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Citing "National Defense Needs," Obama Administration Says it Won't Sign Ban on Land Mines

Stephen Goose, director of Human Rights Watch's arms division, called the decision to keep the Bush-era policy "an appalling decision."
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The Obama administration decided not to sign an international convention banning land mines. In response to a question about an upcoming review conference on the mind ban treaty, said DeParle spokesman Ian Kelly said Tuesday that the administration recently completed a review and decided not to change the Bush-era policy.

IAN KELLY: This administration undertook a policy review and we decided our landmine policy remains in effect.

REPORTER: Why?

*IAN KELLY Why?

REPORTER: I think we're one of only two nations, and Somalia is about to sign it, right? So we are going to be the only nation in the whole world who doesn't believe in banning landmines. Why is that?

*IAN KELLY: I'm not sure about that. We made our policy review and we determined we would not be able to meet our national defense needs, nor our security commitments to our friends and allies if we sign this.

REPORTER #2: So what are you planning to do at the conference then?

IAN KELLY: We are there as ... an observer. Clearly, we have ... as a global provider of security we have an interest in the discussions there, but we will be there as an observer, obviously, because we haven’t signed the convention, nor do we plan to sign the convention.

AMY GOODMAN: This is the first time the Obama administration has publicly disclosed his decision on the treaty which bans the use, stockpiling, production or transfer of antipersonnel mines. 156 countries have ratified the treaty, but 39 others including the U.S., Russia and China have not. The report this month of international campaign to ban landmines found that mines remain planted in more than 70 countries and killed over 1,200 people and wounded nearly 4000 last year. For more on the U.S. position on landmines and what to expect from the summit in Colombia next month, I am joined in Washington, D.C. by Stephen Goose, director of the Human Rights Watch's Arms division and co-founder of the international campaign to ban landmines, which received the 1997 Nobel Peace Prize. Stephen welcome to Democracy Now! Your reaction to the Obama administration's decision to follow the Bush administration and not sign onto this treaty?

STEPHEN GOOSE: We really see this as just an appalling decision, an appalling decision that has been based on apparently very flawed decision-making process. It is a decision completely lacking in vision, its lacking in compassion, and frankly lacking in common sense. It shows a lack of political leadership by President Obama on what many, most others see as a crucial global humanitarian issue.

AMY GOODMAN: Explain exactly how this happened, what was your expectation when President Obama took office? And this latest question raised, in asking the Obama ministration that even Somalia will be signing on, and the response of the Obama administration that this is their commitment to their friends and allies, presumably all of them have signed the treaty?

STEPHEN GOOSE: Well, that was a very confused response and exchange the we just heard at the State Department. Clearly, the State Department spokesperson is not at all familiar with the issue. The questioner and his response were based on the Convention on the Rights of the Child, where the U.S. in Somalia are the only two who have not signed that. But, indeed, most of the countries of the world have joined this mine ban treaty and virtually all of the major U.S. allies have done so. Every other NATO country is part of the mine ban treaty. The process that led to this is just an enigma. In essence, this was a stealth-review done in secrecy. So much for the Obama administration emphasis on transparency. They had never even announced a review was under way of land mine policy, and we Human Rights Watch and other non-governmental organizations and some key legislators like Senator Patrick Leahy have been encouraging them, urging them and begging them to undertake a formal review, but they never announced such a process was underway. And then suddenly and a sort of off-the-cuff response to a question yesterday, they say a review has already been completed and they decided to align themselves with the Bush policy of never joining the convention. In fact, the U.S. is the only country that has said it will never join the convention. Even others like Russia and China said it will eventually join.


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Add It To The List ...
Posted by: mmckinl on Nov 26, 2009 1:23 AM   
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... of Obama policy and appointment betrayals ...

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Obama calling for austerity by the government at the same time...
Posted by: Prinzowhales on Nov 26, 2009 5:47 AM   
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...he calls for 34,000 more troops for the Afghanistan War costing a million each to maintain a year and gives trillions to the financiers. Of course, this smiley-faced monster is following the blood-soaked trail of his predecessor on the Patriot Act and all the instruments of war piggery that his backers at Goldman Sux, Blum Capital and General Dynamics could possibly profit from. (The industry profits from mine detection and the protection from mines is an even bigger business than actual mine production, I think...and to justify the latter, you need the former. Where would the cancer industry be without cancer?)

Why are there still Democrats and Republicans in America?

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Looks to me like the same old same old
Posted by: leland61 on Nov 26, 2009 6:01 AM   
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So this guy, Obama, is 1/2 black - or whatever. WTF cares? He is acting just like any other moron who has held the presidency for years.

He is allowing the military to set policy. This tail wagging the dog crap needs to stop. Or is he afraid that they will "take him out" if he gets too far out of line with the military industrial complex? I would be.

We have a country run by rapacious thugs and their shills in Congress and in the Senate. Sort of reminds me of something....... let's see now - where did I see this?............

O!! Here it is: "That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness."

I wonder who dreamed that one up?

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wtf?
Posted by: fma7 on Nov 26, 2009 7:13 AM   
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Israel dropped shit loads of cluster bombs in its last invasion of Lebanon and just after an agreement had beem reached to end the hostilities. Usa used cluster bombs in Iraq. Shit loads of unexploaded cluster bombs are left lying around after being dropped, this is a characteristic of their use. This report is bullshit.

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NK Border and fear of liability lawsuits
Posted by: LeonBNJ on Nov 26, 2009 7:20 AM   
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To me there may be 2 factors at play here.

One is that we have a huge number of mines at the border of North Korea and South Korea. We still want them there due the potential of an attack by NK into SK, to be a major deterrant and firewall.

Second is a fear of liability. If we finally admit to a ban, our system of justice and International Courts could put the USA at a huge position of costly liability. We put in 1000's of mines in SE Asia during the Vietnam war, we sold millions of mines all over the world. Victims could try to sue in the USA Federal Courts for damages against the USA Government or could try to bring war crime charges against the USA in International tribuals. No President wants to take that political risk.

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I've seen documentaries revealing that land minds typically end up blowing limbs off innocent kids
Posted by: JohnTruth2001 on Nov 26, 2009 8:05 AM   
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years after they're planted!

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IMPORTANT TO LEAVE A CALLING CARD
Posted by: VZEQICVA on Nov 26, 2009 8:49 AM   
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So ten years after a war has ended some kid takes a short cut through a field to get to a friends house and steps on one of these things and gets blown to pieces. The shameful part of it is that there is no question about how it got there. It's the American calling card. It ain't even over when it's over! ANNA

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I understand
Posted by: badkitty on Nov 26, 2009 8:59 AM   
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I understand that they are now re-reviewing this atrocious policy. Aren't there still a lot of land mines in Afghanistan? Couldn't they be a possible danger to our troops? If this decision stands, it will be the second worst policy decision of the Obama administration, if he sends more troops to Afghanistan.

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But won't our President get booed in Sweden at Noble ceremony
Posted by: plantland on Nov 26, 2009 4:19 PM   
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Since the International Campaign to an Landmines was awarded the Noble Peace Prize in 1997, won't it be disastrous for President Obabma to go in person to pick up the Peace Prize.

If we are sending troops to Afghanistan to save face for him vis a vis conservatives calling him a wuss here, would the administration not also want to save face over landmines and the Noble Prize?

Maybe Sidwell Friends School where his daughters get to go and the Swedish academy and population can put pressure on him - on both landmines and the Afghan Occupation.

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morgan1
Posted by: morgan1 on Nov 27, 2009 2:49 AM   
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It has become clear no one reads these briefs, papers, bills--Whoever is first in line at the "talking points" table, who has the ear of the President, gets his way and all the President does is nod and go along, "Great--Next..." Their day is filled with photo ops, talk shows, golf, lobbyists dinners and luncheons to read anything...That is, if they can read. This is a sad commentary on our government and our "elected" officials.

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Terror Multiplier
Posted by: Revolutionary (Direct) Democracy on Nov 27, 2009 2:53 AM   
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Land mines enable fewer American taxpayers to murder more non-white, non-Christians.


FREE AMERICA

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Ok, someone is lying. Either Obama or the Peace Prize Commission.
Posted by: Nitestallion on Nov 27, 2009 4:39 AM   
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Hmmm, nope make that both are lying. Obama because he knew someone bought the Commission and because the commission could not continue to award in this country unless they gave him one.

Why would I say such an awful thing? AFGHANISTAN! He attacked Afghanistan! He said he was going to just about a week before he was elected. THAT is a peaceful act? Well, kiss my backside and call me Jack Mule. Peaceful! This is like fornicating for Jesus and calling it chastity!

Formerly on this planet one had to do something to EARN a peace prize. Until the last election I was a practicing Democrat. But THIS!? Got dandruff and some of it itches. Kiss that president and summon a bitch! This man has halitosis of the soul something awful folks. He also said he would impeach Bush and Cheney. When is that going to happen? Not soon and you can bet your sweet Posterior that I will apologize to him personally if he does, but that ain’t going to happen.

This man has caught the chicken droppings disease. There is no truth in him. Get wise and start impeachment proceedings now before he gets a notion to decimate the globe! He has turned into a Bush look alike so quick it made my head spin.

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I know I shouldn't....but...
Posted by: Captainmagic on Nov 27, 2009 4:39 AM   
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Really the only way you are going to get all the landmines removed...according to your congress...is by putting your foot down.

Sorry.

Mine methodology in a civilized army would see every single field tagged.

Too many just couldn't give a flying F@#K about any consequences.

Please don't anyone forget about depleted uranium munitions.

At least the Iraqi's and the Afghans show some respect and only use precision activated IED/EFP munitions....and they do twice as much protection work with such devices..you gotta give it to them, when they comprehensively give it to you!!!

Captain OUT

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The Demopublican Liars' Club...
Posted by: Prinzowhales on Nov 27, 2009 4:59 AM   
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They have done nothing but tax and spend as the Republican half likes to say of the Democratic half...but they've spent on their paymasters--the plutocrats. The people get little or nothing for their contribution to what little there is of a commonweal today.

Obama has betrayed us on land mines, war, lobbyists, bailouts and now his climate czarina Carol Browne(nose), is keeping her snout firmly pressed between the buttocks of the "obese fascist", Al Gore, as he leads his Climate Cavalcade down the Liar's Express. Obama's Climate Whore is ignoring the devastating leadked e-mails that put the nails in the coffin of 'global warming' and maintaining the fraud of global warming just as Bush and friends kept the fraud of Iraqi WMDs going--even unto today--among the daftest of the true believers of the Republican herd.

The Demopublican liars do so need to continue the fraud to legitimize Fat Al and friends pay day that will come through Cap and Trade. Therefore science be damned...lies be unleashed and the Americans be left in a sea of ignorance by the cowardly, lying dogs of the Global Warming Establishment safely ensconced in their tenured slots in academe... while Fat Al gets his exercise running from WE ARE CHANGE-CHICAGO at a Chicago book signing where he was foisting his lies on the dunderheads of Obama-ville. Now we must wonder just what the No-balls Committee saw in Gore to justify his Prize, which like Kissingers and Obamas stands as a monument to the vile nature of the recipient...dollar signs perhaps?

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Appalling, but worse
Posted by: vkobaya1 on Nov 27, 2009 6:42 AM   
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Who is running things in the Oval Office? Obama is not Bush, yet what is coming out of the White House is no different than if the all time worst president in our history, the cockroach that occupied the Oval Office chair were still sitting in that chair. I despise Obama, but this decision goes beyond my lowest opinion of Obama. He is not in charge. Whoever is making these decisions is not the man we elected to be our president. Obama is just a figurehead.

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Brain Surgery Is Available
Posted by: melpol on Nov 27, 2009 6:52 AM   
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The mental illness called OCD has now gone political. Those that are most affected imagine that they are wealthy and independent of government assistance. There is help on the horizon. A surgical procedure called cingulotomy has cured hundreds. Doctors drill deep into the skull and thread wires into an area called the anterior cingulate. It connects to emotional centers of the brain where political choices are made. The surgery can be recommended by the courts for those that express violent views.

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A Real "Patriot"
Posted by: QQOblivion on Nov 27, 2009 8:29 AM   
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Consider also the story from recently about Obama and Congress keeping the "Patriot" Act almost completely intact. (That story was buried in "rights and liberties". I wish it was on the front page of Alternet instead.)

Consider the Afghanistan escalation too. Then the land-mine story. And that is just what we know about from the last 2 days.

Obama, YOU've changed... into Bush.

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and
Posted by: tazdelaney on Nov 27, 2009 10:57 AM   
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let's see, obamabush's 'defense' budget is 12% higher than 2008. and on top of that, the extrabudgetal war funding. and in 2005-6 the US defense budget passed the total defense spending of the entire rest of the planet earth's nations combined. and above that figure are the 'defense-related' expenditures, including HSD; some 18 other intelligence or secretive agencies;military aspects of other agencies like NASA; veterans administration... all of which combined brings the total defense and defense-related budgets to about a trillion a year.

the US has 15x more nukes than needed to take the world out; massive arsenal of CBWs and who knows what sorts of other weapons systems, (some 65 weapons projects in R&D at present.) some 33 million child-targeting clusterbomb fragments dot the planet, including over 3 million in maryland-sized lebanon. and while the US census bureau states that 5879 people on earth died in terrorist incidents in the 20th century; 162 million died inwars and an estimated 30,000 laotians died from that massive US mining operation, AFTER THE WAR WAS OVER. but the new nazis 'just say no' to nuremberg trials on themselves.

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Four Fingers And A Thumb
Posted by: melpol on Nov 27, 2009 6:11 PM   
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Without anybody to fight a boxer will have to wash cars to earn a living. It is the same with workers in the defense industry, they have to find somebody to fight or they will be preparing burgers in a fast food restaurant. Capturing and killing the ghost of al-Qaeda is a pursuit that is endless. Millions of imagined enemies will die because women in America must be wined and dined. Darwin was right, he observed that life is a bloody battle for good sex. His wisdom was based on the fact that Mother Nature rewards the victor with an irresistible vagina, and the loser is left with four fingers and a thumb.

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Well, we damned-sure wouldn't want to lose our edge!
Posted by: moloko velocet on Nov 27, 2009 6:49 PM   
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...claymores, bouncing betties, depleted uranium-enriched weapons, particle-beam weapons, heat rays, vomit rays, microwave death rays, neuro-sonic rays, etc....whatever would we have left for us to use (comes the revolution) on our own citizenry (the proletariat), if we gave all these up for the sake of "whirled peas"?

That's what we call "National Security"!

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makaainana
Posted by: Makaainana on Nov 28, 2009 9:51 AM   
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Bush + Obama = Obush

The military has Obush totally intimidated.

He could have been a great President.

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Add It To The List ...
Posted by: mmckinl on Nov 26, 2009 1:23 AM   
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... of Obama policy and appointment betrayals ...

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Obama calling for austerity by the government at the same time...
Posted by: Prinzowhales on Nov 26, 2009 5:47 AM   
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...he calls for 34,000 more troops for the Afghanistan War costing a million each to maintain a year and gives trillions to the financiers. Of course, this smiley-faced monster is following the blood-soaked trail of his predecessor on the Patriot Act and all the instruments of war piggery that his backers at Goldman Sux, Blum Capital and General Dynamics could possibly profit from. (The industry profits from mine detection and the protection from mines is an even bigger business than actual mine production, I think...and to justify the latter, you need the former. Where would the cancer industry be without cancer?)

Why are there still Democrats and Republicans in America?

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Looks to me like the same old same old
Posted by: leland61 on Nov 26, 2009 6:01 AM   
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So this guy, Obama, is 1/2 black - or whatever. WTF cares? He is acting just like any other moron who has held the presidency for years.

He is allowing the military to set policy. This tail wagging the dog crap needs to stop. Or is he afraid that they will "take him out" if he gets too far out of line with the military industrial complex? I would be.

We have a country run by rapacious thugs and their shills in Congress and in the Senate. Sort of reminds me of something....... let's see now - where did I see this?............

O!! Here it is: "That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness."

I wonder who dreamed that one up?

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wtf?
Posted by: fma7 on Nov 26, 2009 7:13 AM   
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Israel dropped shit loads of cluster bombs in its last invasion of Lebanon and just after an agreement had beem reached to end the hostilities. Usa used cluster bombs in Iraq. Shit loads of unexploaded cluster bombs are left lying around after being dropped, this is a characteristic of their use. This report is bullshit.

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NK Border and fear of liability lawsuits
Posted by: LeonBNJ on Nov 26, 2009 7:20 AM   
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To me there may be 2 factors at play here.

One is that we have a huge number of mines at the border of North Korea and South Korea. We still want them there due the potential of an attack by NK into SK, to be a major deterrant and firewall.

Second is a fear of liability. If we finally admit to a ban, our system of justice and International Courts could put the USA at a huge position of costly liability. We put in 1000's of mines in SE Asia during the Vietnam war, we sold millions of mines all over the world. Victims could try to sue in the USA Federal Courts for damages against the USA Government or could try to bring war crime charges against the USA in International tribuals. No President wants to take that political risk.

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I've seen documentaries revealing that land minds typically end up blowing limbs off innocent kids
Posted by: JohnTruth2001 on Nov 26, 2009 8:05 AM   
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years after they're planted!

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IMPORTANT TO LEAVE A CALLING CARD
Posted by: VZEQICVA on Nov 26, 2009 8:49 AM   
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So ten years after a war has ended some kid takes a short cut through a field to get to a friends house and steps on one of these things and gets blown to pieces. The shameful part of it is that there is no question about how it got there. It's the American calling card. It ain't even over when it's over! ANNA

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I understand
Posted by: badkitty on Nov 26, 2009 8:59 AM   
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I understand that they are now re-reviewing this atrocious policy. Aren't there still a lot of land mines in Afghanistan? Couldn't they be a possible danger to our troops? If this decision stands, it will be the second worst policy decision of the Obama administration, if he sends more troops to Afghanistan.

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But won't our President get booed in Sweden at Noble ceremony
Posted by: plantland on Nov 26, 2009 4:19 PM   
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Since the International Campaign to an Landmines was awarded the Noble Peace Prize in 1997, won't it be disastrous for President Obabma to go in person to pick up the Peace Prize.

If we are sending troops to Afghanistan to save face for him vis a vis conservatives calling him a wuss here, would the administration not also want to save face over landmines and the Noble Prize?

Maybe Sidwell Friends School where his daughters get to go and the Swedish academy and population can put pressure on him - on both landmines and the Afghan Occupation.

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morgan1
Posted by: morgan1 on Nov 27, 2009 2:49 AM   
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It has become clear no one reads these briefs, papers, bills--Whoever is first in line at the "talking points" table, who has the ear of the President, gets his way and all the President does is nod and go along, "Great--Next..." Their day is filled with photo ops, talk shows, golf, lobbyists dinners and luncheons to read anything...That is, if they can read. This is a sad commentary on our government and our "elected" officials.

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Terror Multiplier
Posted by: Revolutionary (Direct) Democracy on Nov 27, 2009 2:53 AM   
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Land mines enable fewer American taxpayers to murder more non-white, non-Christians.


FREE AMERICA

REVOLUTIONARY (DIRECT) DEMOCRACY

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Ok, someone is lying. Either Obama or the Peace Prize Commission.
Posted by: Nitestallion on Nov 27, 2009 4:39 AM   
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Hmmm, nope make that both are lying. Obama because he knew someone bought the Commission and because the commission could not continue to award in this country unless they gave him one.

Why would I say such an awful thing? AFGHANISTAN! He attacked Afghanistan! He said he was going to just about a week before he was elected. THAT is a peaceful act? Well, kiss my backside and call me Jack Mule. Peaceful! This is like fornicating for Jesus and calling it chastity!

Formerly on this planet one had to do something to EARN a peace prize. Until the last election I was a practicing Democrat. But THIS!? Got dandruff and some of it itches. Kiss that president and summon a bitch! This man has halitosis of the soul something awful folks. He also said he would impeach Bush and Cheney. When is that going to happen? Not soon and you can bet your sweet Posterior that I will apologize to him personally if he does, but that ain’t going to happen.

This man has caught the chicken droppings disease. There is no truth in him. Get wise and start impeachment proceedings now before he gets a notion to decimate the globe! He has turned into a Bush look alike so quick it made my head spin.

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I know I shouldn't....but...
Posted by: Captainmagic on Nov 27, 2009 4:39 AM   
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Really the only way you are going to get all the landmines removed...according to your congress...is by putting your foot down.

Sorry.

Mine methodology in a civilized army would see every single field tagged.

Too many just couldn't give a flying F@#K about any consequences.

Please don't anyone forget about depleted uranium munitions.

At least the Iraqi's and the Afghans show some respect and only use precision activated IED/EFP munitions....and they do twice as much protection work with such devices..you gotta give it to them, when they comprehensively give it to you!!!

Captain OUT

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The Demopublican Liars' Club...
Posted by: Prinzowhales on Nov 27, 2009 4:59 AM   
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They have done nothing but tax and spend as the Republican half likes to say of the Democratic half...but they've spent on their paymasters--the plutocrats. The people get little or nothing for their contribution to what little there is of a commonweal today.

Obama has betrayed us on land mines, war, lobbyists, bailouts and now his climate czarina Carol Browne(nose), is keeping her snout firmly pressed between the buttocks of the "obese fascist", Al Gore, as he leads his Climate Cavalcade down the Liar's Express. Obama's Climate Whore is ignoring the devastating leadked e-mails that put the nails in the coffin of 'global warming' and maintaining the fraud of global warming just as Bush and friends kept the fraud of Iraqi WMDs going--even unto today--among the daftest of the true believers of the Republican herd.

The Demopublican liars do so need to continue the fraud to legitimize Fat Al and friends pay day that will come through Cap and Trade. Therefore science be damned...lies be unleashed and the Americans be left in a sea of ignorance by the cowardly, lying dogs of the Global Warming Establishment safely ensconced in their tenured slots in academe... while Fat Al gets his exercise running from WE ARE CHANGE-CHICAGO at a Chicago book signing where he was foisting his lies on the dunderheads of Obama-ville. Now we must wonder just what the No-balls Committee saw in Gore to justify his Prize, which like Kissingers and Obamas stands as a monument to the vile nature of the recipient...dollar signs perhaps?

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Appalling, but worse
Posted by: vkobaya1 on Nov 27, 2009 6:42 AM   
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Who is running things in the Oval Office? Obama is not Bush, yet what is coming out of the White House is no different than if the all time worst president in our history, the cockroach that occupied the Oval Office chair were still sitting in that chair. I despise Obama, but this decision goes beyond my lowest opinion of Obama. He is not in charge. Whoever is making these decisions is not the man we elected to be our president. Obama is just a figurehead.

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Brain Surgery Is Available
Posted by: melpol on Nov 27, 2009 6:52 AM   
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The mental illness called OCD has now gone political. Those that are most affected imagine that they are wealthy and independent of government assistance. There is help on the horizon. A surgical procedure called cingulotomy has cured hundreds. Doctors drill deep into the skull and thread wires into an area called the anterior cingulate. It connects to emotional centers of the brain where political choices are made. The surgery can be recommended by the courts for those that express violent views.

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A Real "Patriot"
Posted by: QQOblivion on Nov 27, 2009 8:29 AM   
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Consider also the story from recently about Obama and Congress keeping the "Patriot" Act almost completely intact. (That story was buried in "rights and liberties". I wish it was on the front page of Alternet instead.)

Consider the Afghanistan escalation too. Then the land-mine story. And that is just what we know about from the last 2 days.

Obama, YOU've changed... into Bush.

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and
Posted by: tazdelaney on Nov 27, 2009 10:57 AM   
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let's see, obamabush's 'defense' budget is 12% higher than 2008. and on top of that, the extrabudgetal war funding. and in 2005-6 the US defense budget passed the total defense spending of the entire rest of the planet earth's nations combined. and above that figure are the 'defense-related' expenditures, including HSD; some 18 other intelligence or secretive agencies;military aspects of other agencies like NASA; veterans administration... all of which combined brings the total defense and defense-related budgets to about a trillion a year.

the US has 15x more nukes than needed to take the world out; massive arsenal of CBWs and who knows what sorts of other weapons systems, (some 65 weapons projects in R&D at present.) some 33 million child-targeting clusterbomb fragments dot the planet, including over 3 million in maryland-sized lebanon. and while the US census bureau states that 5879 people on earth died in terrorist incidents in the 20th century; 162 million died inwars and an estimated 30,000 laotians died from that massive US mining operation, AFTER THE WAR WAS OVER. but the new nazis 'just say no' to nuremberg trials on themselves.

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Four Fingers And A Thumb
Posted by: melpol on Nov 27, 2009 6:11 PM   
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Without anybody to fight a boxer will have to wash cars to earn a living. It is the same with workers in the defense industry, they have to find somebody to fight or they will be preparing burgers in a fast food restaurant. Capturing and killing the ghost of al-Qaeda is a pursuit that is endless. Millions of imagined enemies will die because women in America must be wined and dined. Darwin was right, he observed that life is a bloody battle for good sex. His wisdom was based on the fact that Mother Nature rewards the victor with an irresistible vagina, and the loser is left with four fingers and a thumb.

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Well, we damned-sure wouldn't want to lose our edge!
Posted by: moloko velocet on Nov 27, 2009 6:49 PM   
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...claymores, bouncing betties, depleted uranium-enriched weapons, particle-beam weapons, heat rays, vomit rays, microwave death rays, neuro-sonic rays, etc....whatever would we have left for us to use (comes the revolution) on our own citizenry (the proletariat), if we gave all these up for the sake of "whirled peas"?

That's what we call "National Security"!

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makaainana
Posted by: Makaainana on Nov 28, 2009 9:51 AM   
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Bush + Obama = Obush

The military has Obush totally intimidated.

He could have been a great President.

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