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Why Are We Locking Up Traumatized Veterans for Their Addictions Instead of Offering Them Treatment?
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A new report by the Drug Policy Alliance exposes practices and policies that for decades have unjustly resulted in large numbers of psychically injured and addicted veterans landing in U.S. prisons and jails.
The report reflects a year's worth of outreach to veterans and veterans' advocates across the country and a distillation of their most creative, innovative and optimistic responses to the problem.
Gen. Steven Xenakis, M.D., special adviser to the Joint Chiefs of Staff for warrior and family support, brought a message of official support to a teleconference announcing the release of the report:
"250,000 soldiers is a large number of soldiers, Marines, sailors and airmen who have been affected," he said. "It is so important that people are made aware of the issues and that we follow up with the best action plans we can find. … We in this country have a responsibility to assist and support them."
The report recommends changes in state and federal statutes that now prioritize punishment over treatment for veterans who commit nonviolent drug-related offenses as a result of their addictions and other mental health issues.
"Courts, as a way of dealing with large numbers of people with substance-abuse problems, are a very slow and expensive way to go," Dan Abrahamson, the Drug Policy Alliance's director of legal affairs, explained. "You need a courtroom and a judge and all the players, from prosecutors to defense attorneys. Providing treatment straight up requires far fewer resources and far less investment for far greater returns."
The report also calls for the adoption of overdose-prevention programs and the expansion of veterans' access to medication-assisted therapies to treat opioid dependence.
Overdose is an ongoing problem among veterans, as are other self-destructive behaviors that inflate the official and unofficial tally of suicides among active-duty troops and veterans. (Veterans, often compromised by alcohol or drugs, are an astonishing 148 percent more likely to die in a motorcycle crash than civilians of comparable age, race and sex.)
Guy Gambill, a longtime veterans advocate who was instrumental in shaping the report, reminded the teleconference participants that "one of the hallmark symptoms of PTSD is the tendency to self-medicate."
"In the aftermath of Vietnam, self-medication and its collateral behaviors landed tens of thousands of veterans in prison," Gambill said. "This time, let's be smarter than the problem."
Gambill is a veteran of nuclear duty forces in Europe and of President Ronald Reagan's South American military ventures. He makes no secret of the fact that he has done time in jail and under bridges, kicked a serious drug habit and managed to live with the mental-health issues that are a result of his service.
For the last decade, his firsthand experiences have fed his efforts to promote the diversion of veterans from incarceration into treatment, and he is convinced that finding ways to deal with addictions is a key part of that effort.
"We are not going to let murderers off the hook, or sex offenders. We're not going to let people who have 16 aggravated DUIs and killed somebody, off the hook. Those guys aren't getting out of jail any time soon.
"So who do we have room to help? People with drug-offense charges.In cases where a veteran has combat-related psychological trauma and nonviolent drug offenses, there is a lot of political will to give these guys a break."
A great litmus test for that political will would be the immediate repeal of the 2002 Veterans Administration directive barring treatment for incarcerated veterans. This almost incomprehensibly myopic policy is, as the report states, "a missed opportunity for the VA to provide critical services and support for veterans to recover from the psychological wounds that caused their criminal activity in the first place."
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Posted by: Lese Majeste on Nov 11, 2009 3:47 AM
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Our government kills and maims our own troops and for what? To catch a dead man, Bin Laden? Or to keep that drug money from Afghan poppy fields flowing into Wall Street banks and to position American bases around the Caspian Basin so we can steal their oil and natural gas and to surround Israel's 'existential' enemy, Iran with American forces.
That's the real reasons we're stuck in Iraq and Afghanistan.
Want to actually show some respect for the vets on Veterans Day?
BRING THEM HOME, NOW!
Or maybe the Congress and WH can lead by example by immediately sending ALL of their kids of fighting age into the Army Airborne or Marine Recon Forces, NOW.
And that draft-dodging war pig, GW Bush, can personally enlist and then insist his two daughters get sent to a hot combat zone.
‘X-File’ Vet May Be Link to Burn-Pit Truth by Kelley B. Vlahos Yesterday, Edward Adams was an X-File, but tomorrow he might be the critical link between the toxic plumes rising recklessly from U.S. Army installations in the war zone and the growing number of veterans crippled by unexplained nerve, heart, and respiratory damage back home.
That’s because unlike any other known case, according to advocates, Adams was recently told by a board of military doctors at Tripler Army Medical Center in Hawaii that his health anomalies – including the appearance of countless holes or "cysts" riddling the tissue around his lungs and an aorta that has shrunk to half its normal size in three months – "probably is related to the exposure to burn pits in Iraq."
This is coming at a time when the Pentagon has so far maintained there are "no significant short or long-term health risks" from the massive burn pits in Iraq and Afghanistan, which incinerate, in open air, everything from medical waste to plastics, dining hall trash, rubber, lithium batteries, petroleum products, and hardware, causing a noxious, jet-black plume and huge clouds over the area.
Describing the smell from the ominous pit at Camp Speicher where he was stationed as "just horrendous," he said he wasn’t the only one experiencing problems in his unit, but their queries about a possible connection to the black dragon went unanswered, even hastily dismissed, by base doctors. It wasn’t until doctors at Tripler Hospital began looking into his case that the grim consequences began to emerge.
After an MRI was scheduled to determine what exactly was causing Adams’ breathing problems, which got worse, not better, after returning home, his doctors called him immediately. "They told me my lungs were filled with hundreds of tiny holes," Adams said. "It looked completely different from anything they’ve ever seen before."
Maybe they'll get some relief from the courts, but don't hold your breath.... if you can still breathe.
The US companies being sued are KBR and Halliburton, who have a VERY cozy relationship with the Pentagon, Congress and the WH, so don't look for much, if anything, to come out of this lawsuit.
Military contractors sued over Iraq 'burn pits'
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Many Vets suffering from PTSD have chronic pain and others problems as well and Cannabis has been found to uniquely be suited to successful treatment. It decreases the need for BIG Pharma opiates and opioids.
Often "just talking out the problem" does not help VETS to sleep, relax or have pain relief or FORGET THE WAR TRAUMA !!!!
VETS with pain issues are forced to sign "pain contracts" which require drug tests. If a chronic pain patient tests positive for MJ his/her pain meds are discontinued. Suicide or alcohol related arrests often result.
Recent Haifa Study finds MJ reduces PTSD.
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By saving this money they are again able to promise the sky to the next patriots in line who want to serve their country but only end up serving in big business and their money making machine of perpetual war and wars plural. Anytime that corporations and our military can write some expense off they will and in fact have persons on the payroll which do just that.
Who cares about a vet when share holders in this big machine must be satiated above all other considerations and beyond what is moral.
My hat is off to all the vets out there who thought they were really serving their country. Blackwater personnel get a much better deal and they can quit when they want without all the fuss.
Patriotism these days is just another way of getting cheap labor, to do what they would never normally do under different circumstances, for so little cost and so much profit.
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Simple. Because that is what puritanical authoritarian societies do to their people.
America is a nation run by a-holes. Always has been and always will be.
Get used to it.
The constitution and Bill of Rights mean nothing. they are weapons used in foreign policy but have no meaning in American domestic policy. Propaganda and nothing more. Empty bullshit and propaganda.
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Veterans, those who are already used up are put into prison, while arch criminals who steal hundreds of billions of dollars from us, then get even MORE money, compliments of Uncle Sucker, do it all in broad daylight, and, of, course, get off scot-free.
How long are our people going to tolerate this grotesque, upside-down bullshit?
Forever, it seems.
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Fuck you Bill O'Reilly...you piece of lying shit.
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Posted by: Ian MacLeod on Nov 15, 2009 7:42 PM
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Because first, if you want to keep your option open of turning a republic into an unregulated totalitarian corporate paradise, the last thing you need is a bunch of healthy, well-trained patriots sworn to defend the old constitution wandering around loose. Second, because they are more profitable in prisons. The prison industry, an obscenity, trades on the NASDAQ, and like all other industries now they operate on the principle of infinite expansion, an excellent way to destroy a finite system. Prisons get so much in federal funding for every prisoner they warehouse, and it keeps those vets hurt and untreated, so recidivism and the income generated by it is guaranteed, and those vets are kept out of the way politically.
Second, how many of those vets, unable to find treatment in the VA system (like me, I'll add here) are self-medicating for chronic pain, which is caused by non-treatment or under-treatment of acute pain? They are all assumed to be addicts, but I'd bet those who retained the habit of opiate use after their return are in pain. Picket, a commenter above, touched on this but didn't go far enough.
Chronic pain patients are being driven from clinics and doctor's offices by the out of control DEA/DOJ attacks on docs and pain patients. They ignore the law, the medical standard of care (what the textbooks say to do), and railroad doctors into prison, once without even specifying a crime! Doctors then refuse to treat pain in self-defense. The government's own studies show prescription street opiates don't come from pain patients or doctors, they're being stolen from pharmacies, warehouses and such. Still, pain patients are treated like addicts and criminals. I was forced from the VA when they destroyed the regimen that had allowed me to function for eight years right when my wife became bedridden in her terminal illness. I was the only help she had. They knowingly, deliberately crippled me, then tried repeatedly to force me to come to the clinic - leaving my wife alone for hours when she was helpless - just for a piss test. I had to find a local doc, who gave me less than half of what I needed to function, and now, since my wife died in my arms this June (years earlier than she had to because of what they did to me!), I'm having a very hard time recovering physically, nevermind emotionally.
The government knows that after the troops came back from Vietnam, a lot of them had opiate habits. The government followed them, and almost ALL kicked the habit on their own once they were out of those intolerable circumstances. Keep them untreated though, and they can be shuffled in and out of the prison system. Remember Prop 8 in California? The prison guard's union contributed two and one-half MILLION dollars to defeat it. It would have meant the release of low-level offenders and fewer prisoners!
There are about 78 million untreated or under-treated CPPs in America. We are refused treatment in ERs, doctor's offices and pain clinics that refuse to use the world-wide Gold Standard for pain, the safest and most effective drugs known: opiates. NSAIDs kill about 16,000 a year; other drugs and procedures cause more damage for temporary or no benefits to anyone but the doctors. Many are driven to buy street drugs, and many are in prison with their doctors. It's a big industry. We're too valuable as prisoners and targets for Drug Warriors; we provide a "reason" for their tens of billions in funding and their increasing, almost unaccountable power. That's the bottom line.
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Posted by: Lese Majeste on Nov 11, 2009 3:47 AM
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Our government kills and maims our own troops and for what? To catch a dead man, Bin Laden? Or to keep that drug money from Afghan poppy fields flowing into Wall Street banks and to position American bases around the Caspian Basin so we can steal their oil and natural gas and to surround Israel's 'existential' enemy, Iran with American forces.
That's the real reasons we're stuck in Iraq and Afghanistan.
Want to actually show some respect for the vets on Veterans Day?
BRING THEM HOME, NOW!
Or maybe the Congress and WH can lead by example by immediately sending ALL of their kids of fighting age into the Army Airborne or Marine Recon Forces, NOW.
And that draft-dodging war pig, GW Bush, can personally enlist and then insist his two daughters get sent to a hot combat zone.
‘X-File’ Vet May Be Link to Burn-Pit Truth by Kelley B. Vlahos Yesterday, Edward Adams was an X-File, but tomorrow he might be the critical link between the toxic plumes rising recklessly from U.S. Army installations in the war zone and the growing number of veterans crippled by unexplained nerve, heart, and respiratory damage back home.
That’s because unlike any other known case, according to advocates, Adams was recently told by a board of military doctors at Tripler Army Medical Center in Hawaii that his health anomalies – including the appearance of countless holes or "cysts" riddling the tissue around his lungs and an aorta that has shrunk to half its normal size in three months – "probably is related to the exposure to burn pits in Iraq."
This is coming at a time when the Pentagon has so far maintained there are "no significant short or long-term health risks" from the massive burn pits in Iraq and Afghanistan, which incinerate, in open air, everything from medical waste to plastics, dining hall trash, rubber, lithium batteries, petroleum products, and hardware, causing a noxious, jet-black plume and huge clouds over the area.
Describing the smell from the ominous pit at Camp Speicher where he was stationed as "just horrendous," he said he wasn’t the only one experiencing problems in his unit, but their queries about a possible connection to the black dragon went unanswered, even hastily dismissed, by base doctors. It wasn’t until doctors at Tripler Hospital began looking into his case that the grim consequences began to emerge.
After an MRI was scheduled to determine what exactly was causing Adams’ breathing problems, which got worse, not better, after returning home, his doctors called him immediately. "They told me my lungs were filled with hundreds of tiny holes," Adams said. "It looked completely different from anything they’ve ever seen before."
Maybe they'll get some relief from the courts, but don't hold your breath.... if you can still breathe.
The US companies being sued are KBR and Halliburton, who have a VERY cozy relationship with the Pentagon, Congress and the WH, so don't look for much, if anything, to come out of this lawsuit.
Military contractors sued over Iraq 'burn pits'
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Posted by: picket on Nov 11, 2009 7:12 AM
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Many Vets suffering from PTSD have chronic pain and others problems as well and Cannabis has been found to uniquely be suited to successful treatment. It decreases the need for BIG Pharma opiates and opioids.
Often "just talking out the problem" does not help VETS to sleep, relax or have pain relief or FORGET THE WAR TRAUMA !!!!
VETS with pain issues are forced to sign "pain contracts" which require drug tests. If a chronic pain patient tests positive for MJ his/her pain meds are discontinued. Suicide or alcohol related arrests often result.
Recent Haifa Study finds MJ reduces PTSD.
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Posted by: gimmie shelter on Nov 11, 2009 8:04 AM
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By saving this money they are again able to promise the sky to the next patriots in line who want to serve their country but only end up serving in big business and their money making machine of perpetual war and wars plural. Anytime that corporations and our military can write some expense off they will and in fact have persons on the payroll which do just that.
Who cares about a vet when share holders in this big machine must be satiated above all other considerations and beyond what is moral.
My hat is off to all the vets out there who thought they were really serving their country. Blackwater personnel get a much better deal and they can quit when they want without all the fuss.
Patriotism these days is just another way of getting cheap labor, to do what they would never normally do under different circumstances, for so little cost and so much profit.
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Simple. Because that is what puritanical authoritarian societies do to their people.
America is a nation run by a-holes. Always has been and always will be.
Get used to it.
The constitution and Bill of Rights mean nothing. they are weapons used in foreign policy but have no meaning in American domestic policy. Propaganda and nothing more. Empty bullshit and propaganda.
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Veterans, those who are already used up are put into prison, while arch criminals who steal hundreds of billions of dollars from us, then get even MORE money, compliments of Uncle Sucker, do it all in broad daylight, and, of, course, get off scot-free.
How long are our people going to tolerate this grotesque, upside-down bullshit?
Forever, it seems.
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Fuck you Bill O'Reilly...you piece of lying shit.
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Posted by: Ian MacLeod on Nov 15, 2009 7:42 PM
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Because first, if you want to keep your option open of turning a republic into an unregulated totalitarian corporate paradise, the last thing you need is a bunch of healthy, well-trained patriots sworn to defend the old constitution wandering around loose. Second, because they are more profitable in prisons. The prison industry, an obscenity, trades on the NASDAQ, and like all other industries now they operate on the principle of infinite expansion, an excellent way to destroy a finite system. Prisons get so much in federal funding for every prisoner they warehouse, and it keeps those vets hurt and untreated, so recidivism and the income generated by it is guaranteed, and those vets are kept out of the way politically.
Second, how many of those vets, unable to find treatment in the VA system (like me, I'll add here) are self-medicating for chronic pain, which is caused by non-treatment or under-treatment of acute pain? They are all assumed to be addicts, but I'd bet those who retained the habit of opiate use after their return are in pain. Picket, a commenter above, touched on this but didn't go far enough.
Chronic pain patients are being driven from clinics and doctor's offices by the out of control DEA/DOJ attacks on docs and pain patients. They ignore the law, the medical standard of care (what the textbooks say to do), and railroad doctors into prison, once without even specifying a crime! Doctors then refuse to treat pain in self-defense. The government's own studies show prescription street opiates don't come from pain patients or doctors, they're being stolen from pharmacies, warehouses and such. Still, pain patients are treated like addicts and criminals. I was forced from the VA when they destroyed the regimen that had allowed me to function for eight years right when my wife became bedridden in her terminal illness. I was the only help she had. They knowingly, deliberately crippled me, then tried repeatedly to force me to come to the clinic - leaving my wife alone for hours when she was helpless - just for a piss test. I had to find a local doc, who gave me less than half of what I needed to function, and now, since my wife died in my arms this June (years earlier than she had to because of what they did to me!), I'm having a very hard time recovering physically, nevermind emotionally.
The government knows that after the troops came back from Vietnam, a lot of them had opiate habits. The government followed them, and almost ALL kicked the habit on their own once they were out of those intolerable circumstances. Keep them untreated though, and they can be shuffled in and out of the prison system. Remember Prop 8 in California? The prison guard's union contributed two and one-half MILLION dollars to defeat it. It would have meant the release of low-level offenders and fewer prisoners!
There are about 78 million untreated or under-treated CPPs in America. We are refused treatment in ERs, doctor's offices and pain clinics that refuse to use the world-wide Gold Standard for pain, the safest and most effective drugs known: opiates. NSAIDs kill about 16,000 a year; other drugs and procedures cause more damage for temporary or no benefits to anyone but the doctors. Many are driven to buy street drugs, and many are in prison with their doctors. It's a big industry. We're too valuable as prisoners and targets for Drug Warriors; we provide a "reason" for their tens of billions in funding and their increasing, almost unaccountable power. That's the bottom line.
Ian MacLeod
Activist PRN, Nonprofit, Nonpartisan, 501(C)(3) Corporation.
http://painreliefnetwork.org/
Veteran, Disabled, CIPP 26 years
Illegitimis non carborundum!
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