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Meet the Next Generation of GOP Hypocrites at the College Republican Convention

By Max Blumenthal, Huffington Post. Posted July 20, 2007.


From Iraq to homosexuality and abortion, a visit with the next crop of Republican leaders reveals the utter hypocrisy and delusional thinking that sustains GOP politics.
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On July 13, 2007, I visited Section 60 of Arlington National Cemetery, where the bodies of American soldiers killed in Iraq were freshly interred. Afterwards, I headed across the street to the Sheraton National Hotel, owned by right-wing Korean cult leader Sun Myung-Moon, to meet some of the war's most fervent supporters at the College Republican National Convention.

In conversations with at least twenty College Republicans about the war in Iraq, I listened as they lip-synched discredited cant about "fighting them over there so we don't have to fight them over here." Many of the young GOP cadres I met described the so-called "war on terror" as nothing less than the cause of their time.

Yet when I asked these College Republicans why they were not participating in this historic cause, they immediately went into contortions. Asthma. Bad knees from playing catcher in high school. "Medical reasons." "It's not for me." These were some of the excuses College Republicans offered for why they could not fight them "over there."

Like the current Republican leaders who skipped out on Vietnam, the GOP's next generation would rather cheerlead from the sidelines for the war in Iraq while other, less privileged young men and women fight and die.

Along with videographer Thomas Shomaker, I captured a vivid portrait of the hypocritical mentality of the next generation of Republican leaders. See for yourself.

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Another generation of chickenhawks...
Posted by: Thundergod on Jul 20, 2007 1:22 AM   
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Spoon feed rich kids that think they are better then everyone else and a disgrace to any way of thinking that means anything... Just because their parents have programmed them this way doesn't make them any holier than anyone else! When life delivers them real problems about their beliefs then they will change their thoughts and life's fast!

They can't avoid life's lesson anymore then anyone else! The leaders leading this program are the ones that will be dealt with by the real gods of the universe...

Tom Delay the taker of bribes and the one that lead this country down is not someone that should be preaching his terminator mind on our young and future possible leaders!

Tom Delay the uneducated bug terminator leader and disgraced former house leader is nothing but a uneducated bug terminator that has no thoughts about anything but terminating something he doesn't like...

He means nothing in any spiritual sense except how vain someone can get and not know anything about how the universe is run and be in tune to what is right...

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» The Nazi's Were The First Generation Posted by: malcolmartin
» No,they just change the rules... Posted by: LeaderofMen
Yucchh. America lifts a rock, and there they are.
Posted by: LMNOP on Jul 20, 2007 3:02 AM   
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That certainly was nauseating, but not surprising. But what else could you expect given their role models, like George "AWOL" Bush and Dick "other priorities" Cheney?

What was remarkable about the Hitler youth there is how witless they all were. They were totally unprepared for the question about military service and fumbled for poorly deliverd and insincere excuses. Nobody in their world - not their parents, not their older siblings, not their church, not their teachers - ever asked them why they weren't enlisting. It's assumed, like the whole rest of the elitist fast-track: college, an MBA, a leveraged buy-out or hostile takeover of a formerly productive business sold for parts, a few inside trades, export a few thousand jobs, some crony contracts defrauding the US. taxpayer, tax evasion and finally, an ambassadorship and a pardon.

These next few years should prove very interesting as this generation of conservative larvae, certainly more antisocial and less talented than the last, mature into adult vermin and take their places under the rocks of the American soil.

America's ruling class is an utter moral vaccuum, from George and Dick to Paris and the Don. It should be interesting to see where they take America. What does everyonr think? Are we ready to go where these people take us?

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Hitler Youth
Posted by: CSDS4949 on Jul 20, 2007 3:19 AM   
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Back in the late 1980s, they used to be called 'Young Republicans'. I don't know why they relabeled themselves 'College Republicans'. But at Florida State at that time, we always used to call them Hitler Youth. I have always found that label to be the most appropriate.

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» RE: Hitler Youth Posted by: Tom Degan
» Hitler Youth, Brown Shirts & liberals! Posted by: Conservasaurus
» Columbia Posted by: Joshua Holland
» RE: The KKK was mostly Democrats Posted by: mercianomad
» Um.... Posted by: Suz
» RE: Um.... Posted by: Conservasaurus
» The Nazi Label Is Seriously Flawed Posted by: apophenia_monkey
» RE: Then Maybe It's A Posted by: apophenia_monkey
» Careful now Posted by: slydad
» Get real! Posted by: slydad
» RE: Get real! Posted by: wushih
» Less rhetoric please. Posted by: slydad
» It's a good thing... Posted by: mizipi
» Is the end near? Posted by: Conservasaurus
Ya Gotta Love It!
Posted by: Tom Degan on Jul 20, 2007 3:25 AM   
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Let the word go forth from this time and place - to friend and foe alike - that the torch has been passed to a new generation of right-wingers: born in this century; indifferent to war; diciplined by profit; ambivilent toward our ancient heritage - and unwilling to witness our permit the full excersise of those human rights - to which this nation used to be committed and to which we are ignoring today - at home and around the globe....

That faint rumbling you hear in the distance is the sound of John F. Kennedy doing sommersaults in his grave.

Cheers!

Tom Degan
Goshen, NY
"The Rant" by Tom Degan

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» RE: Ya Gotta Love It! Posted by: marxalot
» RE: Ya Gotta Love It! Posted by: Dinab
The new centurions
Posted by: bulbman on Jul 20, 2007 3:49 AM   
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Just another symptom of the end of empire. The sad thing is how much of the world will be applauding as we slowly sink below the surface of own bloated delusions of superiority.

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» RE: The new centurions Posted by: fred_53_99
Up out of the grave...
Posted by: mandiwrite on Jul 20, 2007 4:25 AM   
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We've seen these bloodsuckers before, the vampires of history, the evil we fight over and over and over again:
You masters of war
You that build all the guns
You that build the death planes
You that build the big bombs...
Well I hope that you die
And your death comes soon
And I'll follow your coffin
In the pale afternoon
And I'll watch while you're lowered
Into your deathbed
And I'll stand by your grave till I'm sure that you're dead

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I was raised republican
Posted by: mombot on Jul 20, 2007 4:28 AM   
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My dear parents are republicans, more moderate than far right, thankfully. They did teach me to question things and think for myself. I managed once I left home for good, to experience more of life. I realized that in spite of some good from the conservative side of the fence, they lied more often than not. I am a proud liberal, been so for all of my adult life. For those that join the "young repub's", they can't think for themselves! They just take what they're told and never question anything. I saw that year's ago and unfortunately, more young people join the rightly labeled hitler youth. How do we draw them away from the cult???

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» RE: I was raised republican Posted by: Tom Degan
» Wisdom with age! Posted by: Conservasaurus
Look at the "HATE SPEECH" as a result of this article
Posted by: ryno on Jul 20, 2007 4:46 AM   
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What an amazing discovery. There is more hate speech here than at any GOP convention, even one for college Republicans.

Where are the hypocrites? Looks like they are posting right here.

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» When you call a Repblican a 'Nazi' Posted by: BenCaxton12
» Yeah, I'll admit it... Posted by: Suz
Frightening
Posted by: Cruella on Jul 20, 2007 4:50 AM   
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Just the stickers: "Evolution is Science Fiction", "Save the Male" and "Fight Crime - Shoot Back". That's so offensive.

The evolution battle is still being fought in the UK. We even have creationist museums and schools teaching that crap now!

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» RE: Frightening Posted by: moflard
Well, Well . . .
Posted by: TheGypsy on Jul 20, 2007 4:50 AM   
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No shortage of dickheads, here.

Love the closet-case.

Swear to god, I think these peoples' birth certificates were apology letters from the condom company.

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» RE: Well, Well . . . Posted by: Boomerang
» RE: Well, Well . . . Posted by: kelly.nickell
Too scary to be funny
Posted by: Perko on Jul 20, 2007 4:59 AM   
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These sad, deluded folks are the future. They are the next generation in power. How pathetic to watch them barely able to articulate the party line. They are thier own worst enemy. Rehashed, warmed-over hypocrites. Do they make these morons in a factory somewhere? Can people really be that dumb? Makes me want to stay at home. We're doomed.

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» RE: Too scary to be funny Posted by: cwilsondrum
Ah Repugwicans, the keepers of values and other NAZI characteristics
Posted by: james2021 on Jul 20, 2007 5:39 AM   
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The most important question to have asked would have been how many of these new Patriots were registered for the DRAFT. That is still the law, all males over 18 MUST register for the draft. One would guess that None of them were registered.

Standardd Repugwican stragety, start wars for the poor to fight in. Beginning to look more and more like a Monarchy. Repugwican Feudalism will cure everything.

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This is nothing that a...
Posted by: ShrubtheWarcriminal on Jul 20, 2007 5:55 AM   
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...good DRAFT would not cure!

They would do a left turn on a dime. But of course the rich ones would serve like the Shrub Chimp.

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» Please DO NOT INSULT chimps!!!!! Posted by: veggiegrrrl
Pol Pot knew what to do with young men like these
Posted by: dougii on Jul 20, 2007 6:06 AM   
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So you been to school For a year or two
And you know you've seen it all In daddy's car
Thinkin' you'll go far Back east
your type don't crawl

Pol Pot! Pol Pot!

"Holiday In Cambodia" err .. Holiday in Iraq!

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» Jello had it right. Posted by: justaguy
KNOW THE ENEMY WITHIN!
Posted by: kc10ken on Jul 20, 2007 6:42 AM   
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I was once young, stupid and republican too. Even did 13 years in the military before resigning in disgust as dumbya invaded Iraq. I can now proudly say I'm in recovery as an Independent thanks to a good dose of reality.
A word of warning though......these priveleged GOP alpha males will be running the show in 30 years IF WE DON'T TAKE THEM OUT NOW with a good dose of reality.
I have found that most "liberals" and moderates are too passive and reluctant to get right up into these motherfuckers faces and SHOUT THEM DOWN with facts and reality. You MUST STAND YOUR GROUND or these chickenhawks will walk all over you. Bill Clinton put it best in an interview back in 2004 (and this is why Kerry lost). I watched this interview as Bill Clinton was asked how the Dems should handle the slander and mud that the GOP always slings during these campaigns. Here's what President Clinton said....

"You have to hit them, and hit them hard. And while they're laying down on the ground bleeding, HIT THEM AGAIN AND AGAIN. Politics is a dirty business and you MUST take out your opponent and not let him frame the argument at hand"

I thought that was a bit rough...but then realized he was right. It's EXACTLY what the GOP did to Kerry in 2004.

TAKE THESE DEMENTED AND MISLED YOUNG COLLEGE REPUBICANS OUT NOW WHILE YOU HAVE THE CHANCE!

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"Pathetic Fallacy"
Posted by: ray burchard on Jul 20, 2007 6:44 AM   
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The contiguous placebo theme here. is the repugnant disconnect with reality demonstrated by these students representing the College Republican Convention, is indicative of only Republican students and therefore Democratic students represent a change in directional reality. This, just like believing that the Republican and Democrat positions provide a directional change, this is a "pathetic fallacy" for in fact just like the two sides of the same coin, when animated they roll in unison. Then the change in leadership only provides a dispensational change as to who benefits more in the same Corporate American pyramid scheme.

If you want real change in direction, STOP corporate America's deep pocket purchase of today's and tomorrows governance leadership, through Academia's and Congress's sale of allegiance.

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I wonder
Posted by: WhatNow? on Jul 20, 2007 6:56 AM   
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what kind of questions they had for tom delay. I would have asked him in repsonse to what he was saying about abortion and immigration, "if free market principles were allowed to prevail in reference to your comments mr. delay, wouldn't these jobs you mentioned get filled because the demand for labor is higher than the supply thus encouraging higher wages and in turn attracting more applicants? Why is it free market principles do not apply when it might be beneficial to labor instead of capital?" I bet I'd have been shown the door just like Max.

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» Logic has no presence with Mr. Delay Posted by: magiquarian1969
To College Republicans: a word about your sponsor
Posted by: fearless flower on Jul 20, 2007 7:20 AM   
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Who you College republicans accept money from speaks volumes about the phoniness you are involved in.

Sun Myung Moon has been outed many years now as a fallen religious leader who couldn't keep his pants on or his nose out of politicians agendas. He'd pay anyone who had so little self respect as to put in a good word for him in public.

I was a true believer in Rev. Moon's new age "Unification Church" and saw the movement steadily get twisted until I no longer recognized it. And the same thing has happened to the Republican Party.

Let me tell you about the day I shed my illusions about the Unification Church and Rev. Moon: I was called to a meeting of the faithful by our local leader who said he was going to set us straight about some rumors going around about our movement. We had heard these rumors for awhile but had been indoctrinated that these were lies perpetrated by our persecutors, not unlike the early Christians were accused of all kinds of strange and immoral practices. In this gathering, we were told that it was true: Rev. Moon, the "True Father", had been having sex with many women throughout his life while married to Mrs Moon and producing their 14 children. But this was all part of God's plan for us, you see, because Rev. Moon has the unique mission to absolve original sin in the world, and this is the way it is done!

In reality, the women he had done this with and had the misfortune to become pregnant, were showing up at his mansions with their children and demanding money and recognition as part of his "True Family."

The Republican movement once had very goods ideals. But the GOP has been hijacked by crooks and phonies and neocon megalomaniacs and the likes of Rev. Moon, since before the time of Reagan. WAKE UP!!! before you are completely gone to hell. You are young and can still blame your mistake on youthful ignorance. Soon you will have no excuse.

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Too Much Michael Moore, Not Enough Stephen Colbert
Posted by: madmac10 on Jul 20, 2007 7:47 AM   
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Kudos to Blumenthal for his guerilla tactics! I just love it when these idiots are given a mouthpiece and they spout off what's really in their gooey black hearts. His production team has obviously learned a lot from Michael Moore about how to expose nincompoop's hypocracy and conformist gobbledygook.

I believe, however, if they had simply kept up the charade all the way out the door, they could've milked much more comedy from these assholes. Look at how long it took them to figure out that Stephen Colbert was lampooning them--he got within spitting distance of the Chimp in Charge! I am sure that Blumenthal could've kept up a masquerade--despite how well-read the Hammer may be--long enough to get another few glimpses of their buffonery.

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Distraction or worse
Posted by: ghoster on Jul 20, 2007 7:48 AM   
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Both sides of this shouting match make me laugh, the great experiment of the US is over. Period, the designations of left and right, or repugs and liberals are just distractions. The real powers that be don't care which side you are on, it is all one side to them and that is the side of the slaves and sheep. The economic tsunami is coming and if that isn't enough wait until the climate change one way or another manifests itself. Yup. waste energy shouting at each other and pointing fingers instead of actually doing some research and finding out who is running the show. Follow the money, and guess what? It isn't either side they are just minor manifestations to be manipulated and attract attention of the easily fooled. The experiment in opposable thumbs is over, it failed, so enjoy your new lifestyle coming soon. None will be spared the reality of poverty save the few elites that truly know what is going on. Get informed before it is too late, as if it isn't already. But please quit the shouting match back and forth it is useless and it annoys the pig.

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Scary set of beliefs
Posted by: Cruella on Jul 20, 2007 8:19 AM   
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I found the video nicely done and scary as hell. The set of beliefs were reminiscent of the petty bureaucrats behind the Nazis, Stalinists and Islamic extremists. They all express hero worship, personal cowardice, admiration for strength, regurgitate pap dogma on demand, fear of homosexuals while having gay tendencies, and adhere to superstition rather than reason. If you want to read more about this, check this out.

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Chickensh_t Lazy Republicans Brats
Posted by: rbtt on Jul 20, 2007 8:22 AM   
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Man, I never really realized until watching this how afraid all these republicans actually are. Which is the Irony. They come off like a bunch of gun wielding war hungry macho freaks. But that is only if they can outsource the fighting to some less fortunate kid who had to join the army to maybe get to finish college. They are really a bunch of Shopping Mall TV watching soft ass brats who could maybe have a fist fight at the Hardy's parking lot on a Saturday night. Or kick some ass at World of Warcraft or online poker . They have no heart. Just Fear. They can be easily defeated man !!!! HOoOOOOOoooray. Viva la Intelligence ! We will make them read as a from of punishment !

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Pablov's dogs
Posted by: willymack on Jul 20, 2007 9:04 AM   
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We Americans are not known to be long range planners. The common knowlege is that we employ the "quick fix" to problems that most likely could've been prevented had future contingencies been considered and solved before action was taken. One example of this is our nuclear power industry. When nuclear power plants were first promoted by Madison Avenue, buzzwords like "power too cheap to meter", and "clean energy for now and forever", etc. were saturating the media networks. Not a peep about what to do with the spent fuel rods or the decommissioned power plants some 30 years in the future. When the subject was brought up by concerned scientists, they were breezily brushed off with nonsense like "that's 30 years from now; the technology will be there to safely dispose of the (highly radioactive) waste by then". Guess what, folks? The technology STILL ain't there, as NOT ONE MINUTE OF RESEARCH WAS DONE to develop it. Now, let's look at the neothugs. In contrast to our usual half-assed, quick profit, and the future can take care of itself mentality, a long range plan of mental and emotional conditioning was embarked upon about the time Lyndon B. Johnson signed signed the Civil Rights legislation and remarked to a reporter: "You know what I just did, don't you? I gave the South to the republicans". From that point on, the rethugs began an insidious plan to condition the minds and (especially) the emotions of our people. This was a multi-pronged attack on our Constitution, our courts, our unions, and just about everything and anybody else responsible for the rise of the middle class and egalitarian politics. The result is what you see today, with family members at odds with each other, and bufoons lile Billo, Anne Coulter, Hannity, etc. given authenticity and respectability by controlled corporate media.Any reasoned arguement aginst the neothug mentality is cut off in midsentence with derision and hackneyed homilies, straight out of the rethug book. Nobody is immune to this blather, especially thse prone to follow rather than think things out. There are sadly, far too many Americans in this catagory-a fact well known and vigorously exploited by people without a shred of decency or conscience. Pablov would be awed.

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polly want a cracker
Posted by: davb9966 on Jul 20, 2007 9:41 AM   
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What really amused me about this video was how all of these "college republicans" just parroted all the same things we've been hearing from the republicans for years now. None of them seemed to have anything new to say. Pretty sad. But also a bit encouraging, I guess. If the next generation of these toads is so uncreative and stupid, maybe there is hope.

One thing that was troublesome, though, was the guy who was talking about how the liberal/democrat students on college campuses are not very politically active. That needs to change.

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» RE: polly want a cracker Posted by: rbtt
The opinion of a former Young Republican.
Posted by: HughScott on Jul 20, 2007 10:18 AM   
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Forty years ago, while serving as an Air Force intelligence officer in Washington, D.C., I joined the capital’s Young Republican Club.

A 22-year-old bachelor at the time, politics never entered my mind; I was only interested in dating. But after attending a number of Young Republican social functions, I dropped out of the club because most of the single ladies I met were humorless upperclass snobs.

I got the same impression watching the video.

To me, the word that best describes college Republicans -- both guys and gals -- is “jerks.” Unless middleclass voters and the working poor show up at the polls next year and defeat enough GOP candidates to eliminate their influence in Congress, those same jerks will continue Republican domination in business and the military-industrial complex for decades to come.

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When the nukes are falling, remember these lost morons and never ask for a single second "Why us?"
Posted by: xbj on Jul 20, 2007 10:47 AM   
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Here's the main difference between Iraq/Iran and Viet Nam; Viet Nam was a PROXY unacknowledged war with China, one that could never be won, even then. As if one could be won against them now with Russia and the entire rest of the planet backing them up.

Iraq/Iran is NOT a PROXY war with all of Islam; 98% of Islam sees it as an OVERT DECLARED GENOCIDAL war on Islam. As indeed it is, because as each Moslem fights back to the last man, woman, and child, they are designated a terrorist and marked for annihilation. Which means genocide. The only way to win any sort of "War" "Against" "Terror."

98% of the entire rest of the world sees this for exactly what it is, naked boldfaced imperialist completely unwarranted aggression and eventual genocide if surrender never occurs on either side.

Which is why, while the entire rest of the world did not unite and wipe Nazi Amerika off the face of the map over Viet Nam, they absolutely WILL DO SO when the Iraq war expands, at Cheney's desperation, to the nuking of Iran.

And Nazi Amerika, no matter how strong, will not prevail against the entire united rest of the planet. No way. An absolutely impossibility.

And these idiots, in this video, demonstrate horrifically exactly WHY Nazi Amerika learned not a single damn thing worthwhile from the Viet Nam debacle, or at least forgot everything they did learn by the time senile Reagan rolled in playing Hindenburg to Poppy Bush & Son & Co. as Hitler and his inner circle.

Nazi America learned not a damn thing lasting from the disaster of Viet Nam; has not and is not learning a Goddamned (literally) thing from this Mideast debacle, and so our children and our grandchildren are doomed, IF THEY SHOULD SURVIVE AGAINST ALL ODDS, to repeat the endless stupid greedy grasping bloodsucking genocidal mistakes of the past, over and over again as THESE chicken hawk coward cretins send their own children and grandchildren of their poor to their needless and pathetic deaths in THEIR stupid war (if they should be so lucky that there even IS a Nazi America thirty years from now to invade another helpless country again.)

And it will happen because of lost soul assholes such as these in this video, who don't get it, never got it, and will never get it.

It being TRUTH. Because each, out of their own self-hatred and/or greed, has swallowed the lie of fascism, whole.

And that, and they, are Nazi Amerika's epitaph, for as long as they exist, there is no Amerikan future; only a black glowing cinder as a reminder to all for a century of what once was, what could have been, and what was squandered to profit from endless bloodletting born of insatiable greed.

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Reminds me of the lyrics of
Posted by: chaoslegs on Jul 20, 2007 10:53 AM   
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that draft dodger song.

Sarge, I'm only eighteen, I got a ruptured spleen
And I always carry a purse
I got eyes like a bat, and my feet are flat, and my asthma's getting worse
Yes, think of my career, my sweetheart dear, and my poor old invalid aunt
Besides, I ain't no fool, I'm a-goin' to school
And I'm working in a DEE-fense plant

I've got a dislocated disc and a wracked up back
I'm allergic to flowers and bugs
And when the bombshell hits, I get epileptic fits
And I'm addicted to a thousand drugs
I got the weakness woes, I can't touch my toes
I can hardly reach my knees
And if the enemy came close to me
I'd probably start to sneeze

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So according to you all, you can't support the war unless you join?
Posted by: jaden on Jul 20, 2007 11:27 AM   
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Interesting take on free speech. Not to all of you - not everyone can join the military. Some are too old, to slow, too fat, etc. Some have bad eyesight, injuries, etc.
Admittedly, these young Turks are nauseatingly robotic, but I digress.
I am currently way over the weight limit (i.e. too fat) to join up, due to my fast-food loving lazy-ass American lifestyle. I am currently trying to lose the weight in order to join the Navy.
I guess this makes me a chickenhawk, since I am a war supporter. No free speech rights for me - I must now call for Bush's impeachment.
Bush lied, people died!

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College Republicans are SAVING America...
Posted by: SteveB on Jul 20, 2007 11:42 AM   
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I live in a college town, and whenever I see one of these College Republican Business-majors who won't sign up, I think, "Well, there's the reason the US won't succeed in its plans for world domination." These "chickenhawks" are saving America from a possible invasion of Iran, Syria, and God knows where else.

So stop giving these guys such a hard time. The College Republican who can't join because he has "bad knees" is having exactly as much effect on stopping the military machine as the most principled conscientious objector.

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The Republican Herd...
Posted by: brotherjonah on Jul 20, 2007 12:59 PM   
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Thirty years ago I saw with my own eyes the Republican Herd, at Wichita Mountains National Wildlife Refuge near Altus AFB Oklahoma.

The largest single herd of American Bison... in all there were maybe 20,000 of them at the time, probably more now. Herd animals with 10 or 20 times as many females as males tend to reproduce fairly exponentially.

But there was a time when a Half Billion of these suckers roamed between northern Canada and Northern Mexico.

How did such a huge population die down to where the biggest surviving herd numbers only in the thousands? you might ask...

Well, I might answer, lack of empathy, AND blindly following leaders. That is the lesson to be learned from this story.

When the United States Army decided that the fastest way of exterminating Americans was to Exterminate their food supply, TRUE STORY, and also the easiest because unlike the Americans in question, the buffaloes didn't shoot back...

One neat little thing the Buffalo Killers figured out, actually an Indian told them, all the buffalo in any herd will be following one Matriarch. Not a Bull, but a Cow.
Might not be the biggest meanest cow, either. It doesn't mean very much in terms of near-bovine intellect, but it would be the Smartest cow.
Just a few hours of watching them would confirm the identity of the Smartest Matriarch in the herd. All the bison in the herd would look at her before doing ANYTHING.

So they would shoot the Lead Cow.

The other bison would then look to the next one in the Chain of Cow-mand, and she in turn would be shot. And so on through about 20 of these "leader" cows.

After that you could continue firing until you ran out of shells, and not one of them would do anything besides give the "well, I'm glad it wasn't ME" and go back to grazing.

It's a bizarre coincidence that this herd is called the Republican Herd.

But it works for my purposes.

Which topic to shoot at first? The basic immorality of killing people? That's been done for thousands of years and people still aren't listening, their leaders tell them not to listen.

The basic foolishness of trying to establish dominance over people who are Going To Fight Back when you try? That, too, has been done to "death" and beyond, again for several thousand years, and again, the Leaders tell their followers that this time it's going to work, we have a NEW way to "Shock and Awe" the Enemy into bowing before us and licking our boots...

Are you starting to see a pattern?
I would hope that anybody capable of reading Simple English has already seen the pattern...

The simple pattern is, shoot the Lead Cow, in this case, the very concept that we should even listen to people who declare themselves our "Leaders", the concept that we have some sort of Moral or Civic duty to Follow The Leaders...

Praise God Almighty, for He gave me enough intelligence to recognize that the proverb (NOT "commandment") "Honor God and Obey the King" was written either by KING David or KING Solomon, neither of whom, if you read the books of Chronicles and Kings in the Bible, Neither Of Them Actually Had An UNDISPUTED Claim to be King.

Now, neither KING David nor KING Solomon would have benefited from the people believing that God Himself had told them to Obey the KING, now would they?

Did I just line up a whole herd of Sacred Cows and shoot them down? Why, I believe I just did...

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In that case...
Posted by: jaden on Jul 20, 2007 1:21 PM   
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In the spirit of name-calling (of which Alternet commenters are indeed experts) I say are a terrorist apologist.
There. See how that goes? I know nothing about you or your situation, yet I can ascribe to you the most odious motivations imaginable.

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» thats because your a jew Posted by: psychochurch
» RE: thats because your a jew Posted by: JSquercia
In that case...
Posted by: jaden on Jul 20, 2007 1:21 PM   
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In the spirit of name-calling (of which Alternet commenters are indeed experts) I say are a terrorist apologist.
There. See how that goes? I know nothing about you or your situation, yet I can ascribe to you the most odious motivations imaginable.

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Jaden, that IS what the Republicans have been calling us..
Posted by: brotherjonah on Jul 20, 2007 1:56 PM   
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And even a group of decidedly Non-Name calling people called the Society of Friends also known as the
Quakers

Which Gunny Bob, an aspiring Rush Limbaugh (happy? I spelled his name the way he likes it) referred to as a "Terrorist Cult".

Not just apparently, but blatantly done with the backing of the entire Republican Network.

Now is not the time to cry about being called names, now is it?

Now is the time for those Future War Criminals to wake the hell up and stop spouting propaganda, and start thinking for themselves.

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Republicans are not Nazis!
Posted by: Upset on Jul 20, 2007 2:03 PM   
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I don't understand. Labels are not arguments. To simply label College Republicans as Hitler Youth does not make them Nazi -- or National Socialists which is the official name of the party. Please explain what specifically in the College Republicans makes them Nazi. What philosophical foundations are there in labelling these young people as Nazi partisans since they are not socialists and are for the most part free marketeers. Why these people who tend to be for less government would be partisans of a philosophy that called for the omnipotence of the State. Why are these Christians put in the same boat as Nazi whose philosophy was essential Hegalian (and therefore anti-Christan and actually more akin to Marxism).
Labels are not arguments. Insults are not arguments. You may not agree but at least get your facts and philosophy correct.

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» RE: epublicans are not Nazis! Posted by: opeluboy
» RE: epublicans are not Nazis! Posted by: wolfdaughter
Extermination is the only solution. Revolution is necessary and inevitable.
Posted by: zyxwvut on Jul 20, 2007 2:12 PM   
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The misery of the poor throughout the world is growing exponentially as the project of globalization advances. The world is overpopulated and resources are distributed in the shape of an awkward hourglass - a relatively large upper bulb, a thin mid-section, and a gigantic bottom bulge.

This arrangement cannot endure. When the collapse begins, the poor will panic as food becomes unavailable, the rich will preemptively retaliate - pretaliate - for fear of unrest, the battles lines will be drawn, and the global civil war will commence. One side has to win and the poor have overwhelming numbers on their side. Sure, the rich have technology, but what good are sophisticated weapons when they are not being built by the underclass that now resents their former masters.

Blood will flow. The unjust - and many of the just - will be cleansed from the face of the world in fire.

The campus vermin will be totally unprepared to confront a real competition where life and death define the stakes. Their families will perish miserably in the mayhem. Their lines will be erased from history. They can only compete inside a corporate bubble world. That bubble is swollen and will burst.

The United States has chosen the side of greed and arrogance. Our downfall is deserved, collateral damage be damned.

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» No, he didn't. Posted by: justaguy
» RE: No, he didn't. Posted by: EncinoM
» Oh dear. Posted by: justaguy
» Exterminate them HOW? Posted by: veggiegrrrl
» RE: xterminate them HOW? Posted by: zyxwvut
In case this story causes some confusion...
Posted by: dover23 on Jul 20, 2007 2:46 PM   
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Ron Paul is a Republican.
Ron Paul has voted against the war from the start.
Ron Paul's support is growing by leaps and bounds.
The media, left right and center, continue to ignore him.

Expect Ron Paul to be ignored by Alternot and more stories strictly about hawkish Republicans such as these type of psychos. I detect no mix in the message.

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» RON PAUL Posted by: Maggieb
» RE: ON PAUL Posted by: kelly.nickell
SOMEBODY WANTS A RIOT THIS SUMMER
Posted by: Roverton on Jul 20, 2007 3:26 PM   
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Refuse them the satisfaction.

Why?

Because they want one, that's why.

NEVER GIVE THE ENEMY WHAT THEY WANT!

No violence. Civilization needs civil civilians.

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Take some comfort readers...
Posted by: opeluboy on Jul 20, 2007 6:04 PM   
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...in the certain knowledge that this is a very small percentage of college-age Americans who think like this.

These are the guys that used to wear suits and ties to school back in my day. These were the guys in ROTC. We laughed at them then, we laugh at them now.

But the good news is that more kids this age are heading to the left in droves. These pathetic Reagan corpse fuckers will end up sad, disillusioned rejects. If they get married, even their kids will hate them.

So let them have their little get together, their little conservative circle jerk. It's the closest thing to victory, acceptance or humanity they will ever achieve.

Now let's laugh at them some more.

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How will they handle THIS kind of power?
Posted by: Gisele on Jul 20, 2007 6:37 PM   
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Executive Order: Blocking Property of Certain Persons Who Threaten Stabilization Efforts in Iraq
For Immediate Release
Office of the Press Secretary
July 17, 2007
White House


By the authority vested in me as President by the Constitution and the laws of the United States of America, including the International Emergency Economic Powers Act, as amended (50 U.S.C. 1701 et seq.)(IEEPA), the National Emergencies Act (50 U.S.C. 1601 et seq.)(NEA), and section 301 of title 3, United States Code,

I, GEORGE W. BUSH, President of the United States of America, find that, due to the unusual and extraordinary threat to the national security and foreign policy of the United States posed by acts of violence threatening the peace and stability of Iraq and undermining efforts to promote economic reconstruction and political reform in Iraq and to provide humanitarian assistance to the Iraqi people, it is in the interests of the United States to take additional steps with respect to the national emergency declared in Executive Order 13303 of May 22, 2003, and expanded in Executive Order 13315 of August 28, 2003, and relied upon for additional steps taken in Executive Order 13350 of July 29, 2004, and Executive Order 13364 of November 29, 2004. I hereby order:

Section 1. (a) Except to the extent provided in section 203(b)(1), (3), and (4) of IEEPA (50 U.S.C. 1702(b)(1), (3), and (4)), or in regulations, orders, directives, or licenses that may be issued pursuant to this order, and notwithstanding any contract entered into or any license or permit granted prior to the date of this order, all property and interests in property of the following persons, that are in the United States, that hereafter come within the United States, or that are or hereafter come within the possession or control of United States persons, are blocked and may not be transferred, paid, exported, withdrawn, or otherwise dealt in: any person determined by the Secretary of the Treasury, in consultation with the Secretary of State and the Secretary of Defense,

(i) to have committed, or to pose a significant risk of committing, an act or acts of violence that have the purpose or effect of:

(A) threatening the peace or stability of Iraq or the Government of Iraq; or

(B) undermining efforts to promote economic reconstruction and political reform in Iraq or to provide humanitarian assistance to the Iraqi people;

(ii) to have materially assisted, sponsored, or provided financial, material, logistical, or technical support for, or goods or services in support of, such an act or acts of violence or any person whose property and interests in property are blocked pursuant to this order; or

(iii) to be owned or controlled by, or to have acted or purported to act for or on behalf of, directly or indirectly, any person whose property and interests in property are blocked pursuant to this order.

(b) The prohibitions in subsection (a) of this section include, but are not limited to, (i) the making of any contribution or provision of funds, goods, or services by, to, or for the benefit of any person whose property and interests in property are blocked pursuant to this order, and (ii) the receipt of any contribution or provision of funds, goods, or services from any such person.

Sec. 2. (a) Any transaction by a United States person or within the United States that evades or avoids, has the purpose of evading or avoiding, or attempts to violate any of the prohibitions set forth in this order is prohibited.

(b) Any conspiracy formed to violate any of the prohibitions set forth in this order is prohibited.

Sec. 3. For purposes of this order:

(a) the term "person" means an individual or entity;

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» DON'T PANIC (yet) Posted by: brotherjonah
Surprised Anymore?
Posted by: SJ on Jul 20, 2007 6:38 PM   
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Just learning that my young nephew has enlisted so he can get an education. Its not worth it. Try as I may to find some other source to fight these peoples works of death. Emails for MOVEON are for a slow painful extracted another million dead iragi. If impeachment is off the tabel, and we don't know why by now. And they will not cut the funding and we do not know why by now. So call liberal media spits us a trace of the partial truth, and we don't know why by now. The Bush declares himself KIng and executive priviledge,continues to remove our rights. We become narrowed in our choices. If an election can have no effect on policy, and the power of the military is raised as a counterweight to any attempt to shift government policy, what alternative presents itself to the population? Here it is worth citing another passage from the Declaration of Independence:

“Whenever any form of government becomes destructive of these [the rights of the population], it is the right of the people to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their safety and happiness... [W]hen a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same object, evinces a design to reduce them under absolute despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such government, and to provide new guards for their future security.”

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What about the females?
Posted by: scheherezade on Jul 20, 2007 7:00 PM   
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Why on earth didn't Blumenthal ask any of the female participants why they weren't in uniform? Conservative women are often more complicit in anti-democracy efforts than their oh-so-sincere mates. Spot them at any right wing political rally/tent revival (tarted up in full makeup and Daisy Duke country western regalia or whatever Victoria's Secret off the rack they last saw Lindsay Lohan wearing) goading the "min" to war, maim, steal, and generally do every nasty thing necessary to accumulate a fat wad of cash/booty to bring back home to smuckums. Not only would these avaricious cows never, ever step foot onto a battlefield, they'll do everything possible to make sure no other woman succeeds in any endeavor that might threaten Mr. Man's authority to issue goodies.

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USSR,Democracys Don't work here's why
Posted by: SJ on Jul 20, 2007 8:30 PM   
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The fall of USSR dose not prove that maxist or trotskyist philosophy is not capable as a goverment for the people. Our capitalism or democracy as you call it has been a failure at least since the depression. It has only survived because of killing and war. It is what has sustained our growth since were were lifted up out of misery and a hair from revolution that, had they not used SOCIALIST ideas to save the US. As we also sold tons of goods to the Germans as Hitler started his little parade. The elite in this country were perfectly willing to let us drown had Rosevelt not steped in. So don't start that marxist is a farce. You would not have what you do had it not been for that philosophy, that the right and elite has been out to destroy since it was instigated, since people were starving and living in the streets on the failed capitalist system.
The very thing that lifted you and yours up you wish to degrade and tear down. Whats not rosey is the carnage that we have become and created is going to have to be destroyed or it will destroy us. The class thinking of the Marxist and other socialist thinkers lives on, because it is for the common man it exists and holds up. Those who betray it and the common man do not last and that is the history of the USSR and the democracy or republic of the Roman empire (proff democracys and republics do not work) to use you way of thinking. This is why all fail. It is not the function of our Government to keep the citizen from falling into error; it is the function of the citizen to keep the Government from falling into error.
-- Robert Houghwout Jackson,
Chief Judge at the War-Crimes Tribunal in Nuremberg

With our king declaring more dictatorship, assertion of exsecutive power,and a system that won't impeach, nov elections zilch. And further declarations of even military control. Choices are being lost for the people who are this country. So next If an election can have no effect on policy, and the power of the military is raised as a counterweight to any attempt to shift government policy, what alternative presents itself to the population? Here it is worth citing another passage from the Declaration of Independence:

“Whenever any form of government becomes destructive of these [the rights of the population], it is the right of the people to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their safety and happiness... [W]hen a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same object, evinces a design to reduce them under absolute despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such government, and to provide new guards for their future security.”

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Agree but Democrates not offering but more military complexwar
Posted by: SJ on Jul 20, 2007 9:00 PM   
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The only voices offering a real alternative will not get their parties nomination and the corporations and elites will not donate to them, because they are to much of a threat. Last time the media litterally Black Balled Howard Dean the only true anti war , social medicine, internet supported voice . The media and their, whoever powers that be, dropped him and put in a pro war canidate. The powers that be want war and military dominance. HOW CANNOT ANY ONE NOT SEE THE TWO PARTY CORRUPTION TO FASCISM. Sorry it is going to take some innovation because we have a failed system without the media. MOVEON is even backing these military redeployment plans. Most of the media and so called left ones The Nation all of em are not doing the right thing, they are doing the money thing global economy and heggemony on the ME oil. Democrates are not , its two roads diverge inteh forest but end both end up in ROME. High road low road nomatter well all get their at the same time. Dday THEY ARE SERIOUSLY READY TO DEPLOY TO LEBANON AND ( unbelievable Pakistan). Dose any one know how many are in Pakistan. When articles appear by certain folks in Wall street and Times , Mr. Hersh has not been to far off either . Talk of further enforce on domestic cause of even higher threat. O8 and slow withdrawal. They know they have to move fast. HEY, DEMOFLITLECRATES CAN ONLY FAKE EM OUT SO WELL FOR SO LONG. Mrs Pelosi at those rallys looked a bit nervous,with folks yelling stop the war.

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The military doesn't take people with asthma. m.
Posted by: lwbaby on Jul 20, 2007 9:29 PM   
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My daughter tried to join and was denied because she had asthma as a child but also a documented episode at age 17. Apparently, the Federal Government doesn't want to be financially responsible for asthma treatment later in life for it's military personnel.

Given the proliferation of people diagnosed with asthma these days it's not surprising that those with the pre-existing condiiton are denied. Even the military is hedging it's bets.

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» That one I could see. Posted by: brotherjonah
I'm glad she didn't go either. nm.
Posted by: lwbaby on Jul 20, 2007 10:17 PM   
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Go the terrorists!
Posted by: wisegalah on Jul 21, 2007 5:53 AM   
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If the terrorists were to blow up this convention with its collection of chinless, gutless, dishonest and utterly selfish little Republican shits then the terrorists would at last be serving a useful purpose.

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We've seen how they squeal... this one issue is hitting the piggies hard
Posted by: brotherjonah on Jul 21, 2007 1:07 PM   
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There's a passage I hear quoted a lot in Martial Arts circles, usually it's cited as from The Art of War, but you can see where the way into any fortification is, the weakest point, because that's where they'll have the most guards.

The source might not be the right one, but the saying surely is true.
There's been a lot of "how dare you call us Nazis /Fascists /Right Wing / totalitarian dictatorial wannabe thugs..." but not a whole lot of attempts to justify the attitudes of these oversize children. It's not the inherent callousness or the deep seated cowardice exhibited by them that makes the Right Wingers angry,

it's the very Idea that somebody else might be offended enough to say something about it.

I expect that the Bull Oh,Really? Fiction is going to have a long segment dedicated to this very story. Likewise the Fairly Unbalanced Hannity and Colmes are going to be whining about it as well.

Squeal all you want, little piggies. That's how we know we have the knife in the right (wing) place.

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Do not underestimate the "New" Praetorian Guards recruitment methods
Posted by: Bearzerker on Jul 21, 2007 6:02 PM   
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Chickenhawks?
Sure some could be considered this but all I see is a growing threat against western democracy via" a new age Praetorian Guard" though very halls of our modern democracy that the founders themselves built with their own blood and has been nurtured since then with the blood of generations!

How you say?... the current ruling Plutocratic "Neo-cons" are deploying a proven methodology by using resent lessons in history to placate and then embolden the more malleable young minds for their greed profit and monopoly... They now have the means [MSM control "to direct the debates", Patent and Copyright law "to fund" and now the Judiciary "to enforce"] behind them, and feeding this fire is their recruitment tool called the US Armed Forces[through the military industrial complex].
Don't mistake honorable military service with corporate headhunting, it is most important that people understand the difference in this!

Once the young mind is pushed through the military industrial complex meat grinder and indoctrinated through the Pentagons unending wars... they are then selectively recruited by the CIA and Mercenary Incorporated which was bad back in the day [when the CIA was the sole recruiters as they at least had oversight] but these new up and coming corporatist mercenary brigades are fast becoming the new tools of plutocrats everywhere... just look at Africa to see the end results...

It's time to neuter these mercenary establishments before their lobby groups become more powerful than the soon to be defunct, medical/insurance/pharma coalition currently deciding policy in Washington these days! [perhaps ending lobby funding of the political process may solve this]

So I ask you...
what role is fanatical Christianity having in the dumbing down of America?
"can you say" ...separation of church and state.
whats happening to higher education in the land of the free?
"can you say" ...no Child left behind.
Are we a Democracy, or are we the "New" Republic?
"can you say" ... both Demoncrats and Rethugicans are sheep ruled by wolves.
Have you ever wondered how far off our forebears path, [made in their blood] we've fallen?
"can you say" ...same planet... different worlds...
and are the "no minds" reported here, the assemblage of the new empirical guard?
"can you say" ...could be.

We must realize that the current political process within the US is a two party system that has at times had violently diametrical opposing viewpoints throughout its history... some call it the Adams/Jefferson detentes, but for the past 40 years or more the Jefferson camp has been taken over by the current Neo-Con Cabal that is serving itself first at the expense of the many true Jeffersonians.

My point to this rant is that education should liberate and free us all from this nonsense but stupidity seems to be rampant these days!

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College Republicans = College Democrats
Posted by: Reader11722 on Jul 21, 2007 6:45 PM   
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Unfortunately it took segregationist Governor Wallace to reveal the truth that "there's not a dime's worth of difference between" Republicans and Democrats. The Democrats willingly went along with the War in Iraq, suspension of Habeas Corpus, detaining protesters, banning books like "America Deceived' from Amazon, stealing private lands (Kelo decision), warrant-less wiretapping and refusing to investigate 9/11 properly. They are both guilty of treason. Support Dr. Ron Paul and end this madness.
Last link (before Stark County District Library bends to gov't Will and drops the title):
America Deceived (book)

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YOUNG REPUBLICANS TAKE THEIR HIPPOCRITIC OATH
Posted by: SALLY EVANS on Jul 22, 2007 1:03 PM   
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APPARENTLY THEY DO NOT KNOW THAT THE IRAQ WAR WAS PLANNED IN THE LATE NINETIES BY THE P.N.A.C. HOWEVER. I COULD BE NAIVE. THEY SEEM TO BE COPY CATS OF THE RETARD BUSH AND ARE AS CALLOUS AS THEIR REMARKS INDICATE.

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Maybe , but also assuming, PLUS
Posted by: SJ on Jul 22, 2007 9:54 PM   
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what about the the courts life time appointments Roberts. Alito. With a broken system do you really think we can trust the election or even that Bush could declare other with the stuff he has changed. One thing is odd he has had to change military generals alot hasn't he . Couldn't that be a sign there is desention in the ranks on being able to get the job done. Bush is appointing somebody new constantly, part of their confuse to divide and conquer. People in Iraq must feel insane. How ever he is winning ! He continues to get funding, the incompetent goverment in Iraq keeps the divisions divided. As long as caous is there theyare able to find a reason to occupy, stay til democracy is secure. Here at home the dictator continues to also pass law to enable his crown.

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Maybe , but also assuming, PLUS
Posted by: SJ on Jul 22, 2007 10:06 PM   
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what about the the courts life time appointments Roberts. Alito. With a broken system do you really think we can trust the election or even that Bush could declare other with the stuff he has changed. One thing is odd he has had to change military generals alot hasn't he . Couldn't that be a sign there is desention in the ranks on being able to get the job done. Bush is appointing somebody new constantly, part of their confuse to divide and conquer. People in Iraq must feel insane. How ever he is winning ! He continues to get funding, the incompetent goverment in Iraq keeps the divisions divided. As long as caous is there theyare able to find a reason to occupy, stay til democracy is secure. Here at home the dictator continues to also pass law to enable his crown. A FEW NOTICABLE PROTEST AND CIVIL DISOBEDIENCE OR CLOSE . THEY NEED CHALLENGED MY THE MAJORITY. Not advocating violence. MObilization in various key US metropolis. We have no media, this is why I propose more than one.

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