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Punished for Pacifism

Democracy Now!. Posted March 18, 2006.


News that the FBI may have infiltrated anti-war groups raises deep concerns about the extent of the government's domestic surveillance programs.
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[Editor's Note: This is an edited transcript of a segment of Democracy Now!, which aired on Wednesday, March 15.]

Amy Goodman: Newly released files show the FBI has been monitoring and possibly infiltrating a Pittsburgh peace group because of its opposition to the war in Iraq.

On Tuesday, the American Civil Liberties Union released a series of once secret FBI files that show the FBI's Joint Terrorism Task Force conducted a secret investigation into the activities of the Thomas Merton Center beginning as early as November 2002, and continuing up until at least last March.

According to the ACLU these documents are the first to show conclusively that the rationale for FBI targeting is the group's opposition to the war.

One memo describes the Merton Center as a "left-wing organization advocating, among many political causes, pacifism." It notes that the center hands out leaflets on a daily basis opposing the war in Iraq.

The FBI files also notes that one of the peace activists monitored handling out fliers "appeared to be of Middle Easter descent."

Another file on the peace center is titled "International Terrorism Matters" and it includes information on a series of anti-war rallies taking place in Pittsburgh and around the country.

The documents raise new questions about the extent of the government's domestic surveillance operations. On Monday Democratic Senator Russell Feingold introduced a resolution to censure President Bush for illegally ordering the National Security Agency to conduct warrantless domestic surveillance.

The White House has insisted the NSA surveillance is targeted solely at members of Al Qaeda and affiliates. But civil liberties groups fears that the government is also spying on political activists and critics of the government.

In December, NBC News revealed the existence of a secret Pentagon database to track intelligence gathered inside the United States including information on anti-war protests and rallies particularly actions targeting military recruiting.

Here in New York, the local chapter of the American Civil Liberties Union filed Freedom of Information requests on Tuesday on behalf of itself and fourteen of New York's most prominent political and religious groups to determine whether the FBI is spying on them as well.

In a minute we will be joined by Donna Lieberman, executive director of the New York Civil Liberties Union. But first we go to Pittsburgh to speak with Tim Vining, the former head of the Thomas Merton Center. He is personally named in the FBI spy files on the group. Can you talk about what you understand these files say, exactly?

Tim Vining: Well, the activity that we were cited for was simply leafleting in Market Square. We went out -- it was Buy Nothing Day, the day after Thanksgiving on November of 2002 -- and we went out just simply to hand out leaflets about a variety of issues -- transit advocacy, antiwar, global justice -- and for that, we were targeted. Also, what's really distressing to me, Amy, is that the Thomas Merton Center has worked very hard to build relationships with members of the local Muslim community, especially after 9/11, as they were targeted and scapegoated. And because of that, because we tried to build relationships that cross the lines of religion that are used to divide people, because of that, we were spied on by our government. Now, at a time when religious misunderstandings and differences lead to so much terrorism and violence in the world today, you would think our government would applaud us for seeking peace and trying to understand one another. Instead, they spied on us.

AG: Tim Vining, who was Thomas Merton?

TV: Thomas Merton was a monk, a Trappist monk who spoke out during the Vietnam War in favor of peace, and he was a man who was extremely consistent. He thought that if we had the value of peace and we were truly peacekeepers and peacemakers, that we had to put our money where our mouth is. So he dedicated his life and his writing, from the monastery, speaking for peace.

AG: So, what are your plans? And do you know, for example, who they were referring to when they say that someone was handing out fliers who was of Mid-Eastern decent.

TV: Well, one thing we're not going to allow the F.B.I. to do is to have us spy on one another and not trust one another. You know, so we're not even trying to guess. The fact is the person they identified simply, quote, "looked Middle Eastern." There was no evidence that any of us, that person or any of us, were advocating any sort of violence. So I'm not quite sure. I know we have many members of the Thomas Merton Center who are Muslim, and we're proud to have them as members and to stand with them.


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My question is why isn't everyone upset about the pentagon spying?
Posted by: HawkSpirit on Mar 18, 2006 12:42 AM   
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At the same time the Bush wiretap issue came to light, there was also an announcment that the Pentagon was spying on activists groups around the country. How do they get their information? Where they the ones who sent agents to question the Quakers? Why is no one is even upset about this and it is just spying on Americans who oppose Bush&Co.

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» Why isn't everyone upset? Posted by: Lauren
» RE: HawkSpirit Posted by: AlienSlave
How Bad Must It Be Before dick & Jane Awaken?
Posted by: Nez46 on Mar 18, 2006 4:47 AM   
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What has our country disintegrated into? I'm ashamed to call myself an American and I am repulsed at the behavior of many of my fellow citizen for not only allowing our government to reach such a state of horrific fascism but for actively creating the favorable climate for the spread of fascist behavior.
Sadly, until we hold both the media and our political punks accountable for the devastation they are wreaking on humankind through the spread of vile propaganda and disinformation, we will continue speeding down the tracks on this runaway freight train ride to hell.

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WHAT'S SO NEW ABOUT THIS?
Posted by: AlienSlave on Mar 18, 2006 5:12 AM   
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I just don’t understand all of the excitement about this. It’s common knowledge to anyone who has ever had the courage to speak out in truth against any type of corrupt authority. I found this out in the fifth grade the day I called the principal an ignorant prick. People your government has had all of you on the list from the day you where born if your grandparents where considered scoundrels to the state so are you. Ask any Native Americans, African Americans, Asian Americans, Irish Americans, or any group of more than six people who gather together into cells. Would it surprise you to also know it’s not only your government that keeps you under surveillance and records of your coming in and going out? There are a lot of factions in the country that perceive threats in every place. Take some pride in who you are and be the person that you are. If you want a new hobby find out what the data dicks are afraid of and find a way to feed them their night mare.
AlienSlave

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» Just stand up to them Posted by: Lauren
» Does it Matter if it's Not New? Posted by: decembrist
the pittsburgh group
Posted by: janiepoe on Mar 18, 2006 6:59 AM   
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i went and spent a day with these wonderful people in pittsburgh for international womens day..they are so kind and concern ,very educated. i fall on the floor laughing that our fbi would say anything bad about this group of awesome,caring people.they are the finest of americas citszens. why is the fbi using our money to combat our most decent citszens instead of THEIR parnoida proganda on terrorist? THIS PROVES THAT ALL THIS WHOy in the pat act on terrorist is really just naming decent upright citszens!! where is our laws or dems for protection???? this is very concerning to me and should be to all!!!

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» RE: the pittsburgh group Posted by: AlienSlave
They're all at home...
Posted by: chasaturn on Mar 18, 2006 9:11 AM   
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...sweating over their checkbooks and trying to figure how to avoid taxes (which are also illegal). Their mortgage is delinquent, gas costs more than jewelry, the baby's sick and there isn't any insurance, the preacher screams at them that "queers' are after their children and Godless liberals and crazed A-rabs are trying to destroy the US and their way of life... in other words, they're sort of consumed with fear - too busy to see what's really happening - that the fear is managed, most effectively, by the minions of the vile slime we are supposed to call the "leader of the free world". Yes, that bunch. Time for quick trials and group hangings.

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Surely you jest !
Posted by: Doubtom on Mar 18, 2006 11:03 AM   
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Infiltration by the FBI is news???? Since when has the FBI been anything but the secret police for the power structure, regardless of which party is in power?

Beware any nation which has a need for such secrecy. What I find most disgusting, is that we actually have an organization called the Secret Service,in this, the "freest nation in the world"

What a crock of bullshit that is! Someone needs to redefine the term 'freest nation'. And it damn sure isn't free when it's operatives pay more attention to foreign influence than it does to its own citizens.
And it's not free when "money" is seen as free speech; and it's not free when Corporations get "head of the line privileges" to speak to our Representatives/Senators.

And it's not free when Our Senate is referred to as the "Millionaires Club". etc.etc.etc......

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What's new about this?
Posted by: jeffrey7 on Mar 18, 2006 11:09 AM   
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As an anti-war protestor from the 60's and 70's I see nothing new here. COILTELPRO never shut down. Every group that has formed to either take up the slack in the Govt,or stand up for their People have had 'plants' put into their midsts. Sometimes,as in the case with the KKK, the feds actually participated in the killings. Leonard Peltier is still in prison for a crime he didn't commit. He stood up for his People and the Feds along with their inside instigators
'sacrificed' two almost rookie agents,trumped up a case and charged Leonard for the deed. The same was done to the Black Panther Party for Self-Preservation. The Civil Rights Movement,Berkely Free Speech Movement, Students for a Democratic Society, The Hog Farm, The Rainbow Family the
list is long and growing.
These acts of history,and the contemporary conterparts are
the actions of the Tyrants. This must be ended. We are not a Free Society as long as we allow uncontrolled Govt to act on wish and whim. 80 million chained into low income,Homeland Security turning everyone in this Country that disagrees with the System a 'threat' is totalitarian aggression against your own citizens. Liberty and Freedom 'Demand' these acts and others be stopped. It is OUR RIGHT TO BE FREE!!!!

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» What's new? I'll tell you... Posted by: decembrist
» RE: What's new? I'll tell you... Posted by: AlienSlave
» RE: What's new? I'll tell you... Posted by: decembrist
» RE: What's new? I'll tell you... Posted by: AlienSlave
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Impeachable Offences
Posted by: fanny666 on Mar 18, 2006 4:41 PM   
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Read Article 2 Paragraph 2 of Nixon's Letters of Impeachment.

Pass it on! Bring it up in letters to the editor and letters to politicians!

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Smells like Belarus - Oppression Communist style
Posted by: sln70 on Mar 18, 2006 4:49 PM   
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I'm going to write out the first paragraph of this week's MacLeans (canadian political) Magazine, and tell me if it scares you:

"On March 19, the citizens of Belarus will vote to elect a president. Alexander Lukashenko, the incumbent, has been working diligently to prepare. In the last week of February he sent commandos to carry out a wave of arrests against human-rights activists and independent election monitors. On March 3, Alexander Kozulin, an opposition candidate was beaten as he tried to register for a party conference Lukashenko was addressing. Reporters watching were beaten, too. Four days later, a supporter on the principal opposition candidate, Alexander Milinkevich, was arrested and another heavily fined for participating in unauthorized campaign events. Two days after that, the deputy director of Milinkevich's campaign was jailed. he won't be realeased until after the election. REporters who sought comment from the railroaded pol were, again, beaten." - Paul Wells (emphasis mine)

We think it can't happen in North America. We think 'they're different." That is a ridiculous and hopeful illusion. "We ARE the other people, we are the other people, we are the other people, you're the other people too" (Marley)

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Does history always repeat itself...?
Posted by: waves999 on Mar 19, 2006 4:10 AM   
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... turned out to be a total hype, entire harassment -- entrapment by the F.B.I., where it was revealed that F.B.I. agents had infiltrated the Panthers and the people behind any ideas of a plot to blow up anything were all government agents.

I will always remember the then unimaginable, shock, 1970’s television images of the brave Black Panther Party (for Self-Defence) marching down the street in Oakland with shotguns slung over their shoulders! Shotguns no less.! The image screamed, come and get us you bastards -- if you’ve got the balls! And the G’umint eventually did. Ultimately the Panther Party, although losing many of its leaders like Huey Newton, Bobby Seal, Eldridge Cleaver et all, went on to achieve many positive social advances in the black community mostly through their remaining women members. The history of their struggle is a good read. Does history always repeat itself...??!

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I Love My Country, but FEAR my Government
Posted by: Taxesux on Mar 19, 2006 7:14 AM   
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The USA has been on the road to Empire for over 100 years. Government run schools are the means by which the American people have been dumbed down to the point that most do not recognize that our government is out of control. Taxes, regulations and special privledges have destroyed what was the most prosperous country in the world. With over 8 Trillion in Federal debt, we will end up as a 3rd world nation before long. I do love my Country, but writing this comment could very well make me an enemy of the state, so I FEAR my government.

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FEAR is just an illusion
Posted by: waves999 on Mar 19, 2006 9:03 AM   
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That's an incredibly sad state of affairs, fearing your own elected government. But that's exactly what they want, isn't it?... so they can do whatever they want... whenever they want... to whomever they want. In a true democracy it's the Government who should fear the people. Because the people can remove that government whenever they want. Right...? Right...?! Or not right. Your choice. In any case, FEAR is just an illusion, an acronym for it being Future Events Appearing Real. Or is it Fuck Everything And Run!?

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How's this for Homeland Security
Posted by: jeffrey7 on Mar 19, 2006 10:55 AM   
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I live in a town where a police dept is unheard of. Have'nt had one for 95 years. How can we be this way? Simple, we all have a strong case of 'Give a Damn'.
Now don't get me wrong,we're not all relatives nor do we all see things eye to eye. But we care about our Town. We may not even know everyone's name,but we damn sure know everyone car.We have a kind of 'village wave' we send out to every passerby in town. You don't wave back....you're probably not from here,and everyone is watching you.
We're not all up in eachother's business either.We just care enough about eachother's property that we look out the windows and turn on porch lights when we hear strange stuff,and we let them know about it.
So what are we left with? A village where you can stand in the road and have a half an hour conversation with your neighbor. A place where your kids can play without worry. A place where you can take a walk a modnight and feel as safe as if you were in your mother's arms. A place where Peace,Freedom and Liberty exsist as a way of life for everyone.
So can this kind of life be expanded beyond my little town to all the nation? Sure. First you have to stop believing in what the mass media and the Govt says about anything. Then start talking to everyone around you.You'd be surprized how many folks feel like you. Care about the same things as you.
Want the same as you. That's the way you start a Movement
and get our Country back.

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Police Bullies Merton Center Again
Posted by: hipsterdufus on Mar 19, 2006 1:27 PM   
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I was at yesterday's peace march in Pittsburgh sponsored by the Thomas Merton Center. It was astonishing to me the number of police out in full riot gear at the event. We peacefully marched to a local recruiting station and chanted "Shut it down" - the police were two rows deep, billy clubs in hand, and a chopper in the air. There were also agents on a nearby roof w/ binoculars and notepads.

I wouldn't have believed it if I hadn't been there myself yesterday.

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Sorry, folks.
Posted by: gonzoskismet on Mar 19, 2006 2:59 PM   
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Not to disillusion anyone involved in the resistance but it's always been this way. Of course the FBI is going to be at your protests. Of course, the police are going to be out in force. Study the history of dissent in America. Read the Biography of Mother Jones. Check out what happened to Coxs Army when they marched on Washington or the Veterans March on Washington during the Depression. You are saying the one word that those that hold power in this country do not want to hear and that word is 'NO!'
Now, get this straight once and for all before you commit yourselves to this. YOU are the only ones upholding the Constitution. THEY could give a shit less about your rights.
THEY will bust you in the head with a billy club, tear gas you, drag you off to jail and flush your Constitutional rights straight down the toilet in the blink of an eye if you threaten their hold upon power and money. I know. I've had ALL of these things done to me in my life.
Next, get this straight. YOU are America. Not that mess of so called Senators and Representatives that sit up there in Washington, D.C. and supposedly carry out the dictates of the Constitution. You won't see them taking the kind of risks you have to take in the streets to preserve your democracy. Hell, they won't even serve in the military to fight the wars they start.
And, last but not least, know this. Unfortunately, it is up to you, the people, to preserve the Heart and Soul of the nation you so dearly love and profess to believing in it's founding principles. You will get no support from Wahington, D.C. where they wouldn't know patriotism if it bit them on the ass.
I had hoped that we'd got this settled 30 years ago. But evil never sleeps. So, here we are back again, on the pavements of America. They hated us in the Sixties not so much for the long hair and the drugs as for the fact that we told them the one thing they didn't want to hear: 'NO'.
Please, my brothers and sisters out there in America, keep this one word alive, regardless of the pain we must suffer again. Because they will only listen to a massive chorus of voices shouting the same word. NO, NO NO!

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» RE: Sorry, folks. Posted by: smuney
If I were a US citizen......
Posted by: Gypsy900 on Mar 19, 2006 7:15 PM   
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...I'd be looking at the restrictions against citizens in China. There doesn't seem to be that much difference in the government outlook.

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See V for vendetta
Posted by: vivachavez on Mar 19, 2006 8:10 PM   
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I urge all appalled by this gross intrusion on the ability of American citizens to freely assemble to go see the new film "V for Vendetta." It portrays society that is held under the grip of a right-wing autocratic religious caliphate that came to power under the guise of national security and proceeded to eliminate all political freedoms. There are several scenes that show the government randomly and unrestrictedly monitoring regular citrizens' phone conversations. This film is a warning to what society could become if we stand idly by.

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» RE: See V for vendetta Posted by: supercrisp