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Claim: CIA Sent Prisoners Abroad to Be Boiled Alive and 'Raped with Broken Bottles'

By Daniel Tencer, Raw Story. Posted November 6, 2009.


Former British ambassador alleges CIA relied on intelligence based on torture in prisons in Uzbekistan.
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The CIA relied on intelligence based on torture in prisons in Uzbekistan, a place where widespread torture practices include raping suspects with broken bottles and boiling them alive, says a former British ambassador to the central Asian country.

Craig Murray, the rector of the University of Dundee in Scotland and until 2004 the UK's ambassador to Uzbekistan, said the CIA not only relied on confessions gleaned through extreme torture, it sent terror war suspects to Uzbekistan as part of its extraordinary rendition program.

"I'm talking of people being raped with broken bottles," he said at a lecture late last month that was re-broadcast by the Real News Network. "I'm talking of people having their children tortured in front of them until they sign a confession. I'm talking of people being boiled alive. And the intelligence from these torture sessions was being received by the CIA, and was being passed on."

Human rights groups have long been raising the alarm about the legal system in Uzbekistan. In 2007, Human Rights Watch declared that torture is "endemic" to the country's justice system.

Murray said he only realized after his stint as ambassador that the CIA was sending people to be tortured in Uzbekistan, country he describes as a "totalitarian" state that has never moved on from its communist era, when it was a part of the Soviet Union.

 
 
 

Former UK ambassador: CIA sent people to be ‘raped with broken bottles’

 
By Daniel Tencer
Wednesday, November 4th, 2009 -- 3:31 pm
 

 


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Many Right Wing Blogs and
Posted by: login@bugmenot.com on Nov 6, 2009 1:32 AM   
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mainstream newspaper comments are chalk full of racist, bigoted, hate filled slurs in response to today's incident at Ft. Hood.

Now, I'm not saying that this is the case, but, since the shooter was a psychiatrist who heard horror story after horror story such as this one, for example, is it not reasonable to conclude that psychological trauma could have caused him to snap? Is it not reasonable to conclude that his actions had nothing to do with that which many out there are implying, his alleged religion or ethnic background?

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» RE: Many Reasons To Snap... Posted by: gazooks
RE: adfasdf
Posted by: login@bugmenot.com on Nov 6, 2009 2:13 AM   
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Must you lace your posts with spam? Is that really appropriate? C'mon.

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» Not to worry. Reported. Posted by: GuitarBill
Ends Not Justifying The Means
Posted by: QQOblivion on Nov 6, 2009 4:04 AM   
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The CIA -- itself and in its associations -- is pure evil. Face it. They are no better than the KGB or Stasi.
How sick of the US to associate with the Uzbek government. And why? A fuel pipeline? Maybe a military base or two?
The ends CERTAINLY DON'T justify the means here.

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» RE: nds Not Justifying The Means Posted by: spiritof1877
Part of the Problem
Posted by: Revolutionary (Direct) Democracy on Nov 6, 2009 4:41 AM   
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The most disturbing thing about this report is that news like this doesn't disturb me anymore.


FREE AMERICA

REVOLUTIONARY (DIRECT) DEMOCRACY

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» RE: Now, that IS a Problem Posted by: gazooks
» RE: Now, that IS a Problem Posted by: goodyweaver
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Posted by: gazooks on Nov 6, 2009 6:12 AM   
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Is OUR participation in this culture, this society, this economy inherently making US complicit to the moral, ethical and, if you will, spiritual decline of civilisation?

I submit, that unless WE all, at the very least, consider and plan a program of proactive separation from patronage to the principle financial and industrial interests now fully in-charge of western society, WE are indeed complicit and share guilt in moral outrages, inhumanity and violations of international law.

Alternet, please accept NO more advertisement from sponsors forwarding the interests of entities that are destroying our humanity and threaten the physical earth. Help readers to consider the alternatives to further enabling the insidious lure of complacency and acquiescence to the violent means of systemic corruption and it's resulting nightmare future.

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Old news still needs repeating
Posted by: pawheel on Nov 6, 2009 6:25 AM   
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Ted Rall documented the direct relationship between the locations of most of the bases in Afghanistan and where the pipeline was going to go in his book Gas Wars years ago. Nobody listened then, they were too busy threatening the Dixie Chicks.
Thanks Alternet, keep this info coming. People need to hear it. Unfortunately most of those that need to hear it can't get their heads out of their butts long enough to change the channel from Fox noise.

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Torture is vile
Posted by: lclark on Nov 6, 2009 7:16 AM   
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The Founders saw torture as abhorant and it was one of the charges against the King in the Declaration of Independence.

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Sounds like a great way to create more real terrorists for the NWO/globalists' endless wars &
Posted by: JohnTruth2001 on Nov 6, 2009 7:43 AM   
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their increasing fascism!

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Dozen
Posted by: QQOblivion on Nov 6, 2009 8:03 AM   
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It sure says a lot that there are only a dozen posts on this thread so far, including the spam, which is probably much fewer than the number of posts in the recent thread about Ft Hood that call Islam evil.

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An Earlier Post is no longer Disturbed...
Posted by: On the Border on Nov 6, 2009 9:24 AM   
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Fortunately, I am still disturbed by stories like this.

UNfortunately I am no longer surprised, and not nearly so vocal in my outrage. It seems, tragically enough, that this sort of thing has become "business as usual."

No different than nearly 800 military bases spread across the globe (large scale), or interstate highways slicing through reservations (small scale).

Yaaaay america.

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Nice cushy job that rectorate in Dundee
Posted by: bonapartist on Nov 6, 2009 9:34 AM   
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But one has to ask what did HM Ambassador do while he was in active service?

I will venture to say nothing much.

What US government and CIA did is a break of both domestic and international law.

Craig Murray is a collaborator in crime and while it suited his interests he kept quiet about it. Now that he secured another sinecure he can start barking in hopes that he will not be held responsible. Who knows, maybe he can nab a few profitable book deals or speech tours where he can denounce his former mates.

George W. Bush is a criminal and so is his stooge Tony Blair, the lesser mongrels carrying orders are also fully responsible and that includes Mr. Murray.

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Crazy brains.
Posted by: majr17440 on Nov 6, 2009 9:35 AM   
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Hopefully the same power hungry insanity that allows these actions to takes place keeps these individuals adequately paranoid when walking amongst the general population..like a gay in a relationship who's cheating....they are always worried the other is cheating...(yes ive been there haha) All incidents like this are what has made it so that if i were to see a police men or military officer getting beat up in an alley i wouldnt raise a finger to assist them...only the homeless 60 women who cant afford her meds and lives in a box is more deserving than them!

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US FORCES ARE POSITIONED TO GUARD THE PIPELINE ROUTE. IT'S NOT ABOUT DEMOCRACY
Posted by: smf1403 on Nov 6, 2009 11:05 AM   
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This should be the headline.

"if you look at the deployment of US forces in Afghanistan, as against other NATO country forces in Afghanistan, you'll see that undoubtedly the US forces are positioned to guard the pipeline route. It's what it's about. It's about money, it's about oil, it's not about democracy."

I wonder how many people know about the pipeline, since you probably won't hear this on mainstream media.

And yet our imperialistic, warmongering, sociopathic, narcisistic President Obama, would like us to believe it's about democracy or is it Osama we are still in fear of?

How IS Obama any different than Bush or than McCain?

I will not vote for another Democrat that has not voted no to war funding and yes to single payer health care.

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Well, see the bright side.
Posted by: peterjkraus on Nov 6, 2009 1:37 PM   
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It's what they told me when they were kicking my eight-year-old German ass after school in California in 1949: "It could never happen here".

That's a relief.

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it is defeatist to accept torture in Uzbekistan and CIA use of Uzbekistan
Posted by: whealeydj on Nov 6, 2009 1:58 PM   
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as normal. we should ask the congress and particular the intelligence committee to investigate these allegations. We are the one who have become jaded if we accept this so we must have the courage to JUST SAY NO TO TORTURE.

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Russia's Vietnam
Posted by: maxsmart on Nov 6, 2009 2:39 PM   
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That may be true, but I think our place in the story started on 07/03/79 when Carter signed on to Brzenski's plan to draw Russia into Afghanistan to protect its secular, feminist friendly puppet regime from our CIA funded terrorists later known as freedom fighters. The motivation of the freedom fighters on 9/11 may be in question but if they were responding to the use of that country in a now 30 year war of death and destruction, we would have to say they were responding to our support for terrorists and as such might claim a right to strike the country supporting those terrorists except that in a strange twist of logic it was them.
So if was first a Cold War proxy war and then and Oil & Gas that has used the Afghan country as fodder then we are doubly damned. And if it becomes our renewed Vietnam War then triply damned and we will have come ful circle, Democratic(Johnson), Republican(Nixon), Republican(Bush), Democratic(Obama)!
No matter what, soon the world may tire of appeasing us.

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Now, what was all that 'hope' and 'change' about?
Posted by: Prinzowhales on Nov 6, 2009 8:57 PM   
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When you vote for Demopublican war pigs, this is what you get. Pelosi took impeachment off the table and kept it off...her party was rewarded with the presidency...Guantanamo is still open...the wars continue...the torture continues.

When you vote for Demopublicans, you endorse torture...just as you endorse the lies that sent over a million to their graves and hundreds of billions of dollars into the coffers of the military industril complex. (Now you know why the General Dynamics/Pritzger Zionists supported O'bomb'em...just as you now know why the Goldman Sachs economic saboteurs and criminals were O'bomb'em's biggest contributor...the best deal they ever made! For their measly little campaign support, they and their ilk received trillions to make this their best year ever.)

DOWN WITH THE DEMOPUBLICAN BANKER REGIME! TROOPS HOME NOW!

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Scary
Posted by: qbeeno on Nov 7, 2009 4:15 AM   
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Dude that is just downright scary dude, I mean what the heck

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Like Hitler did, the U$ regime
Posted by: Fonseca on Nov 8, 2009 9:49 AM   
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always accuses its "enemies" (read small, relatively defenseless, poor nations who have something the regime's Wall Street masters want to steal) of committing the very atrocities Washington has perpetrated for decades--or centuries.

The commies were horrible monsters because they imprisoned and tortured political dissidents, spied on their own people, infiltrated and overthrew legitimate governments, invaded nations that didn't adhere to the right agenda, imposed a one-party system, etc.

We have the "Patriot" Act; no-knock invasion of homes; all our phone calls, e-mails, faxes, letters and books we read in public libraries subject to monitoring; kidnapping of anyone, anywhere in the world, and sent to torture gulags, judged by military kangaroo courts, if there's a "trial" or not; doctors and pyschiatrists being paid to invent new torture techniques; paying "journalists" to pump out the regime's brainwashing; the one Corporate Capitalist Party with two faces.

It's why democratic, legitimate presidents, like Hugo Chávez, Evo Morales, et al, are demonized as dictators who hate freedom. Their real crime is to allow their people to have a voice, to stop giving away their country's natural resources to U$-based multinational corporados and, instead, invest the profits on the improvement of their own society.

Washington has never had any problem with right-wing, military juntas who rob, torture and murder their own people as long as they give the Wall Street crooks everything they want. The list is long: the sick Papa and Baby Doc Duvalier tyrants in Haiti; the three Somozas who ruled and robbed Nicaragua for over 40 years, with the worst human-rights record in the hemisphere; Augusto Pinochet terrorizing Chile for 17 years; the 30 successive years of military monsters in Guatemala from the U$'s overthrow in 1954; the inbred House of Saud since the 1800's; the Shah of Iran; Ferdinand Marco in the Philippines; Stroessner; Batista; and on and on.

Now, Washington has helped overthrow the elected president of Honduras and engineered the trick to keep him out of office for the rightist military oligarchy.

The reality is that anything and everything the Washington regime accuses its enemies of doing, you can bet your bottom dollar it's exactly what the real Evil Empire is guilty of. Hitler, Goebbels, Mussolini, et al, were never this successful at brainwashing. It's our critical task to resist and refuse to be taken in, and to stop the horrors financed by our taxes and in our name.

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Posted by: Richardsievert on Nov 9, 2009 5:17 PM   
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I agree we have a country that's falling apart military ready to kill there own' Where coming from the west they want to die' But can't remind you of anything in revelations? The bible biblical prophecy maybe and us a witness to it. Will it take our own country to fall' And us in tent's begging for food or people camps without food without water ready to sell our own children for it' To finally realize we where wrong Or do we all march to Washington' Ten million strong if that's what it take's " And tell them there all fired.'
"We had enough"
We see your true colors and we will not bow down and worship you" And kiss our freedoms goodbye'

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