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Blatantly Boasting War Profiteers

By Sarah Anderson, AlterNet. Posted August 30, 2006.


Profiteering execs don't usually brag about their windfalls from the 'war on terror' -- unless they're talking to potential investors.
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Like Sen. George "macaca" Allen in a crowd of white Virginia Republicans and Rep. Katherine "God chooses our rulers" Harris with a reporter for a Baptist newspaper, defense executives tend to let their hair down in conversations with investment analysts.

In their glossy annual reports, military contractors are typically modest about how much loot they've gotten from a bloody and increasingly unpopular "War on Terror." But read the transcript of virtually any Q&A session with Wall Street and the truth comes out. While millions are suffering from the human and economic costs of the Iraq war, the violence has been very good for the bottom lines of military contractors and their top executives.

Black Hawk up

"Obviously, military was a big bang for us in the post-September 11 period," crowed George David, CEO of United Technologies, in a meeting with analysts last December. UTC makes Black Hawk helicopters and fighter jet engines, along with civilian aircraft and elevators. David went on to boast that UTC had beaten all its competitors because the military side of its business had more than made up for a 25 percent drop in commercial aerospace revenues.

Not surprisingly, David's personal rewards haven't been too shabby either. Since 9/11, he has been by far the highest paid defense executive, hauling in a total of more than $200 million. David and other top defense executives are highlighted in a new report, "Executive Excess," by the Institute for Policy Studies and United for a Fair Economy (PDF).

So confident is Mr. David of continued military largesse that he's biting the hand that feeds him. In a lawsuit that is the first of its kind, UTC is suing the Pentagon to block the public release of documents related to alleged quality control problems in its Black Hawk factories. The Bush administration, not exactly known for its openness, had agreed to make the documents public in response to a journalist's Freedom of Information Act request.

A pop for "Uncle Bucky"

"Obviously, we got a pop during the Iraq and Afghani thing," CEO Gerald Potthoff of Engineered Support Systems International candidly if indelicately told an investment publication last year. A big pop indeed. A series of war-related contracts for logistical services, some awarded on a no-bid basis, drove company earnings to record levels and set up executives for a lucrative sale of the company to another defense contractor, DRS Technologies, earlier this year.

Among the beneficiaries of that sale: President George W. Bush's uncle, William H. T. Bush, an ESSI director, who cleared $2.7 million in cash and stock. Known to the president as "Uncle Bucky," he claims he had nothing to do with the company's landing lucrative defense contracts.

The Securities and Exchange Commission is now investigating whether company officials went even further to jack up their war windfalls by manipulating the value of their stock options. In 2004, Potthoff's pay, including options gains, came to nearly $40 million.

Casualties = $$

Investors shouldn't trouble their little heads over the possibility of a U.S. troop withdrawal from Iraq, Health Net CEO Jay Gellert said in a conference call, since the military's own medical capacity will be stretched "into the foreseeable future" by the huge number of injured troops. That's reassuring for Health Net, which, thanks to Pentagon outsourcing, provides managed care services to as many as three million persons in the military and their families.

Another company spokesperson boasted of how war-time stress has turned its mental health services into a "fast-growing business."

The military's booming health care needs have sent CEO Gellert's personal fortunes soaring. He took home a total of more than $28 million during the past four years, compared to only $2.3 million during the four preceding years. That 1,134 percent increase is the biggest enjoyed by any defense executive.

Upbeat reports such as these have helped make Wall Street bullish on defense. The IPS/UFE study found that the top 34 military contractors had a 48 percent increase in their share prices between the end of 2000 and the end of 2005. By contrast, the S&P 500 dropped 5 percent during that period.

These stock gains have translated into big paydays for defense industry executives. The top 34 enjoyed a doubling of their compensation during the four years after 9/11.

Business grows. Stock price rises. CEO gets big reward. That's the American way, right?

Even during peacetime, there are strong arguments for broadening the definition of executive performance beyond the bottom line. Everyone, not just shareholders, has a real stake in how corporations are run and how executives are paid. Compensation should reward responsible leadership, including strong environmental performance and job creation, and not be so astronomical as to exacerbate the inequalities that undermine our democracy.

During times of war, there are even stronger arguments for pay restraint. For years, experts like management guru Peter Drucker have been advising against morale-killing pay gaps within companies. Imagine how it must feel to be risking your life every day on the front lines in Iraq, knowing that military contractors are getting grotesquely rich in the comfort of their executive suites? No wonder we're seeing the U.S. Marine Corps having to force their reservists back to the battlefield.

It's also no secret that defense executives tend to be well-connected politically. Why should we allow guys who play golf with top government officials to have personal profit motives for continuing the war -- or getting into new ones?

Congress could put an end to this by requiring that all defense contractors restrain executive pay to reasonable levels during wartime. This wouldn't need to be a fixed dollar cap. Procurement rules could instead deny defense contracts to companies that pay their top executives more than 20 times what their lowest-paid worker receives.

Current U.S. laws already deny government contracts to companies that discriminate against women and people of color. Why should we let our tax dollars subsidize war profiteering?

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Sarah Anderson is a Fellow of the Institute for Policy Studies and a coauthor of the report "Executive Excess 2006: Defense and Oil Executives Cash in on Conflict," published by IPS and United for a Fair Economy.

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Posted by: rsaxto on Aug 30, 2006 12:38 AM   
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Thanks for proving just how gross "defense" CEOs can get. If we do not have laws that cap CEO compensation to a reasonable multiple of what their average worker gets then we will indeed get the perpetual war the Bushies are pushing. The practical result of that bad scenario is the death of civilization and the death of a survivable environment.

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It's a party at those heights
Posted by: talkville on Aug 30, 2006 12:44 AM   
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"Bringing in the sheep, ..." Meanwhile, they bring in the pork and big time! Champagne for, well, not everybody!

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Blatantly Boasting War Profiteers
Posted by: Thundergod on Aug 30, 2006 12:51 AM   
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This should be a crime with the sentence of death for doing it!

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UK's third biggest industry.
Posted by: Mattyboy on Aug 30, 2006 3:39 AM   
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The UK's Three biggest industries. 1) Drugs 2) Curry 3) Arms.
Thats right, we spend the most money in europe on drugs, E's coke & smack. Our Curry restaurants believe it or not turn over the second largest annual revenue and the third, well, we make lots of Military Hardware that gets used in places like afghanistan to do what, thats right, protect the flow of opium back into our country, fucked up vicious circle if ever there was one.

So like the US, we rely on War, its the backbone of this country and it keeps the voters in work, fed and happy.

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» RE: UK's third biggest industry. Posted by: colinmeister
» RE: UK's third biggest industry. Posted by: Ken Duerksen
Michael Townes Watson
Posted by: michaeltwatson on Aug 30, 2006 3:44 AM   
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It is a sad commentary on our priorities when we allow the CEOs of the defense contractors and the government health insurers to reap such huge profits from a continuation of the war, whether one agrees with being in Iraq or not. It is even more indicative of our skewed priorities when we consider that most of the politicians who support the Iraq war also support new laws that would limit injured victims of medical malpractice to a total of $250,000 for a life destroyed. 48 Senators, in May, voted to limit even the most seriously injured medical negligence victim, or the family of a person killed by medical negligence, to $250,000 (which would actually leave the victim or his family with less than $75,000). Where is the justice in that? As many as 190,000 people are killed each year by hospital errors, and 1.5 million are injured by medication errors, yet the insurance companies, whose CEOs have salaries comparable to those of the defense industry, want to limit the injured victims to a pittance. These inconsistencies should not be tolerated. Michael Townes Watson, author of America's Tunnel Vision--How Insurance Companies' Propaganda Is Corrupting Medicine and Law. www.StopMedicalError.com.

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» RE: Michael Townes Watson Posted by: Lincoln fan
» RE: Lincoln, ideas. Posted by: Lauren
» RE: Lauren. Posted by: Lincoln fan
» The Lincoln Initiative Posted by: WhuThe?!?
» RE: The Lincoln Initiative Posted by: aussidawg
» correction Posted by: WhuThe?!?
» RE: The Lincoln Initiative Posted by: Shehova
» Excellent point, Shehova... Posted by: WhuThe?!?
» RE: The Lincoln Initiative Posted by: Lincoln fan
America has been at war since 1898 and profiting ever since.
Posted by: jreinhart1 on Aug 30, 2006 4:33 AM   
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Americans have been "had" since the Spanish American War in areas of the media, war profiteering by multinational banks and corporations and the Military-Industrial-Congressional complex. Our history books are filled with volumes of misinformation and mostly lies. The BBC has an excellent series about US corporatism called "The Century of Self" that starts with the end of WW I. The four parts are quite disturbing but only give a glimps on how pathetic the MSM is and how they have created a reality completely devoid of factual information. The lies we despise are the truths that we live by and stand firm on.

The US runs a new form of empire for the advantage of corporatism, a way of business that was the morphing of capitalism into giant corporations at the end of the 19th century with huge trusts of business oligarchies in banking, oil, sugar, foods... The reason that the US has several hundred military bases with standing armies in well over 100 countries is for these corporations, not to keep Americans free from tyranny and agression, but to keep us fat and happy, as Herbert Hover said to Edward Bernaise, to make the public into happiness machines of consumption.

We have been sheparded by profiteers that believe that their interests are in the best interests of the American people. Tell’em what they want to hear is the motto of almost every thing in the US anymore. Packaged products as a result of focus groups and are little more than reinforcement for good behavior. People “choose” the products which they are nothing more than a target market for including our “leadership”. Many Americans are living a life of slogans, cliches and talking points that have been created just for them. From TV ads for children to political ads for voters, it’s much all the same.

War on terror:
http://www.juancole.com/2005/08/
fisking-war-on-terror-once-upon-time.html

Moyers on the NSA (made in 1987)
http://video.google.com/
videoplay?docid=2397496401234089687&q=secret

Tired of Being Lied to? Modern History You Can't Afford to Ignore - a 3-Part Series
http://www.buzzflash.com/farrell/05/11/far05001.html
http://www.buzzflash.com/farrell/05/11/far05002.html
http://www.buzzflash.com/farrell/05/12/far05003.html

BBCs - Century of Self
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article12642.htm
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article12646.htm
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article12669.htm
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article12698.htm

Catherine Austin Fitts, a former Inspector General at HUD, has an excellent series on tapeworm economics being practiced at at www.solari.com/realdeal.htm

Some good books on our history of over and covert operations for profit are:
John Perkins' "Confessions of and Economic Hit Man"
Stephen Kinzer's "Overthrow"
Ralph McGehee's "Deadly Deceits"
Zbigniew Brzesinski's "The Grand Chess Board" sums up our national arrogance in the creating of a new world order based upon US domination. This man is worth looking up as well as the Council on Foreign Relations which has been the cornerstone for creating groups that profit using political, economic, covert and overt wars.

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Corporations run amok
Posted by: Lincoln fan on Aug 30, 2006 6:01 AM   
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Compensation should reward responsible leadership, including strong environmental performance and job creation

This is true but it won't happen until our government puts it into law. And it won't become law until the people, not the corporate establishment, control the government. The only thing corporate leadership is responsible for is short term maximum profit.

There are only two ways to control corporations.One is by government law and two is boycott by the customers. It is very inefficient to control corporations one at a time with boycotts. And government control in the US is impossible while the corporate establishment owns both parties. Consequently corporations are out of control.

Neither stockholders nor mangers can control corporations. If stockholders successfully demand corporate reform that affects the return on investment appreciably they will then sell that stock and invest in another corporation with a better return. Managers can't act responsibly for the same reason. Every corporation in the world is in competition with every other corporation for a high return on investment. This creates an almost impossible situation. Every corporation has to be above average or at least convince investors that they have that potential.

Current U.S. laws already deny government contracts to companies that discriminate against women and people of color.

This proves two things first that government can control corporations and that people can take control of the government. Government control wasn't initiated by the government but by grassroots movements that forced the government to act. Corporations fought these laws but the people are stronger than the corporations.

Look into The Lincoln Initiative, a grassroots movement not an organization. Together we can make "government of the people, by the people, and for the people" a reality in the US. Time is short.
Bob Reichenbach
Director, The Lincoln Initiative.

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» the Lincoln Initiative Posted by: WhuThe?!?
War Profiteering at the expense of American boys/girls blood & lives.....
Posted by: Prophit on Aug 30, 2006 6:41 AM   
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Used to be TREASON AND WAS A DEATH PENALTY OFFENSE. I say when we KICK OUT ALL INCUMBANTS REGARDLESS OF PARTY, that the New Congress pass a law that makes PROFITEERING a death penalty offense and then a guy like this WHO has come out in public will be the first charged and hung under the new laws. ITS TIME TO TAKE OUR COUNTRY BACK AND GET RID OF THE SOCIOPATHS WHO ARE RUNNING OUR CORPORATIONS AND GOVERNMENT. ITS JUST BLOODY DAMN TIME.

These children of ours who are dying and being maimed for profits were our future generations and they are being wiped out. I am sick and tired of the lies, there are thousands more who are dead and not reported. Dover works 24/7 daily processing the coffins and that is why we aren't allowed to see any of it. The dead from this war is in the upper thousands (over 9,000) and rising.

These CEO'S should be charged for every dead soldier and serve time or hang for the full number who have died as a result of their greed and corruption along with the government counterparts. ITS TIME.

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» I'm so afraid you are right Posted by: WhuThe?!?
» RE: I'm so afraid you are right Posted by: aussidawg
Just another in the long list of reasons to say,
Posted by: WhuThe?!? on Aug 30, 2006 7:55 AM   
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God bless America (and nobody else!)!

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So, are we in 1984 yet?
Posted by: Lauren on Aug 30, 2006 8:47 AM   
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If you recall the book, I always thought it's location was set in London. How did it get like that here in California? Cheney's 1984 war machine won't last. I'm not sending my son to fight in his stupid wars.

There will be another revolution. We will go sunshiny green. How is that for a new direction?

World peace? Yeah, that's an idea.

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Analyst
Posted by: Analyst on Aug 30, 2006 9:13 AM   
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A rarely reported provision in the new pension bill Bush just signed gives defense contractors 7 years to fully fund their pension plans. It's obvious they need the time since business is so bad.

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» RE: Analyst Posted by: zipper696
Coastal Post Article
Posted by: rwa on Aug 30, 2006 9:31 AM   
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The Assault on Iraqi Agriculture ---
U.S. Agribusiness Targets the Fertile Crescent
By Daniel Stone

August 2006
Blessed with abundant fertile land and water, Iraq, the cradle of civilization, the center of the Fertile Crescent of ancient Mesopotamia, the birthplace of agriculture 13 centuries ago, has, in the past, not only been able to feed itself, but to supply other areas of the world with its bountiful harvest of grains, pulses, dates and vegetables.
How unfortunate that now these proud people are receiving most of their food as "aid." Over the past 20 years, due to the Iraq-Iran war, the two U.S. Gulf "wars," and the brutal, illegal, U.S.-driven sanctions over 13 years, during both Republican and Democratic administrations, Iraq's agricultural sector has been devastated.


20 Years of Bombing, Sanctions, Oil-for-Food, and Depleted Uranium

In 1991, the U.S. deliberately bombed Iraq's civilian infrastructure of water purification and electrical plants, and then prevented Iraq from rebuilding same by imposing sanctions (more accurately a "military blockade" - an act of war). In both 1991 and 2003, "US bombing raids targeted cattle feed lots, poultry farms, fertilizer warehouses, pumping stations, irrigation systems, fuel depots and pesticide factories ---the very infrastructure of Iraqi agriculture." It will take years to restore these operations under good conditions.

Under the U.S.-driven sanctions' rubric of "dual use," the most common and necessary materials were blocked from entering Iraq. For instance, some parts for irrigation systems were banned, thus preventing the repair and use of irrigation. Consequently, only half the irrigable southern part of Iraq is now irrigated and properly utilized. Similarly, parts and materials for water-purification systems were banned by the U.S., resulting in widespread disease and death, particularly among children under age five. The lack of the most basic medicines during the years of blockade compounded the deaths, estimated as high as two million, mostly children. The hundreds of tons of depleted uranium the U.S. illegally expended in weapons' discharges in Iraq both in 1991 and in 2003 account for many anomalous birth defects and soil contamination. Our aerial bombing of, and sanctions on, Iraq over the past 15 years are perhaps the world's most blatant example of state terrorism in recent history. Two heads of the Oil-For-Food ("OFF") Program --- Denis Halliday and Hans von Sponek --- quit in disgust, refusing to be a part of what they saw as a genocidal process of slowing murdering Iraqi civilians by sanctions.


The Oil-For-Food Program --- Agribusiness Disguised as Aid

As the OFF Program related to Iraqi agriculture, it was a severe disincentive to farmers. Except in the northern region, the OFF Program was prohibited from purchasing locally-produced food. The OFF Program was characterized by some critics as a scheme to guarantee oil supplies to the west, and to create food dependency in Iraq. Now over half of Iraq's food is imported, and a significant part of the population is dependent upon government-financed food rations for survival.


U.S. Policies --- Fox Put in Charge of the Chicken Coop

As Heather Gray has pointed out, "Wars are invariably a pretext for economic expansion and opportunities for corporate greed." What better target for U.S. agribusiness than a U.S.-occupied country such as Iraq? Such a country would be powerless to oppose the re-writing of its laws, and the conversion of its sovereignty to becoming just a vassal state, a colony, a breadbasket for the "Homeland." No better evidence of this was the installation in April 2003 of Daniel Amstutz, former Cargill Corporation executive, to oversee the "rehabilitization" of agriculture in Iraq. ...

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I know this won't be popular
Posted by: bookwoman on Aug 30, 2006 9:58 AM   
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The people at United Technologies have been making armaments for generations. Pratt & Whitney makes airplanes as does Hamilton Standard. Sikorski makes helicopters and the people at Norden in Stratford, Connecticut invented a bomb site which helped win World War II. In peacetime, these people make planes and helicopters and other items which contribute to our economy and provide jobs and very good salaries and benefits for their workers. I don't support this war in Iraq, and I never did. However, I don't think the people at United deserve to be rolled into the pile with the newcomers who jumped into providing armaments just to make a buck and supply our people, on the front lines, with shoddy goods and safety vests which don't stop anything.

I would also ask those of you who are so vocal about UTX, how long it took you to stand against the war. George Bush told us for six months before he attacked Iraq that he was going to do it. Where were your complaints then.

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Whats the big deal?
Posted by: tashi on Aug 30, 2006 10:08 AM   
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I don't understand such outcry over the defence industry's CEO compensation.
Derrick Jackson in today's Boston Globe has an article on the same issue. He makes a comparison between CEO compensation (avg $7.7 million) and a private in the army (avg salary $28K).
Nobody put a gun against these kids to join the army. They go in the army either they have spent most of their lives playing violent video games, and want to live up the experience in real life. Or they didn't work hard in school to get into College. And a lot them are just driven by "patriotism".
Well you make stupid choice, you have to live with it. Its not as if we have a draft!
As for the CEOs making money of the war. Who would support the war if there wasn't any money to be made?
And lastly, if majority of Americans didn't support these wars (and there have been at least 1 or 2 low/high intensity wars since WWII every decade), then why do they keep on electing the same political parties again and again.
So whats the big deal?

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Making money off of other's misfortunes is immoral
Posted by: redjenny on Aug 30, 2006 10:31 AM   
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Especially this: http://www.rebuild-iraq-expo.com/

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» That is immoral Posted by: WhatNow?
the costs
Posted by: hangman on Aug 30, 2006 11:30 AM   
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The costs of profiteering off of the deaths of countless number of innocent souls is going to come back on the warmongers who use excuses of fighting for democracy etc.

In this modern day world , skills of diplomacy(both sides are educated enough to know what that means) could have saved countless lives.
But no, the greedy buggers with their cold hearts and calculated gambles and manipulation of peoples religious beleifs , got the better of them. power trippers.
The last ones standing will having Nothing to be proud of. For they will be standing with pockets overflowing with cash, ontop of the graves they created on purpose.
is that capitalism for ya?
who cares how many lives it costs, right?
So much for America being the land of the free.

If the profiteers think the only way to make money is to build paths of death and destruction, then those paths lead right back to them.

on these paths, America is doomed by the profiteers, unless something is done to curtail their agenda of War and Terror.

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My, How Times Have Changed!
Posted by: sunlakedude on Aug 30, 2006 12:17 PM   
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In the first half of the 20th century most people believed that it was a bad thing for corporations and the executives that led them to grow rich from war. But now we have an entire administration that not only sees nothing wrong with war-profiteering, they are actually encouraging it and are a part of it. Dick Cheney's Halliburton is a prime example. At some point greed became okay, in fact, encouraged. I'm 53 y/o. When did that happen?

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Sandra
Posted by: samoffat on Aug 30, 2006 1:30 PM   
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In WW2, my father worked as a civil servant for the FederalRenegotiation Board in Washington. It required equal discussion ( government & business)of government contracts, in an attempt, I assume, to avoid war profiteering. I would guess its meetings' records were public. He was a business man and a republican (of the Eisenhower variety) and would be horrified at the excess profits and CEO greed that now prevails.( He also would no longer be a republican, I am quite sure). Has there ever been recent talk of a similar rein on profiteering? Silly question...

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Money, Money and More Money!
Posted by: sofla100 on Aug 30, 2006 2:44 PM   
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You would think at least in the general society people would be somewhat ashamed to boast of profits from making weapons and machines that kill people? It just goes to show you how our society has degenerated. The only thing that counts now is money. Money, money, and more money. What ever happend to the idealism of the 60's? And hear I tried to defend the USA to some European friends who claimed recently that the only thing Americans were interested in was money. Money, money and more money. What a disgrace.

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War For Sale
Posted by: hotlipsin61 on Aug 30, 2006 3:54 PM   
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You have to give defense companies credit for being such super salespeople. These companies are so good at selling us war they can sell caseloads of herring to the Norwegians.
This article is proof that war is profitable, so why call for an end to it? Never mind the destroyed countries, wrecked lives and needless casualties. And in the seemingly never-ending "War on Terror", defense companies will earn potential billions in worldwide sales.
An Iraqi man gets his legs blown off by a cluster bomb made in Minnesota? Hey, the "product" worked. Spy planes made in Palmdale, California snooping around the Horn of Africa? Talk about invasion of privacy. A home in Afghanistan was blown up by a Tomahawk missile made in Arizona? Wow, that's the rockets' red glare, whose bombs are bursting in air at work.
Remember a line from "Reds" when John Reed was asked why we fight and his answer was profits. All it takes for war is to invent a reason, (We're looking for WMDs-"Remember the Maine!") lie about it ("they have mobile weapons labs") and behind the soldiers will come the arms makers who can smell profits from their boardrooms. Plus you may acquire foreign companies in the conquered lands in the process-and become future politicians, perhaps.
It makes a person wonder how these death merchants can sleep at night knowing their products kill people.

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» RE: War For Sale...one day my friend Posted by: Captainmagic
This is what war is about
Posted by: jolo on Aug 30, 2006 4:26 PM   
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I think it would be a great idea to post all those who are profiting on the back of our soldiers courage, pain and death. Profiting for the misery that occurs to the families of our soldiers. Remember soldiers are being forced to re-enlist.
These low lives who make fortunes while our nations debt increases geometrically. They looby for increases for their pork, while loans and funds for education get canceled for budget reasons.

It is also important to remember that the Bush family fortune was made by George W's Granfather, Prescott Bush, made the family fortune through war. Although Prescott was the Director of were director of Union Banking Corp. when it was raided by Federal agents in 1942, under the Trading With the Enemy Act, for its dealings on behalf of Nazi Germany. President Roosevelt took control of some assests of Prescott Bush's. The Bush fortune was made on their support of the Nazi's !! Understand the seriousness off this. MORE than a Nazi sympathiser, but one who helped get the Nazi's in power and helped channel money that was stolen from Concentration camp victims to where they would be hiding out, usually in South America.

But a list of these vermin would be great to maintain on a web site (I would volunteer). Their names, position and contact information. If somehas their home contact information that should be added as well. Then we sould contact these people and to remind them of their Anti-American ways and how the more misery they create, the more oney they make. They do create and initiate misery by their heavy lobbying and PAC money where they buy Congressman and an Administration.

A great movie to watch is "Why We Fight". When it starts with General and President Dwight D Eisenhower's warning of the pernicious and growing influence of what he called the "military-industrial complex." Scary how visionary that was.
Click for movie info

The reason for the Iraq occupation is purely for control of their oil. It is not a "war", it is a occupation, a occupation of a soverign nation by the U.S. The war, as said by Bush, has virtually nothing to do with terrorism and 9/11, although the Rovian propaganda has confused enough Americans who confuse themselves. Remember WMD ??

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The Power of Nightmares
Posted by: lively56 on Aug 30, 2006 5:32 PM   
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I have something here that I think everyone should definitely see if you haven't seen it yet. It is a riveting documentary produced by the BBC. www.oneplanetonenation.com
The title is, The Power of Nightmares The Phantom Victory.

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Profit for Blood
Posted by: albrechtkrausse on Aug 30, 2006 6:45 PM   
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Like the newspapers and tv news who love to exploit death for profit. They make amazing profit and are gleeful for any wars, or better yet, some tragic event on our shores like Katrina (which they spun and made worse with the over-the-top reports of child-rape, mass suicide, crazed lootings---of course implied that "the coloured are running amok".) In many ways the media and movie companies are worse than these private security firms and arms contractors. At least, everyso often, they actually get involved in the wars and can get killed but these journalists and media tycoons just love to photograph some poor child starving to death (and won't feed her even though they are there), put 'news' stories all of the minorities who are committing crime (notice never the white perp you see on the news), and send reporters into war zones for their economic gain. Shameful.

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Given Up Hope
Posted by: tashi on Aug 30, 2006 8:40 PM   
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Earlier in the summer I participated in a protest against a major company here in Boston area. The protest was in solidarity with the workers, mostly working at minimum wage.
This company is going through a mega-merger, and as part of the merger, is closing down factories around MA, even though it had promised to keep its manufacturing operations running here earlier.
Not only that the workers will be losing there jobs, they won't be given any lay-off benefits however meager. The CEO of the company on the other hand, is getting hundreds of millions of dollars for this successful merger.
So I went to the protest against the policy of th company, which was organized by a local labor rights group.
Although there are at least a 1000 workers who will be getting affected by the factory closure, only a handful bothered to show up at this rally.
Most of the people at this rally were people like me who are not directly affected by this merger. Due to the lack of interest/motivation of the workers themselves, the rally wasn't successful at all. And I know the guys who organized this rally. They worked very hard but simply couldn't get the workers out in the street.
So what did I take from this experience? There is no hope for this country. People simply don't care regardless of how pathetic and obscene the situation could get.
Same goes for the war. People may oppose it. But at the end of the day, they would rather sit at home to watch stupid reality shows then actually go out and vote, or take any civic interest in the society.

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So many more profiteers...
Posted by: thosefuckingbastards on Aug 30, 2006 10:21 PM   
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You forgot these robbers of the public's pocketbooks:

http://www.logisticshealth.com

The War on Terror has made the Hummer driving pompous leader of this thievery ring a fortune.

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Stay Tuned
Posted by: drewdat on Aug 31, 2006 10:55 AM   
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There is a moving coming out that exposes war profiteering....
Click here

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