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Bush's Most Desperate Speech Yet

By Evan Derkacz, AlterNet. Posted October 10, 2005.


The president's 'Top 10 Derailed Plots' speech was a sorry attempt to convince a skeptical public that the U.S. should remain in Iraq.
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On the very day that New York City received "credible" (then "doubtful") information that 19 operatives had been dispatched to bomb the subways, President Bush gave a speech to remind America that the "war on terror" was on the front burner. Channeling elder statesman David Letterman, Bush claimed that 10 serious terrorist plots had been derailed since 9/11.

Bush was hoping to deliver us from our dangerous preoccupation with Rove's troubles, DeLay's indictment, Frist's SEC problems, the fallout from Katrina, his holy-shit-I've-even-lost-the-evangelicals 37-percent approval rating, and the $3 gallon of gas. You know, to focus on the real threat (Ter'r), and thus, his argument went, to remain in Iraq.

Or, from The New York Times:

A senior White House official said Thursday evening that the president's 40-minute speech arose from Mr. Bush's desire to remind Americans, after "a lot of distractions" in recent months, that the country was still under threat, and had no choice but to remain in Iraq so Al Qaeda did not use it as a base to train for attacks on the United States and its allies.

In other words, Bush is asking America to continue to Fight the Enemy -- though now it's an enemy created by failed policy. He's even exhumed Osama bin Laden again, calculating, apparently, that he has more to gain by invoking the bogeyman than he has to lose reminding the public he hasn't caught him after four years and billions down the drain. Talk about desperation.

Speaking of desperation, listed among the 10 threats derailed over the past four years by the Bush Administration are attempts "to attack ships in the Persian Gulf in late 2002 and 2003; to attack ships in the Strait of Hormuz, a narrow part of the gulf where it opens into the Arabian Sea, in 2002 ... "

One doesn't want to make light of any legitimate threat, nor value the life of one people over another, but does anyone seriously believe that the president went on TV to inspire the confidence of Americans (or to assure them of his leadership) by invoking a 3-year-old plot to attack ships in the Strait of Hormuz? Can one in 100 Americans even find the Strait of Hormuz on a map?

And, when one considers the sound-bite companion to "stay the course" -- that America will "stand down when Iraqis stand up" -- the folly of Bush's speech gave way to absurdity because the number of trained Iraqis "standing up" has actually dropped.

On Sept. 29, General George Casey testified that "the number of Iraqi battalions capable of fighting without American support has dropped from three to one." Insurmountable? Not if you move the goal posts and remain vague: "There are over 30 Iraqi battalions in the lead," claimed the president at an Oct. 4 press conference.

So thin was the gruel served up in Thursday's speech, that even the typically charitable New York Times refused to play along. David Sanger's article positively dripped with sarcasm and disdain. After the press grilled Scott McClellan over the Top 10 Derailed Plots mentioned in Bush's speech, and after his underwhelming response (Jose Padilla, Iman Faris), the Times' Sanger noted that a list was "hastily put together" and that "It was not immediately clear whether other items on the list represented significant threats."

Judged in its entirety, Bush's speech was a flailing disaster. But the zenith -- or nadir, depending on your perspective -- has to be Bush's inclusion of Jose Padilla on his list of 10. It goes without saying that if Padilla had plotted what he is accused of plotting -- namely, to detonate a "dirty bomb" on a plane -- then he legitimately belongs on the list.

But Padilla doesn't yet, becuase he hasn't had due process. As Findlaw's Joanne Mariner put it, "The truth of the allegations against [Padilla] -- that he planned to commit acts of terrorism -- has never been tested in court." By including Padilla on that list, Bush shows he's content to convict a man in the court of his own opinion.

The implications of the Padilla case are themselves terror-inducing. Supreme Court Justice John Paul Stevens, in his dissent to the Supreme Court's rejection of the Padilla case on "procedural grounds," put it this way: "At stake in this case is nothing less than the essence of a free society."

Indeed, if the Bush administration is given the go-ahead to classify anyone it desires an enemy combatant, and thus exclude them from their right to due process, well, you do the math.

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Depressing
Posted by: kgs1947 on Oct 10, 2005 3:55 AM   
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The state of this nation and its policies...from war to environment, from civil rights for gays and blacks to the undermining of the justice system...is depressing. No wonder there are so many angry people in this country, like me.

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Bushes vomit
Posted by: walldodger69 on Oct 10, 2005 4:50 AM   
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I am in awe at the people that still think he is a great leader.They have their heads stuck so far up the fairytail laden Bible they just can't see what this adminisrtation has done to the country

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The Ugly American keeps getting uglier
Posted by: drSooz on Oct 10, 2005 4:57 AM   
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Down to thirty seven percent; losing the faith of his evangelical base; and playing judge, jury, executioner, and snake-oil salesman to distract an increasingly dubious public... One can only hope that along with moving the goal posts and changing the goal, he'll drop the ball and fumble so badly that he won't recover, and will be taken out of the game: sent home to Texas to clear brush and stay out of the way, since he can't lead or follow.

But don't despair! We've still got the '06 elections and BRAND NEW TOUCHSCREEN VOTING MACHINES (brought to us courtesy of Diebold) to get this country back on the course from which it should never have strayed. Kyrie, eleison. Christe, eleison. Kyrie, eleison...

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agitator church and state
Posted by: eileenflmng on Oct 10, 2005 5:54 AM   
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"If enough Christians follow the gospel they can bring any state to its knees"- Father Francis Phillip Berrigan, circa 1968 regarding the apathy of Christians to the immoral Vietnam War.

What the anti-war community lacks is a voice and a presence like Fr. Berrigan or a Rev. King. who cut through the BS and hypocricy with words as sharp and cutting as a two edged sword.

Until another Father B or MLK show up, I am doing something and invite you to do something too:

www.wearewideawake.org

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years of change???
Posted by: Farmertim on Oct 10, 2005 6:10 AM   
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I recently heard a very good quote....
"democracy is not what we have, democracy is what we do..."
unfortunately untill more people realize that this country is a work in progress, just like all other things(ie "evolution") we will continue to face leadership that tells us what most want to hear, and the illusion of being left alone is perpetuated through globs of crap like this terror speech.
I was in the Pheniox airport as the subway of new york was under a photo- op and all eyes in the terminal were fixed to the TV screen waiting for the proof that Bush was right, and they can hold there beliefs firm.
It was sickening to say the least, but this is what America has been conditioned to do.
I don't own a antenna or dish, and don't plan on it anytime soon if its only purpose is to cast a spell on its viewers and lead them down the path in which we find ourselves.
It is my belief that our generations time is lost to enjoy the freedoms we were told was ours in school, it is our time to rebel agaisnt this form of government and set a path for our children to deliver to thier children a freedom and a government that is worthy of the Consitution this country has produced.
How to do this, I am not sure, voting is out, unless your extremely rich change is out of reach, numbers is all we have left.
But as any farmer can tell you, to get 3 people to agree on anything ....well maybe democracy is the very problem that we face... maybe a new identity is in order to reclaim the fabric of our society which promotes the very things democracy has used against us.

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barbara
Posted by: Barbara on Oct 10, 2005 6:59 AM   
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It looks to me like it's time thre was another " terrorist " incident in your country, so Bush can show up as the hero again, rally public support and have fear hightened. These supposed attemps which occured in some place no-one even knows about, has only created a cynical response from the press and the public. So,....I'll bet that a situation will be created within your country very soon. Manufactured by the C.I.A,
The attack will be made by people from the middle east, on an area which will provoke sympathy and outrage. Probably Dysney Land. Somewhere like that. The perpetrators will naturally all die, so they can't be tried. And Bush will be flying high again. I'll put my money on this one. You can call me a sicko, or put your money on the table boys.

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Unbelievable
Posted by: NamVeT on Oct 10, 2005 7:00 AM   
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I agree with Walldodger69. How can anyone with even a tenth of a brain still support george (I am an idiot and moron) bush? bush has demonstrated time and time again he is a complete failure. Just look at all the businesses he's ran in the past. They all failed. The man simply put is one of the biggest fucking mistakes ever created by "evolution" or intelligent design. We had better get rid of these guys before it's too late. Again, does martial law ring any bells? Wait too long and we'll find out.

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Give Bush a fair chance
Posted by: ciccio on Oct 10, 2005 7:33 AM   
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We have all heard Bush's view on Christianity and we have all heard and seen how the exteme right worships him. Instead of applying reason to their stance you do nothing but put him and his side down. All I ask is that you give him a fair chance. Do the Pontius Pilate thing on him, give him the three days to prove you all wrong.

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Oh, Shoot, I never listen to the man so I won't get sick, now I wish I had.
Posted by: Pepper on Oct 10, 2005 7:51 AM   
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I don't listen to him because it depresses me for two reasons:

1. I can't stand the pap he puts out and all that brainless mishy wishy weasely garbage he feeds the hungry masses who then soak it up.

2. I get depressed KNOWING he has people out there who believe all this crap lock stock and barrel and its mindless following of his every word. Thank goodness its decreasing rapidly.

Remember, its the Bible itself that says "the elect will be deceived" and by golly, the Bible was right.

Regardless of what happens to Bush, I think the agenda is going to be played out. Remember they want to push the population back down to 550 million. That means they need to kill off about 5.5 billion people to do that. This flu thing will only make a dent in that. So we have much more to look forward to.

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Get Up, Get Out, And Do Something!
Posted by: cstriker on Oct 10, 2005 8:39 AM   
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Write your congressperson and start pushing for impeachment.

I have a friend that thinks that impeachment would tear the country appart. Maybe that is what we need. He says it will destroy trust in government. I think that is already a lost cause.

If the direction that we are taking is scaring you, then you should start pushing to impeach Bush and his cronies on ground of incompetence. If they can try to impeach Clinton because he was adulterous then we can definately impeach Bush on ground of incompetence.

Overall, I'd say we are seriously misguided. We are more concerned with a President getting off in the oval office, Micheal Jackson abusing kids, some missing girl in aruba, etc, etc, etc... than we are in the real problems.

I don't think the media is pushing that stuff just because they think it will get ratings, oh wait, maybe they are. I wonder where they got that idea. It's because people watch it. It's because people still buy the Enquirer. Get a clue people, until you boycott the mess they are pushing they won't change it. Stop watching and start thinking for yourself and showing that you have an interest in what is really going on.

How much world news do you see on CNN, FOX, or MSNBC (or your local station for that matter)? Are we so narrow minded that we would rather see the sensationalized messages the corporate media is pushing?

HelenWheels has it right, "...nearly everyone is brainwashed by tv & advertising. Why are we so fat & complacent?" and I'm with her 100%. I realize that many of you don't pay attention to the major media outlets. If you did why would you be here reading? But we should be spreading that message to everyone we know.

For now, if you are really freaked out by Bushism, consider impeaching. Check out

http://impeachbushcoalition.blogspot.com/

Also, I'm still talking national strike people.

http://uwannano.blogspot.com

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Stinking thinking
Posted by: eastcoker on Oct 10, 2005 9:02 AM   
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Folks I am sorry to keep driving this point home, but if Bush is indeed an alcoholic, and has indeed fallen off the wagon, what we are seeing is the result. I am serious about an intervention. Now that is something I could write to his staff about, starting with his wife...
Alcoholism is a progressive disease. How old is Bush? If he has never checked the progression of his alcoholism, we are in serious trouble.
I am shocked that nobody else seems to be concerned by this...that his administration is allowing him to stay at the helm when he is clearly unfit for duty. That does not give me a very secure feeling at all about being an American citizen. I think we are in big trouble. I think we are very vulnerable right now. I do not want to say this out in public but we are wide open...we are like a duck sitting on the pond...and who is a the hunter that is watching us?
I do not like this situation at all!
I say write to his administration and write to the UN. We have to try to do something to remedy this situation.

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» Out his handlers then! Posted by: eastcoker
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War against religion
Posted by: Fade on Oct 10, 2005 10:06 AM   
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Can we just BAN all religion? Mythology worshippers should not be taken seriously. Do good things because they are GOOD things to do, not because you are afraid of some boogie man or some alternate dimensional hell-prison.

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Why do we Even Listen to This Rube
Posted by: stoney13 on Oct 10, 2005 10:38 AM   
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Damn people, haven't we heard enough of these "Made for prime time" moments? What can this goofball and his hired handlers have to say that we haven't already heard before a dozen times over?

He's a lousy fucking crook who just happens to be a good enough con-man to run five businesses into the ground. If that doesn't make you think then you're dead!!!

Every time he gets in front of a crowd of his hand-picked "base", he turns on the school boy charm and "BAM!!" He's loved by millions!!!

This time it failed him though!! Nobody's buying his line of shit no matter how hard he sells it!! If only it would have happened this time last year!!

I don't think Diebold could have handed him an election with only 37% of the vote!!

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King George and Iraq
Posted by: wrogal on Oct 10, 2005 11:47 AM   
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The entire Bush "adventure" in Iraq sounds so much like another US adventure 40 years ago, in a place called Vietnam, that it is uncanny. The only difference is that back then, 40 years ago, the president was a Democrat, today, he is a Republican. Both Johnson and Bush sound the same; we will see this through to the end. Back 40 years ago, people got so sick of the war, they elected a Republican to stop it and the way he (Nixon) acted, we sometimes wondered if he wanted it stopped. Today, we might have to look at electing a Democrat to stop it and bring the troops home. I am sure though the results will be the same as they were in Vietnam; that is, we will march away from the mess we made, the country we were supposed to be saving will be overrun by our enemies and everyone will feel it was all for nothing! We will have lost many American lives, spent billions of dollars, disrupted both American and Iraqi livlihoods and made our allies more skeptical of us than ever, and for what?!

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He's jumped the shark...
Posted by: sgtmartin1 on Oct 10, 2005 2:44 PM   
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From: You can’t call it terror if you’re not afraid of it.

...All the latest commotion was conveniently foreshadowed by the President a day earlier in a “major speech” on terror. It was a real stemwinder. I have the Cliff notes.

Bush said: “9-11…terror…assaulted by enemies…great evil…covered in smoke and ashes…fire across the Potomac…new terror offensive…kill children and the elderly…mortal danger to all humanity…like a parasite…as brutal an enemy as we’ve ever faced.” It’s the same pep talk he gives every time his polls plummet.

Doesn’t it seem odd that a President who conducts foreign policy like he’s trying to get in touch with his inner-cowboy would be so intent on turning his own country into a herd of spooked sheep?

But with Karl Rove curled up into a fetal ball awaiting the word of a certain grand jury, and the rest of the team either fending off the FBI or dusting off their curricula vitae, Bush is kind of on his own. So he’s playing the hole card, the only thing that’s ever worked for him. Be very, very afraid.

Terrorists, hurricanes, bio-agents, wild fires, housing bubbles, social insecurity, gay people getting married, be very, very afraid.

Now Bush is squawking about a military takeover when the Avian flu pandemic hits. How bad is it when we’re afraid of chickens?...

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I'm Staying & Voting!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: SanFranDuke on Oct 10, 2005 2:51 PM   
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One of the blessings of living in a democracy is that we can vote the bastards OUT! That is exactly what I intend to do.

The next election is in ought six when we vote for a new Congress. Vote Democratic! Don't be a romantic and vote for some third party because you'll waste your vote. Even a non-statistician like me knows that.

In 2008, vote DEMOCRATIC! Let's send the Republicans home where they can spend the rest of their days explaining how they got us in such a mess.

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Bush set the Terror Trap again....
Posted by: shadow7 on Oct 10, 2005 3:13 PM   
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Don't think that no one was taken in....

CLICK HERE

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Abusing the Faithful
Posted by: Riverside on Oct 10, 2005 4:19 PM   
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Perhaps the most egregious actions of the Bush Administration are their tactical deployment of politically motivated evangelicals who religiously intimidate honest, caring and faithful people into supporting a whacko regime out of threats of eternal damnation.

There is a seamy side to America and there always has been in one way or another. The American ayatollahs link this directly to liberal idealogy. They preach with fierceness and fire that the Democrats will lead all of us into the inferno. For those who hold themselves and their families together more from faith than wealth or power, these warnings seem real and frightening. These are not stupid or uncaring people, these are frightened people who are being bullied by power-mad zealots.

Pull out your history books and you will see this has happened to humankind for centuries. One group that fought it founded a great new country - these United States. We must remember that and fight to return it to its original status.

Perhaps we need to reply to the ayatollahs: Do not tell me how to vote, and to our leaders: Do not tell me when or how to pray. This is the real America, lets not forget that.

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antidisestablishmentarianism
Posted by: gizzanizzle on Oct 10, 2005 4:48 PM   
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what's up with all these scary pictures of clowns i keep seeing on the evening news?

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using the military for what if we all get the bird flu
Posted by: fuzypupy on Oct 10, 2005 9:13 PM   
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mass quarentine? perhaps like the movie outbreak bomb the first town it strikes.

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America killing itself for generations to come
Posted by: Bennie on Oct 10, 2005 9:50 PM   
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As an outsider viewing from a nation of the "willing", it must be seen that each Iraqi that is killed for whatever reason is creating another generation of hate and anger that will go on and on. Why not fix your own country instead of being a policeman that no one wants. What I saw of the New Olreans tragedy was shameful. It looked like what happens in the war and famine ravaged African nations. Surely not the US where they can have troops around the world, stopping terror and spending billions on setting up a Starbucks on some faraway planet. The terror stick helps to keep the masses in control. Surely the US has now become a bigger target. Why has Australia now become a target? A willing partner is a good guess. The terror stick kept Blair in power (just), Bush in power and Howard in power. If you speak out you are a traitor. Surely this is how those who wanted to speak out against the likes of Hitler were silenced. You too can be held without trial or charges forever.
Come on America, do something!!!

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The hidden (?) meanings
Posted by: jeffrey7 on Oct 12, 2005 11:20 AM   
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Since Darth Dubya's little speech everyone with ears knows the seedy little plot the Republic has in mind. Conquest of Syria and Iran. The three biggest oil consumers,the US, Russia and China are gearing up for a mammoth conflict to control the MidEast oil region. Two weeks ago Russia and China held joint military exercises with US counterparts in obsrevance. This was held in the desert climates shared by both countries. Last week Darth Dubya announced "No Patience" for not only terrorists,but, harboring copuntries,and rulerships that sponser acts of terrorism.Reiterating his 'fight them in their home and not ours" policy,duck and cover has become the new mantra for the middleeast. Considering that we made most of the Leaders of that region,they are probably wondering why we're screwing them. Sorry guys
'Biznuss' has always been done that way with the US,Ask the Cherokee. Why do we need Russia and China's help?
Because Syria and Iran are alot more badass and you need partners that know how to enforce control. Control is the only thing this govt knows.So get ready friends for this is going to be a long conflict,many lives will be lost,all so a few greedy souls can line their pockets and control the people

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Dude...
Posted by: aedwards on Oct 13, 2005 4:58 PM   
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If you believe this strongly about the issue do something abou it!!

A few suggestions:
1. Write a book. novels are the reason for many social-political reforms throughout history. Just make sure that everything you write holds up to the test of time.
2. call talk radio stations. even the ones that don't agree with you. The majority of people who listen to Air America already agree with you. Talk to the ones that don't agree with you.
3. write to newspapers. esspecially one that have conservative bias. make sure your arguements are solid.
4. Quit your job. If you don't want to support corporate america why are you working for them.

These are just a few suggestions. this is by no means a complete list.

If you decide to get into an debate with a conservative remeber that they stop listening when you start saying pre made phrases like "bush lied." If you can't think for yourself thier not going to think for you. Conservatives are not about big government, in fact they want complete freedom from arbitrary government interference. They believe that the way to achieve this is through capitalism and a free market. This is why they don't support any social goverment run programs such as universal health care and welfare. As many people on the conservative side of the field dislike GWB's policies as on the Liberal side. These are just a few things to keep in mind.

Get off the computer, go outside and do something constructive. Make a difference in the world. stop complaining about how bad you've got it and do something.

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» Well Said!!! Posted by: msentesy
Amazing Americans _ Did we forget?
Posted by: wildmanalso on Oct 14, 2005 4:35 AM   
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I am amazed at the so called intelligent people here that think our country's leaders are inept. There is only one priority for this country! I am sure that those that believe that are SO much smarter than the people who have the responsibility. So easy to sit back and be a Monday morning quarterback.... What will you say or think when these murdering islamic thugs kill thousands in your hometown?? Don't be naive if you think they are not planning it right now.......with possibly a nuclear dirty bomb.
As I said in a previous note, I guess some people won't be satisfied until we are attacked again in this country....Did some of you forget how you felt on September 11, 2001? When these sick islamic Facists attacked our country? or when the videos were released of their beheadings of whomever they captured? The only way to stop the madness, is to lock down our borders , expel all non-native Muslims and provide the world the ultimatum: "Kill the sick terrorists that originate in your countries or suffer the consequences of total eradication." I for one, prefer the fight to occur outside of this country versus within our borders.

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» National Security Posted by: msentesy
Yeah?
Posted by: airtank on Oct 17, 2005 10:13 AM   
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You say at the top of the article, that the President's speech was a "sorry attempt" to sway the "skeptical public" about whether our troops should stay or go. I am going to argue that the public is not skeptical; it is simply divided.

According to a Princeton Survey Research Associates International poll taken between July 2004 and the present, 53% of the polled believe that we should stay in Iraq until the job is done (42% were for bringing the boys home, 5% were undecided). According to a CBS News poll taken between November 2004 and August 2005, 49% were for staying (44% were for bringing them home, just under 7% were undecided). If the public was truly undecided, the "unsure" and "undecided" fields would range well into the double-digits, instead of the single digits, where they are now.

Numbers from two major news outlets will point you toward the same conclusion: Americans are more for "staying the course" in Iraq than they are for pulling the troops out ASAP.

(Poll numbers from pollingreport.com)

Katrina Adang.

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