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Is Israel's Aggression a Question of Pride?
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Suppose Barack Obama really does want to herd the Israelis and Palestinians into serious, fruitful peace negotiations. How could he, or anyone, hope to get an agreement from these seemingly intractable enemies? Two researchers think they've found at least the beginning of an answer.
They asked nearly 4,000 Israelis and Palestinians what kind of peace deal they would accept. When they proposed "rational" bargains, like land for peace or sharing control of Jerusalem, the answers were generally negative. For both sides, the researchers found, the real sticking points are about values that people hold sacred. The tangible issues -- land, resources, political control, and the like -- are only symbols of these sacred values.
That's the best way for the U.S. to understand -- Israeli relations emerging over "natural growth" in the West Bank settlements. In itself it's a relatively small matter. "Natural growth" boosted the settler population by only 3 percent in 2007. Settler families that expand could easily move and find housing elsewhere, as all other expanding Israeli families do.
But the Obama administration has chosen this particular issue as the symbolic gesture Israel must make. And the Israeli government has responded by making "natural growth" the new symbol of all Israel's sacred values.
If they have to give up settlement expansion, what will they have to give up next, they ask. Jerusalem? The Jews' right to have their own state? Perhaps even the state of Israel itself? A people with such a long history of persecution might very well be afraid of losing everything the Jews hold dear. That fear could well explain their intransigence.
Except that's not quite what the research shows. For Israelis -- and for Palestinians -- the crux of the conflict is not about what values each side is afraid of losing and wants to protect. It's about how much they can force the other side to give up.
Most of the respondents on each side demanded a settlement "that involved their enemies making symbolic but difficult gestures." The respondents said they would make concessions as long as "the other side agreed to a symbolic sacrifice of one of its sacred values."
What sacred values? The researchers offered only examples of actions: Palestinians want an apology from the Jews, while Jews want recognition of Israel's right to exist. But what are the deeper values symbolized by these actions? And why is forcing sacrifice from the other side the crucial goal?
I don't know much about the Palestinians. But having grown up in an observant Jewish home, been active in Jewish community life, studied and taught the history of Judaism for decades, and had close relatives living in Israel for decades, I have a pretty good idea of the values driving the Jewish side of the conflict.
One of the key values, perhaps the most important of all, is national pride. And the most cherished symbol of pride is a victory over an enemy -- forcing it to give up something, anything, that symbolizes a loss of its pride.
I first saw this clearly on Yom Kippur 1973. I was in synagogue, observing the holiest day of the Jewish year, when I heard that the Egyptians had crossed the Suez Canal and attacked the Israeli troops stationed on the other side. My immediate response was something like this:
The Israelis are at the Suez Canal because they captured the Sinai Peninsula in the Six Day War in 1967. Why do the Egyptians want the Sinai back? It's a barren desert with no resources of any value. So I jumped to the conclusion (as a young man I was quicker to make assumptions about people I didn't know or understand) that the Egyptians did not want the land back. They wanted their national pride back. They had been humiliated in '67, and now they were going to recoup their self-esteem.
Therefore, I said, the Israelis can gain a huge advantage by withdrawing to the 1967 border, letting Egypt have the Sinai, throwing up their hands and crying "We lost!" They would have lost nothing of value. The Egyptians would be content. The way would be open for peace and security.
A few years later, the Israelis did give Sinai back to Egypt as part of a peace deal, and few Israelis expressed any regrets. How much easier to have done it on Yom Kippur 1973 and saved all that bloodshed.
But when I shared my logical solution with others in the synagogue, they simply didn't get it. I had no more success with my best friend, as I drove him to JFK Airport so he could fly back to Israel and rejoin his army unit for the Sinai war. To most Jews then, as to most Jews now, it was just obvious that when the enemy attacks, you fight back and inflict a loss on the attacker. That's how you bolster your national pride.
Is national pride a truly sacred value? Few Jews will say so directly. But for many Israeli Jews, and for most American Jews since the Six Day War, religion and nationalism have been intertwined. The theologian Emil Fackenheim fused them in his very influential idea that, since the Holocaust, God has given the Jews a new commandment that trumps all others: The Jewish people must survive as a distinct people, or else Hitler's goal of a Jew-free world will be realized.
Now Israel is the fundamental symbol of Jewish survival. So Israel's war victories have an "inescapably religious dimension" because they keep Israel safe from destruction.
But when I heard Fackenheim speak a few years after the Yom Kippur war, I discovered that his real belief was rather different. Someone in the audience asked a question: "You say that Israel must fight its enemies to insure Jewish survival. Yet what guarantee is there that Israel will win every war and always insure Jewish survival?"
The distinguished theologian gave this rather shocking reply: "There is no guarantee. Israel may indeed be destroyed. But the important point is that next time we will go down fighting."
There was no need to spell out the obvious implication: If we go down fighting, we can feel proud of ourselves, even if the last Jew disappears from the earth. Survival is not as sacred to us as pride, and pride comes from fighting the enemy. "Never Again" means never again will we let ourselves be shamefully herded to slaughter without resisting to the last woman and man.
This commitment has always been a central pillar of Israeli life. The widely admired, recently deceased Israeli author Amos Elon wrote (in his 1971 best-seller, The Israelis) that the memory of the Holocaust "explains the obsessive suspicion [and] the towering urge for self-reliance" that marks Israeli Jews. But he added that the same memory also plagues Israelis with "a suspended confusion, a neurotic constriction ... compounded by pangs of conscience, guilt and shame."
Israeli children are taught in school about "the disgraceful shame and cowardice" of all victims of anti-Semitic massacres in the Diaspora, to convince them that only a Jewish state with an invincible army could take away the shame. And Israelis exaggerate the degree of Jewish resistance to the Nazis because it "seems essential to their dignity as a group."
Elon knew that the theme of shame and pride lay at the very root of Zionism. In his biography of Theodore Herzl, he claimed that the father of the Zionist movement was motivated, above all, by "wounded pride" -- being denied what he thought was his rightful place among the elite of European society, simply because he was Jewish. Herzl was well aware that he was making national pride a sacred symbol. He urged the early Zionists to "turn the Jewish question into a question of Zion."
Even earlier, the first important Zionist writer, Leo Pinsker, told the Jews (in his famous tract "Self-Emancipation"): "You are foolish, because you expect of human nature something which it has never had -- humanity. You are also contemptible, because you have no real self-esteem and no national self-respect. National self-respect! Where can we find it?" Pinsker's answer, the answer of most Zionists ever since, was: only in a nation-state of our own.
Pinsker's words and Herzl's wounded pride reveal one root of the profound dilemma that has kept Israel trapped in a seemingly irrational cycle of intransigence and conflict for all these years. It is shameful and contemptible to let oneself fall victim to persecution, the argument goes. But Gentiles will always be persecutors. So Jews living in Diaspora will always feel shame and self-contempt. The mistake that Pinsker, Herzl and most other Zionists made was to assume that a state of their own would free them from this trap.
Instead, the state became a projection of the individual Jew, writ large. And the surrounding Arab nations became projections of individual Gentiles. Since Gentiles were by definition persecutors (according to the dominant Zionist worldview), the inevitable political conflicts between Israel and neighboring Arab peoples were bound to be seen as merely more of the same old persecution and victimization, bringing with it the same sense of shame.
Every tangible goal of Israeli policy became a symbol of the ultimate goal: defeating the Gentiles in order to escape from shame, to gain pride and self-respect.
Today, Israel pursues that aim by demanding the right of "natural growth" in its West Bank settlements. In other words, Israel wants the Palestinians to accept not merely the settlements that exist, but the larger settlements planned for the future, along with abandoning Jerusalem and the right of return. Inevitably, the Palestinians balk at such drastic sacrifices.
For most Jews, every such refusal becomes further "evidence" that the Palestinians are moved by the same irrational anti-Semitism that Jews suffered in Diaspora. To fail to resist it would only increase the sense of shame. So resist the Jews must, no matter what the rest of the world thinks of such intransigence. Indeed, since the rest of the world is Gentile, defying world opinion reaps the benefit of added pride.
And what if the other side does accede to Israeli demands? When the researchers asked Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu about a rational bargain -- accepting a two-state solution in return for all major Palestinian factions (including Hamas) recognizing Israel as a Jewish state -- he answered by demanding further sacrifice: "O.K., but the Palestinians would have to show that they sincerely mean it, change their textbooks and anti-Semitic characterizations."
There's more here than distrust of the enemy. Since the whole process is in the realm of symbolism, no tangible gain may ever be enough.
The ideology formulated by Pinsker has become a viciously self-confirming cycle. Israeli leaders fear that anything less than intransigence will cost them dearly at the polls. Unable to turn from resistance to reconciliation, they lock their nation into ongoing conflict and all the insecurity it brings.
Most Israelis do feel insecure. They fear that Palestinians and other Arabs will attack them, if given a chance. But a mere glance at the immense military advantage Israel has over all its neighbors makes that fear seem irrational.
It all becomes far more understandable if we recognize that what most Israelis fear, above all, is losing not their land or even their lives, but their very tenuous sense of national pride. Couple that with a natural desire to blame all the problems on the other side, so that Jews can feel morally pure and innocent, and it's hard to see how they can break out of this vicious cycle.
Are Palestinians caught in the same trap? The researchers who studied both sides found them equally focused on inflicting symbolic defeats on the other side. Perhaps Palestinians are as afraid, as are Israelis, of losing their pride. Perhaps that's why Hamas leaders resist formal recognition of Israel, even though they have clearly signaled their de facto acceptance of the Jewish state for several years and affirm the same view now. But that is for Palestinians and those who know them well to say. If it does turn out that the two sides are mirror images of each other, the conflict might seem even more insoluble.
Yet, the researchers who collected all this data suggest a more hopeful view. Once mediators from outside, like George Mitchell, the U.S. special envoy to the Middle East, and former British Prime Minister Tony Blair, understand that all the tangible issues in dispute are basically counters in a symbolic contest, they can begin to work with both sides more constructively.
In principle, anything can serve equally well as a symbolic counter. So no specific issue need be a sticking point. A truly skilled mediator could identify assets that each side could afford to lose, from a practical point of view, and suggest that they be sacrificed in a show of graceful concession.
Then each side could do what I wish the Israelis had done way back in 1973: throw up its hands, cry "We lost!" this or that or some other thing, and give the other side a reason to feel proud of its victory. As implausible as it sounds, that may be the only way to Middle East peace.
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Posted by: saadasim on Jun 11, 2009 1:49 AM
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B. The Arabs, now seeing the Israeli issue resolved, would turn to their own leadership and want changes towards more democratization and freedom. The Arab governments, unable to divert people's attention, would have their own corruption and nepotism exposed.
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"...there was kind of a split in the American government as to whether we should join the broad international consensus on a political settlement, or block a political settlement. And in that internal struggle, the hard-liners prevailed; Kissinger was the main spokesman. The policy that won out was what he called 'stalemate': keep things the way they are, maintain the system of Israeli oppression. And there was a good reason for that, it wasn't just out of the blue: having an embattled, militaristic Israel is an important part of how we rule the world."
At the same time, neither the Israeli nor the Palestinian government inspire my confidence.
I think the problem with the USA, the problem with Israel, the problem with the Palestinians, is that the people are out of touch with their leadership. Their governments aren't democratic, and the leadership is corrupt. Until that changes, things won't change.
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Posted by: AMERICAN VETERAN on Jun 11, 2009 6:41 AM
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It IS a question of hateful, angry bullying bastards who USE the holocaust as an excuse to murder women and LITTLE CHILDREN because they are filled with self hate due to what they REALLY are.
They are so filled with hate that they are both afraid and unable to look at themselves.
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Posted by: otto on Jun 11, 2009 7:30 AM
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Posted by: beeden on Jun 11, 2009 8:27 AM
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The "settlement" expansion always seems to come after numerous atrocities have been committed on Palestinian citizens. These so called "settlements" should instead be renamed "Atrocity Expansions", given the Palestinian women, children, elderly and men who are violently forced from their land, often being maimed in the process, and often losing loved ones as well, so that these "fine residences" can be established.
In addition there is the daily, criminal persecution and destruction of economic life in Palestine, through reduced passage of goods, whether food, medical, or for business. All restrictions going against International Agreements put in place for the creation of the new state of Israel after the Second World War.
"Indeed, since the rest of the world is Gentile, defying world opinion reaps the benefit of added pride."
Indeed their were millions other than the Jewish people during the Second World War who gave up their lives, or were forever maimed and damaged as a consequence of fighting the Nazi's tyranny. They managed to win through and rescue those remaining in the concentration camps, however those who fought to reach that point lie scattered dead all over Europe, and those wounded still bear their scars. Israeli pride is such that it denies the role "Gentiles" played in their release from captivity, and denies that they behave as Nazis with their malnourished Palestinian children's neighbours, their cruel experiments with the pregnant Palestinian mothers at border crossings, their covetous greed for Palestinian land outside the UN designated borders, and their wanton destruction of the Palestinian communities' libraries, schools, hospitals and other vital infrastructure.
As survivors of the Holocaust, this new chapter in Jewish History is far more shameful than any under the Nazis, because at this point in time the guiding ideology of violence is an abiding apartheid system based on the Jewish heritage rather than an Aryan heritage.
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Posted by: Spiritgirl on Jun 11, 2009 8:40 AM
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I say the US should divest from Israel, this would accomplish (1)bringing the Israelis to the negotiating table more willing to compromise, and (2)assure both sides that the US is willing to be an honest broker for PEACE!
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Posted by: joels@nccray on Jun 11, 2009 9:10 AM
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Israel is not, and never has been, the "aggressor"' but rather is simply defending itself.
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From what I saw, the gist of this article is correct. There is a term--coined by some US politician years ago, his name escapes me--that fits the situation well. All of the people in this region are "Victicrats." It is a term that is a perfect fit for the cultures of the area.
The term comes from combining two words, the Latin victim (animal for sacrifice), and the Greek suffix -crat (from Kratos-participant in or supporter of a specified government or ruling body). Putting the two together comes up with the entirely appropriate term "Victicrat."
From what I personally observed, all sides, Israeli, Palestinian, Arab, Druze, all of them, constantly push each other the the limits of tolerance for what appears to be the goal of provoking some sort of reaction. Once the reaction is provoked, the provokers can play the persecuted victim to justify their original provocation.
It is a vicious, never-ending cycle of provocation and retaliation that continues in a circle that will, at best, be very difficult to break. Until that circle is broken there will never be peace in the region. It is an ingrained cultural reality for all of the peoples in the region.
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Posted by: Aquinas on Jun 11, 2009 11:37 AM
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As they say in 'Joisey', I got your jewish pride, right here!
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Precarious Dominance Theory can be used to explain why certain groups are supported (by others) and fiercely insist that they must retain dominance over another group in order to survive. This group (a minority) believes that their dominance (usually over a majority group) must be maintained or that the majority group will simply wipe them out if given the chance. The way that they retain this dominance is varied; it can be through a political system; military, logistical, economic, or technological might; or through the support (and often threat of force or sanctions) from an outside group or groups. Continued dominance over other groups tends to further exacerbate the dominated group's grievances against the minority, which reinforces the perceived need for maintaining that dominance. The "barbarians at the gates" must always be kept out, and support for the minority group's power has to be constantly reinforced, lest the majority will simply roll over the minority. As to whether the theory is actually true in a given situation depends on the particulars of that situation. In some cases, the threat is real and dominance must in fact be maintained until some other option becomes available to equalize the sides, or nullify the issue altogether. In others, the belief may be mistaken, and there would be little chance that the aggrieved group would in fact retaliate if dominance was removed. In any case, there are several real world examples (mostly in current and former apartheid states) to illustrate the concept.
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Posted by: saadasim on Jun 11, 2009 1:49 AM
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B. The Arabs, now seeing the Israeli issue resolved, would turn to their own leadership and want changes towards more democratization and freedom. The Arab governments, unable to divert people's attention, would have their own corruption and nepotism exposed.
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"...there was kind of a split in the American government as to whether we should join the broad international consensus on a political settlement, or block a political settlement. And in that internal struggle, the hard-liners prevailed; Kissinger was the main spokesman. The policy that won out was what he called 'stalemate': keep things the way they are, maintain the system of Israeli oppression. And there was a good reason for that, it wasn't just out of the blue: having an embattled, militaristic Israel is an important part of how we rule the world."
At the same time, neither the Israeli nor the Palestinian government inspire my confidence.
I think the problem with the USA, the problem with Israel, the problem with the Palestinians, is that the people are out of touch with their leadership. Their governments aren't democratic, and the leadership is corrupt. Until that changes, things won't change.
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It IS a question of hateful, angry bullying bastards who USE the holocaust as an excuse to murder women and LITTLE CHILDREN because they are filled with self hate due to what they REALLY are.
They are so filled with hate that they are both afraid and unable to look at themselves.
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The "settlement" expansion always seems to come after numerous atrocities have been committed on Palestinian citizens. These so called "settlements" should instead be renamed "Atrocity Expansions", given the Palestinian women, children, elderly and men who are violently forced from their land, often being maimed in the process, and often losing loved ones as well, so that these "fine residences" can be established.
In addition there is the daily, criminal persecution and destruction of economic life in Palestine, through reduced passage of goods, whether food, medical, or for business. All restrictions going against International Agreements put in place for the creation of the new state of Israel after the Second World War.
"Indeed, since the rest of the world is Gentile, defying world opinion reaps the benefit of added pride."
Indeed their were millions other than the Jewish people during the Second World War who gave up their lives, or were forever maimed and damaged as a consequence of fighting the Nazi's tyranny. They managed to win through and rescue those remaining in the concentration camps, however those who fought to reach that point lie scattered dead all over Europe, and those wounded still bear their scars. Israeli pride is such that it denies the role "Gentiles" played in their release from captivity, and denies that they behave as Nazis with their malnourished Palestinian children's neighbours, their cruel experiments with the pregnant Palestinian mothers at border crossings, their covetous greed for Palestinian land outside the UN designated borders, and their wanton destruction of the Palestinian communities' libraries, schools, hospitals and other vital infrastructure.
As survivors of the Holocaust, this new chapter in Jewish History is far more shameful than any under the Nazis, because at this point in time the guiding ideology of violence is an abiding apartheid system based on the Jewish heritage rather than an Aryan heritage.
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Posted by: Spiritgirl on Jun 11, 2009 8:40 AM
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I say the US should divest from Israel, this would accomplish (1)bringing the Israelis to the negotiating table more willing to compromise, and (2)assure both sides that the US is willing to be an honest broker for PEACE!
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Israel is not, and never has been, the "aggressor"' but rather is simply defending itself.
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From what I saw, the gist of this article is correct. There is a term--coined by some US politician years ago, his name escapes me--that fits the situation well. All of the people in this region are "Victicrats." It is a term that is a perfect fit for the cultures of the area.
The term comes from combining two words, the Latin victim (animal for sacrifice), and the Greek suffix -crat (from Kratos-participant in or supporter of a specified government or ruling body). Putting the two together comes up with the entirely appropriate term "Victicrat."
From what I personally observed, all sides, Israeli, Palestinian, Arab, Druze, all of them, constantly push each other the the limits of tolerance for what appears to be the goal of provoking some sort of reaction. Once the reaction is provoked, the provokers can play the persecuted victim to justify their original provocation.
It is a vicious, never-ending cycle of provocation and retaliation that continues in a circle that will, at best, be very difficult to break. Until that circle is broken there will never be peace in the region. It is an ingrained cultural reality for all of the peoples in the region.
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As they say in 'Joisey', I got your jewish pride, right here!
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Posted by: knarf on Jun 11, 2009 8:35 PM
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Posted by: spencerh on Jun 12, 2009 5:06 PM
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Precarious Dominance Theory can be used to explain why certain groups are supported (by others) and fiercely insist that they must retain dominance over another group in order to survive. This group (a minority) believes that their dominance (usually over a majority group) must be maintained or that the majority group will simply wipe them out if given the chance. The way that they retain this dominance is varied; it can be through a political system; military, logistical, economic, or technological might; or through the support (and often threat of force or sanctions) from an outside group or groups. Continued dominance over other groups tends to further exacerbate the dominated group's grievances against the minority, which reinforces the perceived need for maintaining that dominance. The "barbarians at the gates" must always be kept out, and support for the minority group's power has to be constantly reinforced, lest the majority will simply roll over the minority. As to whether the theory is actually true in a given situation depends on the particulars of that situation. In some cases, the threat is real and dominance must in fact be maintained until some other option becomes available to equalize the sides, or nullify the issue altogether. In others, the belief may be mistaken, and there would be little chance that the aggrieved group would in fact retaliate if dominance was removed. In any case, there are several real world examples (mostly in current and former apartheid states) to illustrate the concept.
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