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1776: The Greatest Counter-Insurgency Failure Ever

By Andrew Exum, Comment Is Free. Posted April 16, 2008.


Would General Petraeus have been able to keep the colonies in the fold?
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Recent weeks have witnessed horrific fighting in Basra, where the British army turned over the province to the control of the Iraqi government last year. Questions are being raised as to how effective the army was in the early years of the Iraq war and whether or not it allowed Shia militias to take root and grow in southern Iraq to the point where taking action against them would have meant combat operations as bloody as the American-led offensives on Fallujah in 2004.

These questions are good ones. To a large degree, the British went into southern Iraq confident their imperial history and recent experience in Northern Ireland gave them a leg up on the U.S. army and Marine Corps -- relative neophytes to counterinsurgency warfare. But every insurgency, as Lieutenant General Sir John Kiszely is right to stress [PDF], is sui generis. Going into southern Iraq and treating Basra province like an Arabic-speaking County Antrim was always going to end in heartbreak.

That does not mean, however, that we cannot learn general lessons that can be applied to most insurgencies and post-conflict environments. Recently, senior British army officers have privately expressed horror at the rapid degree to which the U.S. military has learned to wage population-centric counterinsurgency warfare effectively, in contrast to the British military, which has, in their estimation, remained intellectually rooted in its 20th-century experiences in Ireland and Malaya. Having turned down an American offer to help draft the new U.S. counterinsurgency manual issued in 2006, the British army is now scrambling to draft and publish a new manual of its own.

But maybe the British army was never that good at counterinsurgency warfare in the first place. In fact, the very existence of the United States of America points toward an 18th-century counterinsurgency failure of epic proportions. At the moment, Americans are reliving their revolutionary era through HBO's slick new mini-series on founding father John Adams. But this interest in the American Revolution surely opens the door onto an interesting thought experiment: What would have happened had the British army applied contemporary counterinsurgency doctrine against those pesky colonists in the 18th century?

This question is one currently being asked by several smart U.S. army and Marine Corps officers who have taken their experiences fighting insurgencies in Iraq and Afghanistan and applied them to historical analysis of other American wars. In his paper [PDF] on British counterinsurgency efforts in the American south during the revolution, U.S. Marine Corps Lieutenant Colonel Paul Montanus notes with incredulity that while the British army garrisoned over 15,000 troops to defend New York City, only 8,500 men were left to execute counterinsurgency operations in the south. That meant the British had a troops-to-population ratio of 2:195 -- far below what most contemporary military planners would deem necessary to fight an effective counterinsurgency campaign.


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Not quite a counter-insurgency model
Posted by: brunowe on Apr 16, 2008 9:16 AM   
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Although the southern theatre did see partisan commanders such as Marion, the Continental Army did try to fight as a conventional force. Witness its stand-up battles at Long Island, Brandywine, White Plains, etc. Greene also tried to do the same, although he lost at Guilford Courthouse.

The strategy was less guerrilla warfare than sort of a strategic rope-a-dope, maintaining the importance of keeping the armies intact. The forces often avoided battle and would see their number diminish due to desertion, disease, etc. but there was an identifiable standing force kept in the field.

Certainly, Washington took advantage of perceived British weaknesses, hence the successful surprise attacks at Trenton, Stony Point and Paulus Hook. However, there was no dispersal and melting into the population by the Continental Army.

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REFER TO 'MILITARY INSIGHTS', OCTOBER 2006
Posted by: VZEQICVA on Apr 16, 2008 11:45 AM   
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At the behest of then Lt. Gen D. Petraeus the manual was revised. "COIN is hard to do well", "significant casualty tolerance". Prof. Sarah Sewall spells it all out and it's not at all what we were told. Nobody ever said that we can expect more casualties but that's what happened. It didn't work and our people paid a price. This paper (6 pages) is still on the Military Insights Web page. It's worth a read. Thanks, ANNA

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RE: My God what a great article
Posted by: Crazy H on Apr 17, 2008 10:38 AM   
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BZZZT!

If you actually bothered to read their writings, you would come to an entirely different conclusion.

"In every country and in every age, the priest has been hostile to liberty. He is always in alliance with the despot, abetting his abuses in return for protection to his own."
-Thomas Jefferson

"And the day will come when the mystical generation of Jesus, by the supreme being as his father in the womb of a virgin will be classed with the fable of the generation of Minerve in the brain of Jupiter."
-Thomas Jefferson, Letter to John Adams, April 11, 1823

"Religions are all alike – founded upon fables and mythologies."
-Thomas Jefferson

"The doctrine of the divinity of Jesus is made a convenient cover for absurdity."
- John Adams

"It is the duty of every true Diest to vindicate the moral justice of God against the evils of the Bible."
- Thomas Paine

"What influence in fact have Christian ecclesiastical establishments had on
civil society? In many instances they have been upholding the thrones of political tyrrany. In no instance have they been seen as the guardians of the liberties of the people. Rulers who wished to subvert the public liberty
have found in the clergy convenient auxiliaries. A just government, instituted to secure and perpetuate liberty, does not need the clergy."
- James Madison

"During almost fifteen centuries has the legal establishment of Christianity been on trial. What has been its fruits? More or less, in all places, pride and indolence in the clergy; ignorance and servility in the laity; in both, superstition, bigotry and persecution."
- James Madison

"The government of the United States is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion."
- George Washington

". . . Some books against Deism fell into my hands. . . It happened that they wrought an effect on my quite contrary to what was intended by them; for the arguments of the Deists, which were quoted to be refuted, appeared to me much stronger than the refutations; in short, I soon became a thorough Deist."
- Benjamin Franklin

"Lighthouses are more helpful than churches."
- Benjamin Franklin

"I almost shudder at the thought of alluding to the most fatal example of the abuses of grief which the history of mankind has preserved-- the Cross. Consider what calamities that engine of grief has produced!"
- John Adams

"I do not believe in the creed professed by the Jewish Church, by the Roman Church, by the Greek Church, by the Turkish Church, by the Protestant Church, nor by any Church that I know of. My own mind is my own Church. Each of those churches accuse the other of unbelief; and for my own part, I disbelieve them all."
- Thomas Paine

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» RE: which is more binding? Posted by: flagg3288
RE: My God what a great article
Posted by: Livemike on Apr 25, 2008 12:35 AM   
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Far from being religiously uniform the colonies were amazingly diverse in religious opinion. Many of the Founding Fathers were deists, including Tom Paine, there were baptists, anabaptists, Quakers, Catholics, Presbyterians not to mention Jews. What united them was not their religion but their opinion that it was not the King of England's business what it was. Now sure you could argue that they were all Christians and therefore could get along easily, but they didn't in Germany in the 1620s or England in the 1640s.

Morally also it's hard to see Americans as 'united' except in their rejection of the British. The slave debates alone should put paid to that idea.

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Hmmm....
Posted by: badkitty68 on Apr 17, 2008 7:34 AM   
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Am I missing something here? Isn't it kinda ludicrous to nitpick the British handling of Basra, southern Iraq, or anything else,when no one should have been invading in the first place? It's like discussing which deck hands could have done things differently on the Titanic, when if the Captain had been practicing due diligence, the Titanic wouldn't have sank in the first place. The British were there solely because of CheneyBushCo, and a bald-faced con perpetrated against the American people, our allies, and the rest of the world. The invasion was illegal, immoral, and an epic debacle that has virtually destroyed American credibility worldwide. Iraq is in shambles and the cost of this obscenity will probably not be known for decades. That's what history is going to show about this decade, and it won't be a pretty picture.

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I don't think Petraeus would approve of this comparison...
Posted by: thoughtcriminal on Apr 17, 2008 2:53 PM   
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Definitely not for public consumption at least. Can you imagine some TV talking head interviewing Petraeus and asking him to compare the American Revolution against British corporate colonial rule (and that's what it was - that was British East India Co. tea that was dumped in the Boston Harbor, right?)

Then there's the issue of French support for the American Revolution... of course the French went on to get defeated in Haiti in a successful slave revolt that also helped bring down Napoleon - maybe the French example in Haiti is another worthwile comparison here?

Hang on while I run this one by the Petraeus Information Operations Team. . .

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» Well Said, Scientz. Posted by: citizen chump