OldRedleg
» On Tangled Webs "we" Weave... Posted by: Mister_PsyOps
» For Low-Information Poster: Posted by: TruthBeTold
» For Low-Information Commenter: Posted by: OrwellMan
straighten that map!
Posted by: ebmeyer6w on Aug 12, 2008 4:21 AM   
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I think I finally understand what's going on. It sounds like what an old college teacher called "mapitis," the urge that national leaders feel to straighten borders and make things look neater on the map. Georgia got a bad case of it.

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» Maps are odd things. Posted by: andabottleof_rum
Set up and knock down by the Zio-cons!
Posted by: williameon on Aug 12, 2008 4:44 AM   
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Install a Puppet
Start a War
Absorb the Country
Zio-cons win again.
Look surprised!
One Fat Goat.

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A bit flippant, but.....
Posted by: xi_people on Aug 12, 2008 4:50 AM   
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The author does accurately summarize the situation, though some of the language and terms should have been cleaned up.

The only real issue now is how the US will respond to the up-coming Russian takeover of the oil pipeline (which pumps roughly a million barrels a day) running through Georgia. By doing so, Russia will have a virtual monopoly on the energy resources used by Europe.

US influence is slip-sliding away in so many ways.... Will the response be to confront Russia directly? That would, in all likelihood, involve nuclear weapons. Are we looking at the global endgame here?

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» RE: A bit flippant, but..... Posted by: tommy_slothrop
» US influence slip-sliding away Posted by: IntnsRed
» RE: A bit flippant, but..... Posted by: Scientz
Standard Ops
Posted by: Last Chance on Aug 12, 2008 5:08 AM   
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In order for war contractors to stay in business they must occasionally set their politicians to arranging a war, like in Iraq and Georgia; and in order for allied political bosses to stay on top they must occasionally set their soldiers to whacking each other to stay in practice and keep their robber barons fat cats happy, otherwise, the people might think they don't need their help and protection (!)

Logically, all communities should have local autonomy, but wanna-be war lords stir up ethnic hatred so they can have fun killing their "enemies" and parade their big prick egos for their submissive women to admire.

So where is the dis-United Nations's Wimpy Moon, pussy-footing around as usual, useless bureaucrat that he is?

Meanwhile, like Stalin, another little man with big ambitions is busy trying to rebuild the Russian Empire.

Mankind is an insane species and dick-headed for self-extinction.

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» No question about it, Posted by: Lloyd Drako
Remember when
Posted by: solrev on Aug 12, 2008 5:17 AM   
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A Pentagon spokesperson called Russia's response "disproportionate."
Remember when the world called Israel’s response "disproportionate", and the Bush babies said oh no.
Remember the Gulf of Tonkin incident, if you believe that Georgia was stupid enough to attack Russia with them sitting on Georgia’s border with heavy armor, I will give you this bridge I have in London. Thank God the rest of NATO was smart enough to send Georgia and the Bush babies packing. I guess the war on terror was wearing thin, the Bush babies had to create some fear in the American people and give them someone else to hate for awhile. Who better than the Russian nukes for getting the Americans mind off the economy before the election? The politics of death just keeps rolling along.

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» RE: emember when Posted by: Dboy
smarmy tone about civilian deaths? no thanks
Posted by: cafesombra on Aug 12, 2008 5:25 AM   
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The author's tone in this article drips so much ego and uncaring sarcasm in the first few lines, I decided for real news and responsible journalism about the situation in Georgia, I should turn to the New York Times. Who would have thought someone would have to turn to the Times in order to find a bit of compassion?

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Dictator Bush Syndrome
Posted by: GreyFoxThree on Aug 12, 2008 6:23 AM   
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Yup, no doubt about it. Dictator Bush Syndrome has spread. What were they thinking?

JT
Ultimate Anonymity

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Selling the Russians short
Posted by: OldRedleg on Aug 12, 2008 6:23 AM   
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The problem with blogs like yours is that too often you mix in a number of real factoids with just a bit too much personal opinion, and then manage to pass it off as real reporting.

You are probably right that the Georgians didn't expect the Russians to react to their little misadventure, or in the manner that they did, and the U.S. at least tacitly approved or ignored what they (the Georgians) were about to do.

However, you completely failed to mention that the Russians were quite obviously prepared, and probably hoping, the the Georgians would do something so foolish. The sheer weight and speed of the Russian response makes it quite evident that they were long prepared for such an event, perhaps even helped it to happen, and once again, our intelligence agencies failed to anticipate the entire scenario.

The Russians are not really as unpredictable as you opine. Just like every other country, ethnic group, or political entity, they will react in the manner that their powers to be deem most advantageous to them at the moment. Sometimes it is an immediate reaction based on sheer emotion or lack thereof, or it may be a highly calculated reaction based on events that may have been building for a period of time and could affect the near and/or long time future. The U.S. reaction to Iraq's invasion of Kuwait is a classic example of both.

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Reward
Posted by: uncleeddie on Aug 12, 2008 6:37 AM   
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That's the reward for the willing. First your military grows by 30 times, then you get to take on the Russians again to help your Neo Con western friends, then you get to DIE. Congratulations idiots.

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Georgia's most famous native son--Joe Stalin
Posted by: zooeyhall on Aug 12, 2008 6:39 AM   
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Just wanted to mention that Georgia has a pretty-well known native son. He was called Joseph Stalin.

But a great article with good insight on the history of the region.

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Russia
Posted by: Ryan on Aug 12, 2008 6:42 AM   
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Already had that power: it can control the flow of oil to Europe without to bother about Georgie

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» RE: Russia Posted by: Lloyd Drako
Georgia's most famous native son--Joe Stalin
Posted by: zooeyhall on Aug 12, 2008 6:43 AM   
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Just wanted to mention that Georgia has a pretty-well known native son. Maybe you've heard of him. His name was Joseph Stalin.

However, a great article that gives good insight to the history of the region. Thank you!

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Mac's ready
Posted by: QCao009 on Aug 12, 2008 7:04 AM   
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How do the MSP and Alternet miss Ready on Day 1, Experienced McBush's haranguing Russia-bashing? What is he gonna do? Attack Russia with the Sturgis Harley dudes ?

Mac must have been smoking too much gasoline fume that day !!! What a pandering idiot !!!

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Cruel Wars
Posted by: ceti on Aug 12, 2008 7:17 AM   
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The factoid about Georgia's role in the sack of Baghdad is interesting. 700 years later, Georgia and Mongolia send troops to join the "Coalition of the Willing" to sack Iraq all over again in another cruel war.

If you want more flippant, you got Arnold in Red Heat: Arnold takes on the Georgians

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ABOUT THE AUTHOR
Posted by: VZEQICVA on Aug 12, 2008 7:26 AM   
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So he did some reaseach and provided some info. That's what reporters do. Bravo. Where on earth did he find his obnoxious attitude. A war ought to be taken more seriously no matter where it is. Thanks, ANNA

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» Irony Posted by: edgar1
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» I totally agree Posted by: fanny666
ICE ICE Baby tells the entire story of how Oil caused these deaths..!
Posted by: TJColatrella on Aug 12, 2008 8:04 AM   
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The criminal manipulation of Oil on the Commodities and Futures Market contributed to these deaths and bloodshed and this conflict..and there will be others to come because of the deregulation and lack of any oversight and enforcement of these markets..

All this thanks to the Republican party...which now whines about drilling as if that would address the meteoric rise in Oil and Gas prices destroying our economy and destabilizing the world..!

These inflated artificial prices have emboldened and enriched Russia greatly underwriting this escapade on the part of the Russians, but also instigating along with our administration and or their lobbyists and Oil Futures traders to do this on the part of Georgia attacking South Ossetia..!

Go to Ice Ice Baby the Star Telegram May of 2008 by Ed Wallace it is the best article a 2 part series on the manipulation and deregulation of the Oil and Commodities Market..!

Here's the URLs

http://www.star-telegram.com/ed_wallace/story/651928

Part II

http://www.star-telegram.com/ed-wallace/story/659081

This is the best most detailed article I have yet found on these out of control markets..in the clutches of criminals such as those at Goldman Sachs and Morgan Stanley..as well as the ICE market and in Dubai..

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our oil-thirsty military
Posted by: WolfieSense on Aug 12, 2008 8:09 AM   
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perfect little storm concocted! Cheney was having a hard time finding real estate around the Caspian to set another US military base. Luring the Georgian mafiosos and egging them on was perfect! the DoD can't afford to let LUKOIL or the Chinese control that oil spigot!

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» RE: our oil-thirsty military Posted by: EncinoM
Better Get Used to it!
Posted by: Godfather89 on Aug 12, 2008 9:17 AM   
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I like this conflict in that:

The US was not invovled in it! Our military is used to going everything to help quell fighting. But we did not go and the conflict was resolved by those who could actually resolve it, thank god we couldnt do anything about it.

Reasons:
- Georgia is helping us in Iraq, so we cant fight them.
- Russia is a superpower so to fight them would be insanity
- Our military is over-extended so even if we wanted to it would hurt us more so than help us.

All of this makes US Involvement null and void, for once, so get used to it America! Let this be proof that peace can still come about even without US fighting.

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Georgia On My Mind
Posted by: penobscotdziekuje@yahoo.com on Aug 12, 2008 9:25 AM   
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Well Georgia's in the news again, but for the wrong reasons. Here during the Olympics, while the world cheers its athletes we're sidetracked by a pro-American proxy, Georgia, invading a tiny speck of earth called South Ossetia, and for what? Oil? Revenge?
I just heard it on TV, MSNBC, tells us. Ja, folks, oil is involved. A major oil pipeline (British Petroleum) was closed due to the violence in that mountainous republic.
So there you have it. OIL! Many of us could care less about South Ossetia. The (American) press is making Russia look like the bad guy. It's like we've reverted back to anti-Soviet rhetoric from the 50s, telling Russia to get out.
Just what it is our role in this flareup? Our response? We can't do much. The Bush camp can only sit back and wonder what to do about Iraq and Afghanistan. Rice, McCain, et al. all have said lots of jive but can't do a thing.
We're the last ones to talk about invading a sovereign nation. We're still in Iraq and they would like a cease fire, do you think, Bush?
One option is out: there is no way we're sending in the Marines to "defend" Georgia. The Georgian army already threw in the towel. Oh, yes, they underestimated Russia and I side with Russia on this one. Georgia will think twice before undertaking anymore military expeditions.
If this was a wrestling tag team match, the United States will not make a tag to relieve their little pal from taking a beating.

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» Fact Check Posted by: EncinoM
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» RE: To make it clearer to readers: Posted by: penobscotdziekuje@yahoo.com
» RE: Fact Check Posted by: EncinoM
Never believe the West
Posted by: Hans B on Aug 12, 2008 9:26 AM   
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Wonderful article, though I can well imagine people getting pissed at its overly ironic phrasing. But I would argue that it's not just the Bush doctrine, and it's not just primitive local passion either. East Europeans have a disconcerting way of believing the promises made to them by the West, despite a near 100% record of betrayal.

France and the UK allying themselves with Poland, then standing by as the Nazis and Soviets divide up the country in 1939.

The Dutch promising Bosnian refugees that they'd be safe in Srebrenica.

Bill Clinton promising the Russians that if they'd accept NATO membership of former Warsaw-Pact countries like Poland, NATO would refrain from expanding into parts of the former Soviet Union.

George Bush pushing for NATO membership of Georgia and promising the Georgians who-knows-what in exchange for them joining the "coalition of the dwindling" in Iraq.

Advice to East Europeans: don't ever base your policies on assurances given to you by the West. Those assurances aren't worth the paper they're printed on.

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disproportionate=illegal, doofus
Posted by: leafsong1 on Aug 12, 2008 9:30 AM   
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That's what the Pentagon was saying, that the Russians were committing aggressive war. Apparently, the author thinks of the US invasion of Iraq as a legitimate use of force. Consequently, the irony of a war criminal decrying war crimes was lost on him. He says the Georgians invaded, which is only arguably true since they sent troops into a part (arguably) of their own country, but it would be more accurate to say that their defensive action against Russian covert activities was disproportionate, and so, illegal.

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Russia Drills For Oil While America Sleeps
Posted by: theVRWCwhodatesLiberals on Aug 12, 2008 9:48 AM   
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However the left is busy being snarky... great! Well thanks for nothing.

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» TROLLwhodateshimself Posted by: leighsure
Another Vatican directed smokescreen for the gullible...
Posted by: SevenStarHand on Aug 12, 2008 10:40 AM   
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This whole affair is a purposely orchestrated theatrical production. How convenient is it that the Bush Administration trained and prepped Georgia and then US trainers pull out just before they initiate an apparent blunder that the Russians have been ready and poised to respond to, for months. It goes without saying that all sides in this strange little war have something up their sleeves that most people have no clues about. All the pieces were placed on the board before major world leaders went off to the Olympics, pretending to be surprised, and pretending to be mad at one another afterwards.

It is amazing how easily duped the sheeple of this world are. Keep them stupid and enslaved to money and they are easily herded to the slaughter. The poor people of Georgia and the soldiers on all sides of this and other conflicts are mere pawns to the whims of those slithering in the shadows. This little production has been planned for some time to coincide with the Olympics, but that was such a poor cover that it should be obvious that something else is afoot. And how convenient is it that the Olympics are on 8/8/08?

The timing of 8/8/08 links this to the same gang that pulled off 9/11 (and many other events) with its blatantly obvious numerology. Contemplate Machiavelli and Mystery Babylon, since they both point to the same gang of liars.

Time to get a clue and help stop this gang of evil halfwits, before its too late...

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wow
Posted by: HomelandColors on Aug 12, 2008 11:43 AM   
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This is the most obnoxious article I’ve read in quite some time. I'm glad you know the history of the region but your analysis reeks of self satisfaction. Russia has dismantled its own democracy and is now trying to dismantle Georgia's. Just because Bush is a jerk who got along with Georgia doesn't mean the small country deserves to become a vassal of Putin's Russia. If you have been paying attention you know how hard they have worked to become a Democratic nation and your writing shows a contempt for those efforts.

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Russia is merely following PNAC/McCain policy
Posted by: HughScott on Aug 12, 2008 12:22 PM   
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A new acronym for PNAC: Perpetuate Nazi-style Attacks on Civilians.

For freedom-loving American who don't know what PNAC really means, it stands for Project for a New American Century -- a rightwing extremist organization formed in 1997 with the intent of overthrowing Saddam Hussein and dominating the world with U.S. military power.

Not surprisingly, Sen. McCain -- America's NUMBER ONE NEOCON -- is a PNAC member (signatory).

Prior to joining the PNAC conspiracy, he was president of the New Citizenship Project (NCP). Founded in 1994 by PNAC organizer Bill Kristol, NCP was PNAC's parent and chief fundraising arm.

In 1998, McCain co-sponsored the Iraq Liberation Act. Drafted by PNAC, it decreed "regime change" in Iraq to be U.S. policy. To that end, the act appropriated $97 million in U.S. military aid for the Iraqi National Congress (INC) -- a group of anti-Hussein Iraqi militants whose purpose was to instigate a national uprising in Iraq.

In 2002, McCain was co-chair with Sen. Joe Lieberman of the White House-based Committee for the Liberation of Iraq (CLI). Established by PNAC, CLI continued to finance INC with millions of taxpayer dollars until shortly after the U.S. invasion of Iraq, when CLI was disbanded.

Finally, in 2004, McCain officially became a PNAC member by signing a letter from Bill Kristol's organization that ironically condemned Russian President Putin’s foreign policy for its return to the “rhetoric of militarism and empire.”

Given McCain's unbending rightwing ideology, it should come as no surprise that many of the old PNAC guard have become foreign policy advisors in his 2008 presidential campaign, such as the following prominent neocons -- potential members of McCain's future war council:

Richard L. Armitage: PNAC signatory, former Bush 43 Deputy Secretary of State. By his own admission, Armitage was responsible for leaking CIA agent Valerie Plame's CIA identity to the press.

John R. Bolton: PNAC signatory, former U.S. ambassador to U.N.

Max Boot: PNAC signatory, columnist, GOP speech writer. Said McCain's "bellicose aura" could "scare the snot out of our enemies," who "would be more afraid to mess with him" than with other then-potential presidential candidates.

Steve Forbes: PNAC founder, flat-tax fanatic

Robert Kagan: PNAC founder.

William Kristol: PNAC founder and editor of the rightwing magazine, Weekly Standard.

Daniel McKivergan: PNAC deputy director

Randy Scheunemann: PNAC signatory, co-director and executive director of Committee for Liberation of Iraq.

Gary Schmitt: PNAC signatory, AEI Research Fellow. Claims the Constitution "created a unitary chief executive who could, in times of war or emergency, act with the decisiveness, dispatch and, yes, secrecy, needed to protect the country and its citizens."

James Woolsey: PNAC signatory, Director of the CIA, 1993-1995.

Robert B. Zollick: PNAC signatory, President, World Bank.

PNAC has disbanded and pulled down its Web site but the subversive organization's imperial mission of "changing the world with American military might" (a Max Boot quote) continues with more vigor than ever, thanks in part to the so-called "success" of McCain's Iraq surge.

With love,

*Hugh E. Scott, Vietnam vet, lifelong registered Republican and ardent Obama supporter.
Seven Reasons to Vote Against Unfit McCain

*For the benefit of first-time AlterNet visitors.

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» Russia is doing no such thing. Posted by: Illiteratilumen
» Hey Hugh... Posted by: Illiteratilumen
Armenia?
Posted by: mik on Aug 12, 2008 2:00 PM   
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At least we know that the US will probably not help Azerbaijan should they attack Artsakh - and Russia might even help the two Armenian nations! Georgia can be a great country - it has great people and great scenery, but at the moment a ludicrous government that has sadly miscalculated its friendship with the US.
Whatever the rights or wrongs of the Abkhazian war in the 90's, the fact remains that Georgia will never again take Abkhazia - as Azerbaijan will never have Artsakh and Armenia will never have Nakidjevan (=1st caravanserai, in Armenian)
Let's get real - the past is gone, things won't change, and one day these territories are going to be where they want - with the will of their population, whether we like it or not.
Let's accept realities so the financial stregth of the Caucasus nations can match the mental ability and intellegence that their people undoubtedly have.

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Is it really that simple?
Posted by: daniel1982 on Aug 12, 2008 4:35 PM   
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First of all, good job with a historical reference about the character of Georgians. Clearly the Georgian of 2008 are responsible for the actions of Georgians of 1258.

Anyway, the presidents of Poland, Ukraine, Lithuania, Latvia and Estonia have arrived in Tbilisi to stand in solidarity with Georgia. What do they know that you don't? I just don't think that it's as simple as "Russia is right, Georgia is wrong", especially given the way Russia has bullied Ukraine and Estonia in recent years and the vindictive way it acted towards Poland. I just wouldn't trust Russia and their de-facto dictator, Putin.

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hackbut
Posted by: hackbut on Aug 12, 2008 4:58 PM   
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As usual Bush does the opposite of what intelligent person would do, but the explanation is always oil. The Georgians attacked and killed Russian citizens and so the big guy appropriately kicked their butt.

Plus if one has to choose between the Russians and Georgians you can choose between the people who gave us Tchaikovsky and Solznehsitzyn and those who gave us Stalin and many of the criminals in Moscow, even today.

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Putin still in charge-still KGB
Posted by: Romans1 on Aug 12, 2008 5:22 PM   
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Putin is the dictator of Russia, soon to be the reborn Soviet Union. He is a threat to the world. For you guys to defend and admire him says alot.

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» RE: Putin still in charge-still KGB Posted by: BrianOfNairobi
A Mere Dress Rehearsal....
Posted by: BrianOfNairobi on Aug 12, 2008 5:29 PM   
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... before the main event.

The main event being the Israel/US attack on Iran.

The fool that is the president of Georgia was but the far from sharp instrument of Israel/US to test the resolve of the Russian Federation in the event of an attack... on Iran.

The Russian reply was most definetly a slap on the chops for the Zionist warmongers in the US and Israel.

Russia has warned the arrogant Zionist warmongers that it will not sit on its laurels when the Neanderthals finally let loose their fire-power on Iran.

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racist, childish, offensive
Posted by: Mattmeetsworld on Aug 12, 2008 6:11 PM   
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I can't believe Alternet printed this article

The way it stereotypes all Caucasus peoples is so offensive and racist.

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Bad move Pop-Tart......
Posted by: jeffrey7 on Aug 12, 2008 6:45 PM   
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Georgia...get real!!! You don't have wealthy friends that could bankroll you're war amchine like George. You don't have a buffaloed House and Senate like George does,and you have'nt got your head up Putin's ass,like George does.
In fact George would'nt have been able to get this Iraq thing on unless he had major money contributers. Thanks China and Japan,their governments anyway. I don't believe if it was put to their citizens their people would have agreed to give the money to Bush.
That's the problem with force. There's always going to be someone that get's back at you for it. Someone kills someone and their family kills back,it's self perpetuating hate and misery and someplace,somewhere there's a people that saying 'This shit stops here!!!"
It would be nice if the G8 would be the ones to stop the killing,there's only 8 of them but they have a lot of guns. History shows us,if you got a cannon some day you're going to find a way to use it. The same is true with all the killing toys. It's time to grow up and put these childish toys away....for good!!!
Control by invasion has worked out so well for us. Lots of dead folks,burned out buildings
and a new McDonalds next to a bombed mosque. I just can't understand why more folks are'nt trying it!! Oh yeah, I forgot,the rest of the World is full of Humans and True Humans don't need to kill eachother to make a point.

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All planned and here is why
Posted by: iyamwutiam on Aug 12, 2008 7:30 PM   
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Georgia's increasing dissatisfaction with Sashkavilli, the failed vote on admitting Georgia to NATO-and by extension Ukraine- and the imperative of the US to maintain as much of a dollar hegemony to monopolize global energy was the objective. This was basically planned after Iran/Russia started makig noise about moving away from selling Natural gas and oil in currences other than the US dollar.

As the author rightly points out - it is mind-boggling that in a Blitzgreig type attack they did NOT attack the one tunnel where re-inforcements would come from with in a matter of hours.

Plan is:
Provke response by heinous and treachorous attack on a province of 70K people. Disperse people and de-populate S. Ossetia (we all know they are not coming back), provoke response -cry the "Russians are coming". US/France etc come to aid by propaganda and cease fire operation. Russians demonized to international community (read Latvia/Ukraine/Poland etc) - all given express pass into NATO- Russia further isolated.

Sashakavilli paid millions to kill his own people and retires in France/US a very very rch exile. Georgia/Ukraine/Poland/Latvia etc in one fell swoop rush to join NATO and plan completed.

Now the independence of Russia from the International monetary system is fully de-railed as it needs money from increased revenue of OIL and Natural gas to safeguard several fronts militarily- hence delating or derailing completely any intention of Russia to move oil/gas sales away from dollar/Euro etc. Mission accomplished- dollar hegemony lives another decade!! A master stroke done with finesse.

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And what about Ukraine?
Posted by: anambrose on Aug 12, 2008 8:10 PM   
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So the guns rockets mortars and bombs stop and the units move back behind the lines of their starting points. Do you think the Russians will set up a trap like the one this Georgian leader just walked into as a prologue to retake the Ukraine? Was this a test to see how coordinated the message, counter strategy, and
reaction of the US and EU would be to this fait accompli in Georgia would be?

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Never trust the US or any government. Big mistake! Just ask the Kurds in 1991.
Posted by: humanity101 on Aug 12, 2008 10:24 PM   
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Neocons eat sh*t. They think they can start a war anywhere anytime they want. I'd like to see them bomb Russia. All freaking talk; no show. There's nothing they can do. The Russians can return the favor by supporting the Talibans and provide Iran the know-hows on nukes and the world will be a hell hole. Those idiotic neocons need to just shut the hell up. They are so freaking stupid just like their little Bushie Sakasvilli. Think, you freaking idiots, before you act or even open your damn mouth or you'll f**k up the world for us all.

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Russia still on the offensive-AP story
Posted by: Romans1 on Aug 13, 2008 5:41 AM   
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Published - Aug 13 2008 08:00AM EDT | AP
"An Associated Press reporter has seen a convoy of several dozen Russian military trucks and armored vehicles heading out of a key city deeper into Georgia.

The development comes after a French-brokered truce which obliged Russia to withdraw its troops to positions they held before the conflict in the breakaway province of South Ossetia.

An AP reporter outside the city of Gori saw the convoy speeding past and heading south. And Georgia's Security Council chief says Russians bombed and looted Gori on Wednesday."

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Georgians in Russia
Posted by: davmills on Aug 13, 2008 10:18 AM   
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Many Georgians work in Russian cities, and have been harassed by Russian authorities as relations between the two states have worsened. While the above article is basically accurate, I hope the Russian people, and their authorities, do not allow this minority to be further harassed due to the conflict--which doesn't have a real winner (South Ossetia is a de facto puppet state, without actual independence).

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Russian newspaper Pravda tells Bush to Shut Up
Posted by: fanny666 on Aug 13, 2008 11:29 AM   
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Russian newspaper Pravda tells Bush to Shut Up

A sample:

"President Bush,

Why don’t you shut up? Do you really think anyone gives any importance whatsoever to your words after 8 years of your criminal and murderous regime and policies? Do you really believe you have any moral ground whatsoever and do you really imagine there is a single human being anywhere on this planet who does not stick up his middle finger every time you appear on a TV screen? Kinda makes ya’ll think, eh?

Do you really believe you have the right to give any opinion or advice after Abu Ghraib? After Guantanamo? After the massacre of hundreds of thousands of Iraqi citizens? After the torture by CIA operatives? Kinda difficult, eh?"

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Side Effects
Posted by: kackermann on Aug 14, 2008 2:31 AM   
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The big thing is which country will host the vaunted missile shield now? I vote for None Of The Above because that country stands a pretty fair chance of their cities catching fire like parts of Georgia.

This attack showed the world that not only is the US a malevolent nation, but one now incapable of standing up for a 'friend' in need. Not that it should have in this case, but there was an expectation.

Our complete inability to do anything is going to tighten the admissions requirements for NATO membership. Had Georgia been a member of NATO, there would have been an obligation to fight Russia. Since the US was not about to fly all its troops out of Iraq to do that, it would have left Europe to do the heavy lifting. Do you think NATO wants some piss-ant country full of morons dragging it into a possibly serious conflict against a nation who is pretty much immune to the price of oil?

I think not.

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