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Militarism Is Deeply Entrenched in the American Psyche

By William Astore, Tomdispatch.com. Posted February 6, 2008.


The military is not from Mars. We must understand its endless appeal if we ever hope to change it.
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Hardly a week passes in which we don't hear about what the fallout from two disastrous wars is doing to the overextended, overstrained U.S. military, not to speak of the problems the armed forces are facing in retaining and recruiting members. Recently, there have been reports on a startling rise in war-related suicides, figures that "could push the Army's overall suicide rate to its highest level since [it] began keeping such records in 1980"; on a possible link between the concussions one in six American combat troops suffer from roadside bombs in Iraq and a heightened risk of developing post-traumatic stress disorder or a variety of other ailments; on another lowering of recruitment standards ("the percentage of new recruits entering the Army with a high school diploma dropped to a new low in 2007 ..."); on increasingly over-deployed, ill-equipped, ill-prepared Reserve and National Guard units that may be incapable of coping with future domestic crises ("Guard readiness has continued to slide since last March, when the panel found that 88 percent of Army National Guard units were rated 'not ready ...'"); and on the ever more slippery slope downhill in the "forgotten war" in Afghanistan. This is certainly one aspect of the U.S. military equation -- the one readers at Tomdispatch are most likely to hear about.

But there is another aspect to this -- and it's important. Retired U.S. Air Force Lieutenant Colonel William Astore last wrote for this site on military officials and right-wing politicians who were preparing their own exit strategies from Iraq in the form of stab-in-the-back theories. Now, he makes clear how striking it is that, under the most demanding of conditions, volunteers still arrive at military recruitment offices in surprising numbers; and, no less significantly, that Americans still trust their military above all other institutions in this society. Consider his canny analysis of what to make of this below. Introduction written by TomDispatch editor Tom Englehardt.

The Tenacity of American Militarism
What Progressives and Other Critics Don't Get about the U.S. Military

By William J. Astore

Recent polls suggest that Americans trust the military roughly three times as much as the president and five times as much as their elected representatives in Congress. The tenacity of this trust is both striking and disturbing. It's striking because it comes despite widespread media coverage of prisoner abuse at Abu Ghraib, the friendly-fire cover-up in the case of Pat Tillman's death, and alleged retribution killings by Marines at Haditha. It's disturbing because our country is founded on civilian control of the military. It's debatable whether our less-than-resolute civilian leaders can now exercise the necessary level of oversight of the military and the Pentagon when they are distrusted by so many Americans.

What explains the military's enduring appeal in our society? Certainly, some of this appeal is obvious. Americans have generally been a patriotic bunch. "Supporting our troops" seems an obvious place to go. After all, many of them volunteered to put themselves in harm's way to protect our liberties and to avenge the terror attacks of September 11, 2001. For this, they receive pay and benefits that might best be described as modest. Trusting them -- granting them a measure of confidence -- seems the least that could be offered.

Before addressing two other sources of the military's appeal that are little understood, at least by left-leaning audiences, let's consider for a second the traditional liberal/progressive critique. It often begins by citing the insidious influence of Eisenhower's "military-industrial complex," throwing in for good measure terms like "atrocity," "imperialist," "reactionary," and similar pejoratives. But what's interesting here is that this is often where their critique also ends. The military and its influence are considered so tainted, so baneful that within progressive circles there's a collective wringing of hands, even a reflexive turning of backs, as if our military were truly from Mars or perhaps drawn from the nether regions where Moorlocks shamble and grunt in barbarian darkness.


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William J. Astore is a retired lieutenant colonel (USAF). He has taught cadets at the U.S. Air Force Academy, officers at the Naval Postgraduate School, and currently teaches at the Pennsylvania College of Technology. He is the author of Hindenburg: Icon of German Militarism(Potomac Press, 2005), among other books. He may be reached at wastore@pct.edu.

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Entrenched as religion
Posted by: Lector on Feb 6, 2008 12:39 AM   
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During the 90’s, and in my ignorance, my experience in the military was 100 per cent positive but circumstances have changed and people in today’s economy and those who sign up are mostly motivated by less by patriotism and more by the steady paycheck. My call to the colors was like a priest’s calling to the Church, there is little difference, both have hierarchies of strict authority, both require sacrifices and fighting an enemy, both of these “sacred” organizations take good care of you. But woe to you if you do not toe the line; they will squash you like a steamroller. All totalitarian systems do.

Pointless

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» RE: ntrenched as religion Posted by: Dorothee
An Honorable Institution Used For Dishonorable Things
Posted by: NoPCZone on Feb 6, 2008 1:04 AM   
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I served 8 years in the United States Army. I didn't do it because I needed a job or had no other option- I enlisted because I had the desire to serve my country for a period of time, and one's youth is well suited to that end. I was not alone in the nature and purpose of my service and actually was more commonly the rule rather than an exception to it.

My work was rather unusual in that I worked with people in every layer and sector of our armed forces at different times and got a big picture view that few see, especially in their 20's.

The author's observations concerning the diversity and meritocracy were certainly accurate during my service during the 1980's- although things might have changed since then. During that time the average recruit coming in was as academically well prepared and educated as the average college undergrad. No GED's, jailbirds or gang bangers need apply.

One of the things most characteristic of the military is that it allows exceptional young people to assume great responsibility at a fairly young age- something rarely seen in the private sector. Great responsibility, a high standard of discipline and and expectation of excellence was the everyday expectation from the Corporals and Specialists serving as Team Leaders in field units through the Commanders up at HQ. It was a no-excuses environment- very binary with few, if any, shades of gray.

It also allows kids of all kinds of backgrounds a chance to define their lives by what they can do- not based upon who their mom or dad is or what their family standing is in the community. Race, ethnicity and sex were not as important as the ability of one to perform, achieve and excel. I didn't see the racial or sexual hostility that others have reported as the norm. What I saw was an institution committed to excellence, honor and duty that strived to be class and color blind. A meritocracy.

All was not perfect, as the institutional conservatism and tradition in some ways hinders forward thinking and proactive change. But at the same time I saw Officers and NCOs dedicated to lessons-learned and best practices to try to compensate for that institutional tendency.

The Army and other branches are composed of citizens of every race, class, gender and orientation our nation has. It is in many ways a reflection of our nation- good and bad. The overwhelming majority of those in it's ranks are some of our best and brightest people who love their country, love the people they serve with and love the challenges that come from the sometimes difficult demands of an unusual job.

They are willing to serve the nation if it means their very lives. That is an uncommon commitment in this age of vacillation and equivocation. They are a national treasure that our nation and it's civilian leadership should not misuse or take for granted.

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» excellence, honor and duty? Posted by: deborama
» Anecdotal Posted by: NoPCZone
Military equality
Posted by: Jbuuty on Feb 6, 2008 1:18 AM   
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I'll be honest. I'm not a patriot. I like my country, but I feel no compulsion to kill or die for it. I'd die for my family and friends, but not for such an abstract entity. That said, it is easy to guess that I've never been in the military. This is not my main point.

However, I have always admired the racial equality in the military. It is a sad statement on our society that it is only in an organization made for killing that we can find racial equality. Why can't our universities, churches, and so forth do this?

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» defense Posted by: openhouse
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» RE: defense Posted by: openhouse
» RE: defense Posted by: oldumbo
» the end Posted by: openhouse
» RE: the end Posted by: oldumbo
» accountable Posted by: openhouse
» RE: Military equality Posted by: JayD
As a Liberal I Reject These Characterizations ...
Posted by: mmckinl on Feb 6, 2008 1:44 AM   
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I agree with much of the description of the enlisted military, it's apppeal for young men, the character it builds and the service these young soldiers give to their country.

I can only speak for myself , but yes, I detest the Military Industrial Congressional Complex and the useless expenditure of trillions of dollars for ever more militarism but this is not about the soldiers, and for me it never was.

I was outraged at the shortage of up armoured vehicles, the shortage of ammo and night vision battteries, the tainted water from Haliburton, the parents having to buy their children their own body armor, the neglect of the wounded at Walter Reed and all the other negligence that has been inflicted on our soldiers.

What I detest is the use of these young adults in preemptive, interventionist and imperialistic adventures supposedly on my behalf. What I detest is the suggestion that I do not care about our soldiers when this is all a ruse to defer the public's attention away from procedures, policies and procurements that are of, for and about public/private military careerism, profligate waste of tax payer money on ever more expensive and wasteful weapons systems, unneeded Congressional district earmarks, votes bought by military contractors political donations, ever more overseas military bases and the increasingly threatening posture of our rhetoric, deployment and indeed use of our miilitary.

I don't know what liberal the lieutenant colonel was speaking of in this piece, but it sure the hell wasn't me. The lieutenant colonel had better take a good look at the institution of our war machine , public and private, and ask himself whether these soldiers patriotism isn't being abused to enable the careers, the profit and the belligerence of those in power.

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Militarism is "Deeply Entrenched" by Design
Posted by: Mister_PsyOps on Feb 6, 2008 2:20 AM   
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It was not always so as the founders constantly warned of pointless militarism. But militarism by military complex design was built by a parasite criminal elite that “entrenched” its vision of military might and history as indispensable to American virtue, valor and moral "spirit". And all of it based on history taught by and for those who use the military machine for their own purpose.

In other words, all global wars have ultimately been fought over wealth for private power. But that wouldn’t read very well for patriotism and “God on our side” morality.

So in the modern age we have the usual war propaganda as history…

WW I was necessary to stop German aggression, etc. This is a complete lie especially for American involvement that was brokered purely for blood money by JP Morgan, Rockefeller and Rothschild dynasties.

WW 2 was “the good war” that had to be fought against unexpected tyranny. Another lie as anyone can discover in finding out what American and British robber barons funded and enabled Hitler’s Germany from the ashes of WW I straight through WW 2.

Of course Vietnam was a complete fraud begun at the Gulf of Tonkin betrayal.

Then we have Gulf War I where CIA asset Saddam was officially baited to take Kuwait and betrayed days after for American invasion.

And we come to an utterly phony 9/11 “war on terror” that our presidential candidates promise to keep going indefinitely.

In sum, this is about constant and relentless brainwash escalated to the drumbeat of a gimcrack and lethal religion. It is only blind faith wrapped in the flag or religion itself that can be counted on to kill and kill again, no questions asked.

This is less about psyche than about murder and deception for the usual motive.



“Those that can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities.”
Voltaire

“Who controls the past controls the future. Who controls the present controls the past.”
Orwell

“If tyranny and oppression come to this land, it will be in the guise of fighting a foreign enemy.”
James Madison (father of the U.S. Constitution)

“A state of War only serves as an excuse for domestic tyranny.”
Alexander Solzhenitzyn

“It is my conviction that killing under the cloak of war is nothing but an act of murder.”
Doctor Albert Einstein


"Our Western history is every bit as distorted, censored and largely useless as that of Hitler's Germany or the Soviet Union or Communist China..."
Antony Sutton

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love the military, hate militarism
Posted by: sliver on Feb 6, 2008 4:28 AM   
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This writer seems to assume a lot about liberals. He is clearly not a liberal, because of his repetition of the right-wing lie about John Kerry insulting the soldiers stuck in Iraq. Kerry was clearly talking about George Bush, not about common soldiers.

The writer also does not seem to differentiate between the military and militarism, using the words interchangeably. Forming a military is essential to our country, and we all agree that our soldiers and officers should be commended for their service. Militarism, on the other hand, is the bloodlust to use those soldiers to kill, kill, kill our enemies. Sometimes those enemies are real, but militarism creates imagined enemies (Iran) and use of unnecessary force creates more real enemies than we started with (Iraq).

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» RE: You're right, I read it wrong Posted by: daniel347x
» Imagined enemies Posted by: openhouse
» RE: Imagined enemies Posted by: emmas
» naivete Posted by: openhouse
Terrorist
Posted by: HeKnew on Feb 6, 2008 4:30 AM   
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We're fighting in Columbia, too.

Government of the people, by the people and for the people.

Direct Democracy

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OK, how come....
Posted by: Marlena on Feb 6, 2008 4:39 AM   
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the US is spending hundreds of billions on the military, but...our soldiers are so broke(n)?
Seems to me that the military industrial complex "needs" more and more expensive toys, while those who use those toys are getting less and less? I know that at the bases near me, Tidewater Virginia, new assigns are given information on how to apply for welfare, while down the road in NC, Blackwater is paying mercenarys over $100,000 a year plus benefits?? Or across the water at the ship yard there is the next class of super carrier getting ready?? So..follow the $$$$ the soldiers sure aren't getting it,,,it's going to expensive deadly toys, and then into the pockets of the corps that run our nation. And that IS fascism

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» RE: OK, how come.... Posted by: VZEQICVA
otto
Posted by: otto on Feb 6, 2008 5:50 AM   
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In the 60's I taught high school in Texas. A nice young man came back from Vietnam to finish his high school. I had him describe 'real life" in the marines to other students. He described, with enthusiasm even though he said it was like brain-washing, the boot camp experience. They were beaten down and humiliated until they were nothing; then built up to find their pride and identity as a marine. I see this "brain-washing as another factor. While I see an educational value in looking out for the common good rather than just one's individual wants or goods, this sounds like an extreme mentality that supports the militaristic outlook.

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True Enlightment
Posted by: curiousdwk on Feb 6, 2008 6:08 AM   
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When two viewpoints are pitted against one another, in the final analysis, the thing that will strike you the most is not who was right or wrong, strong or weak, wise or foolish, etc... but who would go to the greatest lengths in considering the other's perspective.

This article does a great job of presenting "the other's perspective". It isn't enough to rail, but we must understand. To empathize is to understand what and why a person thinks and feels the way(s) that they do. This article helps us to understand these people.

Thank you for sharing these thoughts.

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» Understanding The Other Posted by: Cathyc
Trash culture
Posted by: LMNOP on Feb 6, 2008 6:15 AM   
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Now that we know how the military might be used, I can’t see why anybody would want to subject himself or herself to being abused and put in harm’s way for nothing, short of needing something from the military, like training or a better job than minimum wave serving burgers. But they will. Even here in this thread, there’s still so much positivity for the military and what it does. I guess that’s the point of the article.

The indoctrination of the American people is very thorough in this area, just as it is with voting and a dozen other issues. You’ll never get people to understand how little their military service serves the rest of us any more than you’ll get them to admit the obvious about their vote not mattering even when America was a democracy. Americans are told otherwise, emphatically and frequently, and that’s all there is to it. Most people are putty, passively and uncritically being embossed with bad and erroneous ideas: America good. Voting good. Military good. Drugs bad. Socialism bad. Taxes bad. Government bad. Terrorists evil. It’s pretty discouraging.

A few of you will know what I’m talking about, but most of you will just consider these words offensive nonsense. That’s fine. I already know that. That’s why I have no energy to try to buck it any more. America and Americans are hell-bent on waging stupid, horribly expensive, wasteful, useless and cruel wars. It’s what we do. Iraq and Drugs for two. Those two have no end. They can’t be won. That’s the beauty in the eyes of those prosecuting them. If I hated America, I would wish those two things on it, irreversibly, inextricably. Consider it done anyway.

But not all wars are unwinnable. You’ve got the war on the Constitution and civil and human rights. That’s a one-sided rout. You’ve got the war on the middle and lower classes. That one’s over. We lost. Those two go right to the heart of what America used to be, just like the wars democracy. Diebold and the Republicans won that one too. This is now a banana republic without the bananas. I love how everyone is glued to his or her news sources to see how Stupor-Tuesday turned out. Even Fox News is reporting on hacking elections, yet people go on rooting like it’s not the political equivalent of “pro” wrestling.

The war on the dollar and the economy is going swimmingly if you’re rooting for economic disaster. Bread and circuses. Trash for culture. Most good things under assault.

What I’ve learned is that none of that matters much after all, and that I can live without freedom, democracy, public prosperity, national optimism, pot or patriotism. Losing those things doesn’t really affect me nearly as much as I thought that it would. I like my job, love my wife and dogs, I’m happy to stay in with my books and computer. I’m not bored or sick or financially strapped. So, I’m OK with it all. Plus, I’m only here for a few more years to trade my skills for retirement buckos, and then I’m gone to a better place.

Carry on.

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» RE: Trash culture Posted by: mrcentrist
» RE: Trash culture Posted by: dcguide
I am a military veteran, too.
Posted by: douglashoyt on Feb 6, 2008 6:23 AM   
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This author does a very good job explaining the social aspect of the military. However, the military is the force, the physical power, supporting a corrupt ruling elite.

He does the work of the ruling elite by promotion of the "opportunities" within the military for the "under classes" that makes it a respectable organization.

But the facts draw a stark picture: the military industrial complex exploits the "under classes," the young and naive.

We see that once the usefulness of the soldier ends the ruling elite/plutocracy cheat on the obligations owned. This is just the new "industrialization of war."

Mr. Astore has the details right, but his perspective is too small, narrow and wrong.

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a military draft is the answer
Posted by: zooeyhall on Feb 6, 2008 6:30 AM   
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The rah-rah "Go Army" types have watched Rambo too many times. The answer is to institute a military draft. Once the idea sinks into the minds of some of these kids (and their parents) that they have a REAL chance of getting into a situation where their asses can get shot off--their attitude would change in a BIG hurry.

When the letter arrives in their mailboxes:

"Greetings. You have been selected for induction into the Armed Services of the United States. Please report at ______ on the following date _____. Failure to comply can result in prosecution under Federal Law ....."

Then these kids and their parents will realize that war isn't like watching a Superbowl game.

More impassioned pleading, more carefully reasoned arguments by the anti-war people aren't going to change things.

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» RE: a military draft is the answer Posted by: wonkywriter
» RE: military draft is not the answer Posted by: left_libertarian
Golly Gee
Posted by: GollyGee on Feb 6, 2008 6:33 AM   
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Wow Colonel, are you out of it! This is the same old senile, retired-military crap I hear at every VFW bar.

Sorry, but our military does not represent diversity. That ended with the draft. Today it is heavy with the young, the poor, the ignorant, the rural, the problematic.

So yes, the boonies of PA would be a good place for you to meet folks who know someone in the service. So would small-town MI, WV, AL. (Yet even with a collapsing economy the military has to keep lowering standards to attract recruits.)

Sorry to tell you Colonel, but you're living in the past and our all-volunteer army ain't nothing like your imaginary one.

At one time there would have been riots and lynchings at home had the government treated combat troops the way it treats them now: defective body armor, defective vehicles, extended tours and stop-loss, shoddy treatment of the wounded and disabled, reneging on benefits — and yet all the while lavishing riches on private armies like Blackwater and Custer Battles.

Colonel, the corporate crowd, Bush, Cheney, Rummy and their bosses have consistently shown what they really think of military service — yet blockheads like you seem to fear progressives (thanks for not using "Libral.")

Other than putting those now-long-gone yellow ribbons on the truck, few Americans, progressive or conservative seem anxious to have any personal contact with the military — except when the nation is really under threat.

This how it should be: the history of standing Armies, Athens vs Sparta, etc.

Even on Mars it should be clear by now the troops in Iraq or at the other 800 bases scattered around the globe are not there to defend American liberties.

Fortunately the military people I know are much better informed than you, and they realize the corporate plan is to replace any pretense of a real citizen militia with a private police force.

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You left out the most important reason
Posted by: daw13 on Feb 6, 2008 6:38 AM   
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The main reason people still love the military is because they believe that in a world of clashing civilization the toughest gang wins, and we are potentially still the toughest. Just unleash the military and let them do their thing.

This is the biggest lie the Neocons have successfully sold the public. In fact, our foreign policy is a shambles, our ability to control the world is a myth.

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» RE: Oh say can you seeee! Posted by: Sushi
Another point of view...
Posted by: allUneedislove on Feb 6, 2008 6:46 AM   
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Some of us don't support the military in any way, shape or form. It's called pacifism.

It's nice for me to "understand" America's embrace of the military, but we should be constantly working towards a world in which it isn't necessary. Remember the Department of Peace? Actively seeking diplomatic solutions long before they become impossible? Or -- heaven forbid -- acting towards others in the world with support and helpfulness instead of imperialism and greed? Anyone hearing me?

I am dismayed that "progressive" these days seems to equal sympathy for, acceptance of, and ultimately support of militarism.

Too few seem to get what Kucinich was saying. But then again, Alternet has dropped the ball big-time when it comes to exploring what Kucinich and his fans hold dearly. I'm looking for an alternative to Alternet. I'm tired of this.

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"Demasculinized"?? Militarist Mythologies
Posted by: RegK on Feb 6, 2008 6:49 AM   
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An interesting coinage; I believe the existing word for this projection is 'emasculated'--or did the author not want to use that word because of its misogynist history and overtones? So, is masculinity really all about violence and killing after all? Shouldn't we be teaching a new way to these disadvantaged kids who are being seduced and recruited? Poor rural and inner city kids do not, by the way, have a natural attraction to the military. Kerry may have said it the wrong way, but he was right: low-performing students opt for the military because their other choices are limited. I know. I'm a teacher. I see it all the time: the recruiting vultures 'target' low GPA and even special ed kids and lie to them. It's a horrific situation and a disgrace to the US.

How about reminding people that the military is not one of the branches if the US government instead of complaining that progressives don't understand the phenomenon of militarism or its attraction in this heavily propagandized nation? Every kid in the military is not a hero and the brainwashing needs to stop. Now.

One can only hope that the US will be 'feminized' ASAP. How about spending some of that obscene amount of Iraq money here at home so our kids don't think they have to head there to get ahead in life?

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"Demasculinized"?? Militarist Mythologies
Posted by: RegK on Feb 6, 2008 6:52 AM   
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An interesting coinage; I believe the existing word for this projection is 'emasculated'--or did the author not want to use that word because of its misogynist history and overtones? So, is masculinity really all about violence and killing after all? Shouldn't we be teaching a new way to these disadvantaged kids who are being seduced and recruited? Poor rural and inner city kids do not, by the way, have a natural attraction to the military. Kerry may have said it the wrong way, but he was right: low-performing students opt for the military because their other choices are limited. I know. I'm a teacher. I see it all the time: the recruiting vultures 'target' low GPA and even special ed kids and lie to them. It's a horrific situation and a disgrace to the US.

How about reminding people that the military is not one of the branches if the US government instead of complaining that progressives don't understand the phenomenon of militarism or its attraction in this heavily propagandized nation? Every kid in the military is not a hero and the brainwashing needs to stop. Now.

One can only hope that the US will be 'feminized' ASAP. How about spending some of that obscene amount of Iraq money here at home so our kids don't think they have to head there to get ahead in life?

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What its gotten to be
Posted by: GPFrank on Feb 6, 2008 7:07 AM   
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The more drinks an addict in a barroom has, the
more great ideas he or she has for changing the world.

But when some politician, pundit or professor expels the phrase, "national interest" also out comes some military solution. In that respect the reflex is like someone reaching for a drink whenever called upon to think.

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an interesting take on the history and psych of warfare
Posted by: chalquist on Feb 6, 2008 7:07 AM   
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It is the 60/70 somethings
Posted by: steven w on Feb 6, 2008 7:25 AM   
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who are feer-driven and still fanticises over John Wayne and the glorious WWII when we were REALLY suppose to be fighting. I'm 52 and I wish these kids in their 30's will step up and grab the reigns of leadership- if they can concentrate on anything longer than a puppy dog.

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Questions for the Candidates
Posted by: Southern Gal on Feb 6, 2008 7:46 AM   
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Do either of our Democratic candidates Clinton or Obama have the balls to confront or attempt to control the Pentagon? Do any of our Congressional leaders have the balls for confrontation and control? How challenging would it be to confront the Pentagon and the military industrial complex to redirect our pre-emptive war policies? I think that all of our leaders are scared.

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CIVILIANS GAVE OUR MILITARY A BAD NAME
Posted by: VZEQICVA on Feb 6, 2008 8:01 AM   
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Viet Nam and Iraq were both acts of aggression against countries that were no threat to us. Both tarnished the American image. Prior to that we were the ones who would save the planet. Europe is still grateful to the U.S. Now we are led by some loser who thinks he owns a football team. It should not have been allowed to happen. Americans still sleep better and feel safer because we have our military. That has to change. Thanks, ANNA

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Nice Bootlicking
Posted by: Iconoclast421 on Feb 6, 2008 8:02 AM   
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The military is in disastrous shape. Bases in just about every country. Trillions of dollars wasted. Hotbed of socialism. No bid contracts, no competition, extremely high prices. It's a cancer on the face of america. And its growing faster than we can even support it. Do you know how many illegals are in the military? Go find out.

It's great to sound patriotic and to be politically correct. But this cannot continue. We cant afford to drop trillions into this machine as if we were dropping quarters in a car wash. Nor can we afford to be continually propagandized and dumbed down by the media wings of this military industrial complex. Dont you understand that its going to rip this country to shreds? And all the people in the military are going to have NOTHING once it rips itself apart. Why couldnt people LISTEN to Eisenhower?

"we must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the military-industrial complex..."

"...Only an alert and knowledgeable citizenry..."

We are neither alert nor knowledgeable, thanks in no small part to the media and propaganda arms of the military-industrial complex. God damn... they actually did it. They took over this country and brainwashed everyone. Witness the result.

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» RE: Nice Bootlicking Posted by: grn1
A liberal AND a military guy
Posted by: praedor on Feb 6, 2008 8:48 AM   
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I am a liberal and I am military. They are not (necessarily) mutually opposed or exclusive. One can be in favor of actually fighting (legitimately) to uphold and protect the Constitution and valid national security or humanitarian ends. That said, there is a very good benefit to come to people, all people, who serve: military training and discipline. The discipline transposes to virtually any other area of life. The training and discipline are also specifically useful for fighting, if necessary, against one's government should it become oppressive or divert away from the Constitution and proper representation of the People. There is a reason that Jefferson stated that it is the inherent right of people to rise up and overthrow their government should it ever fail to represent them under the Constitution...and simply voting isn't ALWAYS the best or even slightly functional way to do it.

You are better served to be trained in the ways of the military if/when that military is turned against you than to be a mere lay-down-and-expose-one's-belly pacifist to the boot coming down on you. To borrow a 100% legitimate quote from "V for Vendetta": People should not be afraid of their government. Government should be afraid of its people.

THAT is what ultimately protects liberty and true representative governance.

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» Not to mention Posted by: meetmeineleusis
» RE: A liberal AND a military guy Posted by: Jeff Hoffman
HOYA!
Posted by: PJAW on Feb 6, 2008 9:52 AM   
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Hold Onto Your Ass! Things don't look like they're getting any better any time soon.

One of the myths perpetuated in this article is the "all volunteer army". When you're coerced, lied to, bribed and bamboozled, you ain't no "volunteer". You're a victim, a fool, a mercernary or a chump.

Having said that, I firmly believe that there is nothing more noble that one can do than to stand in harm's way in the protection of one's family, home and country. But, when men and women give themselves to such service, it is incumbent upon those who are charged with leadership, to use and deploy them in a way that is consistent with the honor and integrity with which they serve. Historically, the military of the United States has seldom been used in that way, and the current deployment in Iraq may be the most egregious abuse of them in our nation's history. Well, maybe it's a tie, with the Indian Wars, the Spanish American War, The War With Mexico..., and several others.

I agree with the author that there need to be alternatives to military service for affirming your masculinity, shaping your personality or participating in some grand life adventure while contributing to the public good. Unfortunately, the elected officials we have in place for making such policy decisions remain infatuated with military force. Perhaps that will change somewhat with a new administration, but I suspect it will take a long time the national psyche to evolve out of this present destructive behavior.

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If we are serious
Posted by: vand on Feb 6, 2008 11:13 AM   
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about waging peace, we MUST address the psychobiological nature of human aggression, prevent "testosterone poisoning" and transform the corporate-military-good-old-boys-complex into an ecological- social healing movement. And what on earth are we going to do with all the weapons and spy satellites???

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America is a religion and every belief system will attract its priests
Posted by: Suzon on Feb 6, 2008 11:44 AM   
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I was surprized that the author failed to point out the part that fathers play in young men being attracted to the military.

If Dad was a soldier, his son may want to emulate him and validate his father's experience.

If Dad was brutal, his son may be looking for a way to channel his own aggression or legitimize it.

If Dad was missing, his son may be looking for the male bonding he missed out on.

If Dad was an occasional presence due to his finding a new wife, his son may want to please him to in order to feel like he matters.

There is also evidence that the teenage brain doesn't recognize danger.

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» Fathers Posted by: openhouse
Some Buddhism for the warriors
Posted by: Ardie on Feb 6, 2008 11:45 AM   
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"When a professional warrior exerts himself in battle, if others then slay him, after death he will be reborn in the company of gods slain in battle." Buddha tried three times to discourage this question, but Yodhajiva persisted. At last Buddha said, "Apparently, Yodhajiva, I haven't been able to get past you by saying, 'Enough, don't ask me that.' So I will simply answer you. When a professional warrior exerts himself in battle, his mind is already debased and misdirected by the thought: 'May these men be slaughtered, annihilated, destroyed.' If others slay him while he is exerting himself in battle, after death, he will be reborn in the hell called the realm of those slain in battle. But if he holds the view you mentioned, that is his wrong view. Now, there are two destinations for a person with wrong view. Either hell or the animal womb." Hearing Buddha's answer, Yodhajiva wept because he had been deceived by that ancient creed” (Samyutta Nikaya XLII, 3).

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Question
Posted by: applepie on Feb 6, 2008 12:04 PM   
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Why is the military telling me what I 'have' to do and how I 'have' to think?

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The Beetle Bailey Outfit
Posted by: JayHaden on Feb 6, 2008 12:43 PM   
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Beetle Bailey was the image of the military when I was of draft age. Sheer boredom and ignominious potato peeling. No masculine glamour there, except for Killer who was named for his Valentino looks, not the number of enemy he dispatched. Small wonder that my crowd opted for graduate school, which our country honored with a deferment during the Vietnam war.

At one point I marvelled at our system of co-opting the two ornery ends of the bell curve: the high end was welcomed into the university environment, dissuaded from revolutionary thought by government funded research contracts handed out like candy (no Latin American student revolts here); the low end was kept from total economic and social despair by "joining up" (no peasant revolt here).

As with everything else in our society, success graduates to excess. Neither institution, military or academic, is supported any more by a national policy that pays attention to where or society is headed. Both are simply tools for special interests.

One thing I've learned, however, is that any marketing whiz can change what we collectively believe to be prized character traits. If cleaning up slums and storm debris were given sexually attractive images, our young men would be volunteering for Americorps and the Peace Corps instead of the military.

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» RE: The Beetle Bailey Outfit Posted by: sofla100
Militarism = USA
Posted by: Quannah on Feb 6, 2008 1:42 PM   
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Before WWI, Woodrow Wilson and some European counterparts believed there would never be war again! We (human beings) had evolved past that! We were able to use diplomacy and intelligence and reason to avoid war.

He believed that until Germany marched in and took over Belgium.

Oops! Oh well, it sounded good!

But WWI was advertised as the "War to end all War." Come to think of it, so was WWII sold that way.

War will end when people stop fighting wars.
Period.

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» RE: Militarism = profits Posted by: Sushi
The Military IS AMERICA'S SOCIAL WELFARE PROGRAM
Posted by: sofla100 on Feb 6, 2008 2:28 PM   
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The US military in the USA serves as a make works program for young people and as a source of benefits to pay for future education. It is acceptable to be in the military for employment, since America no longer believes in, nor sponsors, the programs of the past, such as the Peace Corps, Vista, and the like. Those programs, after Republican dominance of the USA, are seen as akin to welfare programs and that is why they have been largely dismantled. At any rate, the primary belief now in America is that to be poor is a matter of choice or moral failure. Therefore, to join the military is considered at least to be engaging in successful employment. Beyond that, many young people have no choice. It's either Wal-Mart's, a fast food gas station store, or the military. Also, many young people do not have money for college nor do their parents. And again, since America no longer believes in financial aid for education, or it is so severely limited as to be unavailable to millions, the military is seen as the only option. Finally, the military is the only option really open to millions of young people nowadays in America. We need to see this for what it is, and strip the thin veneer of so-called patriotism and valor. If a young person must join, the best they can do is to at least avoid getting killed and get out fast with some money and benefits.

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War; the Real Issue
Posted by: herbal on Feb 6, 2008 2:30 PM   
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Paul Krugman and most of the mainline press & media are trying to portray health insurance as the only difference between the corporatist Hillary and over conciliatory Obma. Obama accepted the ´pece branch´from Hillary fter the failue of Bill in his negative confrontations. Obama despertely needs to get agressive about his differences in war voting and distinguish himself from warmonger Hillary and her voting record. How dare her attack Obama´s anti war intent!

We internet hacks are only preaching to the choir at this point.

We need to mount a general strike at Hillary by writing to the editors of small and large newspapers in the states with upcoming primaries.

Write today, esp. with those who are in those states. Get them out today to avert a disaster of the Clinton alliance with Geo Bush Sr, Rupert Murdoch, CITI Bank, etc. etc.

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» especially since... Posted by: undrgrndgirl
Is a strong military force necessary
Posted by: willymack on Feb 6, 2008 2:49 PM   
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Or even desirable?. If we recalled all our military personnel from abroad and disbanded them, would some other country feel free to invade us with the aim of pillage and plunder? I don't think that many people have given these questions any serious thoughts. Albert Einstein wrote some beautiful theses on this subject. He'd have made a good Friend (Quaker) if he weren't a Jew. I joined the Navy for personal reasons, namely to escape poverty, help my parents by relieving them of a mouth to feed, and all those stories about cheap booze and easy women. (They're true, by the way). I stayed in eighteen years past my first enlistment because I LOVED it with all my heart and soul. That being said, our military is being misused by some of the worst scoundrels ever to disgrace and dishonor their offices, and all for their own selfish gains. If we ever regain our sanity, I think a much smaller, less expensive military establishment should be maintained HERE and ONLY HERE, ready in case somenoe is stupid enough to attack us. The rest of the world can tend to its own business or appeal to the UN for help.

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The republic has a different military than the empire does.
Posted by: thoughtcriminal on Feb 6, 2008 3:40 PM   
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The military-industrial-Congressional complex is something different - that's pork barrel politics inside the beltway - a world where defense contractors, Senators, and senior generals all enjoy very chummy and close relationships - key Senators make money available to the Pentagon generals, who steer the money to the favored defense contractors, who donate heavily to the Senators and who also provide corporate berths for the retired generals - and then the Senators get home state jobs from the defense contractors, who bill the U.S. taxpayer for everything. That's been going on ever since WWII, and before, and it's why the U.S. is by far the #1 global arms manufacturer.

As far as using patriotism to sell the military to kids, the military that's advertised to kids is the military of a free, democratic republic - but the military that exists is that of an overbearing imperial power that favors force over diplomacy as a means of resolving disputes.

There's a good article on Patriotism that discusses how it is used to motivate people: THOMAS DE ZENGOTITA - Thoughts About Patriotism on the Fourth of July"

"The result is that the natural and noble sentiments that arise from the real experience of direct community become so terribly susceptible to being hijacked by Leaders of Big Entities with agendas of their own."

On one hand, military service is a form of community service - the National Guard helps (or is supposed to help) communities in times of disaster. If you believe what the military ads tell you, that's the mission of the military - traveling the world and handing out candy and bottled water to impoverished kids - and getting money for college and learning technical skills along the way.

This is why people say they sympathize with military personnel, but not with the people who started the war - they know most people join the military with good intentions, and most don't really know what they're getting into.

Just think: how many volunteers would the military get if the kids knew they'd be shipped halfway around the world to guard some oil pipeline from the local insurgents, who hate you for invading and bombing their country?

Unfortunately, the reality is that the U.S. military has become the tool of those with imperial agendas, and who are more interested in securing control of petroleum supplies via the use of military force, whatever it takes.

This is why the U.S. military stayed in Iraq after the "primary mission", the capture of Saddam Hussein and his non-existent WMD arsenal, was completed. In the aftermath of the invasion, we had U.S. soldiers acting as traffic police - something they were never trained for. They were converted to an imperial occupation force, something quite different from, say, a defensive military force. Instead of fighting a war, they were used to try to beat the domestic Iraqi population into submission to the will of Exxon, Chevron, Halliburton, KBR, Bechtel, and so on.

What's really needed is a world in which military action is not viewed as a normal part of foreign policy, but rather as a worst case scenario - a disaster that should always be avoided if at all possible. In such a world, well-trained and educated soldiers would be more important than Congressional pork barrel disbursements to weapons manufactureres, and most existing foreign U.S. military bases would be closed.

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what do you expect...
Posted by: undrgrndgirl on Feb 6, 2008 4:59 PM   
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from a society based on one of the most militaristic/imperialistic (and in my opinion barbaric) societies ever in the world...ROME! a heritage that then ran through the british empire (and spain) and 'transferred' to the united states by way of rudyard kipling's "white man's burden". the "glory" of conquest/military success is so pervasive that it undergirds much of our collective conscious without being recognized or acknowledged (much like an alcoholic in denial)...history is largely taught from a militaristic perspective; wwii is remembered with reverence and nostalgia and its various participants are invoked for all sorts of rhetorical uses; video games are permeated with us v. them shoot 'em ups; heck we even have a military channel!
what we need is a paradigm shift...we need to learn how to sell peace

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is our military really "all-voluntary"?
Posted by: mr.E on Feb 6, 2008 5:35 PM   
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if it was, would it have to offer promises of college tuition, health benefits, etc?

i find it hard to believe that someone who was under financial hardship would volunteer to go serve a grueling, monotonous deployment in Iraq or Afghanistan just because it made them feel more like a man.

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Take that Indian giver
Posted by: samurai on Feb 6, 2008 5:49 PM   
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What do you expect. We're a nation founded on the back of the cowboy cavalry express. We've stolen a whole continent through genocide yet we snicker when someone says "Indian Giver". Some poor Mexicans wants to do the jobs that no one else does for peanuts on the dollar, and we call them indian givers. What are you doing here, Mexican? Didn't we you kick your grandpa out of this land. You're an ungrateful little indian giver, aintcha.

We git them Bibles clutched to our ever expanding chest. Won't be long before our hand gets called. And that's what's been happening throughout this disastrous administration. Either the Saudis or Chinese could make our currency plummet with the click of their fingers.

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Militarist Mythology and brainwash.
Posted by: pakebeer2u on Feb 6, 2008 6:32 PM   
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As European who lost a grandfather (age 24) in WWI and his own father (age 22) in WWII I have never understood the glorification of warfare by, and the bellicose attitude of the average US male. Now that I have lived in the US since 1999 I realize that this is all the
result of the successful conditioning of the adolescent brain by a bunch of pathological powerhungry moguls in White Houses and fancy corporate Castles flying in fact any flag but the "Stars and Stripes".
America, I feel sorry for your kids and I feel sorry for your future.
Paolo Beretta
Carbondale Il

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America The Aberration
Posted by: bcgirl125 on Feb 6, 2008 7:07 PM   
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The author of this article gives psychological reasons for the appeal of the military, citing its appeal to young men who feel their lifestyle is not “masculine” and violent enough. He then goes on to ask that progressives learn to understand and empathize with this mindset.

What rubbish. Canadians and Europeans do not have the same cultlike regard for the military as Americans do. Even in third-world countries, I don’t know of any nation where the military is as adored as it is here.

Currently, America has more than 700 army bases in over 130 nations. 55% of the ENTIRE WORLD’S military expenditure is made by America. About half of federal tax revenue is spent on the maintenance of this behemoth, the American military industrial complex:
http://www.warresisters.org/piechart.htm

There are no deep-seated, universal human drives creating this cultural distortion. It is a pathology specific to American culture, maintained through constant brainwashing by the MSM. Treat it as what it is: America’s problem, and since America is exporting it, now the whole world’s, too.

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the US military
Posted by: ShoShenQ on Feb 6, 2008 7:19 PM   
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I may have a lot of bad things to say on the US, but imo their military are most honorable and the cream of the world armies, no wonder the american people trust so much.

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That's all sweet and stuff
Posted by: praedor on Feb 6, 2008 7:40 PM   
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And while I have a soft spot for Buddhists and Buddhism, it holds no more truck with me than any other religious mythology be it Mithraism, Christianity, Islam, Wicca, Voodoo, or a Cargo Cult.

There is a valid purpose and reason for the military. ALL nations have military forces for these reasons. Many European nations obtain a better balance between the military and society compared to the US but they have military forces nonetheless. It is quite possible to serve in a military and NOT be a blank roboton killer sans compassion or thought.

And as for the idea of coming back in the womb of an animal...humans are animals too but be that as it may, I LOVE animals. I don't look down on ANY form of life as qualitatively inferior (or morally inferior). We are ALL animals. Nothing more, nothing less.

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Title?
Posted by: Sp5 on Feb 6, 2008 8:12 PM   
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Some of my favorite memories were from time I spent in the Army in Germany as an 18,19 and 20 year old. This time was formative to me in lots of ways. But when I discuss it with my sons I tend to downplay my experiences. I want them to go to college and not heed the call. The last thing I'd ever want is for one of them to come home in a box. But,as your article reminds me, they would take that chance because the possibility for adventure is a magnet. I wish I could do it again. Thank you.

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When Jefferson was talking about Govt being like "fire"
Posted by: chief of okeefe on Feb 6, 2008 8:49 PM   
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He had to be thinking of the military.

Like fire, a wonderfully useful tool when needed. Like fire, a terrifyingly destructive force.

The problem is the frivolous use of the military to grab foreign resources for well-connected corporations, settle personal grudges, or become a proxy for a foreign entity with undue influence...

That said, I would cut back military spending 90% if I could. This would only reduce it's lethality by about 30% because of the law of diminishing returns. With two big oceans and weak neighbors, we never needed this big military for our own defense. Give up the planetary empire, and, like a junkie finally giving up the "smack", we can return to living like a normal country again.

In another generation, "terrorists" would no more think to attack us than they think now of attacking Switzerland or Slovakia.

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We have a AWOL "Commander in Thief or Chief",
Posted by: drfun on Feb 6, 2008 8:52 PM   
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who likes to "think" he is a "War President".

Ask the soldiers in the National Guard, if their indented purpose was to occupy a foreign land, based off of lies, or defend the borders of the U.S., and enjoy the benefits they receive? And my guess is the latter option is chosen.

I often think to those that say "Freedom isn't free", miss the point. Many of the conflicts the U.S. has involved itself with, were for ulterior motives of an agenda, contrary to the purpose of installing/ supporting democracies around the world.

How can some claim to be "Christian" and pro-life, in the next sentence declare what the U.S. has done around the world with its military for the sake of "Democracy and Capitalism", is just?

The average soldier is just a pawn in games of violent intimidation and repression of the "Enemy" who have been at times former comrade "Freedom Fighters", like Osama Bin Laden and Saddam Hussien .

Many sign on for all the promises made by the recruiter, with the "educational $'s, and medical benefits" will not be kept by the anxious military.

Those that feel a "patriotic" duty, could utilize their talents in a non-violent way, but peer pressure and sense of family "tradition" cloud their decisions.

If the U.S. wants to stop "Terrorists", and "Terrorism", it must stop "Terrorizing" the world first!

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Is there a psychiatric pathology
Posted by: fg on Feb 6, 2008 11:08 PM   
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in which pleasure is derived from blood, guts and gore? I've sensed such a mentality in some people I've known.

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Same old story - new twist?
Posted by: leland61 on Feb 7, 2008 4:47 AM   
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The story of militarism is as old as recorded history.

It is tied directly to the fundamentally predatory nature of human beings and most especially those of the male gender. The military is nothing more or less than the organized and hierarchially structured hunting party out to expand the territory of the beast - the beast being man.

Grow up. Unless and until there is some magic change in the nature of humankind, war, mayhem, murder, massacre, torture and all the rest of it will continue. There is not one single sign of change so far. None! NADA!

The imperialism of America has beein going on from its foundation by the elites who began the country and conned the farmers, and New World peasantry into spilling their blood for the glory of a nation dedicated to the advancement of a small elite class of people - the founding fathers to start with.

War has always been a rich man's game played with the blood and bodies of the poor, easily manipulated and deliberatly mis-informed. It is today just as it was in the time of Julius Caesar and Augustus his "son". And one can keep going back. For westerners the Bible is a record of a deity who demanded genocide, was a land thief, and just plain nasty and ugly. But this is an excuse not a cause of war. The gods are invoked by the leaders to attempt to cover their nefarious and perverse acts with the cloak of respectibility.

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Mister
Posted by: Spock on Feb 7, 2008 6:58 AM   
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"War is a racket," probably the most profitable of them all by many times. This is a hyper-capitalist society. What would you expect?

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Aikido
Posted by: DaBear on Feb 7, 2008 11:23 AM   
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When Morihei Ueshiba developed Aikido a large motivation for him in doing so was that the American use of the atomic bomb. He realized that there are far too many of us, that we are all far too interconnected to continue to use warfare as an answer to our problems.

I'm glad the author wrote this article and that Alternet dared to put it out there. But it's just a starting point. I wish that more Americans practiced Aikido and Iaido instead of store-front tae kwan do and other "comptetitive" martial arts. One can get discipline, training, physicality and close calls with death in a healthy dojo environment, no soldierin' necessary.

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ONE BAD APPLE, THE CinC, BUSH
Posted by: outrider on Feb 7, 2008 4:08 PM   
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I served first as an enlisted man than as an officer throughout WW2. After the war I was transferred to inactive duty, some of my buddies elected to stay in the service. For a while we communicated. They were aghast at what they saw happening to the military forces. Most of them left the service within a year or two. I was shocked and dismayed when I learned how the troops were being used in South and Central America. They were nothing more or less than hit men for the mega corporations and their "elite" CEO's. The rank and file could be described as little more than butchers but they were doing what they took an oath they would do - obeying the commands of superior officers. Their officers had no such excuse. Their oath was to preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution, not to commit war crimes nor order their troops to do so. They failed miserably. And there was evangelicalism promoted by the Air Force Academy and probably throughout the services. But worst of all the highest ranking officers have attempted to mislead the public by lies, cover-ups, and distortions of the truth.

I do not trust the officers who are in command at the tactical level. They have willing and intentionally in some cases ordered the commission of war crimes. I fear that they would execute a coup if Bush or his ilk ordered it.

I do not trust CEOs, the Pentagon, nor the officers from Colonel on up. All have ignored the oaths they took when they were elected, appointed, or commissioned - their promise to preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution against all enemies, foreign and domestic. Our national armed forces have been privatized. They belong to the industrial/military complex. Ike was right.

No one in their right mind trusts the CinC, Bush, but all of the armed forces, enlisted and officers alike have taken an oath to obey him. The also take an oath to preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution. They can and ought to refuse to obey an order that violates or threatens the Constitution and the international law and treaties that are a part thereof. They have not so except for a few truly patriotic officers who took their oaths seriously.

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Lewis
Posted by: MiddleOfTheRoad on Feb 7, 2008 4:19 PM   
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TOMMY
Rudyard Kipling

...
For it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "Chuck him out, the brute!"
But it's "Saviour of 'is country," when the guns begin to shoot;
An' it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' anything you please;
But Tommy ain't a bloomin' fool - you bet that Tommy sees!

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Rights of Passage
Posted by: gonzoskismet on Feb 7, 2008 4:40 PM   
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In many ancient cultures on this planet, there were always rituals known as 'rites of passage' where the adults introduced the young men
and women to the phase of life know as adulthood.
There has never been any such ritual in America that I can think of except the military. This is a sad and negligent manner to introduce the young of a nation to adulthood. Often brutal and forever life altering, it is more a destruction of the budding young personality than an affirmation of life as an adult.
Most of the people I ever knew that joined the military didn't do it from any great sense of patriotism. They did it because there were too many mouths to feed in the family or because there were no jobs to be had at the time or, and this is the simplest and saddest shame in America, because they were hungry. The fact that they wound up in the meat grinder of war was secondary to the reason they enlisted.
The culture of the nation was built on quicksand and it remains on quicksand. Always shifting, seeking merely to survive, the youth of America never have a sense of the 'rite of passage' from child to adult. The only lesson they learn quickly is that you've got to keep on moving to survive. If you can't find work, join the military. If your father and mother can't feed you, join the military. If you can't afford college, join the military. This is the heritage we support when we 'support the troops.'
Think about it, America. This years Pentagon budget is projected to be 3/4's of a TRILLION dollars. And, because of our militaristic mind set, we never even question this vast expenditure of our national wealth.
The deeper issue is this. Will we ever develop a culture that can raise our young as anything but 'cannon fodder?' Will we ever develop a 'rite of passage' in America that does not require sacrificing our young just to make them 'patriotic adults?'

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If Americans knew real history and weren't programmed
Posted by: Burtonger on Feb 7, 2008 6:14 PM   
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IF Americans knew of the true history and were not so programmed they would be ashamed of their country and would not be so "patriotic" about the greed and genocide that is America's true karma.
Denial is part of the human psych.

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so many comments about militarism
Posted by: blitzmesser on Feb 9, 2008 12:37 AM   
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Why?
Belonging to the military means belonging to a killing machine. Why are so many people defending the idea of ingrained militarism ?
And why are they pretending that militarism is necessary for some 'higher' purpose ...of defending the country? Nobody has been attacking the country, yet these warmongers claim to need a military whose budget is increasing as we speak or write.
More money is spent on the military and its killing potentials than for education or anything else that makes life worth while living.
No wonder nothing ever changes. The level of education remains at level one. (The lowest possible, not the highest as you may have hoped.)
With articles like these, that seem to take for granted that people need to have extensive training to change...and talk about the psychology of being addicted to the military... no wonder that we have what we have.
Most Psychological theories are nothing but bull sh*t, but people assume that they are based on science.

Why not treat militarism as a disease to be cured through electric shock treatments
and taking their guns away?

Is the myth of "ingrained militarism" controlled by the weapons manufacturers and their "staff psychologists" who are protecting the few "goods" still manufactured in the good old USA and exported to all parts of the world ?
What do you think?

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Rebecca
Posted by: Bec59 on Feb 10, 2008 9:51 AM   
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I am so impressed with the depth of knowledge and thinking that most of these posts have displayed. I think that eventually peace will come when our human population is much smaller and only in small enclaves where the members have decided that peace is the way they want to live. Such as in small agragarian communites who choose peace. They will still have to guard their found peace against those who would fight them.
Too bad we haven't evolved to the point where peace is in our DNA. To me, chances are slim that this will ever happen--in the meantime, I'm glad there is some protection from those who would destroy those of us who can understand that we'd all feel greater about life if we all had what we needed; enough food, shelter, prosperity, health and love for each other and all living things. Wish this weren't a pipe dream made of smoke. A fantasy that may never happen. Laugh as much as you want. That is the world only the meek will inherit.

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