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Donald Rumsfeld Is Mad As a Hatter

By Stephen Pizzo, News for Real. Posted December 6, 2005.


We now have a certifiable loon in charge of the most powerful military on the face of the earth. Shouldn't someone do something?
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Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld is mad. No, I mean seriously ill. Mentally ill. Demonstrably so.

I can't say whether or not he was mad from the start, but I can tell you with some degree of certainty that he is now. And he's getting worse. Each successive news conference he sounds more and more like the character, Dr. Charles Montague, who was head of "The Place for the Very, Very Nervous" in the 1977 Mel Brooks flick, High Anxiety.

Don got so nutty during his weekly news conference last week that Joint Chiefs head, General Pace, had to reel him in; not once, but twice. The first time was when Pace used the accepted term, "insurgents," to describe the indigenous fighters in Iraq.

Rumsfeld interrupted, waving both hands over his head, to announce that over the weekend he had had an epiphany. We've been using the wrong term entirely to describe the Iraqis killing our troops over there, he pronounced from on high. They are not "insurgents," they are "Enemies of the Legally Elected Iraqi Government," or EOLEIGs. (Guess we know now why Donald never made it as a corporate jingle writer.)

Now ask yourself, what kind of person but a nut, would make such a pronouncement at a time when American kids are being blown up by the dozen each week? And to do so with such pompous grandiosity, on TV, and to cynical, hard-boiled reporters! Only a madman, a person so deeply confused in his own mind that he thinks his absurd ruling actually is contributing to a solution.

What on earth was he thinking? Actually, nothing new. Renaming fighters in Iraq has become a veritable hobby for Don. He's been re-branding the Iraqi fighters since the day we arrived there. Before the war even started he didn't even have a term for them because, he assured us, there would be no opposition to a U.S. attack on their country. But after Saddam was gone and U.S. troops started dying, Don told the same TV cameras to pay them no attention because, he said then, they were just a handful of "Dead-Enders" (D.E.'s).

As conditions in Rumsfeld's newly liberated Iraq deteriorated further, he renamed them again. No longer Dead Enders, they were now "Foreign Terrorist Fighters." And better yet, he said, they had been reduced to a rag-tag bunch that were "in their last throes."

Once Rumsfeld was done revealing his renaming epiphany he gave the microphone back to a clearly embarrassed General Pace. The general was faced with the choice of joining his boss in Looneyland, or using the now banned term, insurgents. Instead he said, Yeah, what he just said.

If Rumsfeld says such nutty things right on TV, you can imagine the thoughts he shares with subordinates back in the privacy of his office at the Pentagon. Where Yeah, what he just said becomes the day's marching orders.

The second time General Pace had to reel Rumsfeld in was when Pace was asked by reporters if U.S. troops in Iraq were supposed to step in and stop Iraqi troops from abusing fellow Iraqis. Pace was in the process of giving the right answer (yes), when Don-in-the-Box popped up again. "But I don't think you mean they have an obligation to physically stop it; it's to report it," he corrected the general.

Pace had no choice. "If they are physically present when inhumane treatment is taking place, sir, they have an obligation to try to stop it."

The look on Rumsfeld's face was the same look parents get when they tell their teenagers, "If your friends start drinking or using drugs you leave that party and come straight home!" You know the look -- the eyeballs rollup as the head jerks dismissively to one side.

From that look it was clear that Rumsfeld believes that, while U.S. troops had the right to invade Iraq, topple its government and occupy the country, they have no business telling Iraqis not to beat, torture or kill their own folks. Not our job, he says. (Administration vice-enabler, Dick Cheney, appears to agree.)

So we now have a certifiable loon in charge of the most powerful military on the face of the earth. Shouldn't someone do something? I mean, if Bush insists on having a nut in this post, at least hire a harmless nut. The world is full of them. He could find less nutty nuts downtown in any major city. Pick one with less dangerous notions than Don has. That way the weekly Pentagon news conferences would continue being ever so entertaining, but fewer people would get killed.

It's time for someone to tell Donald Rumsfeld, "No more fruit cup for you!"

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Stephen Pizzo is the author of numerous books, including "Inside Job: The Looting of America's Savings and Loans," which was nominated for a Pulitzer.

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Bush is a nut job too, so how can he tell Don is one as well?
Posted by: ShaSpirit on Dec 6, 2005 12:15 AM   
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I doubt if Cheney cares and he is the real leader of this threesome. He is from the only good Iraqi is a dead one or one that summits to them. Its all a game to coverup the real deal about the oil.

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Hang in there Mr. Pizzo --- keep writing!
Posted by: citizen chump on Dec 6, 2005 1:27 AM   
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When people finally decide to take a lesson from

Mr. Murhta, of Pennsylvania, things will begin to change.

It takes courage and strength to challenge lunatics, bullies,

and/or sociopaths who some how end up in charge, as

well as those who support them. Been there many times -

it makes keeping a job and saving for retirement difficult --

but the way things are going in the economy it appears manyof

us have nothing to loose -- but the fear of the always reliable

uncertain future (apologies to Mr. Roosevelt). When hearing

the words "team player" and similar platitudes and

euphemisms at work one is reminded that the staffs at

Auschwitz and the Gulags were not only team players but also

considered professionals. "What he said" ? -- give me the

gangster cliche "right, Boss" any day.

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» documentation on karl Roverer ? Posted by: citizenjoe
A little late in that analysis and conclusion, don't ya think?
Posted by: Pepper on Dec 6, 2005 3:19 AM   
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Many of us were calling all these guys loonies way back in 2002 and 2003 and no one seemed to see it except a minority of us.

I think Rumsy did not communicate his preference to his chief of staff or what ever you call Pace. Its what happens when you have a propoganda machine in place and forget to "lube" all the parts, like Pace, before putting it into action.

Actually I am grateful this happened right on national TV for all to see the absurdity of the entire mess we have there. Place neocon chickenhawks in charge of a large war machine and they go crazy over their new toys. "The difference between men and boys is the size and danger of their toys".

I think that is applicable here.

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Rumsfeld Always Loco
Posted by: SALLY EVANS on Dec 6, 2005 3:41 AM   
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How can anyone forget that delightful picture of Rumsfeld with that happy smile approaching Saddam to shake his hand? And what about those frequent meetings with the media and his happy smile while he spoke of pounding the Iraqis with cluster bombs and "shock and awe" attacks? Every meeting with the media was just one big, happy time while he spoke of the slaughter of Iraqis. To put a little more icing on this poisonous cake, George W. Bush in his speech at the Annapolis Naval Academy recently was pouring praise on the Rumhead for being a naval flyer when he knows full well that the guy has seen no more militery action than a boyscout. (JUST LIKE BUSH)

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» RE: umsfeld Always Loco Posted by: tcx2
Absolute power corrupts, absolutly
Posted by: citizenjoe on Dec 6, 2005 3:53 AM   
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Mad as a Hatter? Well, that is a simile. The plain truth is Rumsfeld has become part of a fascist regime which he knowingly and very carefully has helped to create. It is driving him mad just as it did Hitler and Mussolini. Rumsfeld is different than they are only in nationality and national tradition: Hitler was a German National Supremacist; Mussolini was an Italian National Supremacist; Rumsfeld and the other Party Leaders are American National Supremacists. This is the literal truth,not an analogy; it is not a trope, not a simile or a metaphor!

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» RE: not fascism yet continued Posted by: crachlis
» RE: not fascism yet continued Posted by: citizenjoe
oblivious
Posted by: menckenman on Dec 6, 2005 4:44 AM   
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Unfortunately, a large part of the american south (all of it) thinks were still fighting a small band of terrorists. They haven't got their mind around the word insurgent.

I have a suggestion for Rummy. Take the "enemy" part and just call 'em enemy ragheads. That'll make everything easier for the southern booboisie, anyway, and closer to a war strategy they can understand. Good ole boy whipass.

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Loonies in the Administration and this country
Posted by: kgs1947 on Dec 6, 2005 4:44 AM   
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Hey, Rumsfeld was hired and is back by a dry drunk, a certifiable narcissist, a man who wants to be king, on a lower rung however than Jesus...because jesus told him to wage war and torture people and deprive the people in poverty to the gutter. Oh, yes, this administration is full of the born-agains who are all sick, certifiably sick. I guess the Democrats in leadership position are one step away from them since they continue to remain silent!

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All neocons are loonies
Posted by: DCH on Dec 6, 2005 4:56 AM   
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In any other administration Don would stand out like a sore thumb. Who would ever have thought that Barry Goldwater and Richard Nixon would be considered to moderate to lead the Republican Party.
My objections to the current insanity by the neocons in office is that they are incompetent at evaluating a political/military direction for this country. Gen. Odom is absolutely correct in his critique. Wars are not fought against a tactic. A war on terrorisim is loonie in itself.

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» RE: All neocons are loonies Posted by: Basenjis
the american taliban
Posted by: julz2005 on Dec 6, 2005 5:15 AM   
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The will certainly be his
Posted by: owlbear1 on Dec 6, 2005 5:44 AM   
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Defense strategy.

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he aint the only one
Posted by: thecynic on Dec 6, 2005 5:45 AM   
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I have this sick feeling that everyone in our government is nuts.

We have a congress that wants to build billion dollar bridges to nowhere. It would seem to me that only a lunatic would want to do that. We have a Democratic party that wholeheartedly supported declaring war on Iraq over some half backed trumped up charges. It seems only a lunatic would want to do that. We have a president who decided that our social security system is insolvent at the same time the he signed legislation for an drug plan that is just as insolvent. It seems that only a lunatic would want to do that.

We have an electorate that continues to vote for these people. It seems that only a lunatic would want to do that.

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ECLECTICIST, S. JIM RODRIGUEZ
Posted by: SJR505 on Dec 6, 2005 5:54 AM   
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One of Bush 43's personal failings, besides stubborness , arrogance, and nonvisionary, is his inability to select "qualified " personnel to help lead this country...One of his most qualified,Colin Powell, Bush 43 failed to keep him and now has his crony "lapdogs" to bark yes in unison...
Further, every time "Silverfoot" opens his mouth - "Mission Accomplished..., Brownie you doing a great job..., Personal Accounts..., Social Security..., There are Wmds, nuclear weapons in Iraq..., We will put back integrity in the White house...," and now "How great the economy is going.." will come back to haunt him and the "Repugnicans..."
Moreover, both Bush 43, Cheney, Rumsfeld and the Repugnican cronies are not stupid or losing it(never had it), but are "vacuous" of vision, leadership, organization, and all those attributes that have defined our leaders of the U>S>A> in the past...Reflect and remember these thoughts ...:

"There is an old military doctrine called the First Rule of Holes: If you find yourself stuck in one, stop digging." -- The late Rear Admiral Eugene Carroll, U.S. Navy

To the living we owe respect, but to the dead we owe only the truth. “----Voltaire

"By the time Richard Milhous Nixon goes on trial in the Senate, the only real reason for trying him will be to understand how he ever became president of the United States at all ... and the real defendant, at that point, will be the American Political System. -- Hunter S. Thompson, 1973.

It is indeed a misfortune to the American constituency that there are only "Girlie - Men/Women" whether "Repugnican or Cowardcract "in the Congrees to start an "Impeachment Process..." And finally this thought from Ephesians 6:12 - 13, as the "Bush family curse" continues:

" For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places . Wherefore take unto you the whole armor of God, that ye may be able to withstand in the evil day , and having done all, to stand..."

S...JIM...RODRIGUEZ+++EL ECLECTICIST+++
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agitator church and state
Posted by: eileenflmng on Dec 6, 2005 6:09 AM   
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If a democracy is to flourish WE THE PEOPLE must all DO SOMETHING to confront hypocricy, lies and hold our 'leaders' accountable.

The Truth is on the Internet if you have the desire to seek it

USA media and government shields the truth and we at WAWA are DOING SOMETHING about it:


WAWA:
http://www.wearewideawake.org

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Reminds me of Reagan...
Posted by: Greatdentini on Dec 6, 2005 6:27 AM   
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When a friend of mine told me that Reagan had Alzheimers, I said, "How could they tell?"

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Time for meds...
Posted by: jefhadist on Dec 6, 2005 6:29 AM   
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Rummie's been cuckoo for cocoa puffs from day one. Reminds me of Nixon's face. When you covered up one half of it it was smiling. When you covered up the other side it was scowling. Looney tunes is the name of the game and we are the laughingstock for the forseeable future...flags at half mast. Did you ever think that the Nixon administration would start looking good in comparison? Dummie Rummie, looney toonie and trickie dickie were all sitting in a bar one day....Well, never mind. Just pray and act from the heart, with love and compassion. We still have the creative potential to run circles around the madness. Institute for Peace.....my ass.

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They are not nuts
Posted by: Lincoln fan on Dec 6, 2005 7:09 AM   
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Those of us who dismiss the administration as a bunch of nuts and failures, I think, are missing the point. Like sleight of hand it draws attention away from their actions. They have been very singleminded and successful. For decades, the agenda of the rich corporate elite has been to rid the country of the accursed New Deal. Through camapign financing and other bribes they control both parties. Even while Bush is going down in flames he is still trying to sink Social Security. So what if the Republicans lose this election? They will be back in eight or twelve years to renew their war on the poor and middle classes. In the interim the Democrats in "power" will "reluctantly" maintain the status quo. To think of any candidate as a leader is to be misled. He is the cape that conceals the sword until the bull is killed. He is the focus of the bull's attack while the torreador plots the kill. Don't pin your hopes on either party or on any candidate. If the middle class is to be saved we must do it ourselves. Demand that campaigns be run on our issues. We can take contol of both parties. Join the Lincoln Initiative, a grass roots movement with no dues, no contributions, no passwords and no registration. It is a strategy to attain Lincoln's ideal, "government of the people, by the people, and for the people". Click we can do it

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FINALLY SOMEBODY SAID IT
Posted by: crumbs on Dec 6, 2005 7:12 AM   
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Someone needs to wipe that smile off his face, a kick him off the podium and off his position. Smiling when talking about war is an indicator of something, and whatever it is it's not good.

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» RE: FINALLY SOMEBODY SAID IT Posted by: Basenjis
The Inmates are running the Asylum
Posted by: gonzoskismet on Dec 6, 2005 7:44 AM   
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Well, according to the last 'election', 51% of Americans approve of this type of lunacy. Praise the Lord and pass the Xanax!!!

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» RE: The Inmates are running the Asylum Posted by: wearesilhouettes
He's a senile old crock,
Posted by: Longdream on Dec 6, 2005 7:50 AM   
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with such an arthritic limp that when Lynne Cheney swooned in her book about his extreme sex appeal you could only laugh, after you finished screaming, "EEEEEEEWWWWW!!"

Like any petrified old turd who refuses to retire, he's running the company into the ground at a rapid rate, and he's getting worse and worse because arteries hardening in the brain do so progressively.

That crowd obsessively avoids light and air from the real world, and equates change with pissing sitting down, so don't look for any improvement. On the other hand, one day Rumsfeld is going to slip on the soap and land in the nursing home, and pretty soon Cheney is going to implode too fast for his internal defibrillator to save him.

Right now, it seems they're doing everything they can to fuck up with no help from anyone, and there's no heir to the throne. We can outlast them.

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"The Stooges Are Alive and Well in Washington"
Posted by: monkeywrench on Dec 6, 2005 8:29 AM   
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People are just catching on to this whack-job Rumsfeld? I thought there was something decidedly woo-hoo when he gave that "There are things that we know, and things that we don't know," "Who's on first" little speech years ago. And my guess is that if the generals in the Pentagon were not muzzled by the Bushitter neocons, they could provide an earfull to the American people about even loonier rantings of "Little General" Rummy out of the public eye. (Someone should ask of Rummy what he thinks about the situation in Freedonia...just to seal the diagnosis).

So there you have it: the modern version of the Three Stooges (Bush, Rove, Rumsfeld) and the Beelzebub Cheney are running a country. Kinda makes ya think we're living the Marx Brothers and "Horsefeathers" again, doesn't it? Except that they were a lot more entertaining, knew what they were doing, and were not nearly as dangerous.

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Who's to blame
Posted by: threedfm on Dec 6, 2005 8:30 AM   
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Let's hold his feet to the fire .

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He's been mad since Vietnam
Posted by: ScottP on Dec 6, 2005 9:19 AM   
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I don't recall ever seeing any evidence that he hasn't always been mad. Roll the tape back to Vietnam and watch him railing against "commie gooks who want to take over southeast Asia". Remember carpet bombing cities, intentionally killing literally millions of civilians? All for the crime of nationalism, which of course is an excellent trait if you're American but horrible if you're from Vietnam, Iraq, Venezuela, Chile, France, or any other country besides the US. Kind of like his view on religion, it's great if you're Christian but horrible if you're Muslim or Hindu, and even worse if you don't like any of them.

I agree, some of the neo-con enablers are simple profiteers, but Rumhead appears to be a true psychotic. Thanks for the excellent article!

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Nuts, Crazy, Mad... reference the DSM-IV
Posted by: donnel c on Dec 6, 2005 9:27 AM   
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Before calling someone mad, nuts or crazy it would be helpful to refer to the DSM-IV, the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders, so we could have a better handle on the type of disorder. I happen to agree in principle to the picture painted of Rumsfeld but being more definitive would provide more credibility and substance to this article.

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The Loonie has been there for a long time
Posted by: jeffrey7 on Dec 6, 2005 9:31 AM   
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Rummie and his other crazies Bush41 and Cheney have been at the upper levels of power in the US since the 70's.
Far too long for America. These fools were the leaders in Dick Nixon's plan to 'take this country so far to the right no-one will
recognize it'. They successed. They trained me and millions of others to Kill for the Country, millions of people that thought having an Elephant in town was a blessing. They told us they were 'Communists'. All I saw were dirt poor folks that the only threat there was,was from us. We're doing the same in Iraq. It could be rightfully observed that the whole
Administration is indeed 'CRAZY'. They left tens of thousands to die in New Orleans. Used Para-military units of goons to act as cops. While saving only those wealthy enough to warrant saving.
What's happening in Iraq is a 'landgrab' plain and simple. Or
maybe more to the point. The outright extermination of a people and their way of life so as to take their assets.
Profit and Plunder is the Administrations way. Let's not forget
we 'made' Saddam. So please tell me,to make an abhorant dictator,supply him with the deadliest weapons in the world,then make war on them,to steal their underground wealth, how crazy is that!

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Pizzo, you are exactly wrong on this one.
Posted by: americandissentradio on Dec 6, 2005 9:38 AM   
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Sorry, Pizzo, but you have this one wrong. Rumsfeld was making a distinction he should have made long ago. "Why would you call Zarqawi and his people insurgents against a legitimate Iraqi government with their own constitution? It just -- do they have broad popular support in that country? No."

In other words, Zarqawi's jihadist fighters are not insurgents, according to Rumsfeld. He was not saying that all of the Iraqi resistance was not an insurgency.

This is an impotant distinction, and one that his boss, George W. Bush made the next day during his speech to the Naval Academy. In fact, George carried the point further explaining that "rejectionists," or resistance fighters who are not jihadists, do not support the radical element that Zarqawi has represented to the US. His new plan counts on these non-radical Iraqis to come to the political table.

Wow! The Bush team makes a distinction! These buffoons have finally decided, a year and a half into the insurgency, to understand the enemy.

And what they have found is that the builk of the Iraqi resistance has these two major goals: get the US out of Iraq; prevent al Qaida from bringing in a Talibani-style goverment. Do those goals sound familiar? They are the very same goals on the US agenda!

The Bush team has finally come to realize that we have been shooting our allies.

And while we may never get the bulk of Iraq's "rejectionists" to stop fighting us while we occupy their country, the US Ambassador to Iraq, Zalmay Khalilzad is now negotiating with some Iraqi insurgents to do just that. So Rumsfeld's words are not mere rhetoric. They are becoming policy on the ground and are aimed at finally working with the people we went in to liberate, instead of killing them while they kill us.

So whether this new plan works or not, if you're looking for insanity look at everything this administration has done in Iraq before this speech. Because now, we finally have some clarity coming from Bush and Rumsfeld. That it has taken them this long to become aware is the mark of some serious delusion.

I can understand your confusion in this point, however. Like the one sane person in an asylum, the one moment of clarity is what looks crazy.

Chris Cronin
Host
American Dissent Radio

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Looney Don!
Posted by: woodford54 on Dec 6, 2005 9:57 AM   
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Stephen, you have done it again. This is all so sadly true!

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The rabbit hole
Posted by: Gonnuts on Dec 6, 2005 10:11 AM   
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Sometimes I feel like i must have been traveling the universe with God and told him just to let me off at the first planet with in-door plumbing. Rumsfeld insane? This whole frick'n world is insane.
So what if bush fires rummy. Who do you think an insane bush would put in there next? John Murtha? LOL
And as far as the public being insane, when non-paper trail voting was introduced without a whimper or debate that capped it. How in God' name can anyone just simply trust that their vote would be counted? Since the day we're born we're told to get a receipt for everything. You buy a pack of gum, you get a receipt. But knowing you're vote was counted or having proof in hand in case of dispute, nah, you don't need no stinking proof your vote, the foundation of a true democracy was counted. Just trust us. Now THAT's insane!

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No News Flash Here
Posted by: cyclone on Dec 6, 2005 10:36 AM   
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Just a prelude to what is to come, the Boosh meltdown in spectacular public fashion. Thank God for Mongolia, or it would have happened already. With no male support around him anymore, the world turning their collective back's on him and his meds not working, the inevitable implosion will soon occur. They are all mad.

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We convict based on an absence of evidence!
Posted by: Kneel on Dec 6, 2005 10:49 AM   
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Look at what happened when the European countries basically agreed to join in the current Iraq war, as they had with the first one and Afghanistan.

So the foreign ministers meet and they say, OK, we're ready to go, sound bad, let's take a look at what you've found out about these WMDs Saddam's been producing and stockpiling.

To which Rumsfield will only give his absurd word-game answer, "The absence of evidence is not the evidence of absence."

And... you want us all to go to war based on that? An absence of evidence?

Things only got worse from there. If you wonder why you don't have armor plates, "You go to war with the army you have..." and on and on.

He's the sort of guy people would ignore, good with making interestingly absurd sentences word games, but a little looney overall, if he wasn't in the position of power.

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An absolute disgrace
Posted by: mortarthegovernment on Dec 6, 2005 11:06 AM   
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The only coverage I've seen of this was when it was live last week. This man should have been gone after he said, "..you go to war with the (military?) you have not the one you could have," to explain why National Guard's troops had defective hand me down equipment.

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Definitely Hat Material...
Posted by: wewallace on Dec 6, 2005 11:22 AM   
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Good job, Steve. I was wondering if I was the only one who had noticed that Rummy was clearly ga-ga.

Now if we could only 5150 the rest of the Cheney-Bush crew for 72 hours of observation we might get somewhere...

Bill Wallace
San Francisco Chronicle

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» RE: Definitely Hat Material... Posted by: Basenjis
confusing evil with mental illness is wrong
Posted by: Belle on Dec 6, 2005 11:47 AM   
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Rumsfeld is not mentally ill, he is evil. I think it is a gross offense to actually mentally ill people (who cannot help their situation and are surely among the most unfortunate of the earth) to confuse evil men who chuckle over the destruction of innocent people, with the mentally ill. Very few indeed of the people who are really mentally ill are vicious and vile, and certainly they are not capable of planning and carrying out the kind of calamity that Rumsfeld and Cheney have unleashed upon the world. Ask a torture victim if he believes his torturers were mentally ill.

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Newsguy
Posted by: Newsguy on Dec 6, 2005 12:29 PM   
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On the other hand, I think Bush is great. I think Rummy is great. I think Cheney is great.

Say, I've been channelling Atilla the Hun lately in the mornings, and Ivan the Terrible in the afternoons.

I think Hitler is great. I think Mussolini is great. I think Pol Pot is great...

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Is the editor on vacation?
Posted by: JesseBC on Dec 6, 2005 12:42 PM   
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I agree with the general sentiment of this, but how is a handful of paragraphs repeating that Rumsfeld's a nutter in a few different ways with very little supporting information considered a piece of quality journalism? Is the editor on vacation? Feeling tired? Publishing a personal friend? I don't understand how a piece this poor made it to the front page.

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Donnie Loco&Chronic Straussitis
Posted by: fuzzflash on Dec 6, 2005 1:30 PM   
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It's a "known known" that Donnie Loco has been long subject to debilitaing bouts Of Chronic Straussitis. Symptoms overlap with those of psycopathy and include: reflex mendacity, moral certitude, total disconnect from the suffering, mutilation and death of others, and a mushrooming individual net worth. A clear and present danger to all within their sphere of influence, sufferers require forcible restraint before being rendered to an appropriate institution. The disease is believed to have originated in Northern Illinois in the early Fifties. Electoral ostracisation of the patient's life support system(political euthanasia) is the only effective treatment.

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Understand your subkect
Posted by: HuckFinn on Dec 6, 2005 2:08 PM   
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I want to keep this rather simple, since I do not totally disagree that Rummie is a little different. However, the fact that he is gradually changing the name of insurgents to eneimes of the state of Iraq, is a smart step in the correct direction...if you care at all about getting our boys home. The fact of the matter is that they are enemies of a free Iraq. Do you believe that they (enemies of Iraq/insurgents) are fighting, killing, and risking their own lives just because they hate Americans and want them to leave so they can build a democratic, abuse free, Iraq.....no way. They are fighting to create a fundamental Islamic oppresive machine that forces lifestyle and culture regulated by religion, which is interpretted by men who live in silo's of more fundamentalism; verging on extremism. Rummy might be right on this one....do you feel loony now.

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Looney or Senile???
Posted by: jeanna on Dec 6, 2005 2:10 PM   
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Having followed Rummy's career from way back when he was a congressman from Illinois & I was a Republican, I recall that my father who was active in Illinois GOP politics never trusted him. He was always a loose cannon.. but clever enough to land on his feet.. or in a better job. We were also living in Belgium during the time he was ambassador to NATO. He won few hearts or minds when he was there & was as arrogant as ever. Now that he is seventy plus and obviously well on the road to total senility it is time to retire him from public life and put him and the country and the world in a safer place!

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A rose by any other name...
Posted by: Houyhnhnm on Dec 6, 2005 2:17 PM   
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"From that look it was clear that Rumsfeld believes that, while U.S. troops had the right to invade Iraq, topple its government and occupy the country, they have no business telling Iraqis not to beat, torture or kill their own folks."

Agreed this is Rumsfeld's attitude, but fascinating in that supposedly, that was America's objection to Saddam, supposedly -- and his farsical "trial" continues. I can hardly wait for Bush 43's war crimes trial....

But I'm all for renaming things. I suggest we say that all the Iraqi children who have been killed have instead been "retroactively aborted" and that we rename this war "The War of Pseudo-Texan Aggression."

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HAS ANYONE HEARD?
Posted by: krose on Dec 6, 2005 3:13 PM   
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HAS ANYONE HEARD that Rumsfeld will be fired after the New Year, and that Lieberman will get his job?

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» RE: HAS ANYONE HEARD? Posted by: katinmn
Bush&Co told all news outlets if anyone reported election fraud they would be punished
Posted by: ShaSpirit on Dec 6, 2005 3:42 PM   
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I received an email from a Spiritual friend, who like me feels a need to get rid of Bush, instead of just being meditative and peaceful. One of the better known reporters on TV had received this presidential edict. This is why we did not hear more about the election irregularities. People just swallowed the differences in Ohio tally after voting count and the results claimed by republican election officials.

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Rummy nuts? Bush is crazier!
Posted by: graywolf48 on Dec 6, 2005 3:49 PM   
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George W. Bush is a true sociopath. Read the book "Bush On The Couch", it's a truly frightening and fascinating read. It would seem the entire Bush clan is mentally defective. Just look at the family history of conspiring with Nazi's, international criminals, religious loons, booze, drugs, lies, incompetancy, refusal to take responsibility for their actions. Barbara, the grand matriarch, is a real piece of work and as it says in "Bush On The Couch", George is definately his mother's son. She is absolutely a cold, vindictive, hateful woman and not to be admired.

Our republic has plunged so far into the depths since Ben Franklin and the other founding fathers gave us our form of government. Franklin said at the time he "hoped we could keep it." Look at what we've had in leadership positions the past 25 years; an endless line of liars, crooks, hatemongers, whoremongers and mental defectives. It's like watching an American version of the movie "Caligula"!

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Divisive diatribe
Posted by: mumblingrepublican on Dec 6, 2005 4:50 PM   
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Sure he's a nut case, but the folks on the right don't want to hear it. Want to do something about it - write words that will bring us together.

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And the Obvious is Boldly Pronounced!
Posted by: fullavit@hotmail.com on Dec 6, 2005 6:42 PM   
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How interesting that at this late date that Rummy is found to be of less than sound mental facalty! My, my! What WERE you all looking at for all these years, while this nut case skipped gleefully about shredding the Bill of Rights and pissing on the Constitution!

My question is not that he is as mad as a hatter! But how long before somebody in the government notices!

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Rummy may be loco but Cheney's Gone Caliphate
Posted by: richards1052 on Dec 6, 2005 11:09 PM   
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I won't quarrel with you too much about Rummy. Though I'd characterize him as over the top rather than certifiable.

But Cheney, now there's a true lunatic:

“The terrorists believe that by controlling an entire country,” he said, “they will be able to target and overthrow other governments in the region, and to establish a radical Islamic empire that encompasses a region from Spain, across North Africa, through the Middle East and South Asia, all the way to Indonesia. They have made clear, as well, their ultimate ambitions: to arm themselves with weapons of mass destruction, to destroy Israel, to intimidate all Western countries and to cause mass death in the United States.”

From this quote it's clear that Dick Cheney & Osama bin Laden are the only 2 leaders (along w. their respective followers) who believe in the concept of the Muslim caliphate. Now that's right off the deep end stuff, wouldn't you agree.

For more see my post about this.

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Groundhog
Posted by: Groundhog on Dec 7, 2005 12:14 AM   
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Yeah, well everyone has known Rummy is nuts ever since he was appointed, kind of like who was shocked to find that Ronald Reagan had Oldtimer's disease. Jeeze. Now all the blather and fuss, but the bottom line - they are still in power.
And, like previous Republican Administrations, they will be remain in power, untouched by any law that might pertain to you and me. They are all swine (thanks Hunter), and they are in control. Solutions? Can't think of any, sorry to say. Face it, the dumbing down of America worked, and your vote doesn't count. It's going to get very ugly, mi amigos, before it gets better. Blog on, but the hard rain that's falling ain't gonna let up any time soon.

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re rummy's penchant for renaming
Posted by: william swint on Dec 7, 2005 1:09 AM   
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Number 2 in the Washington Nuthouse, Rummy, seems to like to rename things with regards to what is happening in Iran and Afghanistan. So while we're at it why not give the incarceration facilities overseas their proper names :Concentration Camps, for that's what they are, are'nt they? And give the leading military characters in charge of these terrible places of abuse and plain old physical and mental torture the appropriate titles of Camp Commanders.(The better to convict them later).
And instead of the motto "Arbeit Macht Frei", let's use : "A beating a day will go a long way. Long live the USA".

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An answer to a rhetorical question....
Posted by: jdwilliams on Dec 7, 2005 5:28 AM   
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So we now have a certifiable loon in charge of the most powerful military on the face of the earth. Shouldn't someone do something?

I realize it is a rhetorical question, but that has never stopped me before... :)

Hopefully the American people are waking up and will do something soon. Call and write their representatives, write letters to the editors of their local papers (which their representatives read, believe it or not) and generally raise hell with those representatives who, in turn, will bring the troops home and restore some semblance of sanity to our foreign policy.

The best time for Americans to have done something would have been in 2000, when we had a chance to elect someone other than the George W. Bush, sock puppet to the neocons that the Reagan administration branded as nuts--Cheney, Wolfowitz, and dear, old Rummy.

Will the American people learn from this? Will herds of somnambulent, mouth-breathing Wal-Mart shoppers learn to listen to their Volvo-driving, NPR-listening neighbors?

Probably not.

And the American pendulum will swing from one bipolar political extreme to the other, yet again.

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Great article, but...
Posted by: kenn on Dec 7, 2005 4:43 PM   
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Great article, but no one likes to hear that the bus driver has gone insane, especially when they're on the bus. so i don't expect this message to stick in the media or masses because it's just too scary.

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These people are rational, not crazy
Posted by: citizenjoe on Dec 10, 2005 3:43 AM   
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You guys are greatly mistaken to say Rumsfeld and Co. are crazy; they are fascist. Fascists are not crazy; they are very rationally grounded in political, economic and social realities. That is why they can obtain so much authority and power. This is a fact not somebody’s fantasy! Do not fail to understand that the Bush Regime is fascist. Bush and Co are not crazy and Hitler wasn't either. They want a different form of state than we are familiar with. It looks crazy, but it is perfectly rational if you understand it. As Huey Long said, fascism will come to America as anti-fascism. It has arrived. Open your eyes! First, ‘fascism’s a term of political theory. Political theory, classically, is the theory of the state primarily, of society secondarily. People are correct to say that in the USA today there is yet no fascist state. The Bush REGIME is fascist; the STATE is not fascist- a very big difference. Mussolini was a fascist who ruled in a liberal, not a fascist, state. The Bush regime is, in this respect, very much in the same position as Mussolini. In one way they are more like Hitler in that they want to dominate the world, not just the Mediterranean or the Middle East. These people are the real thing, not imitations. Second, Fascism is not to be defined as a political movement that rules primarily by repression and destroys working class communities by violence. Unlike Italy and Germany, there are no well organized working class communities in the USA to destroy! That is one reason we are seeing the ascendancy of a fascist regime and also the complicity of the Democrat Party. As Rove understands perfectly, the press is already in the service of the state. Joseph Goebbel's would have been in paradise with a submissive and fawning press that needs no repression whatever to serve the ends of the Regime. Totalitarianism is primarily the elimination of all effective political opposition to the extreme nationalist right wing. Extensive repression may well not be required to bring about this uniformity. When it is accomplished we have a fascist state. The USA and the world would be much better off if the Democrats would cease their complicity. I have my doubts if they will wake up. . They long ago gave up ambitions to make the USA a democracy. Like the Republicans they are servants to corporate power. It is a very sad state or affairs and the affairs of state are sad as well.

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A simple input
Posted by: fdr_vindicated on Dec 10, 2005 6:03 PM   
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I now have a bumper sticker that states: "Somewhere in Texas a village is missing ITS IDIOT"

To me, that sadly says it all.

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They've already added to the list.....
Posted by: Spectuckular on Dec 14, 2005 1:43 PM   
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now Bush, Condi, and McClellan are throwing out the term: 'Saddamists'. Yeah, a group of supposedly highly educated speech writers came up with that little gem. As long as Saddam's trial gets pop-culture notoriety and still appears as the evil figure of Iraq, the RNC will use this term to support whatever actions they want to take over there...I laughed out loud 5 times during Bush's speech the other day every time he said 'Saddamists' -- which means what exactly???

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It's called 'mass delusion'
Posted by: Artemis3 on Dec 20, 2005 4:17 PM   
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I've felt this way a long time, ever since the majority of folks here in the U.S. had become enamored of the Almighty Dollar and Big Entertainment. How can people busy chasing after those things see what's really going on around them? And this is just what those loonies in Washington want to see so they can accomplish their hijacking of the true America. God (or Goddess) help us!

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Power Corrupts...
Posted by: tanstaafl28 on Dec 23, 2005 1:23 PM   
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And absolute power corrupts absolutely. -Lord Acton


I've never seen anyone who can talk as much as Rummy does and say absolutely nothing.

The whole Bush Cabal is mad with power; having gotten away with so much since 9/11. Now they are flabbergasted that people are (finally) starting to disagree with them in enough numbers to actually stop them in their tracks.

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