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The Truth About the Afghan Election
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In Iraq and Afghanistan American and British forces became participants in civil wars which their own presence has exacerbated and prolonged. The US and UK governments persistently ignore the extent to which foreign military occupation has destabilized both countries.
The reason for this should be obvious: foreign occupations have seldom been popular throughout history. The occupiers consult their own political, military and economic interests before that of the allied governments which they are supposedly supporting. This de-legitimized the Baghdad and Kabul governments and enabled their opponents to pose as the patriotic opposition. In addition, foreign military armies, whatever their declared intentions, enforce their authority by violence, invariably producing friction with the local population.
The very fact that the election in Afghanistan took place at all last week is being lauded this week in the western press as a triumph for democracy conducted under the wise supervision of soldiers from the US, Britain and NATO. But Afghans are more interested in who really holds power and what they do with it.
President Hamid Karzai is not particularly popular, but as the incumbent he in a strong position, through networks of patronage, to get the support of local and regional king-makers such as warlords, chiefs of police, shuras (local councils), religious, tribal and ethnic leaders. What foreign reporting of elections in both Afghanistan and Iraq misses is the extent to which ordinary Afghans and Iraqis regard their governments as rackets run by political gangsters for their own ends. A common reason, I’ve heard expressed in both Baghdad and Kabul for supporting the incumbent leadership, is that it will have already stolen so much that its members have no need to steal more, while a new government will be equally rapacious but far hungrier. The only way of judging the extent of such extreme cynicism in Afghanistan is the extent of the turn-out, currently estimated to be 40-50 per cent.
Will the Afghan election bring the end of the war closer or noticeably strengthen the government in Kabul? Mr Karzai, if he wins, will be able to say that he was chosen as leader in a real election. But otherwise the poll will only reconfirm the power of the men, often labelled warlords, who emerged the surprise winners from a civil war between the Taliban, almost entirely drawn from the Pashtun community (42 per cent of Afghans), and the largely non-Pashtun Northern Alliance.
Just before 9/11, the Northern Alliance forces had been squeezed into a corner of north east Afghanistan and seemed to be close to final defeat. But within a few months of the US deciding to drive out the Taliban as hosts of al-Qa’ida, the Northern Alliance was able to take over the whole of Aghanistan thanks to US airpower and money. Most Afghans were glad to see the apparent end of the Taliban, whose victories were won with the support of Pakistani military intelligence and Saudi cash.
But opposing the Taliban was never quite the same as supporting the Northern Alliance, whose leaders turned out to be ravenous for the perks of office and power. I spent several months in the Northern Alliance stronghold in the Panjshir Valley north of Kabul in 2001, and, going back to Afghanistan earlier this year, I was astonished to find so many of the warlords I knew then are still monopolizing jobs, contracts and money-making positions in Kabul. It is absurd for foreign governments to lament Mr Karzai’s promotion as his running mates of the Tajik warlord Muhammad Fahim and his Hazara equivalent Karim Khalili, both of whom are accused of human rights abuses. Mr Karzai is simply recognizing the strength of established, if unsavory, power brokers in the non-Pashto communities. This may be a very messy and highly corrupt political power structure, but it is one which the US and Britain are fighting to keep in place.
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Posted by: ProgressiveManiac on Aug 24, 2009 6:17 AM
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The media has long trumpeted the right-wing inspired notion that the people of the middle east are not like us, that they are a bit crazy. Of course governments wanting to go to war always try to dehumanize their enemies, but this statement gives me pause. It makes makes me wonder whether Afghans and Iraqis are as so different from us as we've been led to think.
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Posted by: kettleblack on Aug 24, 2009 6:39 AM
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Remember when Dubya pledged not to become a "Nation Builder" back in 1999, while running for office? Whatever they say on the campaign trail, you can bet they will do the opposite. Remember Daddy Bush's famous, "Read my lips. No new taxes." Like daddy, like shrub.
Obama is carrying on the tradition. Why else would he keep Dubya's people in place: Gates, Odierno, Petraeus, all the major players.
Wars without end, more foreign military bases.
Business as usual.
New! A war without borders! No national sovereignty recognized.
What's next?
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Posted by: cashelboylo on Aug 24, 2009 7:19 AM
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Check out the pics of the vote handling.
Bins purportedly full of votes are thrown around like pizzas.
The bins appear to be about, say 13.5 cubic feet.
Weight when full of paper, around 500 kilos.
How do they lift them with one hand?
Surprise surprise.
They are empty.
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Posted by: leafsong1 on Aug 24, 2009 7:44 AM
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Posted by: willymack on Aug 24, 2009 9:27 AM
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The fact of the matter here is that we're in Afghanistan ILLEGALLY, and under false pretenses, and that their internal politics are NONE OF OUR BUSINESS.
Where's the hero that was going to get us out of this mess, anyway? THAT'S the real story.
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Posted by: badkitty on Aug 24, 2009 10:28 AM
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Clearly, our military leadership is useless. I know Kennedy is very sick, but I wish he would advise Obama to get out NOW. I wish Kerry would tell him that too. Who else is left from the Sixties who so clearly remembers Vietnam and the damage it did?
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Posted by: JenniferBedingfield on Aug 24, 2009 10:40 AM
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Posted by: wolvedrive on Aug 24, 2009 12:16 PM
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Posted by: hilaryuk on Aug 24, 2009 1:06 PM
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So let us all stop pretending that our governments care about democracy abroad - they are, after all, sedulously ignoring the crisis of democracy within their own borders.
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Posted by: Basenjis on Aug 24, 2009 6:37 PM
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Posted by: boay on Aug 24, 2009 6:46 PM
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Posted by: 250baichi on Aug 31, 2009 1:00 AM
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Posted by: ProgressiveManiac on Aug 24, 2009 6:17 AM
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The media has long trumpeted the right-wing inspired notion that the people of the middle east are not like us, that they are a bit crazy. Of course governments wanting to go to war always try to dehumanize their enemies, but this statement gives me pause. It makes makes me wonder whether Afghans and Iraqis are as so different from us as we've been led to think.
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Posted by: kettleblack on Aug 24, 2009 6:39 AM
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Remember when Dubya pledged not to become a "Nation Builder" back in 1999, while running for office? Whatever they say on the campaign trail, you can bet they will do the opposite. Remember Daddy Bush's famous, "Read my lips. No new taxes." Like daddy, like shrub.
Obama is carrying on the tradition. Why else would he keep Dubya's people in place: Gates, Odierno, Petraeus, all the major players.
Wars without end, more foreign military bases.
Business as usual.
New! A war without borders! No national sovereignty recognized.
What's next?
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Posted by: cashelboylo on Aug 24, 2009 7:19 AM
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Check out the pics of the vote handling.
Bins purportedly full of votes are thrown around like pizzas.
The bins appear to be about, say 13.5 cubic feet.
Weight when full of paper, around 500 kilos.
How do they lift them with one hand?
Surprise surprise.
They are empty.
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Posted by: leafsong1 on Aug 24, 2009 7:44 AM
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Posted by: willymack on Aug 24, 2009 9:27 AM
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The fact of the matter here is that we're in Afghanistan ILLEGALLY, and under false pretenses, and that their internal politics are NONE OF OUR BUSINESS.
Where's the hero that was going to get us out of this mess, anyway? THAT'S the real story.
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Posted by: badkitty on Aug 24, 2009 10:28 AM
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Clearly, our military leadership is useless. I know Kennedy is very sick, but I wish he would advise Obama to get out NOW. I wish Kerry would tell him that too. Who else is left from the Sixties who so clearly remembers Vietnam and the damage it did?
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Posted by: JenniferBedingfield on Aug 24, 2009 10:40 AM
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Posted by: hilaryuk on Aug 24, 2009 1:06 PM
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So let us all stop pretending that our governments care about democracy abroad - they are, after all, sedulously ignoring the crisis of democracy within their own borders.
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