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'There Is No Way I Will Deploy to Afghanistan' -- Seeds of Dissent in the U.S. Military Are Growing

By Dahr Jamail, Investigative Fund at The Nation Institute. Posted July 2, 2009.


From suicide to desertion to refusal to deploy -- service members' dissent may be growing into something far larger.
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Editor's Note: The following is an introduction by Tom Engelhardt.


The All-Volunteer Force (AVF) exists for a reason captured in a study by Colonel Robert D. Heinl, Jr., author of the "definitive history of the Marine Corps," published in Armed Forces Journal in 1971. The U.S. military in Vietnam was at that moment at the edge of chaos. As Colonel Heinl put it, it was experiencing "widespread conditions... that have only been exceeded in this century by the French Army's Nivelle mutinies of 1917 and the collapse of the Tsarist armies [of Russia] in 1916 and 1917."

In fact, statistics flowing back to Washington about the American war machine in Vietnam then pointed toward an unimaginable nightmare. Drug use was rampant; desertions stood at 70 per thousand, a modern high; small-scale mutinies or "combat refusals" were at critical, if untabulated, levels; incidents of racial conflict had soared; and strife between "lifers" and draftees was at unprecedented levels. Reported "fraggings" -- assassination attempts -- against unpopular officers or NCOs had risen from 126 in 1969 to 333 in 1971, despite declining troop strength in Vietnam. According to Colonel Heinl's figures, as many as 144 antiwar underground newspapers were being published by, or for, soldiers. And most threatening of all, active duty soldiers in relatively small numbers (as well as a swelling number of Vietnam veterans) were beginning to actively organize against the war.

When, in January 1973, before the war was even over, President Richard Nixon announced that an American draft army was at an end and an all-volunteer force would be created, this was why. The U.S. military was in the wilderness without a compass, having discovered one crucial thing: you couldn't fight an endless, unpopular counterinsurgency war with the kind of conscript army a democracy had to offer. What resulted, of course, was the AVF, a moniker that, as Andrew Bacevich has written in his book The New American Militarism, was but "a euphemism for what is, in fact, a professional army... [that] does not even remotely 'look like' democratic America." Citizenship and the obligation to serve were now officially severed and, from the 1980s on, most Americans would ever more vigorously cheer on the AVF from the sidelines, while it would be a force theoretically purged of possible Vietnam-style dissent and refusal.

In that sense, it could be considered a success. We've now been at war seven and a half years in Afghanistan and more than five in Iraq, two catastrophic counterinsurgency struggles, and yet a Vietnam-style movement has neither arisen in the military, nor for that matter in the streets of what's now called "the homeland." But as Dahr Jamail indicates below and in his new book, The Will To Resist: Soldiers Who Refuse to Fight in Iraq and Afghanistan, dissent has proved irrepressible. With the generous support of the Nation Institute's Investigative Fund, Jamail has produced a report on the seeds of refusal and dissent in the military that may -- in a quagmire future in Afghanistan and possibly Iraq -- grow into something far larger. -- Tom Engelhardt



On May 1st at Fort Hood in central Texas, Specialist Victor Agosto wrote on a counseling statement, which is actually a punitive U.S. Army memo:


"There is no way I will deploy to Afghanistan. The occupation is immoral and unjust. It does not make the American people any safer. It has the opposite effect."

Ten days later, he refused to obey a direct order from his company commander to prepare to deploy and was issued a second counseling statement. On that one he wrote, "I will not obey any orders I deem to be immoral or illegal." Shortly thereafter, he told a reporter, "I'm not willing to participate in this occupation, knowing it is completely wrong. It's a matter of what I'm willing to live with."

Agosto had already served in Iraq for 13 months with the 57th Expeditionary Signal Battalion. Currently on active duty at Fort Hood, he admits, "It was in Iraq that I turned against the occupations. I started to feel very guilty. I watched contractors making obscene amounts of money. I found no evidence that the occupation was in any way helping the people of Iraq. I know I contributed to death and human suffering. It's hard to quantify how much I caused, but I know I contributed to it."

Even though he was approaching the end of his military service, Agosto was ordered to deploy to Afghanistan under the stop-loss program that the Department of Defense uses to retain soldiers beyond the term of their contracts. At least 185,000 troops have been stop-lossed since September 11, 2001.

Agosto betrays no ambivalence about his willingness to face the consequences of his actions:


"Yes, I'm fully prepared for this. I have concluded that the wars [in Iraq and Afghanistan] are not going to be ended by politicians or people at the top. They're not responsive to people, they're responsive to corporate America. The only way to make them responsive to the needs of the people is for soldiers to not fight their wars. If soldiers won't fight their wars, the wars won't happen. I hope I'm setting an example for other soldiers."

Today, Agosto's remains a relatively isolated act in an all-volunteer military built to avoid the dissent that, in the Vietnam era, came to be associated with an army of draftees. However, it's an example that may, soon enough, have far greater meaning for an increasingly overstretched military plunging into an expanding Afghan War seemingly without end, even as its war in Iraq continues.

Avoiding Battle

Writing on his blog from Baquba, Iraq, in September 2004, Specialist Jeff Englehart commented: "Three soldiers in our unit have been hurt in the last four days and the true amount of army-wide casualties leaving Iraq are unknown. The figures are much higher than what is reported. We get awards and medals that are supposed to make us feel proud about our wicked assignment..."

Over the years, in response to such feelings, some American soldiers have come up with ingenious ways to express defiance or dissent on our distant battlegrounds. These have been little noted in the mainstream media, and when they do surface, officials in the Pentagon or in Washington just brush them aside as "bad apple" incidents (the same explanation they tend to use when a war crime is exposed).

But in the stories of men and women who served in the occupation of Iraq, they often play a different role. In October 2007, for instance, I interviewed Corporal Phil Aliff, an Iraq War veteran, then based at Fort Drum in upstate New York. He recalled:


"During my stints in Iraq between August 2005 and July 2006, we probably ran 300 patrols. Most of the men in my platoon were just in from combat tours in Afghanistan and morale was incredibly low. Recurring hits by roadside bombs had demoralized us and we realized the only way we could avoid being blown up was to stop driving around all the time. So every other day we would find an open field and park, and call our base every hour to tell them we were searching for weapon caches in the fields and everything was going fine. All our enlisted people had grown disenchanted with the chain of command."

Aliff referred to this tactic as engaging in "search and avoid" missions, a sardonic expression recycled from the Vietnam War when soldiers were sent out on official "search and destroy" missions.

Sergeant Eli Wright, who served as a medic with the 1st Infantry Division in Ramadi from September 2003 through September 2004, had a similar story to tell me. "Oh yeah, we did search and avoid missions all the time. It was common for us to go set camp atop a bridge and use it as an over-watch position. We would use our binoculars to observe rather than sweep, but call in radio checks every hour to report on our sweeps."

According to Private First Class Clifton Hicks, who served in Iraq with the First Cavalry from October 2003, only six months after Baghdad was occupied by American troops, until July 2004, search and avoid missions began early and always had the backing of a senior non-commissioned officer or a staff sergeant. "Our platoon sergeant was with us and he knew our patrols were bullshit, just riding around to get blown up," he explained. "We were at Camp Victory at Baghdad International Airport. A lot of the time we'd leave the main gate and come right back in another gate to the base where there's a big PX with a nice mess hall and a Burger King. We'd leave one guy at the Humvee to call in every hour, while the others stayed at the PX. We were just sick and tired of going out on these stupid patrols."

These understated acts of refusal were often survival strategies as well as gestures of dissent, as the troops were invariably undertrained and ill-equipped for the job of putting down an insurgency. Specialist Nathan Lewis, who was deployed to Iraq with the 214th Artillery Brigade from March 2002 through June 2003, experienced this firsthand. "We never received any training for much of what we were expected to do," he said when telling me of certain munitions catching fire while he and other soldiers were loading them onto trucks, "We were never trained on how to handle [them] the right way."

Sergeant Geoff Millard of the New York Army National Guard served at a Rear Operations Center with the 42nd Infantry Division from October 2004 through October 2005. Part of his duty entailed reporting "significant actions," or SIGACTS -- that is, attacks on U.S. forces. In an interview in 2007 he told me, "When I was there at least five companies never reported SIGACTS. I think 'search and avoids' have been going on for a long time. One of my buddies in Baghdad emails that nearly each day they pull into a parking lot, drink soda, and shoot at the cans." Millard told me of soldiers he still knows in Iraq who were still performing "search and avoid" missions in December 2008. Several other friends deploying or redeploying to Iraq soon assured him that they, too, planned to operate in search and avoid mode.

Corporal Bryan Casler was first deployed to Iraq with the Marines in 2003, at the time of the invasion. Posted to Afghanistan in 2004, he returned to Iraq for another tour of duty in 2005. He tells of other low-level versions of the tactic of avoidance: "There were times we would go to fix a radio that had been down for hours. It was purposeful so we did not have to deal with the bullshit from higher [ups]. In reality, we would go so we could just chill out, let the rest of the squad catch up on some rest as one stood guard. It's mutual and people start covering for each other. Everyone knows what the hell's going on."

Staff Sergeant Ronn Cantu, an infantryman who was deployed to Iraq from March 2004 to February 2005, and again from December 2006 to January 2008, said of some of the patrols he observed while there: "[They] wouldn't go up and down the streets like they were supposed to. They would just go to a friendly compound with the Iraqi police or the Kurdish Peshmerga [militia] and stay at their compound and drink tea until it was time to go back to the base."

As a Stryker armored combat vehicle commander in Iraq from September 2004 to September 2005, Sergeant Seth Manzel had figured out a way to fabricate on screen the movement of their patrol and so could run computerized versions of a search and avoid mission. As he explained:


"Sometimes if they called us up to go and do something, we would swiftly send computer reports that we were headed in that direction. On the map we would manually place our icon to the target location and then move it back and forth to make it appear as though we were actually on the ground and patrolling. This was not an isolated case. Everyone did it. Everyone would go and hide somewhere from time to time."

Former Sergeant Josh Simpson, who served as a counter-intelligence agent in Iraq from October 2004 to October 2005, said he witnessed instances of faked movement. "I knew soldiers who learned to simulate vehicular movement on the computer screen, to create the impression of being on patrol," said Simpson. "There's no doubt that people did it."

Saying "No" One at a Time

"There was nothing to be done," Corporal Casler says of his time in Iraq, "no progress to be made there. Dissent starts as simple as saying this is bullshit. Why am I risking my life?"

Sometimes such feelings have permeated entire units and soldiers in them have refused to follow orders en masse. One of the more dramatic of these incidents occurred in July 2007. The 2nd Platoon of Charlie Company, 1st Battalion, 26th Infantry Regiment, in Baghdad had lost many men in its 11 months of deployment. After a roadside bomb killed five more, its members held a meeting and agreed that it was no longer possible for them to function professionally. Concerned that their anger might actually touch off a massacre of Iraqi civilians, they staged a quiet revolt against their commanders instead.

Kelly Kennedy, a reporter with the Military Times embedded with Charlie Company prior to the revolt, described the shape the platoon members were in by that time: "[T]hey went right to mental health and they got sleeping medications, and they basically couldn't sleep and reacted poorly. And then, they were supposed to go out on patrol again that day. And they, as a platoon, the whole platoon -- it was about 40 people -- said, 'We're not going to do it. We can't. We're not mentally there right now.'"

In response, the military broke up the platoon. Each individual involved was also "flagged" so he would not get a promotion or receive any award due.

To this day, troops in Iraq continue to be plagued by equipment and manpower shortages, and work long hours in an extreme climate. In addition, their stress levels are regularly raised by news from home of veterans returning to separations and divorces, and of a Veteran's Administration often ill-equipped and unwilling to provide appropriate physical and psychological care to veterans.

While no broad poll of troops has been conducted recently, a Zogby poll in February 2006 found that 72% of soldiers in Iraq felt the occupation should be ended within a year. My interviews with those recently back from Iraq indicate that levels of despair and disappointment are once again on the rise among troops who are beginning to realize, months after the Obama administration was ushered in, that hopes of an early withdrawal have evaporated.

With the Afghan War heating up and the Iraq War still far from over, even if fighting there is at far lower levels than at its sectarian heights in 2006 and 2007, with stress and strain on the military still on the rise, dissent and resistance are unlikely to abate. In addition to small numbers of outright public refusals to deploy or redeploy, troops are going absent without official leave (AWOL) between deployments, and actual desertions may once again be on the rise. Certainly, there's one strong indication that despair is indeed growing: the unprecedented numbers of soldiers who are committing suicide; the Army's official suicide count rose to 133 in 2008, up from 115 in 2007, itself a record since the Pentagon began keeping suicide statistics in 1980. At least 82 confirmed or suspected suicides have been reported thus far in 2009, a pace that indicates another grim record will be set; and suicide, though seldom thought of in that context, is also a form of refusal, an extreme, individual way of saying no, or simply no more.

According to Sergeant Simpson, here's how a feeling of discontent and opposition creeps up on you while you're on duty: The part of the war you're involved in, interrogating Iraqis in his case, "doesn't make any sense. You realize that the whole system is flawed and if that is flawed, then obviously the whole war is flawed. If the basic premise of the war is flawed, definitely the intelligence system that is supposed to lead us to victory is flawed. What that implies is that victory is not even a possibility."

After finishing his tour in Iraq, Simpson joined the Reserves because he believed it would grant him a two-year deferment from being called up, but he was called up anyway. In his own case, he says, "I thought to myself, I can't do this anymore. First of all, it's bad for me mentally because I'm doing something I loathe. Second, I'm participating in an organization that I wish to resist in every way I can.

"So," he says, "I just stopped showing up for drill, didn't call my unit, didn't give them any reason for it. I changed my telephone number and they did not have my address." Eventually, he reached the end date of his contract and managed to graduate from Evergreen State University in Washington. "I don't know if technically I'm still in the reserves," he told me. "I don't know what my situation is, but I don't really care either. If I go to jail, I go to jail. I'd rather go to jail than go to Iraq."

Unready and Unwilling Reserves

Sergeant Travis Bishop, who served 14 months in Baghdad with the 57th Expeditionary Signal Battalion – the same battalion as Agosto, who served north of the Iraqi capital -- recently went AWOL from his station at Fort Hood, Texas, when his unit deployed to Afghanistan. He insists that it would be unethical for him to deploy to support an occupation he opposes on moral grounds.

On his blog, he puts his position this way:


"I love my country, but I believe that this particular war is unjust, unconstitutional and a total abuse of our nation's power and influence. And so, in the next few days, I will be speaking with my lawyer, and taking actions that will more than likely result in my discharge from the military, and possible jail time... and I am prepared to live with that.... My father said, 'Do only what you can live with, because every morning you have to look at your face in the mirror when you shave. Ten years from now, you'll still be shaving the same face.' If I had deployed to Afghanistan, I don't think I would have been able to look into another mirror again."

I spoke with him briefly after he turned himself in at his base in early June. He said he'd chosen to follow Specialist Agosto's example of refusal, which had inspired him, and wanted to be present at his post to accept the consequences of his actions. He, too, hoped others might follow his lead. (He and Agosto, now in similar situations, have become friends.)

Agosto, whose hope has been to set an example of resistance for other soldiers, sees Bishop's refusal to deploy to Afghanistan as a personal success and says, "I already feel vindicated for what I'm doing by his actions. It's nice to see some immediate results."

His actions, he's convinced, have affected the way his fellow soldiers are now looking at the war in Afghanistan. "The topic has come up a lot in conversation, with soldiers on base now asking, 'What are we doing in Afghanistan? Why are we there?' People feel compelled to bring this up when I'm around. Even the ones that disagree with me say it's great what I'm doing, and that I'm doing what a lot of them don't have the courage to do. If anything, the people I work with have now been treating me better than ever."

On May 27th, rejecting an Article 15 -- a nonjudicial punishment imposed by a commanding officer who believes a member of his command has committed an offense under the Uniform Code of Military Justice -- Agosto demanded to be court-martialed.

According to Agosto, the Army has now begun the court martial process, but has not yet set a trial date. Bishop, too, awaits a possible court martial.

On June 1st, a day when four U.S. soldiers were killed in Afghanistan, Agosto told me in a phone call from Fort Hood, "I haven't had to disobey any orders lately. A sergeant asked me if it'd be okay if I had to follow orders, and I said no, and they didn't force it."

Agosto and Bishop are hardly alone. In November 2007, the Pentagon revealed that between 2003 and 2007 there had been an 80% increase in overall desertion rates in the Army (desertion refers to soldiers who go AWOL and never intend to return to service), and Army AWOL rates from 2003 to 2006 were the highest since 1980. Between 2000 and 2006, more than 40,000 troops from all branches of the military deserted, more than half from the Army. Army desertion rates jumped by 42% from 2006 to 2007 alone.

U.S. Army Specialist André Shepherd joined the Army on January 27, 2004. He was trained in Apache helicopter repair and sent first to Germany, then was stationed in Iraq from November 2004 to February 2005, before being based again in Germany. Shepherd went AWOL in southern Germany in April 2007 and lived underground until applying for asylum there in November 2008, making him the first Iraq veteran to apply for refugee status in Europe.

He, too, has refused further military service because he feels morally opposed to the occupation of Iraq. While he awaits word from the German government and is still technically AWOL, Shepherd is being supported by Courage to Resist, a group based in Oakland, California, which actively assists soldiers who refuse to deploy to Iraq or Afghanistan.

A counselor and administrative associate at that organization, Adam Szyper-Seibert, points out that "in recent months there has been a dramatic rise of nearly 200% in the number of soldiers that have contacted Courage to Resist." Szyper-Seibert suspects this may reflect the decision of the Obama administration to dramatically increase efforts, troop strength, and resources in Afghanistan. "We are actively supporting over 50 military resisters like Victor Agosto," Szyper-Seibert says. "They are all over the world, including André Shepherd in Germany and several people in Canada. We are getting five or six calls a week just about the IRR [Individual Ready Reserve] recall alone."

The IRR is composed of troops who have finished their active duty service but still have time remaining on their contracts. The typical military contract mandates four years of active duty followed by four years in the IRR, though variations on this pattern exist. Ready Reserve members live civilian lives and are not paid by the military, but they are required to show up for periodic musters. Many have moved on from military life and are enrolled in college, working civilian jobs, and building families.

At any point, however, a member of the Ready Reserve can be recalled to active duty. This policy has led to the involuntary reactivation of tens of thousands of troops to fight the ongoing wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. Lieutenant General Jack C. Stultz, the Chief of the U.S. Army Reserve and Commanding General of the U.S. Army Reserve Command, told Congress on March 3rd that, since September 11, 2001, the Army has mobilized about 28,000 from the Reserves. There have been 3,724 Marines involuntarily recalled and mobilized during that same period, according to Major Steven O'Connor, a Marine Corps spokesman. (According to Major O'Connor, as of May 2009, the Marines are no longer recalling individuals from the IRR.)

Ironically, under a new commander-in-chief whom many voters believed to be anti-war, the Army is continuing its Individual Ready Reserve recalls. "The IRR recall has not seen any change since Obama became president," Sarah Lazare, the project coordinator for Courage to Resist, says. "It's difficult to predict what the Obama administration's policy will be in the future regarding the IRR, but definitely they haven't made any moves to stop this practice."

Needing boots on the ground, according to Lazare, the military continues to fall back on the Ready Reserve system to fill the gaps: "Since these are experienced troops, many of them have already served tours in Iraq and Afghanistan." Lazare adds, "When Obama announced his Afghanistan surge, we got a huge wave of calls from soldiers saying they didn't want to be reactivated and to please help them not go."

The Future of Military Dissent

Right now, acts of dissent, refusal, and resistance in the all-volunteer military remain small-scale and scattered. Ranging from the extreme private act of suicide to avoidance of duty to actual refusal of duty, they continue to consist largely of individual acts. Present-day G.I. resistance to the occupations of Iraq and Afghanistan cannot begin to be compared with the extensive resistance movement that helped end the Vietnam War and brought an army of draftees to the point of near mutiny in the late 1960s. Nevertheless, the ongoing dissent that does exist in the U.S. military, however fragmented and overlooked at the moment, should not be discounted.

The Iraq War boils on at still dangerous levels of violence, while the war in Afghanistan (and across the border in Pakistan) only grows, as does the U.S. commitment to both. It's already clear that even an all-volunteer military isn't immune to dissent. If violence in either or both occupations escalates, if the Pentagon struggles to add more boots on the ground, if the stresses and strains on the military, involving endless redeployments to combat zones, increase rather than lessen, then the acts of Agosto, Bishop, and Shepherd may turn out to be pathbreaking ones in a world of dissent yet to be experienced and explored. Add in dissatisfaction and discontent at home if, in the coming years, American treasure continues to be poured into an Afghan quagmire, and real support for a G.I. resistance movement may surface. If so, then the early pioneers in methods of dissent within the military will have laid the groundwork for a movement.

"If we want soldiers to choose the right but difficult path, they must know beyond any shadow of a doubt that they will be supported by Americans." So said First Lieutenant Ehren Watada of the U.S. Army, the highest ranking enlisted soldier to refuse orders to deploy to Iraq. (He finally had the military charges against him dropped by the Justice Department.) The future of any such movement in the military is now unknowable, but keep your eyes open. History, even military history, holds its own surprises.

[Research support for this article was provided by the Investigative Fund at the Nation Institute.]

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Dahr Jamail, has reported from Iraq and writes for Inter Press Service, Le Monde Diplomatique, and other outlets. He is the author of Beyond the Green Zone: Dispatches from an Unembedded Journalist in Occupied Iraq and the forthcoming book The Will To Resist: Soldiers Who Refuse to Fight in Iraq and Afghanistan.

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Government sending troops to die in illegal wars.
Posted by: virgie on Jul 2, 2009 1:49 AM   
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Vee White 07,02,09, 3:42 AM

No wonder their committing sucide in iraq and afghanistan. No, down time to rest.
And knowing that what their fighting for isn't right. And innocent people being killed and our military also.
The government doesn't care as long as they have their way on things.
Why do our government cause illegal wars, you can be sure their getting some profits out of them, big time.

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Zodiac12
Posted by: zodiac12 on Jul 2, 2009 1:59 AM   
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The justification for having an army should be only for defending your Country, not for invading others. Last year in the opera Yeoman of the Guard I had the first male aria. It is set in the Tower of London and I was a Yeoman Warder who had DEFENDED his Country for many years.
"This the autumn of our life
This the evening of our day
Weary we of battle strife
Weary we of mortal fray
But our year is not so spent
And our days are not so faded
But that we with one consent
Were our 'loved land INVADED
Still would face a foreign foe
As in days of long ago"

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Yes We Can
Posted by: johnwinthrop on Jul 2, 2009 2:18 AM   
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He told you he could. You thought he was "change". I thought he was a phony.

I got slimed for speaking the truth at this site filled with closed-minded 'liberals' so consumed with Bush-hate that they were blind to a bigger danger: a killer and thief with brains.

I'll say it again. Obama is a phony. He is a deliberate liar. He is greedy. He will do and say anything to stay in power.

Anything.

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» RE: Yes We Can Posted by: Mrs. Jefferson
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» RE: Yes We Can Posted by: Sister_Lauren
» When it comes to me, personally Posted by: woodford54
» No, he cannot. Posted by: Centavo
» Obama didn't lie Posted by: Ripcord
» Like McPalin wouldn't have! Posted by: CRaPWHiSPeReR
Iraq-nam
Posted by: RICHARD RALPH ROEHL on Jul 2, 2009 2:24 AM   
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Old Coyote Knose that Rome is burning! And the Knose knows (remembers) AmeriKa's criminal, war mongering acts in Vietnam! Thus... I've been opposed to the INVASION and OCCUPATION of Iraq-nam since day one. Iraq-nam and Afghanistan-nam and Pak-a-nuke-nam are simply $cams for war profiteering. As was Korea, Vietnam, etc.

And I DON'T SUPPORT the glorious [sic] troops either. The damn troops are actually part of the problem! AmeriKa's troops are nothing more than agents for the military industrial complex (the Pentagon)... which $erves and $upports corp-rat war profiteering for Wall $treet, etc.

Sadly... America has become corp-rat fascist AmeriKa! And AmeriKa has morphed into an evil, war mongering beast that preys upon the world. This terrible beast must be stopped... lest the world will die.

Be sure and spell my name correctly for the files... you traitorous bastards. You not only betray your fellow citizens (most of them waddling their fat, faster poo food asses into Wal-Mart to buy $ugar pop Coke water in petro-chemical bottles), but you betray the whole world. Worst of all... you betray your children and grandchildren. You betray yourself!

Wake the hell up! When will YOU jingoist jerks stop thinking like EWE?

Not that any of this matters. The United $tates will not exist in fifty earth years. The DOCTRINE OF PERPETUAL GROWTH of the human population and the global consumer economy on Planet Over-Birth Earth, a fragile HOST ORGANISM of finite space and finite resources, cannot be sustain much longer. Perpetual growth in a closed looped system (the Earth) is not progress. It is cancer!

Humankind (a.k.a.: ewe-man-unkind) has less than ten earth years left to stop the wars and come to your senses. After that... the road toward a major extinction event becomes irreversible. Old Coyote Knose!

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Well, these people obviously aren't in the Marines...
Posted by: jimidee on Jul 2, 2009 4:19 AM   
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"The Marines I have seen around the world have the cleanest bodies, the filthiest minds, the highest morale, and the lowest morals of any group of animals I have ever seen. Thank God for the United States Marine Corps!"

- 1st Lady, Eleanor Roosevelt.

"Some people wonder all their lives if they've made a difference. The Marines don't have that problem."

- President Ronald Reagan.

"There are only two kinds of people that understand Marines: Marines and the enemy. Everyone else has a second-hand opinion."

- Gen. William Thornson, U.S. Army

Marines I see as two breeds, Rottweilers or Dobermans, because Marines come in two varieties, big and mean, or skinny and mean. They're aggressive on the attack and tenacious on defense. They've got really short hair and they always go for the throat.

- Rear Admiral, J.R. Stark, USN 1995

"The wonderful love of a beautiful maid,
The love of a staunch true man,
The love of a baby, unafraid,
Have existed since time began.

But the greatest of loves, The quintessence of loves.
even greater than that of a mother,
Is the tender, passionate, infinite love,
of one drunken Marine for another.

Semper Fidelis"

General Louis H. Wilson
Commandant of the Marine Corps
Toast given at 203rd Marine Corps Birthday Ball
Camp Lejeune, N.C. 1978

Semper Fi

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» LOL Posted by: CRaPWHiSPeReR
Dahr Jamail, you are part of the Investigative Fund? Investigate 911
Posted by: pfgetty on Jul 2, 2009 4:35 AM   
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If you do not like the idea that our men are fighting in Afghanistan, and you think it is unnecessary, and you want it to stop, use your investigative skills and expose the whole reason for our being in Afghanistan: 911.

The attacks of 911 are the rationale for the illegal wars and occupations, rendition, torture, wiretapping, etc etc.
But it is all based on lies we were told about that day.
You should already know that. If you don't, go to www.911truth.org or www.ae911truth.org. Join up with thousands of others at www.patriotsquestion911.net.

If you already know that the official story of 911 is a lie, then please tell us about it. Investigate it fully, and bring the truth to the American people.

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» More fact-free nonsense? Posted by: GuitarBill
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» Tell us about it, conspiranoid. Posted by: GuitarBill
Bring back the Draft
Posted by: Hiroak on Jul 2, 2009 5:20 AM   
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The draft or a compulsory National Service would stop the bullshit wars as the rich folks would pitch a hissy fit if Johnny or Joan were dragged from Vanderbilt, Harvard, Yale or wherever the rich brats go to fraternize and pretend to get an education before they are hired by dad to make their millions.

It would also serve to destratify our population and Rich folks would get to know regular people (those without trust funds who have to get real jobs) and we would be a better nation for it.

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» Excactly! Bring back the draft! Posted by: zooeyhall
It's Deja Vu All Over Again
Posted by: Ishmael1 on Jul 2, 2009 5:55 AM   
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I served in the US Navy in the closing months of the Vietnam War. I joined the Navy primarily because I was in the last years of the draft and had a lottery number of 5. I figured I'd never heard of the North Vietnamese Navy except for that pesky Tonkin Gulf thing at the beginning. This piece and the many I've read about the subject before remind me so much of that time. What makes it worse for these poor bastards is the knowledge that, in Vietnam, troops only had to serve one tour in the combat zone instead of the multiple combat tours these guys are subjected to.

Combine that with the rise of the corporate mercenary armies with the mercs getting paid 20-30 times what the poor dogfaces are paid and you have a recipe for disaster. What surprises me is that there hasn't been any fragging of mercenaries by regular troops or situations where the mercs get in a fire fight and are left on their own by the regular army. At the same time, mercs have no rules of engagement and are immune from prosecution for their combat behavior while regular troops face court-martial and imprisonment if THEY engage in the same behavior.

My advice to these guys is to apply for conscientious objector status right away and en masse. If troops did this en masse at the platoon and company levels while publicizing it to the alternative media, the word WOULD get out enough to prevent the brass from breaking their units to deal with them piecemeal.

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» RE: It's Deja Vu All Over Again Posted by: Mrs. Jefferson
» RE: It's Deja Vu All Over !!! Posted by: Babygoat
It's not the Iraq war, it's the Iraq oilfield occupation.
Posted by: gunboat diplomat on Jul 2, 2009 6:56 AM   
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Still in progress!

www.iraqslogger.com "Misrepresentation of the Withdrawal"

In the past few weeks, US military spokesmen have flatly refused to give any numbers of how many GIs will remain in the cities, or even how many bases will remain in Iraq.

In a press briefing last Wednesday, Brig. Gen. Stephen R. Lanza said that, “Over 150 US bases have been closed down in Iraq,” but when asked how many were to remain, he refused to answer, saying “Numbers aren’t important,” (after which, he mentioned the 150 which had been closed two more times). Requests by Iraqslogger for the number of remaining functional US bases in Iraq were declined by military press officers via e-mail.

Just nine days prior, on June 15, Gen. Odierno said, “We had approximately 460 bases (in September of last year); we are now down to about 320.”

Sometime during those nine days, a decision was apparently made to stop giving all numbers out, in preparation for the media coverage of the transition. Since then, the media have had to fight harder than usual to get enough of a grasp at what is happening to report on it clearly. The lack of clear information has made inaccurate characterization of the rules governing US forces very easy.


Hmmm... wonder what that means?

Strategic deception is still all the rage, isn't it? At home and abroad, and more widespread than you might think... you can always tell the plants by their smirkiness, isn't that right... Dahr?

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Thanks, Dahr
Posted by: doodahman on Jul 2, 2009 8:02 AM   
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Hey, been reading your dispatches from Iraq since '03-- thanks for undertaking such a dangerous and important task. I know many of us used your information to post our arguments on blogs and other internet sites, and hopefully together we've had some kind of impact.

Keep on trucking, brother. We're right behind ya.

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been there
Posted by: solrev on Jul 2, 2009 8:31 AM   
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Fragem if you gotem.

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» RE: been there Posted by: willymack
gimmie shelter
Posted by: gimmie shelter on Jul 2, 2009 8:47 AM   
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We have reached a point in this country where the lies told to us in the past no longer work. Most of us used to believe in what we thought our country stood for, now many of us can no longer feel so secure, our hopes that our children will share in what this once great nation had to offer is now in jeopardy.

Any soldier who feels the need to answer to a higher authority or even to themselves on these wars is still a hero in my eyes. Unlike them I never took the time to devote myself to our nation because I always thought that our military and government was careless and even treasonous in the use of our soldiers. When I was young I used to walk past my home towns bulletin board in front of the town hall and as time marched on the number of new names for those killed in Vietnam grew. I remembered then that these neighbors were not dying to protect the U.S. but were dying for an ideology which was never worth it and never directly threatened us.

In a real emergency I would pick up arms in defense of our nation or family but never for the crap reasons our corrupt government drums up to feed the corporate and military thirst.

I salute all our military including those who can no longer believe the reasons why they are there. Thank You for your service and for your personal strength.

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» RE: gimmie shelter Posted by: Dak
The merceneries, hired by the US
Posted by: Babygoat on Jul 2, 2009 8:52 AM   
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are getting paid more than our military and furnished better weapons and food. At a two to one ratio do you think that the Gov isn't preparing for a military dissent? At the rate their going, a United States Military will be soon obsolete! The Industrial-Military Complex warning by Eisenhower was not just a warning...it was true and is coming to pass.

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» Open your eyes a little Posted by: CRaPWHiSPeReR
As usual
Posted by: willymack on Jul 2, 2009 8:54 AM   
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The comments were insightful and witty. Bet you couldn't wait to see what I have to say, huh? Well, I'm going to tell you anyway.
First, the draft is IMMORAL, and as evil as slavery. I don't think I have to elaborate on that one.
Second, We should have NEVER invaded Iraq and Afghanistan. Is there ANYONE out there who STILL believes the cheney/bush lies about those two nations? If there is, the men with the nets are looking for you.
Third, There is a group of some very bad people who want us to be constantly at war with some apocryphal "ememy", because there's MONEY to be made from it. These bad guys are conspicuous by their absence from the combat zone
Nineteen eighty four is here. It just took a little longer to happen than Orwell thought it would:
War is Peace
Freedom is Slavery
Ignorance is Strength

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» RE: Bad people Posted by: Sister_Lauren
I see we learned nothing from the Vietnam atrocity! Stage some false-flag terrorism like...
Posted by: JohnTruth2001 on Jul 2, 2009 9:26 AM   
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Gulf of Tonkin or 9/11, use it to whip the sheeple into a frenzy, and the military/industrial complex gets to go on decade-long rampages!!!

Wake-up already!!!

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Specialist Victor Agosto
Posted by: xmvince on Jul 2, 2009 9:43 AM   
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Specialist Victor Agosto is a hero in my book.

He can SEE!!

If only we had more people in power that could SEE.

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Specialist Agosto
Posted by: Quannah on Jul 2, 2009 10:11 AM   
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has this whole thing pegged. Perfectly.

"Yes, I'm fully prepared for this. I have concluded that the wars [in Iraq and Afghanistan] are not going to be ended by politicians or people at the top. They're not responsive to people, they're responsive to corporate America. The only way to make them responsive to the needs of the people is for soldiers to not fight their wars. If soldiers won't fight their wars, the wars won't happen. I hope I'm setting an example for other soldiers."

Truer words have never been spoken! And I'm sure he is setting an example.

This insanity needs to end NOW!

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» The insanity will not end Posted by: Eddie Van Helsing
Adam Kokesh of IVAW needs your help!
Posted by: CUnknown on Jul 2, 2009 12:35 PM   
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Adam Kokesh of Iraqi Veterans Against the War is a leader in the anti-war movement today. He is running for Congress in New Mexico, and he needs our help. This July 4th, we are organizing a money bomb to get him started with the cash he'll need to win. Anything you can send will get us that much closer to having a real voice of resistance in Congress, along with Dennis Kucinich and Ron Paul. It's the most patriotic thing you'll do all day. :)

I have a feeling that this money bomb could be big, so there's also the fun of making history as well if you join with us and donate this July 4th.

This July 4th

www.kokeshforcongress.com


This July 4th, do something for your country and maybe make history for the biggest group donation to a Congressional race in one day. But more importantly, help us end the wars!

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refusal to deploy?
Posted by: hirondelle on Jul 2, 2009 2:57 PM   
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tell that to the families of Brits, Canadians and other NATO men and women whose children have already died, deployed by their leaders to assist America in yet another of it's attacks on other nations. We poke our collective nose in far too many other people's business and Joe SixPacks are the fools that pay the price.

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However, Iraq is not Afghanistan
Posted by: gunboat diplomat on Jul 2, 2009 4:24 PM   
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Since the author uses Watada as an example, please note that Watada said he would deploy to Afghanistan, but not to Iraq.

That's because the Afghan Taliban 'government' protected and defended the actions of Osama bid Ladin and his lieutenants in plotting the four airline hijackings and suicide crashes that took place on September 11, 2001.

This is patently obvious, by the way. The real anti-war resistance in the U.S. military is to the idiotic occupation of Iraq, not to the perfectly legitimate if delayed and betrayed efforts in Afghanistan.

Don't know what I'm talking about?

60minutes/main4494937


Delta developed an audacious plan to come at bin Laden from the one direction he would never expect.

"We want to come in on the back door," Fury explains. "The original plan that we sent up through our higher headquarters, Delta Force wants to come in over the mountain with oxygen, coming from the Pakistan side, over the mountains and come in and get a drop on bin Laden from behind."

But they didn't take that route, because Fury says they didn't get approval from a higher level. "Whether that was Central Command all the way up to the president of the United States, I'm not sure," he says.

The next option that Delta wanted to employ was to drop hundreds of landmines in the mountain passes that led to Pakistan, which was bin Laden’s escape route.

"First guy blows his leg off, everybody else stops. That allows aircraft overhead to find them. They see all these heat sources out there. Okay, there a big large group of Al Qaeda moving south. They can engage that," Fury explains.

But they didn't do that either, because Fury says that plan was also disapproved. He says he has "no idea" why.

"How often does Delta come up with a tactical plan that's disapproved by higher headquarters?" Pelley asks.

"In my experience, in my five years at Delta, never before," Fury says.


Now, if they had captured OBL and his gang in Afghanistan in 2001-2002, would there have been as much of an excuse to attack Iraq?

No - they didn't give a shit about Afghanistan, they just wanted to use the event as an excuse to invade Iraq. Oh yes, the anthrax attacks - the taboo topic for the corporate media and the non-profit foundations. The FBI is still pursuing its coverup of that event, you know.

They, of course, means the war criminals in Washington, with Cheney and Rumsfeld at the top of the list.

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» RE: However, Iraq is not Afghanistan Posted by: login@bugmenot.com
This is what we need...
Posted by: bnvasquez on Jul 3, 2009 8:45 PM   
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We need for the people in the military to stand up for what they think is right. Yes they signed up for the job, but seriously, 8 years has gotten us where? I hope this sudden rise in dissent will gain more media attention, because I haven't really seen it.

I am really interested to see how Obama will respond to any more dissent. And, as always, I'm particularly interested in any actions taken in the next 3 years.

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Troops know it's an OCCUAPTION or OCCUPATIONS .
Posted by: Kahoneez on Jul 4, 2009 2:20 PM   
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It's the pain of empire building , to the military Industrial complex and their puppet masters , Kissenger , the Bankers these guys are nothing more than cattle to order around and with Obama the Empire building continues and getting worst for the troops .
More bases and troops in Afghanistan And Obama is sending more to Africa , building more bases , doing more spc. ops w/ Ugandan dictator , Ethiopian military , their proxy army attacking Somalia .
You support the troops by not sending them overseas to operate bases in foreign lands , where they are not wanted , but Obama supports Empire building .

And while AIPAC rep . Wolf Blitzer is reading the teleprompter , defending Israel lying by omission , parroting Pentagon talking points , like the complicit coward he is , DAHR JAMAIL , a real JOURNALIST , GOES to Fallujah and talks to residents , imagine that , TALKS to the PEOPLE , who tell them of Marines bashing through doors , machine gunning down whole FAMILIES , while a little girl hides behind a dresser . Clinics blown up , doctors arrested , every animal on the street shot , can't let those pesky germs spread And water trucks coming through to wash away the White Phosphorus used on the city .

DAHR JAMAIL is not only a real journalist , he's a GREAT ONE , unlike the sycophants like Couric , Blitzer , Williams all little trolls spewing their pentagon talking points , hiding the true costs of Empire Building .

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Sir! No Sir! - The GI Revolt (2005)
Posted by: DignityForAll on Jul 5, 2009 4:35 AM   
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Documentary about active-duty war resistance during the Vietnam War.

Google Video

www.sirnosir.com

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This is what REAL bravery looks like
Posted by: CRaPWHiSPeReR on Jul 7, 2009 2:15 AM   
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Thank you for the courage to set an example for others that citizens in this country are not worthless and are not expendible!

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wussys
Posted by: dailykook79 on Jul 11, 2009 6:30 AM   
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You guys need some cheese with that whine?

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