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AWOL Soldiers Get Cold Shoulder from Canada

By Mary Ambrose, New America Media. Posted January 5, 2007.


Canada's official reception to war-resisting American soldiers resisting the Iraq war has been frosty.
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When 27 year old machine gunner Chris Teske was in Germany with the US army he decided he couldn’t go to Iraq. After two tours in Afghanistan he’d been honorably discharged but they called him back to service to train young soldiers in the use of the 50 calibre machine gun. He had reached a point where, according to his wife Stephanie he had to stop. He couldn’t take responsibility for arming these young men since, as Stephanie says, "the racism against the Muslim culture that was all through the army there, really got to him." He decided to escape. He and his wife spent a couple of months researching desertion and finally decided to go to Canada.

"We wanted some place where the language wasn’t a problem and our family could drive to see us" says Stephanie. But they had to get out of Germany first.

Soldiers don’t have access to their passports. They have to use only their military ID to travel so the Teskes had to try and fly out of Germany minus a passport. Stephanie pled their case. "I cried a lot and told them we’d spent $3,000 on these tickets and my parents were waiting for us and frankly, we just got lucky." They flew to North Carolina -- their home state -- jumped in a car and drove straight north. They had help with places to stay and food from the war resisting community on both sides of the border until they reached Toronto, October 11th, two days after Canadian Thanksgiving.

Soon after they applied for protected refugee status which allows them to work and provides them with health insurance until the court hears their case, which could take up to a year.

Lee Zalosfky deserted from the US military during the Vietnam war. Now living in Toronto he’s the Coordinator of the War Resisters Support Campaign which is the only national support group for resisters. He believes his group will soon be helping many other deserters settle in Canada. Estimates for more troops heading to Iraq go as high as twenty thousand. More Stop Loss orders are being issued. This is when the military decides they need to keep soldiers even after they have finished their terms. If like Chris Teske you are on inactive ready reserve -- basically around for domestic disasters -- you could well find yourself heading to Iraq.

Most of the resisters are apolitical, according to Zalosfky working class guys who went into the service to learn a trade or help pay for college. Usually they feel they held up their end of the deal and now they want their money and their freedom.

Canadians may be welcoming but their legal system is less keen. Recently Jeffrey Hinzman and Brandon Hughey, who deserted and came to Canada, were refused refugee status by the Immigration and Refugee Board. They are appealing the decision to the Federal Court of Appeal and hope to appear there in Feb.

Their lawyers argued along the same lines as Lt. Ehren K Watada, when he was defending his choice, made last July, to be the first lieutenant in this war to desert: that the Iraq war is an illegal war of aggression and therefore they are no longer bound by their agreement with the military.

Court martial proceedings against Watada will start in Feb. The Canadian Immigration and Refugee Board doesn’t want to hear any arguments about the illegality of the Iraq war. Lee Zaslofsky believes that the Board is apprehensive about declaring a US war illegal and has concerns about the implications for other refugees if they give these deserters refugee status. If Hinzman and Hughey are denied status and try to return to the US they face felony charges and possibly up to five years in prison, so they will stay and the War Resistors Support Campaign will try and have their case heard before the Supreme Court.

With only 30 or so US military deserters publicly residing in Canada, providing them with refugee status would not be anywhere near the big deal it was during the Vietnam war when the draft pushed tens of thousands over the border. Unofficial estimates on the number of deserters living undocumented in Canada are only between one or two hundred.

Before her son died in Iraq, peace activist Cindy Sheehan begged him to flee to Canada. She was in Ottawa this summer asking the Canadian government to consider a provision to allow military deserters immigrant status automatically so they don’t have to apply individually. Although former Prime Minister Jean Chretien refused to join the US in the war on Iraq -- a stance which won him overwhelming support from Canadians -- the current PM Stephen Harper, is much more sympathetic to the US.

Lee Zaslofsky believes the only real hope in Ottawa for Stephanie and Chris Teske and others like them is a new government, which could happen as early as next spring.

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Idiot
Posted by: rsaxto on Jan 5, 2007 1:12 AM   
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Canada's PM Stephen Harper is a Bush Loving Idiot who Canadians need to dump soon.

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» RE: Idiot Posted by: babs
hoping that
Posted by: Laplandi on Jan 5, 2007 2:40 AM   
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another honorably discharged soldier gets called up -- Bush. Although in his case it would be "honorably" discharged...

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A Good warning to the young.
Posted by: colinmeister on Jan 5, 2007 3:20 AM   
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This story shows the young and impressionable just how untrue the military recruiting ads on TV and elsewhere are. Instead of "Signing on do do your duty for your country for a short time", and being rewarded by being given an education, by signing on, you are signing your life away to the U.S. government.

Canada and every other country have no obligation to the foolhardy who knowingly signed away their own freedom.

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» RE: A Good warning to the young. Posted by: famouspipeliner
volunteer service is reason
Posted by: Bearzerker on Jan 5, 2007 4:50 AM   
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during the Vietnam conflict, the people that we took in were being forced into service [Draft] and to fight in a war that was divisive nationally, this time around the people involved are part of the "NEW" all volunteer service...

The real problem is that the US Military has always treated their men and woman in uniform like second class citizens... Will the US Brass ever figure out the importance of the people in there ranks, sometimes a smaller service is better for many different reasons... money is rarely reason why peeps join up.

If you ask... they will come, but not under the contracts that US personal have currently, its just wrong...

As a Vet myself I'd never want to go into combat with a person who doesn't want to be there.

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What democracy????
Posted by: Conservasaurus on Jan 5, 2007 5:08 AM   
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“He couldn’t take responsibility for arming these young men since, as Stephanie says, "the racism against the Muslim culture that was all through the army there, really got to him."

The military isn’t a democracy - your in you go where assigned! .. regardless if you believe in the war or not, to create an environment that allows the military to desert makes no sense at all. One should research the requirements of military life in say England in the early 1900's and the commitment one made then.. This current situation is mild compared to what it used to be – but it’s the military ..you have a commitment, active and reserve..

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» RE: What democracy???? Posted by: famouspipeliner
They Swore to Protect US - Now Let's Protect Them
Posted by: badger on Jan 5, 2007 5:57 AM   
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I find it hopeful that more and more U.S. servicemen and -women are refusing to serve in a war that is based on lies and clearly does nothing to protect our country or its citizens. There are too many similarities between Bush's war against Iraq and Hitler's conquest of Europe, such as torture and thuggery inflicted upon the people of Iraq. I will not support troops who unthinkingly carry out such policies. I will support those troops who honor our Constitution by refusing to violate its principles either at home or abroad, even when it means refusing an order that is defined by violating the Constitution. I would trust my life to them because they are then supporting and upholding the Constitution! That is what it takes to be American, instead of blindly following Nazi-style orders. We need to support our troops who put themselves on the line by seeing this situation in Iraq for what it is, and form a network to help those who refuse "duty" to an illegal occupation of a country that had nothing to do with 9-11. Any ideas, Alterneters?

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» A hit Posted by: famouspipeliner
» RE: A hit Posted by: Conservasaurus
I Don't Pretend To Be An Expert On The Military...
Posted by: Nez46 on Jan 5, 2007 6:17 AM   
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But it would seem to me that it would be important to ensure that those who desert get little sympathy and even less protection. Removing the political partisanship from the issue for a moment, consider that an individual who enlists in the military typically does so as a reasonable and prudent person. Anyone who enlists must be aware that they could be called up to defend their country, irrespective of the motives and/or veracity of decision to go to war. When one enlists, they effectively surrender their citizen status to become a soldier and are now acting under an entirely different set of rules - and rightfully so, since the environments one may find oneself in could inflict sheer terror and an urge for self preservation above all other things.
If the military - and the civilians in those countries depending upon the military for protection - are overly sympathetic to those who desert because they "don't believe in the cause" or are simply tired of killing, they may find themselves without protection at a critical moment.
the bottom line is that if you enlist in the service, you are of sound mind and have essentially forfieted your own moral compass, allowing instead someone else to make those decisions for you. If you don't want to kill, don't enlist in the service, no matter how good the "benefits" might sound.

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As a Canadian, I apologize
Posted by: arborman on Jan 5, 2007 10:11 AM   
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Our government is a minority government - meaning they don't hold a majority of the seats in the House of Commons. It also means that the Prime Minister and his cronies were only elected with about 40% of the vote.

And they won't be elected again. They misjudged Afghanistan, misjudged the environment, and have pissed off many of their erstwhile supporters. So it's a temporary anomaly, not a long-term thread.

That said, the condition and circumstances of our embarrassment of a federal government don't mean much to some poor schmuck who has realized too late that Bush will happily spend soldiers' lives rather than admit error.

We have plenty of differences of opinion and position with the US, and it is a goddamn shame that the sanctity of human freedom - something your government shows little respect for these days - is not one of those differences. Our current leadership is purely of the neo-con variety, with little understanding of the world outside a conservative framework. The best we can hope is to marginalize them ASAP.

Until then, I'd recommend moving to Canada and lying low. Canada is a big place.

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» RE: As a Canadian, I apologize Posted by: WitchyNy
Another Canadian...
Posted by: Gisele on Jan 5, 2007 12:58 PM   
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and this one doesn't hold much hope for the future of Canada with Harper at the helm. And he will be the next majority government..we Canadians seem to work on the premise of "for every credibility gap, there's a gullibility fill."

There is a reason Harper kneels to Bush...check it out:

http://thetyee.ca/Mediacheck/2005/11/29/HarperBush/

and weep.

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» RE: Another Canadian... Posted by: famouspipeliner
Defending America is one thing
Posted by: Ian MacLeod on Jan 5, 2007 10:44 PM   
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Being used as George Bush's and Big Oil's private army is another thing entirely.

And before anyone asks, yes, I am a wartime veteran; so was Mom, Dad, so is my brother, so were my uncles, cousins, grandfather, etc.

Ian

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Blame the Liberals.
Posted by: Trapper on Jan 6, 2007 10:21 AM   
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Harper was not in power when the Immigration and Refugee Board, staffed entirely by Liberal appointee's, made the original decision not to accept these deserters as refugees. What makes you think that electing the Liberals, who were in power at the time, and rejected them as refugees, will somehow have a different result?

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Harper vs. the rest of us
Posted by: La Canadienne on Jan 6, 2007 9:59 PM   
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I have to say that as one who supports American war resistors, that neither our former CEO Martin nor our Neo-Con Harper were, or are willing to cross the maniacal and unbalanced Bush & Co. (besides Harper idolizes this demented administration). Things are changing though and we will soon enough be getting rid of Harper. Never mind the oftentimes gloomy predictions from the Tyee. Harper may strike it big in some Western Canadian areas, but he will never win it over all. Some of us will fight tooth and nail to keep any North Americans who do not wish to fight in the illegal Middle Eastern American wars safe. We have safe houses and jobs for those who have in good conscience fled the US. As has been noted, Canada is a very big country.

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Canada also at war: Americans need lessons in geopolitics
Posted by: Bobsays on Jan 8, 2007 6:04 AM   
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Canada is also fighting a war and is not a peace-loving, anti-war paradise like some 60s generation people like to think. It is killing and losing soldiers. The Canadian people see most runaway soldiers as deserters.

Canadians in the 60s were seriously split on Vietnam war draft dodgers: many Canadians thought they were cowards. A recent attempt in BC to erect a monument to 60s draft dodgers was stopped by Canadians.

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discharged soldiers being called?
Posted by: joeymuck on Jan 11, 2007 8:28 AM   
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I just heard a caller on the Diane Rehm show say that 2 friends of her husband, who were honorably discharged 20 years ago, have just been called to duty. Can this happen? Who is in "danger" of being called?

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