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Israeli Government Ads Warn Against Marrying Non-Jews
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The Israeli government has launched a television and Internet advertising campaign urging Israelis to inform on Jewish friends and relatives abroad who may be in danger of marrying non-Jews.
The advertisements, employing what the Israeli media described as "scare tactics," are designed to stop assimilation through intermarriage among young Diaspora Jews by encouraging their move to Israel.
The campaign, which cost $800,000, was created in response to reports that half of all Jews outside Israel marry non-Jews. It is just one of several initiatives by the Israeli state and private organizations to try to increase the size of Israel's Jewish population.
According to one ad, voiced over by one of the country's leading news anchors, assimilation is "a strategic national threat," warning: "More than 50 percent of Diaspora youth assimilate and are lost to us."
Adam Keller, of Gush Shalom, an Israeli peace group, said this was a reference both to a general fear in Israel that the Jewish people may one day disappear through assimilation and to a more specific concern that, if it is to survive, Israel must recruit more Jews to its "demographic war" against Palestinians.
The issue of assimilation has been thrust into the limelight by a series of surveys over several years carried out by the Jewish People Policy Planning Institute, a think tank established in Jerusalem in 2002 comprising leading Israeli and Diaspora officials.
The institute's research has shown that Israel is the only country in the world with a significant Jewish population not decreasing in size. The decline elsewhere is ascribed both to low birth rates and to widespread intermarriage.
According to the institute, about half of all Jews in Western Europe and the United States assimilate by intermarrying, while the figure for the former Soviet Jewry is reported to reach 80 percent.
Israel, whose Jewish population of 5.6 million accounts for 41 percent of worldwide Jewry, has obstructed intermarriage between its Jewish and Arab citizens by refusing to recognize such marriages unless they are performed abroad.
The advertising campaign is directed particularly at Jews in the United States and Canada, whose combined 5.7 million Jews constitute the world's largest Jewish population. Most belong to the liberal Reform stream of Judaism that, unlike Orthodoxy, does not oppose intermarriage.
One-third of Jews in the Diaspora are believed to have relatives in Israel.
According to the campaign's organizers, more than 200 Israelis rang a hot line to report names of Jews living abroad after the first TV advertisement was run on Wednesday. Callers left details of e-mail addresses and Facebook and Twitter accounts.
The 30-second clip featured a series of missing-persons posters on street corners, in subways and on telephone boxes showing images of Jewish youths above the word "Lost" in different languages. A voiceover asks anyone who "knows a young Jew living abroad" to call the hot line: "Together, we will strengthen their connection to Israel, so that we don't lose them."
The campaign supports a government-backed program, Masa, that subsidizes stays and courses in Israel of up to one year in a bid to persuade Jews to immigrate and become citizens. About 8,000 Diaspora Jews attend its program each year.
The government has been trying to develop Masa alongside a rival program, Birthright Israel, which brings nearly 20,000 Diaspora youngsters to Israel each year on sponsored 10-day trips to meet Israeli soldiers and visit sites in Israel and the West Bank that are promoted as important to the Jewish people.
Although Birthright is regarded as useful in encouraging a positive image of Israel, officials fear it has only a limited effect on attracting its mainly North American participants to move to Israel. Many regard it as an all-paid holiday.
A version of this article originally appeared in The National), published in Abu Dhabi.
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Posted by: Fencerider on Sep 8, 2009 6:52 AM
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» I think he makes a legitimate point.
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Posted by: Lara1967 on Sep 8, 2009 5:07 PM
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Its the FREE WELFARE they get from our goverment.
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» Arabs are Semites too, so who is more Anti-Semitic than Jews themselves?
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» RE: acism! How ironic.
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Posted by: themotie on Sep 8, 2009 2:46 AM
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Isn't it strange how somehow these acts are always justifiable when they are comitted?
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Posted by: Ishmael1 on Sep 8, 2009 4:09 AM
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» Slinging arrows....
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» my point....
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» I guess "nonsense" at our house is different than yours.
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Posted by: wisegalah on Sep 8, 2009 4:43 AM
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Now it is really clear.
Israel is the ideological heir of Apartheid.
Unashamedly racist, morally bankrupt and only financially solvent because of the support of spiritual fatherland of eugenics, (another nation founded upon racist principles and perverted religion) the US of A!
How much they have in common.
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Posted by: harryf200 on Sep 8, 2009 5:15 AM
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Very little in this world surprises me but forgive me for being cautious - I am so used to reading fiction claimed as fact about Jews, Muslims, Democrats, Republicans, Sandinista, Cubans, Russians, the Irish Republican Army, the UK's National Health Service, WMDs and Iraq, Afghanistan, etc., etc. that, like UFOs and ghosts, I need to see things like this for myself before I accept them as shockingly true.
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» Several hours later and still no link to one of those adverts .... hmmm
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Posted by: dcande01 on Sep 8, 2009 5:30 AM
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Posted by: fred_53_99 on Sep 8, 2009 5:37 AM
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This banning didn't stop Jews from marring non jews. I understand the reason but the reality is peole tend to marry whom they love. Life for most people is too short to live it for other folks racist nut. This is as it has always been. Jesus had at least two anscesters that were not jewish. Moses was married to an ethiopian and Solomon most likly has sex with another ethiopian the Queen of sheiba which explains why there are so many black Jews.
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» No....this is religion.
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Posted by: leland61 on Sep 8, 2009 7:44 AM
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The idea of a Jewish, or Muslim or Christian country are completely incompatible with geniune democracy and all manner of other freedoms.
The only reason that there is no peace in the middle east (doesn't deserve capitalization) is that there are two sets of people each of which believes that their imaginary deity has told them that it all belong to them. How stupid is that? If you think some god told you something, you need to be medicated and institutionalized. As a matter of fact the entire middle east appears to be a mental institution without walls already. Now if we can just take away their planes and rockets and build a big wall around the thing, the entire world would be better off. Let the bastards kill each other off and be done with it.
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» Proponents of Monotheistic religions are delusional!
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Posted by: Plexius2 on Sep 8, 2009 3:30 PM
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Posted by: marc007 on Sep 9, 2009 11:27 AM
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The custom in question - it's really a religious law - is a tribal thing. Jews are a tribal people and our religion is a tribal religion. One of the tribal rules is that you have to marry within the tribe. It doesn't matter what skin color your prospective partner has or where their ancestors sojourned, but it is critically important that they be of the Jewish religion. This rule goes back thousands of years, and it is one of the reasons the Jewish people still exists today. We want the Jewish people and our religion to be around in another thousand years, too, so we will persist in this practice. I'm not sure why this should concern you at all unless you were planning to marry a Jew, in which case you can always convert. But be advised, a true conversion is not a particularly easy process.
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Posted by: EKSwitaj on Sep 11, 2009 4:00 PM
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Without details like these, your comment veers into the area of anti-Semitism, and we can't fight racism with racism.
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» Puhleeze.... Go and study History sometime.
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Posted by: Fempatriot on Sep 8, 2009 8:25 AM
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Do not kid yourselves that Jewish Arabs are treated as well as Ashkenazi Jews. They have different ID cards identifying them as Arabs.Arabs are stopped at "check points" Israelis are waved on through.
In Israel it is illegal to marry a non-Jew.
It is illegal for anyone of another religion to try to convert a Jew and carries a prison term. It's even illegal for a non-Jew to give a gift to a Jew. (This might be an attempt to convert them, a bribe.)
Israel is on a path of the "Judification" of Jerusalem--even though Jerusalem is sacred to 3 religions: Judaism, Islam, and Christianity. The Jewish government is literally running out non-Jews and expropriating their lands and buildings.
Israel issues different ID cards, identifying all non-Jews as such. Jews are treated best in all ways.
Jews are now forbidden to go into Palestinian territories. In fact, Israel is working to keep all aid and sympathetic groups from joining Palestinians in their struggle to end Jewish occupation of the Palestinian people.
The apartheid "wall" (at least 24 feet high,) also has underground sensors, above ground barriers, and watch towers--all built on Palestinian, not Jewish land. It separates farmers from their crops, families from each other, Arabs from their jobs. All in the sneaky name of "defense" of Israel but really to wall in the rest of the Arabs as they have done with Gaza--the world's largest prison: One and a half million imprisoned souls who cannot leave. They are at the mercy of Israel for: electricity, water, food (all rationed) and even the necessities of life: soap, toilet paper, medicines.)
Israel denies work to Palestinians and imports Asians and others to do the "grunt work." But no non-Jew baby born there is ever "an Israeli." After a specific time, these workers are shipped back home. No ILLEGAL ALIENS in Israel!
Back in the 1940s, a million Christian and Muslim Arabs were literally driven out of Israel to make way for European Jews. Over 400 villages were razed to the ground. The first "terrorists" were the Irgun and the Stern gang--formed by Jews to terrorize Arabs, the British, and Amricans into allowing the Zionist dream to come true.
Israel was founded by Zionists. After World War II, there was no need for European Jews to set up an all-Jewish state. Germany was defeated; all Jews could have returned. But they were conned by Zionists into immigrating to "Palestine." It was a 2 centuries dream of the Zionists who refuse to allow Jews to assimilate with other people of the world.
This is the main problem the world has had with Judaism for thousands of years--their refusal to assimilate with other people and to consider the lands of their birth their home. This is a flaw that will eventually destroy Judaism: this feeling of non-citizenship all over the world except for a tiny piece of real estate that they claim their god gave to them.
It is a myth--a downright lie that a god who created us all would favor one race/religion over another. Jewish supremecism is nothing new; it is over three thousand years old. It will continue until they themselves realize that we are all brothers and sisters under the skin.
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Posted by: leafsong1 on Sep 8, 2009 8:40 AM
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Isn't it likely that the excesses and atrocities of zionism are motivating the diaspora to cut their associations with Judaism as a way of cutting their associations with Israel?
If 41% of the world's jews live in Israel and more than 9% of the rest claims dual cutuzenship, then we are at the point where the majority of Jews are Israeli citizens. This, in combination with the excesses and atrocities of zionism, will tend to increase anti-Jewish bigotry. Whether this will result in more or in less assimilation or emigration is yet to be seen, but the current trends tend to point to increased assimilation. Many Jews simply do not want to be Israelis.
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Posted by: rybo1 on Sep 8, 2009 8:43 AM
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Anyway, Israel has to be an anti-semetic nation, as all Arabs are semetic, yet the corporate media, controlled by you know who, purposely fails to mention this hard fact.
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Posted by: CRaPWHiSPeReR on Sep 8, 2009 9:16 AM
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The shocking responses were first censored by YouTube. Witness 'Feeling the Hate':
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ze5dbxPO8cU
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Posted by: willymack on Sep 8, 2009 9:33 AM
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If your mother is Jewish, you're automatically a Jew, right? What if you worship turnips; does that change anything?
If you're descended from Jews, but are an atheist, are you still a Jew?
To me, this sophistry is on a par with the "debate" over how many angels can dance on a pinhead, when there's absolutely no empirical evidence for angels in the first place.
How about respect for each other's humanity, and trust and affection based on LOVE, irrespective of religion. What's wrong with that?
Too many people suscribe to the "if only" nonsense, and imagine a world where everyone is of the same mind and philosophical outlook. That works for ants and bees, but humans are quite different, and much more diverse than that. Imagine the former, though. Oy!
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Posted by: Spiritgirl on Sep 8, 2009 9:50 AM
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Does no one see the racism? Does no one see the hypocrisy? The so-called "victims" are the new perpetrators of victimization of other, even their own! Now, they want to dictate to whom people should marry! The only reason they are really supporting this, is to have more "reason" to terminate Palestinian claim from the land they keep stealing from them!
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Posted by: Gravitas on Sep 8, 2009 10:27 AM
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I think it is bizarre that anyone should be expected to marry to preserve a heritage. Cultures can be preserved by converts. Gee I dated an Israeli/Canadian architect last summer who abruptly ended it for no reason and never contacted me again. I wonder if he was "recovered?" That does it. I am going back to dating Irishmen. No danger of them dying out whatsoever!
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Posted by: Vark on Sep 8, 2009 10:44 AM
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Posted by: Archie1954 on Sep 8, 2009 2:13 PM
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Posted by: Smiff on Sep 8, 2009 3:27 PM
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It is my optimistic view that we are evolving, and all forms of separateness that we still see around the world are manifestations of this early stage.
Regardless of the differences between us that are so expertly exploited by the opportunists and manipulators of the world, hang in there.
Don't be a manipulator yourself. Keep an open mind to help minimise your vulnerability to manipulation by others.
As much as you can, love yourself, your world and everyone and everything in it.
Be a patient contributor to the progress of evolution.
Gandhi said it best; 'Be the change you want to see.'
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Posted by: Walt K on Sep 8, 2009 4:46 PM
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Being dragged in for interrogation if they are seen eating a Sara Lee bagel?
Sexual reeducation for all those using a condom and therefore limiting "natural increase"?
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Posted by: SGMPhipps on Sep 9, 2009 7:01 AM
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My mother was called a "dirty Mc" by the children in her neighborhood while she grew up. My father told me that his father use to mess with my grandmother by telling people he was half Irish. I guess this really embarrassed and angered her.
Apparently she overcame these feelings because I never felt unloved by her. I am glad my parents didn't tell me these things until I was an adult.
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Posted by: jejer on Sep 9, 2009 9:27 AM
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Posted by: stellabloo on Sep 9, 2009 1:11 PM
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If I read it correctly, the whole point of this campaign is "to counter a "demographic threat" from the rapid growth of the Palestinian populations in Israel and the Occupied Territories."
The obvious reason that there is a demographic threat is that Palestinians are having more babies than Jews, not because of intermarriage. Modern Israelis are only doing what modern, educated youth are doing the world over - waiting until after college or longer to marry and have a family, and then only having one or two children.
The OBVIOUS way to counter the "demographic threat" would be to offer Palestinian youth more opportunity for work and education. If people are not shackled by poverty and ignorance, then * surprise surprise * they will find other, more productive things to do besides having babies and planning suicide bombings. If people are treated like human garbage, guess how they will react...
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Posted by: AresXIV on Sep 10, 2009 8:58 AM
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But somehow when the Jews do it we're all supposed to agree that it is a good thing, as if the survival of the Jews is some kind of benefit, but we're all supposed to skip joyfully towards the extinction of our own people in the multicult chaos that has been deliberately pushed on us by none other than the Jews.
The good news is that the rate of Arab births in the unHoly Land is more than twice as high as the Juden. In less than a generation, the Jews will be extinct in that part of the world and well on their way to extinction everywhere else. :D
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Posted by: Shey on Sep 12, 2009 5:34 AM
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There's a lot of Anti-Semitism on AlterNet on the best days. Lets not be so quick to condemn all Israeli's, along with their extreme right-wing government.
If the U.S. was smaller and less ethnically and religiously diverse, the Bush administration would have imposed laws based on Fundamentalist/Evangelical Christianity on the entire country.
And lets not forget the Muslin countries in the middle east where the word of the Mullahs is the real law - where women are still stoned to death for "adultery", where honor killings of women are legal, or tolerated -
I could go on and on.
The problem isn't Israel, the problem is religion. Especially when religion is allowed to dictate the laws and policies of government.
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Posted by: teon6 on Oct 2, 2009 2:07 AM
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» I think he makes a legitimate point.
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Posted by: Lara1967 on Sep 8, 2009 5:07 PM
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Its the FREE WELFARE they get from our goverment.
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» Arabs are Semites too, so who is more Anti-Semitic than Jews themselves?
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Posted by: themotie on Sep 8, 2009 2:46 AM
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Isn't it strange how somehow these acts are always justifiable when they are comitted?
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Posted by: wisegalah on Sep 8, 2009 4:43 AM
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Now it is really clear.
Israel is the ideological heir of Apartheid.
Unashamedly racist, morally bankrupt and only financially solvent because of the support of spiritual fatherland of eugenics, (another nation founded upon racist principles and perverted religion) the US of A!
How much they have in common.
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Posted by: harryf200 on Sep 8, 2009 5:15 AM
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Very little in this world surprises me but forgive me for being cautious - I am so used to reading fiction claimed as fact about Jews, Muslims, Democrats, Republicans, Sandinista, Cubans, Russians, the Irish Republican Army, the UK's National Health Service, WMDs and Iraq, Afghanistan, etc., etc. that, like UFOs and ghosts, I need to see things like this for myself before I accept them as shockingly true.
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» Several hours later and still no link to one of those adverts .... hmmm
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Posted by: fred_53_99 on Sep 8, 2009 5:37 AM
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This banning didn't stop Jews from marring non jews. I understand the reason but the reality is peole tend to marry whom they love. Life for most people is too short to live it for other folks racist nut. This is as it has always been. Jesus had at least two anscesters that were not jewish. Moses was married to an ethiopian and Solomon most likly has sex with another ethiopian the Queen of sheiba which explains why there are so many black Jews.
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Posted by: leland61 on Sep 8, 2009 7:44 AM
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The idea of a Jewish, or Muslim or Christian country are completely incompatible with geniune democracy and all manner of other freedoms.
The only reason that there is no peace in the middle east (doesn't deserve capitalization) is that there are two sets of people each of which believes that their imaginary deity has told them that it all belong to them. How stupid is that? If you think some god told you something, you need to be medicated and institutionalized. As a matter of fact the entire middle east appears to be a mental institution without walls already. Now if we can just take away their planes and rockets and build a big wall around the thing, the entire world would be better off. Let the bastards kill each other off and be done with it.
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Posted by: marc007 on Sep 9, 2009 11:27 AM
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The custom in question - it's really a religious law - is a tribal thing. Jews are a tribal people and our religion is a tribal religion. One of the tribal rules is that you have to marry within the tribe. It doesn't matter what skin color your prospective partner has or where their ancestors sojourned, but it is critically important that they be of the Jewish religion. This rule goes back thousands of years, and it is one of the reasons the Jewish people still exists today. We want the Jewish people and our religion to be around in another thousand years, too, so we will persist in this practice. I'm not sure why this should concern you at all unless you were planning to marry a Jew, in which case you can always convert. But be advised, a true conversion is not a particularly easy process.
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Posted by: EKSwitaj on Sep 11, 2009 4:00 PM
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Without details like these, your comment veers into the area of anti-Semitism, and we can't fight racism with racism.
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Posted by: Fempatriot on Sep 8, 2009 8:25 AM
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Do not kid yourselves that Jewish Arabs are treated as well as Ashkenazi Jews. They have different ID cards identifying them as Arabs.Arabs are stopped at "check points" Israelis are waved on through.
In Israel it is illegal to marry a non-Jew.
It is illegal for anyone of another religion to try to convert a Jew and carries a prison term. It's even illegal for a non-Jew to give a gift to a Jew. (This might be an attempt to convert them, a bribe.)
Israel is on a path of the "Judification" of Jerusalem--even though Jerusalem is sacred to 3 religions: Judaism, Islam, and Christianity. The Jewish government is literally running out non-Jews and expropriating their lands and buildings.
Israel issues different ID cards, identifying all non-Jews as such. Jews are treated best in all ways.
Jews are now forbidden to go into Palestinian territories. In fact, Israel is working to keep all aid and sympathetic groups from joining Palestinians in their struggle to end Jewish occupation of the Palestinian people.
The apartheid "wall" (at least 24 feet high,) also has underground sensors, above ground barriers, and watch towers--all built on Palestinian, not Jewish land. It separates farmers from their crops, families from each other, Arabs from their jobs. All in the sneaky name of "defense" of Israel but really to wall in the rest of the Arabs as they have done with Gaza--the world's largest prison: One and a half million imprisoned souls who cannot leave. They are at the mercy of Israel for: electricity, water, food (all rationed) and even the necessities of life: soap, toilet paper, medicines.)
Israel denies work to Palestinians and imports Asians and others to do the "grunt work." But no non-Jew baby born there is ever "an Israeli." After a specific time, these workers are shipped back home. No ILLEGAL ALIENS in Israel!
Back in the 1940s, a million Christian and Muslim Arabs were literally driven out of Israel to make way for European Jews. Over 400 villages were razed to the ground. The first "terrorists" were the Irgun and the Stern gang--formed by Jews to terrorize Arabs, the British, and Amricans into allowing the Zionist dream to come true.
Israel was founded by Zionists. After World War II, there was no need for European Jews to set up an all-Jewish state. Germany was defeated; all Jews could have returned. But they were conned by Zionists into immigrating to "Palestine." It was a 2 centuries dream of the Zionists who refuse to allow Jews to assimilate with other people of the world.
This is the main problem the world has had with Judaism for thousands of years--their refusal to assimilate with other people and to consider the lands of their birth their home. This is a flaw that will eventually destroy Judaism: this feeling of non-citizenship all over the world except for a tiny piece of real estate that they claim their god gave to them.
It is a myth--a downright lie that a god who created us all would favor one race/religion over another. Jewish supremecism is nothing new; it is over three thousand years old. It will continue until they themselves realize that we are all brothers and sisters under the skin.
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Posted by: leafsong1 on Sep 8, 2009 8:40 AM
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Isn't it likely that the excesses and atrocities of zionism are motivating the diaspora to cut their associations with Judaism as a way of cutting their associations with Israel?
If 41% of the world's jews live in Israel and more than 9% of the rest claims dual cutuzenship, then we are at the point where the majority of Jews are Israeli citizens. This, in combination with the excesses and atrocities of zionism, will tend to increase anti-Jewish bigotry. Whether this will result in more or in less assimilation or emigration is yet to be seen, but the current trends tend to point to increased assimilation. Many Jews simply do not want to be Israelis.
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Posted by: rybo1 on Sep 8, 2009 8:43 AM
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Anyway, Israel has to be an anti-semetic nation, as all Arabs are semetic, yet the corporate media, controlled by you know who, purposely fails to mention this hard fact.
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Posted by: CRaPWHiSPeReR on Sep 8, 2009 9:16 AM
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The shocking responses were first censored by YouTube. Witness 'Feeling the Hate':
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ze5dbxPO8cU
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Posted by: willymack on Sep 8, 2009 9:33 AM
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If your mother is Jewish, you're automatically a Jew, right? What if you worship turnips; does that change anything?
If you're descended from Jews, but are an atheist, are you still a Jew?
To me, this sophistry is on a par with the "debate" over how many angels can dance on a pinhead, when there's absolutely no empirical evidence for angels in the first place.
How about respect for each other's humanity, and trust and affection based on LOVE, irrespective of religion. What's wrong with that?
Too many people suscribe to the "if only" nonsense, and imagine a world where everyone is of the same mind and philosophical outlook. That works for ants and bees, but humans are quite different, and much more diverse than that. Imagine the former, though. Oy!
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Posted by: Spiritgirl on Sep 8, 2009 9:50 AM
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Does no one see the racism? Does no one see the hypocrisy? The so-called "victims" are the new perpetrators of victimization of other, even their own! Now, they want to dictate to whom people should marry! The only reason they are really supporting this, is to have more "reason" to terminate Palestinian claim from the land they keep stealing from them!
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Posted by: Gravitas on Sep 8, 2009 10:27 AM
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I think it is bizarre that anyone should be expected to marry to preserve a heritage. Cultures can be preserved by converts. Gee I dated an Israeli/Canadian architect last summer who abruptly ended it for no reason and never contacted me again. I wonder if he was "recovered?" That does it. I am going back to dating Irishmen. No danger of them dying out whatsoever!
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Posted by: Smiff on Sep 8, 2009 3:27 PM
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It is my optimistic view that we are evolving, and all forms of separateness that we still see around the world are manifestations of this early stage.
Regardless of the differences between us that are so expertly exploited by the opportunists and manipulators of the world, hang in there.
Don't be a manipulator yourself. Keep an open mind to help minimise your vulnerability to manipulation by others.
As much as you can, love yourself, your world and everyone and everything in it.
Be a patient contributor to the progress of evolution.
Gandhi said it best; 'Be the change you want to see.'
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Posted by: Walt K on Sep 8, 2009 4:46 PM
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Being dragged in for interrogation if they are seen eating a Sara Lee bagel?
Sexual reeducation for all those using a condom and therefore limiting "natural increase"?
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Posted by: SGMPhipps on Sep 9, 2009 7:01 AM
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My mother was called a "dirty Mc" by the children in her neighborhood while she grew up. My father told me that his father use to mess with my grandmother by telling people he was half Irish. I guess this really embarrassed and angered her.
Apparently she overcame these feelings because I never felt unloved by her. I am glad my parents didn't tell me these things until I was an adult.
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Posted by: stellabloo on Sep 9, 2009 1:11 PM
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If I read it correctly, the whole point of this campaign is "to counter a "demographic threat" from the rapid growth of the Palestinian populations in Israel and the Occupied Territories."
The obvious reason that there is a demographic threat is that Palestinians are having more babies than Jews, not because of intermarriage. Modern Israelis are only doing what modern, educated youth are doing the world over - waiting until after college or longer to marry and have a family, and then only having one or two children.
The OBVIOUS way to counter the "demographic threat" would be to offer Palestinian youth more opportunity for work and education. If people are not shackled by poverty and ignorance, then * surprise surprise * they will find other, more productive things to do besides having babies and planning suicide bombings. If people are treated like human garbage, guess how they will react...
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Posted by: AresXIV on Sep 10, 2009 8:58 AM
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But somehow when the Jews do it we're all supposed to agree that it is a good thing, as if the survival of the Jews is some kind of benefit, but we're all supposed to skip joyfully towards the extinction of our own people in the multicult chaos that has been deliberately pushed on us by none other than the Jews.
The good news is that the rate of Arab births in the unHoly Land is more than twice as high as the Juden. In less than a generation, the Jews will be extinct in that part of the world and well on their way to extinction everywhere else. :D
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Posted by: Shey on Sep 12, 2009 5:34 AM
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There's a lot of Anti-Semitism on AlterNet on the best days. Lets not be so quick to condemn all Israeli's, along with their extreme right-wing government.
If the U.S. was smaller and less ethnically and religiously diverse, the Bush administration would have imposed laws based on Fundamentalist/Evangelical Christianity on the entire country.
And lets not forget the Muslin countries in the middle east where the word of the Mullahs is the real law - where women are still stoned to death for "adultery", where honor killings of women are legal, or tolerated -
I could go on and on.
The problem isn't Israel, the problem is religion. Especially when religion is allowed to dictate the laws and policies of government.
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