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Afghanistan: The Other Illegal War

By Marjorie Cohn, AlterNet. Posted August 1, 2008.


The U.S. invasion of Afghanistan was every bit as illegal as the invasion of Iraq. Why, then, do so many Americans see it as justifiable?
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So far, President Bush's plan to maintain a permanent U.S. military presence in Iraq has been stymied by resistance from the Iraqi government. Barack Obama's timetable for withdrawal of American troops evidently has the backing of Iraqi Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki, Bush has mentioned a "time horizon," and John McCain has waffled. Yet Obama favors leaving between 35,000 and 80,000 U.S. occupation troops there indefinitely to train Iraqi security forces and carry out "counterinsurgency operations." That would not end the occupation. We must call for bringing home -- not redeploying -- all U.S. troops and mercenaries, closing all U.S. military bases and relinquishing all efforts to control Iraqi oil.

In light of stepped-up violence in Afghanistan, and for political reasons -- following Obama's lead -- Bush will be moving troops from Iraq to Afghanistan. Although the U.S. invasion of Afghanistan was as illegal as the invasion of Iraq, many Americans see it as a justifiable response to the attacks of Sept. 11, 2001, and the casualties in that war have been lower than those in Iraq -- so far. Practically no one in the United States is currently questioning the legality or propriety of U.S. military involvement in Afghanistan. The cover of Time magazine calls it "The Right War."

The U.N. Charter provides that all member states must settle their international disputes by peaceful means, and no nation can use military force except in self-defense or when authorized by the Security Council. After the 9/11 attacks, the council passed two resolutions, neither of which authorized the use of military force in Afghanistan. Resolutions 1368 and 1373 condemned the Sept. 11 attacks and ordered the freezing of assets; the criminalizing of terrorist activity; the prevention of the commission of and support for terrorist attacks; and the taking of necessary steps to prevent the commission of terrorist activity, including the sharing of information. In addition, it urged ratification and enforcement of the international conventions against terrorism.

The invasion of Afghanistan was not legitimate self-defense under article 51 of the charter because the attacks on Sept. 11 were criminal attacks, not "armed attacks" by another country. Afghanistan did not attack the United States. In fact, 15 of the 19 hijackers came from Saudi Arabia. Furthermore, there was not an imminent threat of an armed attack on the United States after Sept. 11, or Bush would not have waited three weeks before initiating his October 2001 bombing campaign. The necessity for self-defense must be "instant, overwhelming, leaving no choice of means, and no moment for deliberation." This classic principle of self-defense in international law has been affirmed by the Nuremberg Tribunal and the U.N. General Assembly.

Bush's justification for attacking Afghanistan was that it was harboring Osama bin Laden and training terrorists. Iranians could have made the same argument to attack the United States after they overthrew the vicious Shah Reza Pahlavi in 1979 and he was given safe haven in the United States. The people in Latin American countries whose dictators were trained in torture techniques at the School of the Americas could likewise have attacked the torture training facility in Fort Benning, Ga., under that specious rationale. Those who conspired to hijack airplanes and kill thousands of people on 9/11 are guilty of crimes against humanity. They must be identified and brought to justice in accordance with the law. But retaliation by invading Afghanistan is not the answer and will only lead to the deaths of more of our troops and Afghans.

The hatred that fueled 19 people to blow themselves up and take 3,000 innocents with them has its genesis in a history of the U.S. government's exploitation of people in oil-rich nations around the world. Bush accused the terrorists of targeting our freedom and democracy. But it was not the Statue of Liberty that was attacked. It was the World Trade Center, the symbol of the U.S.-led global economic system; and the Pentagon, the heart of the U.S. military, that took the hits. Those who committed these heinous crimes were attacking American foreign policy. That policy has resulted in the deaths of 2 million Iraqis -- from both Bill Clinton's punishing sanctions and George W. Bush's war. It has led to uncritical support of Israel's brutal occupation of Palestinian lands, and it has stationed more than 700 U.S. military bases in foreign countries.


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Marjorie Cohn is a professor at Thomas Jefferson School of Law, president of the National Lawyers Guild, and the U.S. representative to the executive committee of the American Association of Jurists.

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Kudos to Prof. Cohn
Posted by: Col. Jackleg on Aug 1, 2008 1:58 AM   
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She is absolutely spot on in her legal and political analysis and commentary regarding the 9/11 responses. Just imagine what this type of leadership could do to establish a foreign policy laden with dignity, purpose and likelihood of acceptance worldwide. There's a helluva lot more security in meaningful diplomacy and international accountability and we have no better example than the Cuban missile crisis under JFK. Today's neocons would have launched a nuclear holocaust in Cuba and it would have evoked an unthinkable Russian response. On 11/22/63 this nation lost its brains and relevance to a "pristine bullet" and we have been dealt the loser's hand of Nixon, Ford, Reagan, Bush-1, Clinton, and the craven lunatic Bush-2. God save us from Obama and McCain, neither of whom offers any hope for reversal and improvement. Both should enrol for post-grad courses taught by Prof. Cohn.

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Right to self-defense
Posted by: carbon-based on Aug 1, 2008 2:49 AM   
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I think the one thing missing here is that a country has a right to defend itself. The Taliban was supporting Al Qaeda therefore it was in our defense to take them both out.

As for Iraq, big mistake on a number of levels from day 1. Even if they had WMD, Iran was breathing down their necks. We could have blockaded them once Afghanistan was secured, if ever.

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What does al Qaeda and Taliban have in common????????????
Posted by: Turiye on Aug 1, 2008 3:50 AM   
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That would be The Imperial Presidency of George W. Bush. My 19 year old is still in Turkey, a fundamentalist group that wants a governing Party in Turkey just blew up 2 bombs 1 1/2 miles from my child. WHY, BECAUSE. Blame it on the House of Saud, it can and will happen anywhere, anytime for any reason.

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s,dog7
Posted by: scottryan1 on Aug 1, 2008 4:02 AM   
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The Iraq war and Afghanistan war are not illegal,, what is illegal is that they have not attacked countries that are full evil, like Zimbabwe.
Any countries with a dictator that kills his people or makes million starve to death, should be invaded.
If it was not for Afghanistan war, I would say they only attack countries with oil / money, so you can not say they only went to war for a benefit////
Which they probably did, but they went to Afghanistan, knowing that they would never get any money / cheap oil back, but would have to help them once they won the war,// with money.



Obama says he will remove between 35,000 troops to 80,000 troops, that is a joke,, the difference between 35,000 and 80,00 is massive, he has no idea.
The surge of troops in Iraq that was the first step to wining the Iraq war, had 20,000 to 30,000 thousand troops, look at what that did, to say you would leave 35,000 to 80,000 troops, teals me he has no idea what he is talking about, the difference between the 2 is 45,000 troops, that’s massive, and would be a double surge in Iraq,, that would off done 3 times as much.
To say them kind of number apart is a joke, he has no idea what is going on or what works, even to say 35,000 to 80,000 troops, Means he has not even looked at the evidence or into it properly, but for public opinion has said he will remove up to 100,000 thousand troops, to get public opinion and win the election.

With bush saying he wants a permanent U.S. military presence in Iraq, is wrong, but that’s not what he means.
He is saying America can not leave ireaq for a long time.
If America left Iraq now, like obama wants to, do you think they will stay a democracy I don’t,
Al-maillik would try be the next saddam.
America needs to stay in Iraq for at least 20-30 years, to see people come and go from government,, to see far elections.
If they left now it would be very bad and would be a wast of 4,130 Americans life’s.
You can not just leave Iraq with a man who has just got control of his troops and think it will stay them same.
don’t you find it funny that al-malillk wants all American troops out now, that is not a concept for democracy,, that teals me he should be replaced ASAP.
The problem is Muslim law, it is like law back in Britain in the medieval day.
Kill, kill hand evil. Girls have to where tops over there faces.
Its like they are using law from some pin dick from 1,000 years ago, that hate woman.
It’s like that lady that tolled the kids in hear Muslim class in a Muslim country to name a bear toy, and they picked some think like Mohamed, they wanted to hand her over that.
that says it all about there laws, in Dubai, you can not holed hand or kiss in public, what is up with that, did the people that made the laws 1,000 years ago, have a pin dick or what, hated woman big time, wear shit over you face,, what the.
If Iraq is to work, they will have to start to change half of there laws.

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FMA in Massachusetts
Posted by: FMABBI on Aug 1, 2008 4:11 AM   
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This article should be read out loud by every TV and radio newscaster and quoted word for word in every newspaper in America. It's common sense and truthful. But for some reason we in America are only fed propaganda and "horse race" bullsh-t that they call "news". Shame on us - because we buy it.

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» How about printing it Posted by: robbie.seal
ORGANIZED CRIME AT ITS BEST. AIPAC, CONGRESS ETC.
Posted by: ElRoy60 on Aug 1, 2008 4:30 AM   
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ANY DOUBT AS TO WHO IS THE CONNECTION
HERE IN THE STATES:
KEEP UP THE INVESTIGATIONS, BUT WHO WILL BE LEFT TO PROSECUTE THE CRIMES COMMITED.

Israel's Olmert to resign over corruption investigation 30 Jul 2008 Embattled Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert announced Wednesday that he'll resign as prime minister in September, setting the stage for a successor to take over as early as the following month. Olmert made it clear that he was reluctantly stepping aside because a deepening political corruption investigation was making it increasingly difficult for him to serve effectively. The timing of his resignation is keyed to a meeting of his ruling Kadima party, which will choose a new leader in mid- or late September.

Pentagon study says Bush's "war on terror" off target --The study calls for "fundamental rethinking of U.S. strategy" to focus on minimizing overt military action and increasing intelligence collection and partnerships with law enforcement agencies around the world. 31 Jul 2008 A Pentagon-commissioned study published Wednesday said the Bush administration's 7-year-old war-on-terror is off target.


Do you remember how the politicians and media pundits reassured us that 911
was not going to, nor would they allow it to affect our lives, and standard of
living.

Yet now FEAR has been used to strip us of our constitutional rights, and the
moral values & ethics we had always stood for in the past.

Who should be held accountable? Go to imeachbush.org.

Support Obama, changing how things are done or not done in Washington.

Take our country back. Screen all on both sides of the isle.

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TOTAL BULLSHIT
Posted by: HughScott on Aug 1, 2008 5:09 AM   
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Cohen writes, "The invasion of Afghanistan was not legitimate self-defense under article 51 of the charter because the attacks on Sept. 11 were criminal attacks, not 'armed attacks' by another country.

Using her reasoning, if Al Qaida established training camps below our southern border that were protected by the Mexican government and the terrorists began attacking our railroad system, we could not take any defensive action -- like invading Mexico and eliminating the camps.

After two combat support tours in Southeast Asia (1965 - 1966), I became a Vietnam War protestor. Now I'm against the Iraq War as well, but Cohen is full of crap. We had every right to invade Afghanistan. In fact, Bush (whom I despise) warned the Taliban government to quit protecting Bin Laden's boys or face the consequences but it refused.

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Should have never Put boots down in M.E.
Posted by: Purple Girl on Aug 1, 2008 5:40 AM   
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As soon as I heard We invaded Afghanistan I told my husband a major cluster Fuck was under way.We should have just bombed the camps- what I considered the 'going away to college' for terrorists. I also felt then, and now, the opportunity to bring US to them would afford the chance to surround and attack more easily- in concert withthose from other countries who are sympathetic to the Con being played by their 'leaders'
Let be realistic those who have oppressed and committed real rimes against the Middle Easterners are their OWN upper Caste- The Oil Royals.Granted the Western Oil Corps have worked hand & Hand with them- but are not the Root of their Ills.
As far as I am concerned citizens of th US and the Middle east are being used in the 'Through Chaos comes Order' stratedgy. Binny is just as much as a Con man as Bush.A propped up Front man for both the Oil royals and their confederates in the Oil Industry.Afghanistan was just the chance to get their plan under way- to seize Iraq's oil fields, then work towards seizing Irans.It is not escaped many Americans realization that Saudi Arabia is where the majority of 'terrorist' were born & Raised, but yet they have not been 'invaded' nor even held accountable for the ideology which encouraged their 'antionals' to seek higher training at the Afghani vocational College Camp(us).
If not a direct intentional tactic by the Oils- 9/11 was a result of this alliance of Royals & Corps and the deception of Bin Laden as to want and Who He really is helping. Both Binny & Bush have Conned average citizens into this 'War on Terror', and I have no Doubt they , their families and their Associates are the only ones benefiting from this Charade, While average people are being sent to slaughter under the delusion they are fighting for an 'Honorablre Cause'.
This is a psuedo conflict which has been engineered and managed by those who benefit by not only increased profits- but also by increasing their strangle hold (Power) over humanity because they control a necessary resource- energy, which effects food prices and economic stablity and influence Globally.
I do NOT fear the Fable of the 'Man in th eCave' I fear those he and Bush have proven they work for.

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» Already tried Posted by: robbie.seal
Small Detail?
Posted by: djnoll on Aug 1, 2008 6:07 AM   
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We are not the only nation in Afghanistan. It was a joint NATO operation that included troops from every nation that lost civilians in the 9/11 attacks and our allies, as well as theirs. A joint UN resolution was passed authorizing the attack on Afghanistan when it refused to surrender Bin Laden and cohorts. We are currently not the only troops in Afghanistan and until Bin Laden and company are brought to justice, I seriously doubt if the other nations who have been the lead troops there for a while now since we went into Iraq would be very sympathetic to our abandoning them there. In fact, the commander of all the troops there were from NATO countries, and we only took leadership command about a year ago, which is why BushCo could abandoned that command offensive for Iraq.

While the article may present an interesting premise for legal argument, it did not adequately address the realities of what is on the ground or who is actually there. Perhaps a more realistic article would be appropriate in the future.

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Waiting on the U.N.? The U.-who-then??
Posted by: ABetterFuture on Aug 1, 2008 6:15 AM   
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Why wait on approval for a defensive strike from an irrelevant, self-serving bureaucracy?

I do agree that occupations are a waste of blood and treasure--you destroy your enemies and the government supporting them, and then leave. If they pop back up, you do it again. It has been an utter fallacy to waste our precious people and resources to try and oversee the "democratization of the region", in a place where people prefer to vote for Mohammad Dictatorships.

The argument for invading Iraq was much, much poorer, even with what we now know was faulty intelligence, and basically amounted to "Hussein is a bad guy, and may still have weapons like B. anthracis*, and the chemical weapons he used on men, women, and children inside his own borders." That, of course, leaves out the fissile material we were lied to about.

The U.N. and international forces can make a difference, but only when they choose to. When they fails--and I'd point to Darfur and perhaps East Timor--as primary examples of "waiting on defense by committee", and of course, to a lesser degree Afghanistan, then they choose to be irrelevant. And, in the case of Afghanistan, it's only a lesser degree because the U.S. possesses the wherewithal to fight back, while elsewhere in the world, genocide is conducted while the U.N. watches observantly.

No thank you. When it comes to defense, defense rules, and your pet committee's rules take a back seat.

*which, by the way, President Clinton had ordered every member of the armed forces vaccinated against due to such intel

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Afghanistan Invasion Was Illegal
Posted by: curiousdwk on Aug 1, 2008 6:22 AM   
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The author is right to say that our invasion of Afghanistan was illegal. We did not pursue other, more reasonable means before bombing the hell out of them. Our enemy was not the Afghani government. They may not have been our friend, but they weren't our enemy. But our invasion included indiscriminate bombings of cities causing terror (yes, we were the terrorists here) in tens of thousands of villagers who had to leave their homes and leave their cities. What crimes did they commit?

Whatever should have been done should have been done with the collaboration of other countries who also felt threatened - not just our puppet friends. And yes, the author is right that Afghanistan should be with the United Nations rather than NATO. The mission of NATO is defense while the mission of the UN is peace. The US can control the operations of NATO and increase the war activities but could not do that with the UN. But the US' arrogance and beligerance has always trumped working cooperatively with the UN. (And I'm not sure that Obama views Afghanistan any more reasonably than Bush did and does.)

We are occupiers. We should not be occupiers. If the objective of our invasion was to occupy, then it was illegal. If the objective was not to occupy, then we have succeeded in our mission and we should not be occupying. Either our invasion or our occupying was and is illegal. Probably both.

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Alternet is still perpetuating the myth . . .
Posted by: dustdevil on Aug 1, 2008 6:26 AM   
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Where is the proof that 19 Arabs attacked us on 911?

The Bush Administration has not supplied any.

Even Hamilton and Keane, co-chairmen of the 911 Commission, have said the government was blatant in withholding information.

Bush and Cheney would not testify before the Commission under oath even though they had specified that the Commission should not investigate who was to blame for 911.

The article should have used the Fox News technique of "Some people believe" that 19 Arabs attacked us on 911. At least that would have some degree of accuracy.

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» Aluminum Foil Posted by: robbie.seal
An apology.
Posted by: LeaveMeAlone on Aug 1, 2008 6:23 AM   
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So we issue an arrest warrant the Taliban wipe their asses with and then apologize to Bin Laden for giving him the motive to kill us. What's next? A heartfelt apology for placing our skyscrappers and our three thousand people in the way of their hijacked jets?

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» Try Again Posted by: robbie.seal
ridiculous
Posted by: jstepp590 on Aug 1, 2008 7:29 AM   
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This is ridiculous. Iraq we can agree with, Afghanistan we'll just have to agree to disagree. Afghanistan harbored an international mass murderer and refused to turn him over for trial. They chose their side and get what they deserved.

Look guys, when someone attacks you then all bets are off. You'll be sitting there arguing the morality of a war when the enemy walks up and puts a bullet in your head. This is the reason why intellectuals do not rule the world. I'm sorry you cannot see that but it's the truth.

Our national standing and reputation are what is on the line in Afghanistan. Support our country and troops by letting them stabilize Afghanistan while not allowing this dimwit administration start new problems for us. Finish what we started and then look and see what troops we can bring home without allowing the problems those troops are containing from spreading out of control until we're having to fight again because we ran out on our allies and didn't finish what we started.

This idealism, which I do agree with, is a starting place not an end. This goal needs to be implemented but that implementation must be dictated by the reality on the ground or you will allow ideology (wishful thinking) to make a fool of you and kill your fellow countrymen the same as it did for Bush.

Please do not make their mistake and make knee jerk decisions that leave us in deeper than before.

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A special message for PakiBoy, the boy who wants to grow up and be Stalin
Posted by: Illiteratilumen on Aug 1, 2008 7:43 AM   
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In a response to Hugh Scott you stated "If there were any real justice, animals like you and others who serve the imperial policies of US, would be executed using rat poison."

Lets run some numbers here. According to the census buraeu there are 26.4 million veterans currently living in the United States and another 2.5 active duty and guard or reservists.

PakiBoy is actively calling for 28.9 million people to be executed with rat poison. That's going to take an awful lot of rat poison. That's just military service people too. How many other government employees and private citizens would you like to see executed?

Think big, PakiBoy. Lets see if we can hammer out a good ballpark figure today so we can get in touch with the folks at D-Con and make sure they ramp up production for the impending PakiBoy holocaust.

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» I don't care who you are Posted by: robbie.seal
Afghanistan Conflict Similar To Iraq's
Posted by: QQOblivion on Aug 1, 2008 8:27 AM   
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I posted this to another article on this topic. (That article got fewer comments than this one has.)
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Like in Iraq, innocent Afghani men, women, and children are often unjustifiably mass-murdered by US-led forces.
Like in Iraq, innocent Afghanis are kidnapped and sent to US-run torture prisons to be sodomized, partially drowned, electrocuted, or whatever clever forms of abuse can be dreamed up by sadistic American interrogators.
Like in Iraq, as the [other] article notes, services that US-led forces were suppose to provide to a desperate citizenry are still lacking, all these years later.
Like in Iraq, the invasion of Afghanistan was based on lies, and on a mistaken sense among Americans and their leadership that war is good.
Like in Iraq, we are not "winning" the occupation in Afghanistan, whatever "winning" is.
Like in Iraq, the conflict is draining the US treasury dry, all the while making war profiteers richer still.

Like in Iraq, the Afghanistan conflict -- whether a war, an occupation, or whatever -- was never "good". War seldom, if ever, is.

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» I agree Posted by: robbie.seal
Daniel Levin, Ph.D.
Posted by: levinpsy on Aug 1, 2008 9:54 AM   
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Kudos to Ms. Cohn who speaks clearly and calmly something I have felt ever since we invaded Afghanistan. Hers of course is a lonely position in America, a country which seems to need to be at constant war with someone, but a right and just position nonetheless.

Which future president will have the courage to declare an end to 'the war on terror'? Once started, how can such a 'war' ever end unless a president has the guts to declare it over? I once had rather naive hopes it would be Obama, but sadly no more.

I regularly tell my friends and family that if I were to be elected president (yeah, sure), my first act would be to declare us to be at peace. It would be the truth because because no country has declared war on us, and whatever wars we are fighting, including the 'war on terror', are not only illegal and destructive, but also entirely of our own making. Troops could therefore be brought home, and America and the world could then legitimately breathe a sigh of relief. It would take just one speech.
"We are now officially at peace, the war on terror is over."

Small groups of terrorists may commit crimes against us of course, but that is not war, it's crimes. Bush has declared our whole world to be in a state of endless war. For that heinous act alone he should be impeached and brought to justice for war crimes.

I hate living in a state of constant war, and so does every child and thoughtful adult on earth. Ms. Cohn is one such thoughtful person, and has produced one of the best pieces I have read on Alternet in some time.

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Afghanistan illegal? Come on!
Posted by: daniel1982 on Aug 1, 2008 10:34 AM   
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The Taliban sheltered and abetted the group responsible for the attack of 9/11. That is an act of war. Give me a break here. You can make a case for Iraq, but not Afghanistan.

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» RE: The Taliban is Not Al-Qaeda Posted by: FoonTheElder
» Thank you, Elder... Posted by: buffeliscious
» RE: Thank you, Elder... Posted by: dustdevil
» RE: The Taliban is Not Al-Qaeda Posted by: daniel1982
» The difference, harry, Posted by: buffeliscious
» RE: The difference, harry, Posted by: harryf200
Let me answer
Posted by: owlsliveintrees on Aug 1, 2008 10:37 AM   
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Afghanistan was the base of operations for a militant NGO that was being supplied, hidden, and encouraged by its host government. The U.N. Charter (if that's what we're going on...why? I dunno) never envisioned this and thus to have our hands tied by a document whose writers never envisioned such a scenario was criminally stupid. There is your answer.

It's called the Bush Doctrine.

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Read their lips. $$$$$
Posted by: reelectnoone on Aug 1, 2008 11:30 AM   
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It is about oil.

Now if Iraq's government wants to pay us as advisers to train their troops, then give those who wish to remain a nice bonus and good benefits and let them stay on as paid advisers to Iraq. Iraq has to have the sole right to decide if we are there or not. It is their land which we "liberated" them to run without a dictator.

Is Bush now insisting the US must become their new dictator?

It would appear so. Question is...will Congress let him keep this farce going?

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Bravo, finally truth not truthiness!
Posted by: Spiritgirl on Aug 1, 2008 11:37 AM   
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Prof. Cohen has told the truth. This fiasco of this administration and their corporate cronies in the MSM has used FEAR TACTICS (images of mushroom clouds, etc.) ever since Sept.11 to paralyze the populace into allowing them to do what they wanted to.

Most Americans are too busy to pay attention and have lost faith in government to keep an eye on those good ole boys in charge!

Hostages were taken because of our support for the Shah of Iran with his secret CIA run torture blacksites. Why - its the OIL!! The Saudi Arabian royals are given a free pass, why -again OIL! The fact that those governments are abusive tyrannies to their citizens - no problem - as long as we get the OIL. Saddam Hussein was brought into power because of a CIA back coup because the democratically elected government decided that they wanted to nationalize the OIL and kicked out the major OIL companies! The government in Venezuela is demonized - and yet the people keep voting for Chavez, why, because he is actually trying to do something for the benefit of the populace with the oil money!

The truth is there are many, many policies that our government has done in our name that we don't know about. Why, because maybe if we know ahead of time we can stop it! Maybe instead of getting angry with the author of this piece, some of you will educate yourselves about what the government is doing in "our" name.

Truth be told, the Shah of Iran, Saddam Hussein, and many others were educated right here in the good old U.S.A., where their collective torture tactics were honed to the sharp edges that they had. The fact that our government supports them is not only illegal but immoral.

Another truth is that if it wasn't for you being born in this country as opposed to Iraq - I wonder if you would have the same opinion!

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» I believe you mean Posted by: buffeliscious
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» RE: I believe you mean Posted by: buffeliscious
Legal, schmegal
Posted by: willymack on Aug 1, 2008 12:12 PM   
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The very fact that dubya occupies the White House illegally (remember the fradulent "elections" of 00 & 04?) says this regime gives not one mouse fart about legalities.The same goes for the TRUTH. Where's the indisputable evidence that Osama bin Laden is even alive, let alone leading Al Queda? Where is the irrefutable proof that 911 was carried out by nineteen Arab patsies with box cutters and led by a fugitive bin Laden from a cave? It doesn't exist, folks; the REAL truth has yet to be revealed. I can understand the reticence one may have to blabbing the truth about 911 and two phony wars. This would put him/her in prison for life at best. For all we know, someone may have tried to come forward, already, only to disappear. In the meantime, this evil regime breaks multiple laws on a daily basis because there's no one to stop them.

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No, Mr. Obama. No, Mr. McCain. No War, No Way.
Posted by: edgar1 on Aug 1, 2008 1:12 PM   
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Not because of 'international law' which no one, during or after the Cold war takes seriously. Occasionally corporations or naions agree to international arbitration if it serves their interests; otherwise they ignore it. Now the Bosnian Serb leader is in jail in Hague as an "international warcriminal". Absurd. If he murdered or caused the murder of Bosnian Muslims, which several historical accounts by non-Yugoslavs seem to verify, let him be tried as a murderer by Bosnia. But international law is by definition anti-democratic.

On the other hand, the US should not be fighting the war of the secular Afghans against the Taliban; or favoring one tribe over the other. This war in that terrain is one that eventually could make Iraq look like the "cakewalk" that the idiot Wolfowitz and the neocons like Cheney thought they would actually have in Iraq. Certainly Iran and Pakistan have interests in Afghan stability. If they want to fight it out there, let them. The Russians tried to stabilize their southern border with the Afghans and the Red Army in numbers rivaling our forces in Iraq, failed miserably. And Russian troops were just as "heroic" as US troops, and not hindered by any rules of engagement like the Americans.

Let Obama enlist in the Afghan Army. He is very gungho militarist on intensifying the Afghan violence, because he wants to appear "tough" like McCain. No body should die in another country's civil war because of Obama's power ambition, which is less and less appealing every day. Like McCain, Obama has no overriding vision of society that he is fighting for. He, like McCain, just wants to be the Boss.

Let the antiwar movement take both clowns on and build a non-intervention movement to stop these neo-colonial jaunts once and for all.

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Finally
Posted by: michaelpatrick on Aug 1, 2008 1:34 PM   
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Professor Cohn, thank you for writing about this very important subject. As a political science student, I find it to be very disturbing that so few people in the United States, including those in academia, have neglected to entertain and/or support the position that the war in Afghanistan is in fact illigal.

Furthermore, it seems as though many people are willing to overlook the illegality of the war in Afghanistan on the grounds that the US government was simply responding to American's desire for retribution following 9/11, and that doing so has subsequently given the US an opportunity to curb both Al Qaeda and the Taliban within Afghanistan. In my opinion, however, neither justification suffices. Now, perhaps suggesting that American's should have known better than to immediately seek retribution following 9/11 is utopic. After all, emotions are emotions, or are they? For perhaps, if Americans were both less violent and better educated in civics, world history, and geo-politics, the aftermath of the September 11th attacks would have gone a bit differently.

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» As a political Science Graduate Posted by: robbie.seal
I Disagree
Posted by: vivachavez on Aug 1, 2008 3:07 PM   
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While many facets of the war in Afghanistan are morally repugnant, AMerica had every right to invade that nation and depose the Taliban.

Now it is true that the campaign there has failed miserabley and the U.S. forces have committed numerous human rights abuses, earning sharp rebuke from President Karzai, but America has a legitimate reason to be in that nation.

I do agree with Cohn's point that America's anti-terrorism strategy is completely wrong and only encourages further terrorism, violates many constitutionally guaranteed civil liberties, and engages in wanton torture.

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» RE: I Disagree Posted by: adempatriot
al-CIAda & CIA asset Bin Laden as alibi for Phony “war on terror”
Posted by: Mister_PsyOps on Aug 1, 2008 4:41 PM   
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This for the brainwashed, the negligent and sandbox gullible who mindlessly recycle
NeoCon LIES re: "al-Qaeda" or more correctly al-CIAda for phony 9/11 "war on terror" (war on a noun) responses at Afghanistan, Iraq War Incorporated, etc, for Big Oil and cartel banking hegemony.

You have no case. None.

The money trail for al-CIAda fronted by ISI puppets out of Pakistan was never EVER a homegrown Mid East setup. It was officially invented out of whole cloth, lock stock and barrel for a RICO case trumped up against CIA asset Osama bin Laden (a.k.a. “Tim Osman”) at a Manhattan courtroom in January 2001 to go after an entirely bogus “terrorist organization” created by the west. The term “al-Qaeda” was virtually unused prior to that rigged RICO case. (All of this addressed in the BBC documentary “the Power of Nightmares” ).

The money trail to fund and produce al-CIAda has always, ALWAYS come out of Washington and the House of Saud and nowhere else. That includes money for a false-flag coverup operation at 9/11 fronted by Pakistan’s ISI.

British MP Michael Meacher (The Guardian 7/22/2004):

"Ahmed [General Mahmoud Ahmed head of Pakistan's ISI] the paymaster for the [9/11] hijackers, was actually in Washington on 9/11, and had a series of pre-9/11 top-level meetings in the White House, the Pentagon, the national security council, and with George Tenet, then head of the CIA, and Marc Grossman, the under-secretary of state for political affairs. When Ahmed was exposed by the Wall Street Journal as having sent the money to the hijackers, he was forced to "retire" by President Pervez Musharraf. Why hasn't the US demanded that he be questioned and tried in court?"

And then there’s a a 200 man plus embed 9/11 Israeli Mossad spy operation tracking “hijackers” and busted on the day to be shipped home to Israel under what remains an effective 9/11 “war on terror” Washington-MSM blackout that includes Alternet and a would be “alternative” press.

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War is when you shoot first and think later.
Posted by: PaulK on Aug 1, 2008 7:20 PM   
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Afghanistan now consists of North and South Afghanistan. South Afghanistan is guarded by nuclear weapons, but the U.S. likes to launch bombing runs on South Afghanistan anyways.

North Afghanistan is de facto run by a bunch of heroin kingpins. The GIs can get some good junk over there. Our government puts up with this inherent Afghani corruption problem.

Anyways the NVA troops keep crossing the border. Oops, old Vietnam reference. Some generals want to paint a demilitarized zone between North and South Afghanistan. It can be loaded with leaf mines. Blow off a million limbs and maybe "they" will learn a lesson.

As before, the common farmers are caught in the middle of a crossfire. They all have to pay taxes to the guerrillas because there's no way the Afghan government can guard a remote farm at night. Sometimes the US troops commit an atrocity, but it's nothing personal.

All this costs the U.S. a fortune.

The U.S. government doesn't care if the voters' patience gives out, because both (all) candidates will support the war even if the American poor have to eat moldy bread. Actually, the soup kitchens scrape off the mold first.

Three things are going to give out now. First, the U.S. national money is going to give out, just like in the 1970s. Second, the troops are going to give out. Third, the enemy is going to adapt year after year to our technological dominance with simple but effective weapons, and some year they're going to succeed. That's what eventually happened in the North Vietnam air war. In 1973 the U.S. was losing too many good planes and couldn't afford to replace them, so the U.S. signed a stupid piece of paper and ran for its life.

The other countries are going to bail in Afghanistan, and then the U.S. is going to lose the war in Afghanistan. With heroin merchants for allies, how can we win?

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It Is Important To Kill The Guilty................unless I am guilty in which case please forgive me
Posted by: channing on Aug 2, 2008 12:41 AM   
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What we war-mongers are saying is that justice is a day to day term describing the political and economic conditions of a subdued people who suppress dissent and challenge alike. We the war-mongers clear the path to survival of the fittest, and we are not done killing the un-fittest, and neither you nor me has any say beyond the fitness we ourselves own.

The world is survival and not competition in its first place. Upon the human is built the remains of civilization and resultant meaning in human endeavor. We have not passed ourselves, neither one nor whole, but we have fitted ourselves with a reasonable data of permanence and sustenance to which we abide.

It is our duty to Kill The Guilty, of course, not everyone agrees this thesis, and it is not sustainable and neither is it productive to human endeavor... so, Why is it our duty to Kill The Guilty?

OH! IknowIknowIknowIknowIknowIknow!!!!!!!!

this is me speaking

It is our duty to kill life because I'm sure humans were created to kill somethinginginging?!?!? YEs?!? RIGHT?!@?@@???!@?@

**********I'M KILLING YOU*********88

and those were just words on the internet

No, really, the reason "It Is Important To Kill The Guilty" is because They Are Guilty, I mean, if guilt is not sufficient reason to kill, what is? I know,

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Money
Posted by: beautifulady2003 on Aug 2, 2008 7:01 AM   
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That's the reason for the war in Afghanistan; it's just as lucrative for the big energy companies as Iraq. The reason the US stays in Afghanistan is to destroy it completely, after which the energy conglomerates will build natural gas pipelines through Afghanistan and Pakistan, all the way to India. Nuts to "alternative forms of energy," US corporations are relying on hegemony and disaster capitalism to enable them to control the world. BTW, to hell with Obama; he's behind this plan. With all the "clarifications" he's made to his policies, why would anyone vote for him? Now the hypocrite is speaking in favor of offshore drilling.

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Selfdefense is always legal
Posted by: LatinioDem on Aug 2, 2008 2:06 PM   
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Sorry to disagree, but those who attacked us on 9/11 were headquatered, trained, and sent from Afghanistan. When the Taliban government refused to turn those criminals in and stop their terrorist activities aimed at us, we had the right to go in and prevent that from happening again. The Taliban brought this upon themselves.

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» RE: Selfdefense is always legal Posted by: adempatriot
I agree. Great article.
Posted by: adempatriot on Aug 3, 2008 9:41 AM   
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The U.S. invaded Afghanistan based on a tissue of deceptions and propaganda, with no hard evidence that the 911 perps were there. To this day, no evidence that would stand up in court has proven that Bin Laden or Al Qaeda had anything to do with 911. We're told that the hijackers were mostly Saudis; but for some reason the U.S. didn't invade Saudi Arabia.

Oil, obvously, was a major factor.[Iraq] I wonder why, with all the talk of the "stranglehold" of "foreign oil", there is little mention that the 4 top oil importers are Canada, Saudi Arabia, Mexico, and Venezuela. That's a lot of your "foreign oil".
http://www.eia.doe.gov/pub/oil_gas/ petroleum/data_publications/company_level_ imports/current/import.html (remove spaces before "petroleum and "imports" URl to activate URL)

One big reason the U.S. invaded Afghanistan and Iraq seems to be American racism against Muslims.
The anti-Muslim tenor of the past seven years in the U.S. is easily observed and widely documented.
It was also was broadly seen in Gulf War 1 when, to name some examples, Iraqis, and by extension almost everyone in the region (roughly) from the eastern border of Israel to Pakistan, began to be called "ragheads", sand ni**ers", and "camel jockeys". Anti-"raghead" T-shirts, were made, including the famous "I'd Rather Smoke a Camel", with a generic Arabic-looking figure on a camel in the crosshairs. That T-shirt represented the mindset of many Americans- and still does in the use of the word "haji" in the same sense as the word "gook" was used in Vietnam.

When 911 happened, America's latent hatred of Islamic peoples in the Mideast was easy to manipulate by Bush and his gang.

Also, lest we forget, strong indications show the probability that the WTC was not demolished by the airplanes, but by planned demolition using Thermite and C4 or equivalent, and that the airplanes were crashed into the buildings as a distraction or "red herring". I do not believe there is any way that those planes knocked down the WTC. There needs to be a new and proper investigation to find out who did it and why.

But whoever caused it, the 911 disaster was played up by Bush and his friends as a reason to go to war. People forgot that the neocons and Bush had previously announced their wish and intention to attack and invade and occupy Iraq.
The press became a government arm, and betrayed the people.
The country's free-floating bloodlust was tapped into as if there had been another Pearl Harbor, which was, btw, a very different thing than 911; Pearl Harbor was a definite attack by a foreign country's official military forces. We still don't know what caused 911. Someone knows, but we the people don't know. I for one would like to know the truth about it.

So Bush led us into war. Our troops should have never gone to either Afghanistan or Iraq. The first premise- that they were the enemy and had attacked us and we must attack them in return- was based on lies.

Finally, we shouldn't forget that Bush Sr. used to sneer Saddam's name back in Gulf War 1. He hated Saddam, and I suppose vice versa. He used to say "SADdim", and at times it was almost as if he were saying "Satan."
So Bush Junior had to invade Iraq to try and finally please Daddy. Bush took us to a horrible double war because he had a resentment against Hussein.
If you read the laws of war, Geneva et al., it becomes clearer and clearer that George W. Bush is a war criminal, and everyone who participates in either war is at risk of being a war criminal. If you read the Constitution, it leads you to conclude that George W. Bush has also betrayed his country with "high crimes and misdeameanors." I hope Barack Obama and next year's Congress don't let the Bush gang take all the money and run. They need to be tried in a world court and then an American court.

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And The Extermination Continues
Posted by: samsel3 on Aug 3, 2008 12:38 PM   
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There are no benefits for Americans in Afghanistan. Your tax dollars and cumulative borrowed debt to finance these operations only benefit the corporations who purchased the oil& gas rights in the Caspian Sea Basin, for the construction of the Caspian Sea Pipelines........nothing more nothing less.

And the extermination continues:...........


February 12, 1998 John J. Maresca vp of UNOCAL oil appeared before a House sub committee. The purpose of the meeting was to gain support for exploitation of oil & natural gas resources, for the rights purchased by BIG OIL in the Caspian Sea area.

In his testimony he stated, "The key question is how the energy resources of Central Asia can be made available to nearby Asian markets ".

The exploitation option stated : "One obvious route south would cross Iran, but this is foreclosed by American companies because of U.S. sanctions (with Iran ) . The only other possible route is across Afghanistan, which of course has it's own unique challenges. " He continued saying,

" the pipeline we have proposed across Afghanistan could not begin until a recognized government is in place that has the confidence of governments,lenders (world monitary fund & world bank ) ,and our company "......"

UNOCAL and other American companies are prepared to undertake the job ".

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And The Extermination Continues
Posted by: samsel3 on Aug 3, 2008 12:41 PM   
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More than a year and half before 911 the CIA Special Activities Division was conducting operations in Afghanistan, trying to topple the Taliban regime for the Caspian Sea Oil & Gas Pipelines...........We now call such activities terror.

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Occupation is NOT Legal !
Posted by: Kahoneez on Aug 3, 2008 2:45 PM   
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The uninformed don't realize that the Taliban were business partners until about 2000. They went to Houston to UNOCAL HQ (admitted on their web site)and the well publicized visit training for Taliban reps in oil industry production .
That's the context , and the next issue is the OIL PIPELINE from Caspian Sea , that will run from N. Afghanistan to the S., that U.S. corporations and the CIA have been pushing for for several yrs BEFORE 9/11 . Trillions of dollars of OIL . Controlled by the U.S.
So it's a matter of timing , not how bad the Taliban were, and when they were willing to cooperate , they were ok . When they wanted access to the pipeline running through their country, they became the enemy .
Why else would the daughter of former CIA director Helms, represent the Taliban before 9-11 , as PR person .
9-11 happened and the U.S. has murdered over 5- 8 thousand CIVILIANS , MORE THAT on 9-11 . Occupy one of the poorest countries on earth , have built mega million dollar bases, secret prisons and for WHAT, guys riding around in Toyota Pick-Up trucks w/ ak47s . That alone should make u think it stinks .
Oh, another fact for the sheeple , CIA installed KARZAI signed oil pipeline deal with Pakistan and Turkmenistan , WEEKS after taking office .
IT'S ABOUT CONTROLLING THE REGIONS RESOURCES , OIL AND NATURAL GAS , period .
SO keep supporting the murderous occupation of the middle east and Eurasia , that's why they fight the U.S.

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Sorry, but you're off the mark
Posted by: robbie.seal on Aug 3, 2008 3:33 PM   
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You base your assertions on the UN? This is the same UN that allows what is going on in Darfur. This is the same UN that allowed the Balkan attrocities. They allowed the Ruwandan holocaust. They would have done nothing following the 911 attacks.

They would have done nothing to the Taliban, and thus allowed Al Qaeda to continue attacking the US any way they could. I wasn't for the Iraq Invasion, but taking down the Taliban was well within our right. To go after those that afforded support to those that attacked us was well within self defense.

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Another reason Bush & Cheney want Iran eliminated..
Posted by: samsel3 on Aug 4, 2008 6:38 AM   
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In 2007 Condoleeza Rice in a meeting with President Musharaf of Pakistan said the administration was not happy with the progress being made on their end of the Caspian Sea Pipeline.

Unkown to the administration at the time, Musharaf was talking to Iran & India.
January 24,2008 India announced a plan for a 2,775 km Iran-Pakistan-India gas pipeline. Union Petroleum Minister Murli Deora said, "Iranian ambassador spoke to me tuesday and they are very keen that the project takes shape as it is in the interest of all three countries ". Times of India
This is a new twist that does not fit Cheney's energy policy for the Caspian Sea Oil & Gas pipelines headed for Pakistan and the Gulf of Oman to supply Asian markets.

Will Musharaf dump the USA's Caspian Sea Pipeline now that he has Iran on line in this new deal? Or will he take both pipelines through Pakistan for Asian markets.

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Illegal Invasion
Posted by: 876 on Aug 4, 2008 1:16 PM   
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Americans see the Afghani occupation as justifiable because they’re under educated idiots who talk out of their asses a lot. For those who oppose the Iraq war Obama proposes killing more Afghanis to satisfy their hysteria and appease their desire to get out of Iraq but still war with someone, anyone. This way he kills two birds with one stone even if there is no reasoning behind his plan other than to appease the idiot American public and get elected.

The US has acted criminally by attacking Afghanistan and for interfering in its internal affairs for more than 25 years. The Arabs who attacked Americans have committed more crimes against the people of Afghanistan, prolonged, funded the civil war and used Afghanistan as a dumping ground for Arab criminals in large part with help from Americans. in other words not only have Afghanis not attacked the US but have been victimized by Americans covert operations and their Arab and Pakistani allies for three decades by way of the ISI sponsored Taliban which in turn receives assistance from the CIA that being just one example. There is further is no evidence the Taliban ever had been Bin Ladin. The Taliban spokesman did not ever announce that Bin Laden was in fact with the Taliban.

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oxheadone
Posted by: oxheadone on Aug 5, 2008 8:20 PM   
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Very interesting article and discussion. In a sense, the attack on Afganistan makes even less sense than the attack on Iraq, which makes sense in terms of our wanting control of their oil. Thee Taliban were products of our CIA, we built them and trained them and paid them to drive the Russians out of Afganistan as one of the last gasps of the cold war. We should have let the Russians keep Afganistan, which is not worth much, even to the Afgans, except as a place to grow opium. Oil is freely for sale; it comes mostly from places you really don't want to know about. They have to sell it because they have nothing else that's worth anything to anybody; they can't eat it or drink it. Nobody in his right mind wants to have anything to do with most of the people running most of the places that oil comes from. Why we didn't ask the CIA to ask their buddies, the Taliban, to wipe out AlQaida which I believe they would have done virtually for free, since Arabs love fighting each other, I still do not understand -- except that Bush and Co. wanted to appear to be doing something that makes sense only to people who know nothing about the middle east (most Americans) and also make him a war president and assure the 2004 election and establish the imperial presidency. It seems that nobody can tell the real truth and try to reverse this mess, which is destroying the US at its very soul, since the US public is too stupid. It may even elect McCain.

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The real reason for the "surge" in violence in Afganistan
Posted by: Lermanet.com on Aug 7, 2008 4:04 AM   
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There was an article in the new york sun that revealed a little of this story, search for Noorzai.

Noorzai is the head of the largest tribe of Pashtun in the mountains of Afganistan. He made headlines a while back for bringing the US a couple of truck loads of stinger missles and RPG's.

His clan has been growing opium for centuries, nothing else grows there, it is a harsh environment. Only the toughest, most determined, and tenacious breed of human could live there much less flourish.

He was enticed to visit the US to receive an award by President Bush, he was told, and was wined and dined for a couple weeks at a fancy hotel, and then they snapped the cuffs on him and arrested him as a drug king pin.

His clan has declared war on the United States because they want their leader back, and they know that the United States Government lied.

Perhaps that is why he was arrested. And this is the DEA's biggest WIN in drug enforcement...??

In the mountains of Afganistan, there are no contracts, no newspapers, there is only a man's word and his reputation for keeping it.

The United States Government LIED and the largest tribe in Afganistan knows it, and for them this is a matter of honor. So now we have intitiated endless reprisal killings, that will be fought to the last man, why? Because of a LIE.

And when he was detained he was held in a cell without windows so he could not tell which way east was,to pray.

The current administration has committed so many crimes, for so long, that they have no choice and are about to plunge the world, this time using Iran, into Jonestown Syndrome. I believe these sociopaths think they can solve global warming by inciting a nuclear winter, and solve overpopulation too!! This is Jonestown Syndrome. where you kill as many people as possible so that no one will be able to testify about your crimes.

May God Bless us all

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