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Blank Checks for Defense Spending: Where's the Fight from Congress?

By Robert Dreyfuss, Tomdispatch.com. Posted June 6, 2007.


Defense spending has nearly doubled since the mid-1990s, and Democrats willing to challenge the bloated Pentagon budget are essentially nonexistent.
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War critics are rightly disappointed over the inability of congressional Democrats to mount an effective challenge to President Bush's Iraq adventure. What began as a frontal assault on the war, with tough talk about deadlines and timetables, has settled into something like a guerrilla-style campaign to chip away at war policy until the edifice crumbles.



Still, Democratic criticism of administration policy in Iraq looks muscle-bound when compared with the Party's readiness to go along with the President's massive military buildup, domestically and globally. Nothing underlines the tacit alliance between so-called foreign-policy realists and hard-line exponents of neoconservative-style empire-building more than the Washington consensus that the United States needs to expand the budget of the Defense Department without end, while increasing the size of the U.S. Armed Forces. In addition, spending on the 16 agencies and other organizations that make up the official U.S. "intelligence community" or IC -- including the CIA -- and on homeland security is going through the roof.




The numbers are astonishing and, except for a hardy band of progressives in the House of Representatives, Democrats willing to call for shrinking the bloated Pentagon or intelligence budgets are essentially nonexistent. Among presidential candidates, only Rep. Dennis Kucinich and New Mexico Governor Bill Richardson even mention the possibility of cutting the defense budget. Indeed, presidential candidates Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama are, at present, competing with each other in their calls for the expansion of the Armed Forces. Both are supporting manpower increases in the range of 80,000 to 100,000 troops, mostly for the Army and the Marines. (The current, Bush-backed authorization for fiscal year 2008 calls for the addition of 65,000 more Army recruits and 27,000 Marines by 2012.)



How astonishing are the budgetary numbers? Consider the trajectory of U.S. defense spending over the last nearly two decades. From the end of the Cold War into the mid-1990s, defense spending actually fell significantly. In constant 1996 dollars, the Pentagon's budget dropped from a peacetime high of $376 billion, at the end of President Ronald Reagan's military buildup in 1989, to a low of $265 billion in 1996. (That compares to post-World War II wartime highs of $437 billion in 1953, during the Korean War, and $388 billion in 1968, at the peak of the War in Vietnam.) After the Soviet empire peacefully disintegrated, the 1990s decline wasn't exactly the hoped-for "peace dividend," but it wasn't peanuts either.



However, since September 12th, 2001, defense spending has simply exploded. For 2008, the Bush administration is requesting a staggering $650 billion, compared to the already staggering $400 billion the Pentagon collected in 2001. Even subtracting the costs of the ongoing "Global War on Terrorism" -- which is what the White House likes to call its wars in Iraq and Afghanistan -- for FY 2008, the Pentagon will still spend $510 billion. In other words, even without the President's two wars, defense spending will have nearly doubled since the mid-1990s. Given that the United States has literally no significant enemy state to fight anywhere on the planet, this represents a remarkable, if perverse, achievement. As a famous Democratic politician once asked: Where is the outrage?




Neocons, war profiteers, and hardliners of all stripes still argue that the "enemy" we face is a nonexistent bugaboo called "Islamofascism." It's easy to imagine them laughing into their sleeves while they continue to claim that the way to battle low-tech, rag-tag bands of leftover Al Qaeda crazies is by spending billions of dollars on massively expensive, massively powerful, futuristic weapons systems.



As always, a significant part of the defense bill is eaten up by these big-ticket items. According to the reputable Center for Arms Control and Nonproliferation, there are at least 28 pricey weapons systems that, just by themselves, will rack up a whopping $44 billion in 2008. The projected cost of these 28 systems -- which include fighter jets, the B-2 bomber, the V-22 Osprey, various advanced naval vessels, cruise-missile systems, and the ultra-expensive aircraft carriers the Navy always demands -- will, in the end, be more than $1 trillion. And that's not even including the Star Wars missile-defense system, which at the moment soaks up about $11 billion a year.



By one count, U.S. defense spending in 2008 will amount to 29 times the combined military spending of all six so-called rogue states: Cuba, Iran, Libya, North Korea, Sudan, and Syria. The United States accounts for almost half -- approximately 48% -- of the entire world's spending on what we like to call "defense." Again, according to the Center for Arms Control and Nonproliferation, U.S. defense spending this year amounts to exactly twice the combined military spending of the next six biggest military powers: China, Russia, the U.K., France, Japan, and Germany.



Despite this, like presidential candidates Clinton and Obama, the right-wing Democratic Leadership Council is pushing hard to tie the party to increased military spending. Writes journalist Aaron Glantz:



"'America needs a bigger and better military,' reads an October report by Will Marshall of the Progressive Policy Institute, the policy arm of the centrist Democratic Leadership Council that counts Senators Hillary Clinton (D-NY) and Evan Bayh (D-IN) among its members.



"'Escalating conflicts in Iraq and Afghanistan have stretched the all-volunteer force to the breaking point,' the report says. 'Democrats should step forward with a plan to repair the damage, by adding more troops, replenishing depleted stocks of equipment, and reorganizing the force around the new missions of unconventional warfare, counterinsurgency, and civil reconstruction.'"


So hostile is the atmosphere in Congress to cuts of any sort in military spending that even a recent effort by traditional defense critics to suggest ways to reorient the Pentagon's budgetary priorities turned out to involve but the most modest of rebalancings. A coalition of these critics from organizations such as the Institute for Policy Studies, the Center for American Progress, and other left and left-center groups, including such experts as Larry Korb of CAP, Carl Conetta of the Project on Defense Alternatives, and William Hartung of the World Policy Institute, suggested cutting $56 billion from offensive weapons systems, but then proposed to shift fully $50 billion of it into areas such as homeland security, international peacekeeping, and "nation building."



Why, exactly, we need to increase Pentagon spending even in those categories is mystifying, since no country is actually threatening us and -- if the Iraqi and Afghani wars were settled -- the problem of terrorism could be adequately dealt with by mobilizing relatively modest numbers of CIA officers and FBI and law enforcement agents. The fact that such respected defense critics feel compelled to put forward such a lame proposal is a sign of our crimped times; a sign that, pragmatically speaking, it is simply verboten to criticize Pentagon bloat, even given the current, Democrat-controlled Congress. It's not that the public is pro-military spending either. Indeed, in a Gallup Poll conducted in February, fully 43% of Americans said they believed that the United States is spending "too much" on defense, while only 20% said "too little." Rather, it's a sign that the political class -- perhaps swayed by the influence of the military-industrial complex and its army of lobbyists -- hasn't yet caught up to public opinion.





And it's important to keep in mind that the official Pentagon budget doesn't begin to tell the full story of American "defense" spending. In addition to the $650 billion that the Pentagon will get in 2008, huge additional sums will be spent on veterans care and interest on the national debt accumulated from previous DOD spending that ballooned the deficit. In all, those two accounts add $263 billion to the Pentagon budget, for a grand total of $913 billion.



Then there are the intelligence and homeland security budgets. Back in the 1990s, when I started reporting on the CIA and the U.S. intelligence community, its entire budget was about $27 billion. Last year, although the number is supposed to be top secret, the Bush administration revealed that intelligence spending had reached $44 billion. For 2008, according to media reports, Congress is working on an authorization of $48 billion for our spies.



Again, when I first wrote about "homeland security" in the late 1990s -- it was then called "counterterrorism" -- the Clinton administration was spending $17 billion in interagency budgets in this area. For 2008, the budget of the Department of Homeland Security -- that mishmash, incompetent agency hurriedly assembled under pressure from uber-hawk Joe Lieberman (even the Bush administration was initially opposed to its creation) -- will be $46.4 billion.



To a rational observer, such spending -- totaling more than $1 trillion in 2008, according to the figures I've just cited -- seems quite literally insane. During the Cold War, hawks scared Americans into tolerating staggering but somewhat lesser sums by invoking the specter of Soviet Communism. Does anyone, anywhere, truly believe that we need to spend more than a trillion dollars a year to defend ourselves against small bands of al-Qaeda fanatics?


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Robert Dreyfuss is the author of "Devil's Game: How the United States Helped Unleash Fundamentalist Islam" (Henry Holt/Metropolitan Books).

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If you think the DOD budget is bloated now, wait until Hillary become commander-in-chief.
Posted by: HughScott on Jun 6, 2007 1:01 AM   
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I posted the following comment on another thread this week, but it deserves repeating.

"AIPAC and Hillary Clinton"

Before AlterNet lefties accuse me of being anti-Semitic, as someone who visited Dachau and the Ann Frank House while touring Europe in 1966, I was at one time an ardent supporter of Israel -- back when it followed humanistic Hebrew law.

Now, sadly, because of the fascist Likud Party, King David's once righteous warriors have become cowardly neocons. Just like their spineless PNAC cousins in America.

Case at point: Israel using helicopter gunships to kill innocent civilians in Palestine and doing the same thing in Lebanon last summer with IDF cluster bombs and U.S.-supplied 2,000-lb depleted uranium bunker busters. How can anyone approve of those barbaric tactics? They can't, but Hillary Rodham Clinton apparently does.

Consider the following excerpts from CounterPunch.org article titled, “Hillary Clinton, AIPAC and Iran” by Joshua Frank (01/26/06).

AIPAC's hypocrisy is stomach-turning, to say the least. The goliath lobbying organization wants Iran to be slapped across the knuckles while the crimes of Israel continue to be ignored. And who is propping up AIPAC's hypocritical position? Senator Hillary Clinton of New York.

As the top Democratic recipient of pro-Israel funds for the 2006 election cycle thus far, pocketing over $58,000 as of October 31 last year, Senator Clinton now has Iran in her cross-hairs.

During a Hanukkah dinner speech delivered on December 11, hosted by Yeshiva University, Clinton prattled, "I held a series of meetings with Israeli officials [last summer], including the prime minister and the foreign minister and the head of the [Israeli Defense Force] to discuss such challenges we confront."

"In each of these meetings, we talked at length about the dire threat posed by the potential of a nuclear-armed Iran, not only to Israel, but also to Europe and Russia. Just this week, the new president of Iran made further outrageous comments that attacked Israel's right to exist that are simply beyond the pale of international discourse and acceptability."

"During my meeting with Prime Minister Ariel Sharon, I was reminded vividly of the threats that Israel faces every hour of every day ... It became even more clear how important it is for the United States to stand with Israel ..."

As Sen. Clinton embraces Israel's violence, as well as AIPAC's duplicitous Iran position, she simultaneously ignores the hostilities inflicted upon Palestine, as numerous Palestinians have been killed during the recent shelling of the Gaza Strip. Over the past weeks Israel continues to mark the occupied territories (they call 'buffer zones') like a frothing-mouth K9 on the loose.

Hillary Clinton's silence toward Israel's brutality implies the senator will continue to support AIPAC's mission to occupy the whole of the occupied territories, as well as a war on Iran in the future. AIPAC's right -- even President Bush appears to be a little sheepish when up against Hillary "warmonger" Clinton.

End of the CounterPunch extract.

If you believe that Slick Willie’s flyweight understudy should not become president of the United States, visit the nonpartisan website: www.STOP-Hillary.com.

Okay, you Clinton cult members -- BRING IT ON!

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I guess there is more than one way to build a centralized economy
Posted by: Rune on Jun 6, 2007 1:26 AM   
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Of course, when you invest your capital and labor in an ever wider array of "products" and "services" that good people really, really don't want and that bad people will use to do bad things, possibly to your own people, and spending spirals out of control without any realistic plan to pay for it, the results are always the same. Apparently that sort of collapse is the only thing that will stop the biggest corporate-government, all-they-can-eat pork barbecue with killer techno entertainment now that the public is locked out and the hosts are just feeding themselves on our credit card so long as the charges go through.

It's a truly weird day when the progressive left is jonesin' for something resembling fiscal conservativism backed by free market principles to save them from the unending burden of ill conceived public services and alleged security measures the right wing establishment is forcing on the public by way of the Democratic majority, which is being led by the Republicans, who, for all of their spending on death and destruction, can't escape the fact that they really are creating enemies faster than they can kill them.

Oh, well, at least we're winning the war on the environment.

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Employer of Last Resort
Posted by: edith on Jun 6, 2007 1:37 AM   
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What has the doubling of the defense budget accomplished? A prliferation of govt consultants and contractors and an artificially subsidized employment market just as the economy was settling into stagnation and unemployment just before 9/11. The defense and "homeland security" budgets
are the WPA-CCC-New Deal employment programs of the 21st century. The US exports defense services (put that in quotes please) to the rest of the world. Unemployment stays low and the two major "parties" stay in power.

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» Agreed Posted by: ateo
National Defense, not National Offense...
Posted by: Michael Boldin on Jun 6, 2007 4:07 AM   
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I would actually like to see some national defense in this country. Right now, there's almost none. Instead, hundred and hundreds of billions of dollars are continually spent feeding and expanding the beast that's really a national OF-fense.

This does nothing, whatsoever, to protect our country. It clearly makes us less safe. Why? Because this national offense is always used to anger people and create enemies. It's used to base the military in 120+ nations, back coups and assassinations, prop up foreign dictators, and wage wars that kill millions.

A good offense is the best defense may work in sports, but it's a complete and abject failure in the realm of international diplomacy. On top of it, much of what they do with this national offense is immoral and unconstitutional.

We need a new direction. Some further reading if you're interested:

"Leaders Don't Kill People..." - click here

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Are you saying "The military-industrial complex is dangerous"?
Posted by: Sojourner on Jun 6, 2007 4:36 AM   
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As the world's policeman, we need weapons. How many and what kind has become an unmanageable problem.

Our role as world policeman can be used to provoke a completely unnecessary arms race, as Bush's talk about anti-missiles in central Europe seems likely to do. No one wants a policeman who is a "bad cop." Yet that is the classic Bush ploy: bluster and brag, in order to stir up trouble with missiles that don't work against a threat that doesn't exist. While we focus on that, we will not notice what a bad job he is doing in foreign policy.

Where did he learn his foreign policy? From watching the Sopranos? The sad fact is that he will stir up a gang war. Sad, that is for us. But for his friends in the munitions business, it's more money in the bank.

The arms race is little different from being addicted to drugs. Once you start, you cannot stop. What we need is a rehabilitation program, but there's none in sight. So when do we see an all-out, full-time peace party?

The foundational party platform plank is to internationalize enriched atomic fuel. That is, a UN agency should have the power to identify, inventory, and monitor every bit of nuclear material. It should have the power to go wherever and whenever it wants, unrestrained! Surely we can agree that nuclear proliferation is suicide.

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» Kids Are Only Scanning The Future Posted by: eddie torres
What if we just let everyone else in the world fight their wars in peace?
Posted by: Illiteratilumen on Jun 6, 2007 5:58 AM   
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I love military hardware. I won't lie about it. Sure a lot of weapon systems are failures (V-22 Osprey, missile defense, the tank parachute) but we've got some pretty awesome machines of death and destruction. That's a little off-point, though.

I've said this before. The issue is not the type of weapons our military uses, the issue is how a nation uses its military. Personally I don't care if the U.S. develops some kind of depleted-uranium guided fragmentation bomb that only kills babies so long as we never use it unless the United States - not Europe, not Africa, not Aisa - is directly threatened.

Simply adopting a non-interventionalist policy and bringing our armed forces stationed overseas back to U.S. soil and keeping them here, protecting the U.S., will slash a tremendous amount of money from the military budget. We could probably get away with a smaller military as well (but I don't think it should be gutted) and I'm totally fine with spending a few hundred billion on an overkill military that makes the notion of invading the U.S. laughable.

Of course bringing them all home won't be so simple and it will take a lot of willpower to keep them here. Most Democrats love a good war just as much as Republicans and the tough part is staying out of foreign conflicts and letting other nations and tribes/sects settle their differences in whatever manner befits the conflict and their culture. Lets get our own house in order before we try cleaning up other people's for them.

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Well, at least we know the public doesn't support this...
Posted by: SteveB on Jun 6, 2007 6:41 AM   
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Today, 43 percent of Americans say that the country is spending "too much" on the military, while 20 percent say "too little".

The next time someone tells you that the U.S. spends as much on the military as the rest of the world combined because Americans are SUV-drivin' flag-wavin' militarists, it might be good to remember this poll.

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» All this for a nation... Posted by: JoshuaLudd
Union jobs, pork & elections
Posted by: sausage on Jun 6, 2007 6:44 AM   
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One reason I can think of why Congressional Democrats aren't interested in reining in defense spending is that, the defense industry is one of the last domestic industries that is highly unionized.

Secondly, Congressional Democrats can pretend they support "free market capitalist" by voting for a bloated defense appropriations since the DoD does business in every state and every congressional district in the nation, the Pork is too good to pass up.

Third, consultants advise Congressional Democrats that looking strong on "security" wins elections.

Keep in mind that one of the so-called most "liberal" states in the union, Massachusetts, is heavily dependent upon defense spending. Even the Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT) was ranked among the top 100 defense contractors for 2004.

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parasitic imperialism and Democratic Party "defense" policies
Posted by: lonl1 on Jun 6, 2007 8:42 AM   
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from Lenin's 1916 Imperialism, the Highest Stage of Capitalism courtesy of Marxists Internet Archive:

...the deepest economic foundation of imperialism is monopoly. This is capitalist monopoly, i.e., monopoly which has grown out of capitalism and which exists in the general environment of capitalism, commodity production and competition, in permanent and insoluble contradiction to this general environment. Nevertheless, like all monopoly, it inevitably engenders a tendency of stagnation and decay. Since monopoly prices are established, even temporarily, the motive cause of technical and, consequently, of all other progress disappears to a certain extent and, further, the economic possibility arises of deliberately retarding technical progress. ... Certainly, monopoly under capitalism can never completely, and for a very long period of time, eliminate competition in the world market .... Certainly, the possibility of reducing the cost of production and increasing profits by introducing technical improvements operates in the direction of change. But the tendency to stagnation and decay, which is characteristic of monopoly, continues to operate, and in some branches of industry, in some countries, for certain periods of time, it gains the upper hand.

The monopoly ownership of very extensive, rich or well situated colonies operates in the same direction.

Further, imperialism is an immense accumulation of money capital in a few countries..... Hence the extraordinary growth of a...stratum of rentiers, i.e., people who live by “clipping coupons”, who take no part in any enterprise whatever, whose profession is idleness. The export of capital, one of the most essential economic bases of imperialism, still more completely isolates the rentiers from production and sets the seal of parasitism on the whole country that lives by exploiting the labour of several overseas countries and colonies.


[some snipped. He continues about the then-leading imperialist power:]

The rentier state is a state of parasitic, decaying capitalism, and this circumstance cannot fail to influence all the socio-political conditions of the countries concerned, in general, and the two fundamental trends in the working-class movement, in particular. To demonstrate this in the clearest possible manner let me quote Hobson, who is a most reliable witness, since he cannot be suspected of leaning towards Marxist orthodoxy; on the other hand, he is an Englishman who is very well acquainted with the situation in the country which is richest in colonies, in finance capital, and in imperialist experience.

With the Anglo-Boer War fresh in his mind, Hobson describes the connection between imperialism and the interests of the “financiers”, their growing profits from contracts, supplies, etc., and writes: “While the directors of this definitely parasitic policy are capitalists, the same motives appeal to special classes of the workers. In many towns most important trades are dependent upon government employment or contracts; the imperialism of the metal and shipbuilding centres is attributable in no small degree to this fact.” Two sets of circumstances, in this writer’s opinion, have weakened the old empires: (1) “economic parasitism”, and (2) the formation of armies recruited from subject peoples. “There is first the habit of economic parasitism, by which the ruling state has used its provinces, colonies, and dependencies in order to enrich its ruling class and to bribe its lower classes into acquiescence.” And I shall add that the economic possibility of such bribery, whatever its form may be, requires high monopolist profits.


Lenin's analysis in this regard is truer than ever and essential for understanding today's Democratic Party war policy.

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Who's yer Daddy?
Posted by: willymack on Jun 6, 2007 10:52 AM   
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I'd like to know WHO is is that we have to defend ourselves against. Russia? China? New Zealand? As it is, the rest of the world is scared half to death of georgiepoo's madcap regime and its bellicose stance toward the world at large. Oh, I know, many of you will say that we need a bloated defence establishment to defend ourselves against "terrorists" who hate us because of our "freedoms". This is getting just a little old-even to the most obtuse Americans. The REAL terrorists are in Washington and elsewhere in this country who profit handsomely from all the aspects of war.

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Erm...you mean the Congress that PUNTED their sole power to declare war...
Posted by: ABetterFuture on Jun 6, 2007 11:16 AM   
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...off to the executive branch via a so-called Authorized Use of Military Force?

Oh really now? That Congress?

Or the Congress that cheered when their PUNTING of their authority to write legislation to regulate vehicle emissions standards to an unelected group of RuleMakers (EPA) who answer to GWB was validated by a Supreme Court steeped in worst aspects of the unitary executive theory? Oh wait...did you cheer for the Executive RuleMakers too?

As unpopular as the head(less) decider is, is it any wonder Congress is less so? The more important question on my mind is how much farther they can back up to PUNT before they back off a(nother) cliff.

Not that we'd miss 'em, especially when the Congressional order of the day is to give the executive branch more money, more authority, fewer checks, and more means at its disposal to continue its unbalanced ways.

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Actually, President Eisenhower's televised
Posted by: mcartri on Jun 6, 2007 11:43 AM   
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farewell speech to the Nation was supposed to include, "Beware the military-industrial-congressional complex." Ike was talked out of including the word "congressional" by his staffers, arguing it would offend some of his friends in Congress. Ike understood so well that flock of vultures devoured American tax money at the detriment of the Nation's real human needs. Rent or buy the recent, great documentary, "Why We Fight"(Not Capra's of the same title).

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Ike also said...
Posted by: guybjones on Jun 6, 2007 2:27 PM   
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Eisenhower also stated, rather truthfully and eloquently:

"Every gun that is made, every warship launched, every rocket fired signifies, in the final sense, a theft from those who hunger and are not fed, those who are cold and are not clothed. This world in arms is not spending money alone. It is spending the sweat of its laborers, the genius of its scientists, the hopes of its children. The cost of one modern heavy bomber is this: a modern brick school in more than 30 cities. It is two electric power plants, each serving a town of 60,000 population. It is two fine, fully equipped hospitals. It is some fifty miles of concrete pavement. We pay for a single fighter plane with a half million bushels of wheat. We pay for a single destroyer with new homes that could have housed more than 8,000 people. This is, I repeat, the best way of life to be found on the road the world has been taking. This is not a way of life at all, in any true sense. Under the cloud of threatening war, it is humanity hanging from a cross of iron. [...] Is there no other way the world may live?"

4/16/1953

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» RE: Ike also said... Posted by: leafsong1
All comments and the article are off ...
Posted by: common intelligence on Jun 6, 2007 3:35 PM   
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TAke for instance, just a couple of weeks ago the "Military" (probably Chrysler Corp or eqiuv.) Announced "they have a IED resistant vehicle to replace the Hum-V. The cost 11 Billion! Well not much was said there after.

But the real question is Re: the whole Military budget is Where the hell are they, (Congress) coming up with money to even give to Bush's Follies? China? Who pays?
Not me, directly! Cheney has said, "Debt doesn't even matter". How and where is it borrowed, created out of thin air? Now Bush Boy is trying to sell a missle defense system to stage in Czechoslavakia? Who's he buying from and with what is he paying with?

This country is broke. How do "we" pay for and Invasion (not a war) to feed the appetite of a run-a-way economic lie? It just seems to me, being that the world realizes this whole Iraq thing is about oil, but un admitted by our own government, save Congressman Mc Dermott, that with the exorbanant profits being made by the Oil Co's that they should be paying for it. (This doen't mean I support the War effort at all).

But the reality of the war "game" is that the counrty (USA) is flat ass broke and in debt beyond reconciliation. These congress people and the NeoConJobs talk of billions as if a million was chump change. Rounding off Trillions to the nearest billion like "who's counting".

The value of "money" is virtually disinagrating day by day. people work harder for less value each day. The accumulated wealth of the fortunate boomers is diminishing faster than you can say "Health Care". The return on selling of properties is less in real dollar value than originally dreamed of.

Here's my view. Besides OIL, the drive for the one world economy, by thepowers that be the G8, is to hide or rather shelter the US through a "bait and switch" distractive slight -of-hand scam. That is camoflaging the inevitable distruction of American prosperity. This will lower the illusionary standard of being the middle class have been lead to believe is attainable. Teh dollar will go the way of the Agentine peso.

All these Suburbs of over priced homes will not be able to be sold at a "profitable" level to assure sellers a retirement they have hoped to live off as they get older. That is because the only one that will be buying them are working "class" immigrants working at wages lower than necessary to benefit themselves. After all Americans themselves are few and far between that actually know or want to "work" and produce any tangiblity here. So Where is the money coming from?

This country is in a desparate economic fix, the likes of which has never been seen before. Remember what happened to USSR after it's demise? The people of this country will soon learn what it is to suffer like the rest of the world has.

Bush has burried this country in a burial ground. He ran the companies he resided over before being President just as Michael Moore said and now he has done the same to the counrty, just like Michael Moore said he would.

This guy, Bush, has got to be punished. Think the people of the Us really will? Nancy Pe"lousy" said Impeachments off the table".

Why?

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» good point Posted by: A. Burr
Time for Government To Start Investing In the People
Posted by: sofla100 on Jun 6, 2007 5:33 PM   
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An earlier poster pointed out how the military is the modern version of a government jobs program. This is true, but also, an increasingly large amount of defense and national security spending is being funneled into the private sector. Most of the cooking, transportation, and logistics in Iraq, for example, is not done by soldiers themselves, but by contractors. We see in America an increasing tendency for government to abdicate its responsibility to its citizens, and wherever possible, to fund and subsidize corporations instead. Defense and national security being a prime example. But, beyond this, is America's pathetic unwillingness to spend on her people. Where we should see badly needed public spending; for schools, for healthcare, for basic services, we see instead either nothing or money funneled into corporations. What America needs is a recommittment to the public sector. To programs and services that create jobs and provide education and needed services for the people. And, of course, a good place to start is by gutting "defense" and "national security." Not only will doing this provide America with badly needed money and resources, but will force America to depend more on diplomacy and cooperation to resolve disputes. A much better way of resolving things then putting to work millions of soldiers and contractors kept continuously on the payroll.

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Fight from the democrats?!
Posted by: monkeywrench on Jun 6, 2007 7:46 PM   
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What, you expect Democrats to bite. . .er. . .fight the many hands that feed them? You expect Democrats to turn down the same defense contractors' "campaign contributions" (say: bribes) that Republicans have been whoring after all these years?

And as for "Where's the outrage." –– It's watching, and voting, on American Idol.

That's democracy, American style.

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col. jackleg
Posted by: Col. Jackleg on Jun 7, 2007 5:37 AM   
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"War, what is it good for? Absolutely nothing," except cronyism, big bidness, back door deals, weapons peddling and killing a bunch of shitheads that need it anyway! Huh? Grab your Johnson, hoist a crucifix, wave the flag and shout God Bless Amuricur cuz we got the nukular powah to do as we damned well please and there ain't no republican or dimwitcrat that can or will stop it. Let's see, 2008 looms and then 2012 and then......I fear that we are enduring the curse of Reaganoia and our deliverence is left to that fine array of MammaHandjobHaircutOgodammitRudyfingerinitMcDipshit and the man in the sunset...ole slack-jawed, mumble-mouth Fred, where's the script, Thompson. Gimme a fucking break-is there any hope for this fucked up country???????

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» RE: col. jackleg Posted by: peacefullaim
» RE: col. jackleg Posted by: Col. Jackleg
Defense budget will one of the first things slashed by the Democratic president in '08
Posted by: ateo on Jun 7, 2007 4:52 PM   
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I hope to survive the aftermath and keep my job in the defense industry.

A vote for the Democrats is a vote against my ability to eat and pay my bills. Hence why I vote Republican. Blatant self interest.

The same reason minorities vote Democrat.

So why am I even on this site? Good question.

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» Perhaps Posted by: ateo
» RE: Perhaps Posted by: peacefullaim
» Impressive company Posted by: ateo
» RE: Impressive company Posted by: peacefullaim
Out of touch
Posted by: osd on Jun 8, 2007 7:44 PM   
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This is why politians with money should not be allowed to run for office. No matter how bad it may get in America for the working middle class The rich will still be on top of the Shit heap, looking down being clueless. When did having money make it alright to be out of touch and dishonest with the American people. This is just like the teenage boy who say he'll respect you in the morning just so he can get some. America needs a wake up call and I think she's knocking on the door.

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