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The Wedding Crashers: U.S. Jets Have Bombed Five Ceremonies in Afghanistan
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It was a tribal affair. Against a picture-perfect sunset, before a beige-colored cross and an altar made of the very Texas limestone that was also used to build her family's "ranch," veil-less in an Oscar de la Renta gown, the 26 year-old bride said her vows. More than 200 members of her extended family and friends were on hand, as well as the 14 women in her "house party," who were dressed "in seven different styles of knee-length dresses in seven different colors that match[ed] the palette of… wildflowers -- blues, greens, lavenders and pinky reds." Afterwards, in a white tent set in a grove of trees and illuminated by strings of lights, the father of the bride, George W. Bush, danced with his daughter to the strains of "You Are So Beautiful." The media was kept at arm's length and the vows were private, but undoubtedly they included the phrase "till death do us part."
That was early May of this year. Less than two months later, halfway across the world, another tribal affair was underway. The age of the bride involved is unknown to us, as is her name. No reporters were clamoring to get to her section of the mountainous backcountry of Afghanistan near the Pakistani border. We know almost nothing about her circumstances, except that she was on her way to a nearby village, evidently early in the morning, among a party 70-90 strong, mostly women, "escorting the bride to meet her groom as local tradition dictates."
It was then that the American plane (or planes) arrived, ensuring that she would never say her vows. "They stopped in a narrow location for rest," said one witness about her house party, according to the BBC. "The plane came and bombed the area." The district governor, Haji Amishah Gul, told the British Times, "So far there are 27 people, including women and children, who have been buried. Another 10 have been wounded. The attack happened at 6.30AM. Just two of the dead are men, the rest are women and children. The bride is among the dead."
U.S. military spokespeople flatly denied the story. They claimed that Taliban insurgents had been "clearly identified" among the group. "[T]his may just be normal, typical militant propaganda," said 1st Lieutenant Nathan Perry. Despite accounts of the wounded, including women and children, being brought to a local hospital, Captain Christian Patterson, coalition media officer, insisted: "It was not a wedding party, there were no women or children present. We have no reports of civilian casualties." The members of an Afghan inquiry, appointed by President Hamid Karzai, later found that, in all, 47 civilians had died, including 39 women and children, and nine others were wounded.
Here's another American take on what happened: "The US military has denied allegations that its forces… killed dozens of people celebrating a marriage… 'We took hostile fire and we returned fire,' said Brigadier General Mark Kimmitt, deputy director of operations… He said there were no indications that the victims of the attack were part of a wedding party."
Oh, my mistake. Kimmitt was denying that a different wedding party had been obliterated -- in the Western Iraqi desert, near the Syrian border, in May 2004. In that case, the wedding feast was long over. The celebrations had ended and the guests were evidently in bed when the U.S. jets arrived. More than 40 people died, including children, women, musicians, and a well-known Iraqi wedding singer hired for the event. According to Rory McCarthy of the British Guardian, who interviewed some of the hospitalized survivors, 27 members of one extended family died when the jets arrived.
In response to reports on that 2004 slaughter, Major General James Mattis, commander of the 1st Marine Division, asked the following question: "How many people go to the middle of the desert... to hold a wedding 80 miles from the nearest civilization?" And, in an email responding to questions from a New York Times reporter, General Kimmitt later offered what was, by U.S. military standards, little short of an admission: "Could there have been a celebration of some type going on?... Certainly. Bad guys have celebrations. Could this have been a meeting among the foreign fighters and smugglers? That is a possibility. Could it have involved entertainment? Sure. However, a wedding party in a remote section of the desert along one of the rat lines, held in the early morning hours strains credulity."
The comments of Mattis and Kimmitt deserve, of course, to go directly into the annals of American military quotes, right next to that Vietnam era classic: "It became necessary to destroy the town to save it."
But back to the subject of collateral ceremonial damage in Afghanistan. Consider this passage from a news report headlined, "No US Apology over Wedding Bombing," in the Guardian:
"Afghans claim the wedding guests, who were celebrating near Deh Rawud village, in the mountainous province of Oruzgan, north of Kandahar, had been firing into the air -- a Pashtun wedding tradition -- when American planes struck. But a U.S. spokesman claimed yesterday that the shooting was 'not consistent' with a wedding, saying that the planes had come under attack. 'Normally when you think of celebratory fire... it's random, it's sprayed, it's not directed at a specific target,' said Colonel Roger King at the U.S. airbase at Bagram. 'In this instance, the people on board the aircraft felt that the weapons were tracking them and were [trying] to engage them.'"
That was indeed Afghanistan -- not in July 2006, however, but four Julys earlier, when at least 30 people in a wedding party were wiped out, most of them, again, reportedly women and children. Here's how Abdullah Abdullah, the Afghan foreign minister at the time, described that American air attack. It killed, he said, "a whole family of 25 people. No single person was left alive. This is the extent of the damage."
Oh, and let's not forget the ur-incident in wedding party destruction in Bush's wars. In late December 2001, a B-52 and two B-1B bombers, using precision-guided weapons, essentially wiped out a village in Eastern Afghanistan (and then, in a second strike, took out Afghans digging in the rubble). At the time, it was claimed that Taliban and al-Qaeda leaders had been killed "in their sleep." It was also claimed that surface-to-air missiles had been fired at the American planes. A spokesman for the U.S. Central Command issued a congratulatory statement after the attack occurred with this passage: "Follow-on reporting indicates that there was no collateral damage."Except, of course, as Guardian correspondent Rory Carroll, then in Afghanistan, put it, "bloodied children's shoes and skirts, bloodied school books, the scalp of a woman with braided grey hair, butter toffees in red wrappers, wedding decorations. The charred meat sticking to rubble in black lumps could have been Osama bin Laden's henchmen but survivors said it was the remains of farmers, their wives and children, and wedding guests."
In fact, according to Time Magazine's Tim McGirk, out of 112 Afghans in the wedding party, only two women survived. In this case, it seems that the Americans were fed disinformation by an Afghan official out to settle scores and acted on it.
That makes four wedding parties blown away by U.S. air power in Iraq and Afghanistan since the end of 2001. And there was probably at least one more. Back in May 2002, it was claimed that U.S. helicopters wiped out a wedding party in the eastern Afghan province of Khost, killing 10 and wounding many more. An Agence France Presse report at the time concluded: "A wedding was in progress in the village when people fired into the air in traditional celebration and US helicopters flying over the area could have mistaken it for hostile fire. An aircraft later bombed the area for several hours." On this event, however, the documentation is far poorer.
All these "incidents" have some obvious features in common: the almost immediate claims by the U.S. military, for instance, that those who have been hit were adversaries, not wedding parties; the ultimate dismissal of the killings as the usual "collateral damage" in wartime; and, above all, the striking fact that, for none of these slaughters of celebrating locals, did the U.S. ever offer a genuine apology.
The mainstream media tends to pick up such stories as he said/she said affairs. Of course, "she" never actually "says" anything, being dead. But you get the idea. As with the most recent Afghan wedding-party slaughter, such pieces -- generally wire service stories -- are to be found deep inside American newspapers where only the news jockeys are reading. In fact, your basic wedding party wipe-out report is almost certain to share at least some space in the story with a mini-round-up of other kinds of recent death and mayhem in the region in question. The language in which such stories are written is generally humdrum and, in the military mode, death is sanitized (except in rare instances like Carroll's fine reports for the Guardian).
We Americans have only had one experience of death delivered from the air since World War II -- the attacks of September 11, 2001. As no one is likely to forget, they shocked us to our core. And you know how those deaths were covered, right down to the special pages filled with bios of civilians who just happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time, and the repeated invocations of the barbarism of al-Qaeda's killers (and barbarism it truly was).
These wedding parties, however, get no such treatment. Initially, they are automatically assumed to be malevolent -- until the reports begin to filter in from the hospitals, the ruined villages, and the graveyards, and, by then, it's usually too late for much press attention. When that does happen, their deaths are chalked up to an "errant bomb," or that celebratory gunfire, or no explanation is even offered.
Nothing barbaric lurks here, even though we can be sure that these civilians were hardly less surprised by the arrival of the attacking planes than were the victims of 9/11. For their deaths, no word portraits are ever painted. No one in our world thinks to memorialize them, nor is there any cumulative record of their deaths. Whole extended families have been wiped out, while the dead and wounded run into the hundreds, and yet who remembers?
Here's the truth of it: In Bush's wars, the wedding singer dies, the bride does not get a chance to run away, and the event might be relabeled my big, fat, collateral damage wedding.
In the process, we have become a nation of wedding crashers, the uninvited guests who arrived under false pretenses, tore up the place, offered nary an apology, and refused to go home. It's a remarkable record, really, and catches the nature of the Bush administration's air war not on, but of and for terror in a particularly raw way. And yet, in this country, when the latest wedding party went down, no reporter seems even to have recalled our past history of wedding-party obliteration. So it goes.
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They all believed to a Man that it was a necessary hit. They all believed women, teenagers, and children were insurgent terrorists. How they were made to think this is a dark mystery that belongs to such alphabet programs as M K Ultra. One of the farm's pet programs.
If I am lying sue me Mr. CIA director! If you are not guilty of this then your alphabet soup buddies are. Mind control is the right of the INDIVIDUAL what you people are doing to it desereves your incarceration in a hospital for the Criminally Insane.
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(Can you imagine another country bombing a wedding here? OMG.)
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(unlike George Herbert Walker Bush- my father didn't abandon his crew members to certain death by bailing out of his aircraft).
I wanted to be a Naval aviator.
After college I had my chance to become one- the U.S. Navy was losing so many pilots over Vietnam that they were recruiting. Not only had I acquired a first rate education at a public university, I had also acquired a conscience- an awareness that flying and killing are not- should not- be the same thing.
Every school child be required to read Howard Zinn's account of his wartime experience as a bombardier. Soldiers, sailors, and military aviators are trained professional killers.
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Still, this Hell on Earth has been (as the Iraqi invasion) also based on lies.
For the people of Afghanistan -- the innocent men, women and children of the wedding parties, or the innocents blown away by US-led forces in countless other "incidents" in that country -- did not attack us on 9-11-01, despite what Americans want to believe.
And even if you believe that getting rid of the Taliban makes it all worth it, the attacks by US-led forces on civilians have lead to the popularity of and support for the Taliban increasing in Afghanistan. There is now the very real possibility that the Taliban will take the country back.
Way to blow it, America. I somehow knew that civilians would be the ones who suffer, not so much Al Qaeda. That is why I opposed the Afghanistan invasion from the beginning.
And if Americans think that an attack on Iran will be any different, well, it could even lead to more death of civilians, especially if nuclear weapons are used in an attack by the US or Israel.
But what do we care? 'Cause 'merica iz dee best darn cuntree on Earth!
Yeeehawww!
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Your commentary has placed me in the classic 'double approach-avoidance conflict', which, unfortunately is not my first experience with this very ugly type of cognitive dissonance. Being a highly educated progressive as well as a former combat soldier, I am at a loss as to how our military is to reduce or (better yet) avoid the type of carnage that you so accurately describe.
Should the military stop using aircraft and artillery since they can never be 'absolutely sure' that civilians will not be injured or killed?
If the military does limit or suspend using aircraft and artillery, how does the military provide adequate protection for our vastly outnumbered soldiers?
Many years ago, after service with the 101st Airborne as a 'grunt' in Vietnam, I used the GI bill to obtain a PhD in psychology, primarily as a self-help measure to overcome PTSD. I, as a soldier, did not ever plan or ever intend to kill civilians. But, it did and does happen.
Now, after 35 years as a practicing Psychologist, I am somewhat dismayed (though not surprised) to find myself confronting the same irreconcilable choices that have held me at loggerhead all these years.
Sir, can you offer an effective solution to this problem? Where is the line to be drawn between protecting our soldiers and preventing civilian deaths?
If you can solve this riddle, I and several hundred thousand of our current soldiers will be forever in your debt!
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That being said; we deserve whatever recession or even depression that heads our way. It is by our own creation by not being properly proactive AND to me, it's fitting retribution for the killing of hundreds of thousands if not more than a million innocent Iraqi people. We deserve it.
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It was quite clearly blown up using enormous quantities of high explosives
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They all believed to a Man that it was a necessary hit. They all believed women, teenagers, and children were insurgent terrorists. How they were made to think this is a dark mystery that belongs to such alphabet programs as M K Ultra. One of the farm's pet programs.
If I am lying sue me Mr. CIA director! If you are not guilty of this then your alphabet soup buddies are. Mind control is the right of the INDIVIDUAL what you people are doing to it desereves your incarceration in a hospital for the Criminally Insane.
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(Can you imagine another country bombing a wedding here? OMG.)
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(unlike George Herbert Walker Bush- my father didn't abandon his crew members to certain death by bailing out of his aircraft).
I wanted to be a Naval aviator.
After college I had my chance to become one- the U.S. Navy was losing so many pilots over Vietnam that they were recruiting. Not only had I acquired a first rate education at a public university, I had also acquired a conscience- an awareness that flying and killing are not- should not- be the same thing.
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Still, this Hell on Earth has been (as the Iraqi invasion) also based on lies.
For the people of Afghanistan -- the innocent men, women and children of the wedding parties, or the innocents blown away by US-led forces in countless other "incidents" in that country -- did not attack us on 9-11-01, despite what Americans want to believe.
And even if you believe that getting rid of the Taliban makes it all worth it, the attacks by US-led forces on civilians have lead to the popularity of and support for the Taliban increasing in Afghanistan. There is now the very real possibility that the Taliban will take the country back.
Way to blow it, America. I somehow knew that civilians would be the ones who suffer, not so much Al Qaeda. That is why I opposed the Afghanistan invasion from the beginning.
And if Americans think that an attack on Iran will be any different, well, it could even lead to more death of civilians, especially if nuclear weapons are used in an attack by the US or Israel.
But what do we care? 'Cause 'merica iz dee best darn cuntree on Earth!
Yeeehawww!
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Your commentary has placed me in the classic 'double approach-avoidance conflict', which, unfortunately is not my first experience with this very ugly type of cognitive dissonance. Being a highly educated progressive as well as a former combat soldier, I am at a loss as to how our military is to reduce or (better yet) avoid the type of carnage that you so accurately describe.
Should the military stop using aircraft and artillery since they can never be 'absolutely sure' that civilians will not be injured or killed?
If the military does limit or suspend using aircraft and artillery, how does the military provide adequate protection for our vastly outnumbered soldiers?
Many years ago, after service with the 101st Airborne as a 'grunt' in Vietnam, I used the GI bill to obtain a PhD in psychology, primarily as a self-help measure to overcome PTSD. I, as a soldier, did not ever plan or ever intend to kill civilians. But, it did and does happen.
Now, after 35 years as a practicing Psychologist, I am somewhat dismayed (though not surprised) to find myself confronting the same irreconcilable choices that have held me at loggerhead all these years.
Sir, can you offer an effective solution to this problem? Where is the line to be drawn between protecting our soldiers and preventing civilian deaths?
If you can solve this riddle, I and several hundred thousand of our current soldiers will be forever in your debt!
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That being said; we deserve whatever recession or even depression that heads our way. It is by our own creation by not being properly proactive AND to me, it's fitting retribution for the killing of hundreds of thousands if not more than a million innocent Iraqi people. We deserve it.
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It was quite clearly blown up using enormous quantities of high explosives
Who did it?
all fall down
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