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Shocking Bush 'Pep Talk' to His War Cabinet on Iraq: 'We Are Going to Wipe Them out!'

By Tom Engelhardt, Tomdispatch.com. Posted June 1, 2008.


"Kill them." Gen. Ricardo Sanchez's memoirs contain a transcript from a bloodthirsty and over the top private speech by Bush.
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Tom Engelhardt, editor of Tomdispatch.com, is co-founder of the American Empire Project and author of The End of Victory Culture.

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Lets see how tough they are while standing trial for war crimes
Posted by: CrazyCJ on Jun 1, 2008 6:44 PM   
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Do I really need to say anything else?

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Excellent article of how it really is!!
Posted by: jreal on Jun 1, 2008 7:27 PM   
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Wonderful. It's nice to see a piece that tells what this administration is really about. It IS certainly childish. Although Cheney doesn't mind because all his people are getting what they put him in office for.

I still remember the footage of when Bush was notified of the attacks while sitting in a classroom in Florida. For one thing I thought, "Well this seems phishy." But besides that, I could see the glow that he was hardly containing after hearing the news. Under his facade, he didn't have contempt. He had a bolstering rush of fantasy come true and a charge to fulfil his dreams. Of course, he knew better to let that completely burst out of his skin.

The whole dream was coming together for the whole administration and all of their corporate and industry backers. They were even able to lay down the dictator thirsty way of governing with military rule and authoritarianism under the auspices of freedom.

They were able to get everything they ever wanted. 9-11 was definitely a goldmine for this whole cast of players. Money and power all fell into their hands as long as they played to the American's movie knowledge of the 'Wild West', and 'good vs evil', as the article points out. Our good nation was definitely played by this administration and every corporate backer of this administration. Inelligent folks abroad have lost a lot of respect towards us, and it's going to be a while before we can prove that we are not really that ignorant.

I often ponder why so many people in this country who call themselves conservatives and 'real genuine' people went along with this or just plainly fell for all of these gimmicks. I mean really, how can people be so intellectually wiped out not to have seen this phony act.

I guess they all wanted to be in this cartoon too.

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IT'S IMPEACHMENT TIME, STUPID!
Posted by: ellisonhorne on Jun 1, 2008 7:59 PM   
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To Mr. McClellan I say, thank you for speaking up. While long overdue, your book is much appreciated.

As far as journalism goes, we need many more people like Bill Moyers and those he featured in his outstanding investigative documentary, “Buying the War”, such as John Walcott, Jonathan Landay and Warren Strobel of the, then, Knight Ridder newspapers. They burrowed deep into the intelligence agencies to try and determine whether there was any evidence for the Bush Administration's case for war. “Many of the things that were said about Iraq didn't make sense,” says Walcott. “And that really prompts you to ask, ‘Wait a minute. Is this true? Does everyone agree that this is true? Does anyone think this is not true?’”

As for the White House administration, well, I’ve written about this years ago with little response. The White House Neo-Con-men should be put on trial before the public for the atrocities they have caused. And Speaker Nancy Pelosi should be investigated for aiding them, saying the issue of the Iraq War is “off the table”, and as she states in a letter to me last week, “I believe impeachment proceedings against Vice President Dick Cheney will distract us from our mission…”. Well, to Ms. Pelosi and all those who are relentlessly enabling this epic tragedy of senseless death, shattered lives, broken families, mind-numbing abuses of our hard-earned tax dollars, savage corporate exploitation; I say, there is no justice without impeachment. JUSTICE IS NO DISTRACTION!

And regarding Mr. Conyers, if he prays, I hope he asks for the strength to stand up and finish what he had so thoroughly and courageously begun on impeachment proceedings. The time has come to stand with his allies in the Congressional Black Caucus who made passionate presentations on the eve of the U.S. led invasion on Iraq. I shall forever remember that night in 2003—those powerful words of Rep. Maxine Waters:

“…What we see and we are witnessing is the mismanagement of America. Someone today criticized Senator Daschle because he talked about the diplomatic disaster. Mr. President, it is a diplomatic disaster. We are watching before our very eyes the mismanagement of our beloved country. Our schools are falling apart. You said you wished to leave no child behind, but, Mr. President, you have not funded assistance to education that will have our children in the best possible situations where they can learn. Our health care system has fallen apart. In my city, in my county we are closing healthcare clinics. We are closing hospitals….

Mr. President, you are not able to tell us what this war is going to cost and what the cleanup, what the revitalization, the reconstruction of Iraq is going to cost. The American people need to know where our dollars are going. The American people need to understand the cost of this war and why….

Mr. President, we must raise these questions. We must raise these questions because we are patriots. We are folks who love this country. We are folks who have stood by this country no matter what, and we will continue to stand by this country. We will continue to stand by our soldiers. But, Mr. President, you are going to have to account for the leadership that you are giving, and I say to you and all those who are advising you, be it Wolfowitz, be it Secretary of State Colin Powell, be it Condoleezza Rice, be it Karl Rove, or any of those in the inner circle, you are going to be held responsible for what takes place in this world, what takes place with this preemptive strike, what takes place with our soldiers and our families…."

Indeed, JUSTICE IS NO DISTRACTION! IT'S IMPEACHMENT TIME, STUPID!

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This ties in nicely with what McClellan said about Bush's
Posted by: Quannah on Jun 1, 2008 8:58 PM   
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hard-on to be a "War-Time President" so that he would be "historically significant." (Mind you, McClellan wrote that he said this BEFORE Sept. 11, 2001.)

To Bush, this has all been about his overinflated, bottomless ego. He could give a rat's ass about anyone but himself. A pitiful, spoiled, demented coward is all he is.

War Crimes Tribunal, indeed. Bet he cries real tears over that one.

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Pro-Life, Indeed
Posted by: AlexLawyer on Jun 2, 2008 1:19 AM   
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George W. Bush was an enthusiastic executioner as governor of Texas. He shows no remorse at all for this, nor for the hundreds of thousands of Iraqis and Afghans he has killed, most of them innocent civilians, nor for the 4000+ US military personnel who have died in the furtherance of his sadistic policies. He may from time to time disgorge some boilerplate jingoist rhetoric about those who have served, but he has consistently acted against their interests. He has no qualms about landmining and cluster bombing, acts that will kill and maim children and the poor for decades to come. He authorized forced disappearance and torture, sometimes resulting in death.

Just how he qualifies as "pro-life" is beyond comprehension. He may be moved by the plight of embryos and fetuses, but people with names and lives and families don't concern him or his enabling conservative Christian supporters.

It's unlikely that justice will ever prevail and he and his co-conspirators will be held accountable for their crimes, but let's hope that John McCain is denied the opportunity to continue them. We've seen enough of conservative Christian morality, and neither we nor the rest of the world should have to endure more.

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Reckless Endangerment with Malice & ForeThought
Posted by: Purple Girl on Jun 2, 2008 3:38 AM   
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McClellan may be trying to Save Georgies Ass by portraying him as Ignorant and Arrogant, sparing him above all the others- But it has Failed. He will be the Second to be Prosecuted- only ahead of Rummy & Wolfie, due to his continued highjacked Power Position. No doubt this small minded man was not th emastermind- but he was willing to use the power invested in him to allow such crimes to take place.
Mcclellans 'Tell All' blanantly fails to 'Tell'the obvious Reason for the Illegal Invasion of Iraq- OIL and the It's control, for the Benefit of the multi Nationals and their Foreign "Royal" sponsors.
As soon as boots hit the ground in Afghanistan I Knew this was an Intentional Cluster F*ck.'Through Chaos comes Order', 'Divide & Conquer'.Not just in that Region- But here On OUR SOIL!These Easily Foreseen situtations are a Direct Result of 'Electing' OIL Men to our nations Highest Offices.
Scoty's 'Revelations' regarding the Adminsitration and the Media complicity are mere Crumbs, diversional Red herrings. Why do you think Scotty first went to the 'liberal' media with his interviews. Some have been trying to speak for so long they will Bite at any chance- regardless of it's authenticity. Now that He's been 'softened Up' after running the 'liberal Meia Gauntlet' he's heading to Home Base ...'FOX NEWS' and BillO.By Now the rest of US have heard everything, so BillO's inability to ACT 'pissed off' will only be seen by his legion of Gullible viewers. Bu tin reality Bill's Mission will be to convince his Viewers that this 'TellAll' is evidence Georgie was Used by Cheney for this 'misguided Act of Humanitarian Freedom'..."Coercive Democracy " MY ASS!!! Treason, War Crimes and Crimes Against Humantiy with Malice and Forethought to Seize and Control Power through OIL!!!! AND EVERY'LIBERAL MEDIA OUTLET HAD BEST WIPE THE DROOL OOF THEIR CHIN AND A START DOING THEIR JOB!!!YOU ARE BEING CONNED AGAIN!

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The Mad, Mad, Racist Fantasy World of King George
Posted by: michaelo on Jun 2, 2008 3:40 AM   
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The Mad, Mad, Racist Fantasy World of King George
By
Michael O’McCarthy

Let us peek into The Mad, Mad, Racist Fantasy World of King George as he channels Ronald Reagan, John Wayne and Gary Cooper.

As noted by Tom Dispatch, the noble virtual pamphleteer Tom Engelhardt in his June 2, 2008 chronicle wherein we see the latest revelation into the “self-will run riot,” megalomaniac, mentally ill George W. Bush.

A dry drunk – sometimes wet alcoholic, Bush continues to sit, gripping the arms of the chair behind the Presidential desk in the Oval Office looking at the button device that will launch a nuclear war. His is thinking only of victory. Victory and his legacy of democracy – driven into the land of the infidels by armed measure as is necessary.

Sometimes he channels Charleton Heston, remaining armed in the face of enemies in the night, clenching those arm rests like dual handled fifty caliber machine guns until they tear his “cold dead hands” from their stocks,

Sometimes he relives those moments when he flew trainers dreaming of the day he could say he was a fighter pilot, forgetting he failed his tests – living in the blackout of denial from what surely would have shown to be his drug and alcohol consumption.

But now it’s the eve of his Chief of Command and he is looking back to when he was charged- up … ready to go --- “vengeance be mine” sayeth his Lord sweetly and only in his ear,

The Decider and his raging, spittle flying tirades of war mongering were rallying cheers to those he Commanded with the brain washed, duped support of the United States’ masses. And as we visit his yesteryear we know he thinks, “it may not be too late yet for me to strike!”

Do you doubt?

Do not your palms sweat at the thought of this dying loon, a man who labeled himself “The Decider,” sitting alone in that chair. Knowing his days are numbered. That the shouts that the “King has no clothes on” are growing louder and louder and even once trusted aides are like rats to him, fleeing his sinking ship of state.

And Hagee the evangelical rabble rouser is being marginalized from his heir apparent, the wooshy “war hero” McCain, and the perdition of the heathens and the salvation of world Jewry seems imperiled; the very home of the Second Coming threatened, do you doubt that he is straining forward as I write?

Do you doubt that he his thinking of how he might in one swift commanding moment pick up the phone and say to Herr Cheney, “alright Dick this is it. Put IT into operation.”

And into the peaceful night and dreams of workaday mothers and father and children will come yet some other conceived, connived horror that will once again strike terror into the minds of the dumbed down citizens and they will raise again their voices with his and scream “Kill Them… wipe them out.”

And with that grim, angry-chimp like arrogant smirk of his he will have heard once again his God come “calling” and he will reach forward and push that button…

Do you doubt that he is sitting there right now thinking about that?

I don’t.

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Pelosi was SO wrong
Posted by: motamanx on Jun 2, 2008 3:47 AM   
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Perhaps the day will come when Nancy Pelosi will be in the stocks for her totally inappropriate comment that "Impeachment is off the table".

There was no reason for her to say this, unless she was in on the take also.

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billgee
Posted by: billgee on Jun 2, 2008 4:13 AM   
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After 8 years of insanity, how can anyone be surprised by anything

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tom cady
Posted by: tom cady on Jun 2, 2008 4:14 AM   
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Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities.
-- Voltaire

In a world that contains Laffer Curve, an Axis of Evil, Iraqi Freedom, Mission Accomplished, Clear Skies, Clean Waters, Healthy Forests, Family Values, No Child Left Behind, and a Patriot Act it is a good reminder for our time.

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What I Want To know Is
Posted by: Last Chance on Jun 2, 2008 4:26 AM   
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What did Bush and McCaine talk about in their strategy tent?! I can guess, but I notice Alternet didn't post an article about it, unless I missed it.

Anyway, the Republicans know the only way they can win is to stage another terrorist attack to frighten the voters into again rallying around the President in a time of crisis. Otherwise, a big majority of Americans are disgusted with their fascist war agenda and want a return to democracy.

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GI Joke
Posted by: don_alejandro on Jun 2, 2008 4:47 AM   
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Mad Magazine also offered their version of the Bush action figure, GI Joke.

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Murderous NeoCons
Posted by: US Citizen on Jun 2, 2008 5:22 AM   
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The Unites States has become murderous and barbaric under the murderous and barbaric Bush and Cheney. Maybe we are all getting sick of being violent right-wing NeoCons, who have lost the respect of the rest of the world.

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And McCain is worse
Posted by: JohnJlws on Jun 2, 2008 5:37 AM   
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"God told me to strike at al Qaeda and I struck them, and then he instructed me to strike at Saddam, which I did, and now I am determined to solve the problem in the Middle East." President George Bush 25 June 2003 Haaretz
[According to Palestinian Authority Prime Minister Abu Mazen's account in Arabic of what Bush said in English, written down by a note-taker in Arabic, then back into English.]

I have no idea if the preceding is an accurate description of what Bush said. It sounds real "Bushy," and even that I, an American, can entertain that he might say such an insane thing is probably enough of an indictment.

Obama looks as though he'll be the nominee unless Clinton pulls off a midnight miracle, which I really can't put anything past her and Bill. But, regardless, McCain is worse than Bush. Bush may, at some level, still be pretending "madness;" I don't get that sense with McCain--I think his madness is real.

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» RE: And McCain is worse Posted by: VZEQICVA
ReichWingers are a strange lot...
Posted by: xvictor on Jun 2, 2008 5:37 AM   
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Bush's supporters are a funny, pathetic lot. One time, they had loudly approved the photo op of Bush before Mt. Rushmore way back when and felt his stone image should be mounted there, along with another reichwinger idol of worship, fellow nutcase Ronnie Raygun.

Way back when, blogs and forums were filled Bush sycophants loudly proclaiming he is doing God's work and the world should embrace the entrance of the New American Century. Resistance is futile, they say. Anyone spreaking out against the Lord's laborer and Prime Patriot, Bush, should be fined and imprisoned. The old New York Times forum was filled with the stench of that bunch. Not too long before it was shut down, there was a definitive change in the character of the posts. It was as if the legs were kicked out from underneath the reichwinger posters. It really looked like the game was up for some of them. The few neocons that did remain were mostly incoherent babblers.

The People must take a more critical approach to government. These were the lessons the 60s period taught us. But we forgot them or were placed aside because the neocons had loudly and consistently derided it as nonsense. Government, the neocons say, under the benign administration of the Repugnicans is different this time and should always be trusted and obeyed. "The adults are in charge", they said.

It's not likely those halcyon neconish days will come back. Then again, Americans traditionally have short memories. If so, then God help. God help us all.

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A bunch of Mafiosos
Posted by: Mexitli on Jun 2, 2008 5:39 AM   
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like when one is convicted they all start ratting each other out.

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"let freedom reign" has a secret meaning which most American would not understand
Posted by: Suzon on Jun 2, 2008 5:47 AM   
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To most Americans "freedom" means living without fear of constant examination, constraint and threat. These Americans prefer to live and let live.

However, to the anti-democratic monarchical mind (note the use of the term "reign"), freedom means their personal birthright and entitlement to do whatever they wish without fear of retribution. Killing and torture are the most pleasureable things they can do because they confirm and psychologically reinforce their sense of power. Far from not realising the impact of their actions upon others, they are fully aware of just that.

In some very worrying ways, Bush understands more of the world than the rest of us do.

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Commander or Puppet?
Posted by: ErHoff on Jun 2, 2008 6:17 AM   
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Commander in Chief?
NO!
Puppet in 2001 Coup d'état.

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American Nazis
Posted by: modeler on Jun 2, 2008 6:31 AM   
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Heil Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld etc.etc. Warcriminals par excellence! Lets wipe THEM out.

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Political and Religious Control=Keep the Masses Fearful
Posted by: picket on Jun 2, 2008 7:01 AM   
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Are we ruled by TERRORISTS? Citizens where I live are fearful.

Those that resist unfair rule are made public spectacles and imprisoned. The current Despots and Tyrants may wear different clothing but their faces and mindset of extreme cruelty are the same as their ancestors of old...the monarchs and inquisitors.

The names may be different BUT the faces and actions are the same. They wear the "white hats" and pretend to be the "good" guys...they would LOVE to be more brutal if only they could do away with all those video recorders.

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WHAT HAPPENS WHEN PEOPLE KEEP THEIR MOUTHS SHUT
Posted by: VZEQICVA on Jun 2, 2008 7:24 AM   
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8 years later everybody knows what happened. It's a little late. We have a crazy president.
I wish the Clinton Bashers had been around to bash him when he ran. He looked like a guy I wouldn't sit next to on a bus. Just plain scary. But he stopped drinking and got born again and sold himself as some paragon of virtue. People bought into it. I'll never know why. McCain is also a nut case. What's the appeal? What am I missing? ANNA

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every thing go's better with Mc COcain.
Posted by: wittler youth on Jun 2, 2008 7:24 AM   
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our belt-way insider..see his wife on the view?...wow what a p.r.//coke fueled his rise to power..master bank robber/s&l loan scandel..duh!..put that man in the white house! dress him in black pajamas and a coole hat and salute him as commander in chump...lol..the world needs to go to hell so the cock roaches can go to heaven. a world with out humans.

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Clues from his childhood
Posted by: loneswaneast on Jun 2, 2008 7:26 AM   
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W is simply continuing a pattern that he demonstrated in childhood. Several biographies of the Bush's attest to the fact that he enjoyed torturing and killing animals.
He kills everyone who he considers "not with him". It is no wonder so many people went along with him. If you wanted your life destroyed, you simply needed to pose a question about the judgments being made at the time. Let's not forget the many "lists" that still exist.

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and dont forgit anthrax
Posted by: wittler youth on Jun 2, 2008 7:31 AM   
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yep say the wrong thing around him and git a love letter from g.w. inc....now u know why pelose said impeachment is 'OFF' the table.

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How ironic...
Posted by: HughScott on Jun 2, 2008 7:52 AM   
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that a coward who cut and ran during the Vietnam War -- i.e. Bush quit flying National Guard jets 30 months early, refused to take a mandatory flight physical and went AWOL -- would act so tough in the White House.

Can there be any doubt about the spinelss bastard being delusional?

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Hugh E. Scott, Vietnam vet, ex-USAF pilot, lifelong registered Republican, ARDENT Obama supporter and the editor of www.PhonyFighterPilot.com -- the only website about George W. Bush that presents irrefutable, smoking-gun proof of White House corruption.

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Iraq War Redux: Bush the People Killer
Posted by: HughScott on Jun 2, 2008 8:04 AM   
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On April 7, 2003, under standing orders from George W., a B1 bomber carried out a decapitation strike on a Baghdad restaurant where Saddam Hussein was eating a late lunch. Reportedly.

Shortly after the mission began, the Ace of Spades, suspecting he had been betrayed by someone on his staff, slipped out of the al-Sa’ah restaurant’s backdoor and fled the scene.

Ten minutes later, four 2,000-pound bunker busters dropped by the diverted bomber blew the suburban eatery to bits along with cooks, waiters, bus boys, customers, cashier, pedestrians passing by and the occupants of three nearby homes.

Fourteen civilians died in that Baghdad neighborhood on April 7, people who lost their lives simply for being there, including two young children. Yet back in the United States, few Americans protested the barbaric aspect of the B1 mission, not on TV or in the press anyway. Quite the contrary, there was glorification of Bush’s decision to “take out Saddam,” as so many in his administration enjoyed saying.

Well, that’s not how I felt.

Because I'm a Vietnam veteran who knows something about the misery of warfare, the B1 mission horrified me.

I was also outraged at Bush for allowing such an atrocity to happen. When a president of the United States decides to preemptively strike another country for the first time in American history with massive air power, then, by God, he had better get it right. And that doesn’t mean killing innocent human beings because he has a grudge against their leader.

Republicans will retort, “We killed millions of civilians in World War Two, thousands at a time.” True, but there’s a difference. A humungous one. We didn’t start the hostilities. Germany and Japan did.

The president claims to be a born-again Christian who got a second chance at life when he turned 40. If that’s the case and not just hypocritical bullshit for public consumption, then he’d better get down on his knees and beg forgiveness from Jesus for killing those poor people on April 7. Because if George W. doesn’t show contrition, which I haven’t seen or heard expressed so far, he may end up in the eternal down-under sharing a table with Saddam and his sons in a barbecue joint called “Hell.”

To excuse our cowboy commander-in-chief, Republicans will argue he didn’t give orders to the B1 crew; someone else did. But that reason won’t wash, either. As our nation’s top military leader who authorized the decapitation strike, he has blood on his hands just like Osama bin Laden.

Here’s the nexus in a nutshell. For the loved ones of 9/11 victims, it’s heart-wrenching to hear but must be said. If you believe as I do that human lives are precious, especially those of children who deserve an opportunity to grow up and have kids of their own, then we must face the truth no matter how painful. Other than motivation, the only difference between a B1 dropping bombs on a civilian restaurant from 30,000 feet and someone flying a jetliner into an office building is the number of people that die.

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Iraq War Redux continued
Posted by: HughScott on Jun 2, 2008 8:08 AM   
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As an addendum to my comment above (Iraq War Redux), in 2004 I watched George W. on CNN. He was in the Oval Office answering questions about a retaliatory air assault against Syria by Israeli jets. The reason for the revenge mission was a Hamas suicide bombing of a crowded Jewish eating establishment that killed 20 people.

When asked by a White House reporter if the Israeli raid was justified, Bush glowered and replied sternly, “When Hamas blows up a restaurant with civilians inside, that’s terrorism.”

I kid you not. I heard him say that with my own ears. Those were the exact words spoken by George bin Laden.

To illustrate the extent of Bush’s born-again hypocrisy, read what he said to a group of Iraqi women meeting with him in the White House, as published by its official website on November 17, 2003.

“We’re seeing the nature of Al Qaeda. They’ll kill innocent people anywhere, any time. That’s just the way they are. They have no regard for human life. They claim they’re religious people, but they’re not. Religious people do not murder innocent citizens.”

Dub-ya’s in-your-face theology is one reason why Muslims hate Americans so much. His arrogance shows contempt for non-Christian people, one of the great dangers of commingling politics and religion. The president apparently believes in the name of Jesus he had every right to blow up the al-Sa’ah restaurant and kill (murder) 14 civilians to nail Saddam Hussein.

Conversely, when Muslim insurgents explode a car bomb in Baghdad, he condemns them as godless thugs. Sociologists call that kind of myopic belief system “ethnocentrism,” meaning an emotional attitude that one’s own ethnic group, nation or culture is superior to all others.

It is the bedrock of fascism, not freedom.

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» RE: Iraq War Redux continued Posted by: helenwheels
» RE: Iraq War Redux continued Posted by: Martha Warner
More Lies
Posted by: RedFoxOne on Jun 2, 2008 8:21 AM   
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LOL, yet more lies from Dictator Bush to the American Sheeple. Why am I not surprised. Sooner we get this war monger out of the White hosue the better off we will be.

JT
http://www.Ultimate-Anonymity.com

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World War Too
Posted by: QQOblivion on Jun 2, 2008 8:21 AM   
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Bush, as it is noted, recently compared the recent conflicts the US is engaged in with WW2.
Maybe so. But this time, WE'RE the Nazis!

Bush is evil. He is a bit like Hitler (just a tad, he is...), in that (for one thing) he has a taste for war, has a taste for being the conquerer (even when the "conquering" is a bust for American troops). First it was Afghanistan and Iraq. Next Bush and Cheney will have the US attack Iran, Syria, N Korea, Venezuela, Bolivia, Cuba, on and on.
Countries with leaders like him at least sometimes have their asses kicked, and have their people mass-murdered in the "good" wars.
Remember that, Americans.

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» RE: World War Too Posted by: badkitty
» RE: World War Too Posted by: Lauren
Two Huge Bombs
Posted by: US Citizen on Jun 2, 2008 8:24 AM   
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If the United States dropped two huge bombs on a restaurant full of people just because we thought Saddam Hussein was in the restaurant, we are a very evil country run by extremely evil leaders. Have Bush and Cheney murdered innocent people with impunity? These evil leaders need to be punished severely.

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Think About This
Posted by: gellero1 on Jun 2, 2008 8:48 AM   
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You just captured someone who you know planted a huge car bomb in a civilian market/mosque/whatever.

You have 3 hours to defuse the bomb, or a hundred innocent civilians will die.

Do you resort to torture if gentle persuasion won't work??

PS....No gratuitous 'we shouldn't be there' BS.

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» No Posted by: gellero1
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» ReallY??? Posted by: gellero1
» RE: eallY??? Posted by: Lauren
» Argument?? Posted by: gellero1
» Think About This Posted by: EinMD
» The Constitution Posted by: gellero1
» Or think about this. Posted by: EinMD
» DUNNO...... Posted by: gellero1
» RE: Think About This Posted by: Martha Warner
» That's reasonable......... Posted by: gellero1
» LOL Posted by: gellero1
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» Good question Posted by: robbie.seal
rn
Posted by: mnatra on Jun 2, 2008 9:11 AM   
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The end of victory culture is a great book. But be aware that Noam Chomsky has been talking for years about the govt's manufacture of consent from the American people to enable the support of committing atrocities around the world.
We are all giving consent every day.

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» RE: rn Posted by: grn1
My opinion (in case it matters)
Posted by: willymack on Jun 2, 2008 9:17 AM   
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When I first saw and heard bush in the spring(?) of 2000, I thought to myself: "Now, there's a tinhorn if I ever saw one. If he were president, we'd be in for a world of hurt". This was BEFORE I read Dr. Justin A. Frank's book "Bush on the couch". After reading this fascinating study, I concluded as Dr. Frank did, that bush is, at the very least, mentally ill, and at worst, borderline psychotic. This is, no doubt evident to many in government, who may be loathe to antagonizing bush to the point where he falls off the cliff into full-blown insanity. Bad as he is now, just imagine him as a nut with his finger on our nuclear trigger. That being said, let's try to hold everything together until Jan 20th, 2009, after which time we can go after the crazy bastard and his evil henchmen with the full force of the law.

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» It's Not Just Bush Posted by: socialpsych
Playing a Part, Acting out a Role
Posted by: Elmo409 on Jun 2, 2008 9:36 AM   
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George W. Bush is one of those people who would have a bumper sticker on his pickup truck that says I wasn't born in Texas, but I got here as quick as I could.

When I read the line he has been deeply embroiled in acting out his cartoonish version of the role of the century it reminded me of the 3+ years I lived in Texas during which time Governor Bush mutated into President Bush. If this sounds like an anti-Texas rant, it's not intended as such because I made several very good friends while I lived there and I love them dearly to this day. Still, there was one thing I noticed repeatedly which was that many Texans seemed to be acting out the mythos of what it means to "act like a Texan". All too often it would be a person who wasn't born in Texas but got there as fast as they could.

So ole George has a background of playing a role as a tough guy. A classic example would be how he mocked Karla Fay Tucker when asked about his decision not to commute her sentence.

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war crimes
Posted by: MaryMag on Jun 2, 2008 9:43 AM   
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They're not going to see prosecution, because they won't give up power. We have to remember to be prepared for that. See newsfromunderground.com - Mark Crispin Miller's two part video - with some warnings that should be taken very seriuosly. They can't give up power - they're too close to whatever in the hell it is they're trying to achieve.

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Impeachment is NOT 'off the table'...
Posted by: Voicedude on Jun 2, 2008 9:49 AM   
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...somebody please tell Nancy Palosi!

'nuff said!

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» Never was on the table Posted by: robbie.seal
Impeachment is NOT 'off the table'...
Posted by: Voicedude on Jun 2, 2008 9:51 AM   
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...somebody please tell Nancy Pelosi!

'nuff said!

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Where's the Hard Evidence?
Posted by: Bob May on Jun 2, 2008 9:54 AM   
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We all want to believe that Bush has done whatever he's accused of. Probably most of it is true. Sanchez can say anything about Bush, e.g, he hates his mother and wears women's underware when he visits Tony Blair. It doesn't mean a thing unless Sanchez can give us reliable evidence that substantiates his claim. His reputation from Iraq isn't that good and he wants to sell his book.

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» FINALLY, A post with substance. Posted by: robbie.seal
» Sorry, CSPAN puts me to sleep... Posted by: robbie.seal
Winning Wars Requires Mass Genocide - That's Why They Shouldn't Be Fought
Posted by: rfrancis@godisdead.com on Jun 2, 2008 9:55 AM   
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Look at history, the larger more power army destroyed the enemy army, looted their country, raped their women, and slaughtered civilians indiscriminately and in mass.

They terrorized the enemy into submission.


Somehow we have this mistaken impression that we can depose a leader and his government on the cheap. That any resistance that happens will be minimal and easy to deal with.


Winning requires conquering and utterly destroying the enemy.

Look at WW2, what did we do, we firebombed Germany's major cities killing hundreds of thousands of civilians. We firebombed Tokyo killing hundreds of thousands of civilians, we nuked to Japanese cities killing hundreds of thousands of civilians.

This is the only way to break an enemy and this is why we should avoid war at all costs let alone not starting them.

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JUSTICE IS NO DISTRACTION!
Posted by: ellisonhorne on Jun 2, 2008 12:05 PM   
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Bush and his White House Neo-Con-men (who signed the Project for the New American Century manifesto for world domination at all cost) should be put on trial before the public for the atrocities they have caused.

And Speaker Nancy Pelosi should be investigated for aiding them, saying the issue of the Iraq War is “off the table”, and as she states in a recent letter to me, “I believe impeachment proceedings against Vice President Dick Cheney will distract us from our mission…”. Well, to Ms. Pelosi and all those who are relentlessly enabling this epic tragedy of senseless death, shattered lives, broken families, mind-numbing abuses of our hard-earned tax dollars, savage corporate exploitation; I say, JUSTICE IS NO DISTRACTION! There is no justice without impeachment!

Speaker Pelosi, Rep. Conyers: "IT'S IMPEACHMENT TIME, STUPID!"

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you have to be mad to be president?
Posted by: hilaryuk on Jun 2, 2008 12:07 PM   
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In liberal democracies the road to political power is rocky. It entails being all things to all men, sucking up to the corporate potentates, being attractive enough for the media to love you, having a cornflake ad type of private life, and having access to lots and lots of money. No normal person would warp their whole life just to gain transitory power, so it is disingenuous to be surprised when those who rise to the political peaks are socio/psychopathic, or subject to Walter Mitty type fantasies, or have no real concept that their political games have real life consequence - or even real death ones.

I don't pretend to know what the answer is, but am sure that the way we do what we laughingly label "democracy" has a lot to do with its failure.

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Bush appologists landing on runway Two...
Posted by: EinMD on Jun 2, 2008 12:18 PM   
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Go ahead... make excuses.

Go tell all those families who have lost members to this man's Nero complex. Go tell it to the soldiers who have lost limbs or suffered irreparable brain damage.

Better yet... make excuses to the American people when China invades and we've got to fight them off ourselves with civilian weaponry and broomsticks.

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And the gatekeepers of the "left" STILL assume the role of WEASEL, and support BushCorp...
Posted by: bloggulator on Jun 2, 2008 12:21 PM   
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by refusing to even look into the numerous facts that point to complicity, at the absolute least, in allowing the 9/11 attacks to succeed, thus "justifying" the neoconservative pre-ordained agenda. At the very least, high officials within the Bush Administration are guilty of "accessory before the fact" to mass murder.

In reaction, all that the "left gatekeepers" in many high profile websites (pretending to represent "opposition") can muster up, is a high pitched chorus of "conspiracy theorist!", reminiscent of the playground in any local junior-high school. Insodoing, they are guilty of wholesale intellectual cowardice and pathological denial.

They tend to ignore the fact that the "official line" re. 9/11 is the wildest and most outlandish of all conspiracy theories, and which has extraordinarily little hard evidence going for it, when put under the microscope of detailed, rigorous examination.

The article above demonstrates the sociopathic, even psychopathic, nature of some of the top people in the White House; the deaths of millions abroad as a result of their wargasms doesn't even register; they have no conscience.

But of course, they would never be so evil as to allow (or cause) the collateral damage of 3000 of our own killed in NYC and DC, would they, even if it garnered widespread public and congressional support for an otherwise unsellable, extremist, extremely profitable agenda? Would they? No? Yes?

Since 9/11, a spell has been cast across the country, reinforced by endless repetition in the media, and by wholesale fear of expressing opposition. We are now gradually deprogramming ourselves, but this can take time. It is as if the entire nation has been the unwitting subject of a massive "Solomon Asch" type experiment, in which the (possible) perpetrators of that event took into account the tendency towards individual and collective conformity of opinion, even when aware they are being lied to.

Eventually, the house of cards will collapse. If only the media would do their job now, because the longer they fail to do their civic duty, the worse and more irreparable the damage will become.

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» Are you off you Meds again? Posted by: robbie.seal
President Bush is a puppet
Posted by: Reader11722 on Jun 2, 2008 12:25 PM   
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Enough with Puppet Bush. Zioni$ts pull the strings and his mouth moves. Only Israel benefits from these endless Middle East wars. Iraq is the beginning. As we commit war-crimes in Baghdad, the US gov't commits treason at home by opening mail, eliminating habeas corpus, using the judiciary to steal private lands, banning books like America Deceived (book) from Amazon and Wikipedia, conducting warrantless wiretaps and engaging in illegal wars on behalf of AIPAC's 'money-men'. Soon, another US false-flag operation will occur (sinking of an Aircraft Carrier by Mossad) and the US will invade Iran.. Then we'll invade Syria, then Saudi Arabia, then Lebanon (again) then ....

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RE
Posted by: adrian2514 on Jun 2, 2008 1:04 PM   
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Hey! I don't find this news to be suprising. We've known that this administration has lied to us from day one, and the neocons are the only ones to blame! Good article. I was browsing through political websites and blogs and I came across your blog and find it to be very interesting and informative. There are a bunch of others I like too, like huff post, and other news sites like politico. Do you know of any that cover politics and the environment? I saw earthlab.com which has mostly environmental info (like a pretty cool carbon calculator) but some politics. Are there any other blogs you would recommend? Can you drop me a link to your favorites or any ones with green info?

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» RE: Adrian Posted by: songbird1268
Wooonderful read Tom Engelhardt!
Posted by: Ghoulman on Jun 2, 2008 1:38 PM   
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Yea, Dubya really does play his "cowboy" role well, the perfect free market warrior. A young Reagan! lol!

And he really believed in his role, like any good actor! ROTFL! :D

But then, those who call themselves "conservatives" really do believe these same things Bush revels in. It is a belief in the "values", which are really economic ideologies nefariously mixed with "traditional values" (whatever those are). This all goes back to Friedman economics, yadda, yadda, and it's been well embedded into the national mind mainly because the TV has no problem selling such lowest-common-denominator beliefs... after all, America is the worlds "town sheriff" and anything against that isn't manly. In fact, the gays are most likely behind the "liberal media" and planning to attack Washington right now! Or something like that... it gets weirder the more you read. lol! ;p

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Waiting for the book - " The WAR is ABOUT OIL "
Posted by: Kahoneez on Jun 2, 2008 2:31 PM   
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This idea that BuSh wanted to spread " democracy " is a load of B.S., because his cabal didn't plan the economic destruction of Iraq before the illegal invasion for deeemocrowcie .
They didn't plan before the invasion to sell off Iraqi banks to U.S. & foreign investors by Bremmer increasing foreign ownership possibility of each bank from 35 % to 100 % for deemocrowcie .
They didn't plan the reduction of corporate tax from 35 to 15 % for D. All economic changes made by ORDER 39 , declared by the CPA and Bremmer .
The privatization and selling off Iraq's STATE owned enterprises wasn't done for D. , but for companies like JP MORGAN to swoop in like the predatory VULTURES they are , on the coattails OF THE u.s. MILITARY AND TAKE OVER Iraq's foreign loans . No wonder JP Morgan gave a seat on board of directors to ACCUSED war criminal TONY BLAIR , for one million a year .
Check out what Gregp Palast reported that the reason JAY GARDNER was removed from IRAQ , was for his comments that , " Iraqis would be crazy to give up control of their OIL " AND , they should have elections now " (instead Bremmer stalled for over a year , to set up all the new laws and rules )i.e. like the new law that said the NEW laws , can't be CHANGED .
This devious war was about controlling the flow of oil , permanent bases and militarization of the Middle East, to enforce U.S. foreign policy, or Imperialism on steroids .
McClellan knows damn well the war on Iraq was about OIL .

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Bush will NEVER be prosecuted. EVER.
Posted by: LeaderofMen on Jun 2, 2008 3:50 PM   
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Not a single person in this administration will stand trial for a single thing after they have all left office.

Stop dreaming. They won.

Prove me wrong. Name one person will will stand trial for one crime. ONE. Who will the prosecutor be? Where will this trial be held? Who will be the jury?

NO ONE. When 1-20-2009 comes the admin will simply pass into history. NO trial. No prosecution. No jail time.

In fact, people now in jail will be PARDONED.

Isn't that special???

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» No Wealth?? Posted by: gellero1
Rush to Innocense!
Posted by: Sparks56 on Jun 2, 2008 5:57 PM   
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The rats are eating each other as the ship sinks. The best "No mia culpa" will be Condy Rice's. I can't wait!

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Not a surprise
Posted by: Jeanne on Jun 2, 2008 6:05 PM   
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At this point if W's horns and pointy tail were to fall out, it wouldn't surprise me at all (that's if I actually believed in the devil). The entire administration is corrupt and likely pathologically evil. I don't think a comparison to Hitler is doing them an injustice. Will the US ever live down our acquiescence to their policies? It took Germans a good 40 years before the taint of Hitler's legacy began to fade into the oblivion of history. Americans' culpability is huge given the examples of history and the undeniable fact that we did know we were being lied to -- even if we'd rather not admit it.

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» RE: Not a surprise Posted by: Lauren
But what about Bush43's Co-Conspiritors? [aka MSM executives}
Posted by: Bearzerker on Jun 2, 2008 9:04 PM   
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It's a sad state of MSM affairs when the public must get their news from fake news programs!
The Daily Show & The Cobert Report


I would like to see criminal conspiracy and complicity to commit treason charges
leveled at all the top executives of all Corporate controlled MSM news outlets,
and be taken immediately!

Why?... because they took pages directly from Joseph Goebbels play book;
1.)by assisting in the subversion of truth, in order to lead us into war.
2.)support in diverting TRILLIONS of taxpayers dollars and by profiting in this action.
3.)by supporting GRAFT, GREED & CORRUPTION
3.)material and emotional support of illegal detention and torture, plus condoning these activities including against their own [eg. competitors reporters photographers etc.]
4.)and by providing material and logistical Intelligence and Support contrary to existing conventions knowing that this will effect future war correspondents ability to perform their duties.

and all this was done for one reason... for the bottom line! ...PROFIT!...

But what really pisses me off is,
how the corporate executives running this dog and pony show made it look so ...[sl]easy...
SOMETHING/ANYTHING... MUST BE DONE!

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
'Joseph Goebbels' Quotes;

"If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The
lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State."

"It is the absolute right of the State to supervise the formation of public opinion."

"During a war, news should be given out for instruction rather than information."

"The most brilliant propagandist technique will yield no success unless one fundamental principle is borne in mind constantly - it must confine itself to a few points and repeat them over and over"
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We must ensure a quality control mechanism to
eliminate Propaganda emanating from government agencies.

This can easily be done by revoking broadcasting rights to broadcast News information. News should never be infotainment trivalised for the bottom line, news reporting is a serious business and should be classified as such by being a privilege to broadcast... that being by issuing licenses that is separate from their regular broadcast licenses!

Simply put... a broadcast license fee structure should be reviewed yearly and with bottom line penalties for corporate structures that do not have regulated news coverage, rewarding those that do have licensed news reporting by being exempt from the yearly somberquete.

News licensing guidelines must be enforced to ensure non-governmental interference in the future, their-fore the licensing body MUST BE non-political.
[Don't need a repeat of Colin Powell's son issuing broadcast licenses now do we, never forget that]
To much damage has been brought through the corporate streamlining of news and information sources to our societies detriment, action is needed now.
Crimes have been perpetrated by and through this medium, and the sheeple "DO" care!

to all the Patrick Fitzgerald's out there... where are you?
now... right NOW... is your time!


jdfu

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FANG PI
Posted by: fg on Jun 2, 2008 10:15 PM   
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to the whole damn "administration."

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Me Ranting
Posted by: meranting on Jun 2, 2008 10:56 PM   
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Where's the shocking part? The only thing shocking at this point is that we have a wuss like Harry Reid and frozen Face Pelosi to rely on to pull us out of this mess.

I rant here as well

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He is the President and he is us.
Posted by: Domingo Nieves on Jun 3, 2008 6:05 AM   
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I agree that President Bush boldly and with reckless abandon acts out several American ideals related to our use of raw power and our desire for dominance. But I suggest that we review our American history and acknowledge that we have long and eagerly pursued this thread, from our armed struggle for independence, to our push from "sea to shining sea", and on to our role in the great world wars of the 20th century, etc. Most of us who condemn our war in Iraq do so not because we have any issue with warmaking per se, we mainly regret these particular results.
Bush provides an exaggerated example of our lust for power and control, and perhaps he may yet lead us to begin to question our loving embrace of those values. Perhaps.

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My Bible Must Have a Misprint
Posted by: WaldoMaui on Jun 3, 2008 7:41 AM   
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My copy claims that in the Sermon on the Mount Jesus said,"Love your enemies."

G.W. Bush's copy of the Bible apparently says, "Love your enemies by killing them. Verily I say unto you, love them by waging war against them."

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steph991@verizon.net
Posted by: steph01 on Jun 3, 2008 3:22 PM   
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He is just a fotunate idiot, born into a position of wealth and empowerment. A pile of dogshit elected as president would give us the same result.

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I hope this is BS
Posted by: robbie.seal on Jun 4, 2008 1:05 PM   
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What is this person's source? There are some numbskulls that think they are missionaries, but this is definitely not in accordance to US Military regulations AND would result in immediate discipline. In fact, the Marines noted above were disciplined and removed from the country shortly after their actions were discovered.

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Do not let Bush and his Administration Leave the Oval Office with Dignity
Posted by: NDK on Jun 6, 2008 6:16 AM   
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It would be a huge mistake for the American people to let the Second Shrubbery leave the Oval Office and White House with dignity, as if his presidency is some triumph, that he can walk away from with a Texas strut and swagger. To let him end his tenure with dignity after all the lies, death, flout of international law, without having handcuffs on his wrists would simply be one of the most loathsome things to allow him or his administration.

It would be letting him get away with it.

It would be a flout of rule of law, the foundation of democracy. The best way for Bush to leave office is in shame, redfaced, head bowed, shambling and shuffling for his crimes against democracy, freedom, humanity, law, international treaties and conventions. And the same goes for Cheney, Rice and others some of whom have already left office having "got away with it." They must not get away with it.

If the American people allow this, then the morality of America is damned and will be virtually impossible to reclaim for the next 100 years, and that's being generous.

However, the immediate reclamation of some vestige of democratic virtue would be reclaimed in the eyes of the world when the American People act to ensure that these criminals do not walk waving and jovial from the offices whose duties they have perverted, sullied, and betrayed.

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Isn't Compassionate Conservatism
Posted by: desidid on Jun 8, 2008 4:59 AM   
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a blessing?

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Mea Culpa America!
Posted by: ErHoff on Jun 8, 2008 6:12 AM   
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Americans lack compassion. Compassion being when one realizes that we are all equal when it comes to some inalienable rights.

Why are freedom fighters terrorists when they defend their home, while invaders are saints for killing families?


Try these on:

"They are innocent"
"We are guilty"

"When you support invading forces, you are a terrorist."

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