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After U.S. Strikes, Afghans Describe 'Tractor Trailers Full of Pieces of Human Bodies'
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As President Barack Obama prepares to send some 21,000 more U.S. troops into Afghanistan, anger is rising in the western province of Farah, the scene of a U.S. bombing massacre that may have killed as many as 130 Afghans, including 13 members of one family. At least six houses were bombed and among the dead and wounded are women and children. As of this writing reports indicate some people remain buried in rubble. The U.S. airstrikes happened on Monday and Tuesday. Just hours after Obama met with U.S.-backed president Hamid Karzai Wednesday, hundreds of Afghans -- perhaps as many as 2,000 -- poured into the streets of the provincial capital, chanting "Death to America.” The protesters demanded a U.S. withdrawal from Afghanistan.
In Washington, Karzai said he and the U.S. occupation forces should operate from a "higher platform of morality," saying, "We must be conducting this war as better human beings," and recognize that "force won’t buy you obedience." And yet, his security forces opened fire on the demonstrators, reportedly wounding five people.
According to The New York Times:
In a phone call played on a loudspeaker on Wednesday to outraged members of the Afghan Parliament, the governor of Farah Province, Rohul Amin, said that as many as 130 civilians had been killed, according to a legislator, Mohammad Naim Farahi. Afghan lawmakers immediately called for an agreement regulating foreign military operations in the country.
"The governor said that the villagers have brought two tractor trailers full of pieces of human bodies to his office to prove the casualties that had occurred," Mr. Farahi said. "Everyone at the governor’s office was crying, watching that shocking scene."
Mr. Farahi said he had talked to someone he knew personally who had counted 113 bodies being buried, including those of many women and children. Later, more bodies were pulled from the rubble and some victims who had been taken to the hospital died, he said.
The U.S. airstrikes hit villages in two areas of Farah province on Monday night and Tuesday. The extent of the deaths only came to public light because local people brought 20-30 corpses to the provincial capital. If the estimates of 130 dead are confirmed, it would reportedly be the single largest number of deaths caused by a U.S. bombing since the overthrow of the Taliban in 2001. While Secretary of State Hillary Clinton initially "apologized" Wednesday for the civilian deaths and Obama reportedly conveyed similar sentiments to Karzai when they met in person, later in the day Clinton’s spokesperson, Robert Wood, framed her apology as being based on preliminary information and, according to AP, said they "were offered as a gesture, before all the facts of the incident are known." By day’s end, the Pentagon was seeking to blame the Taliban for "staging" the massacre to blame it on the U.S. Last night, NBC News’s Pentagon correspondent Jim Miklaszewski said military sources told him Taliban fighters used grenades to kill three families to "stage" a massacre and then blame it on the U.S.
The senior U.S. military and NATO commander in Afghanistan, Gen. David McKiernan, spoke in general terms: "We have some other information that leads us to distinctly different conclusions about the cause of the civilian casualties," he said. McKiernan left the specific details of the spin to unnamed officials.
According to The Washington Post, "A U.S. defense official, who spoke on the condition of anonymity, said that ‘the Taliban went to a concerted effort to make it look like the U.S. airstrikes caused this. The official did not offer evidence to support the claim, and could not say what had caused the deaths." Meanwhile, according to the Associated Press, a senior Defense official who did not want to be identified "said late Wednesday that Marine special operations forces believe the Afghan civilians were killed by grenades hurled by Taliban militants, who then loaded some of the bodies into a vehicle and drove them around the village, claiming the dead were victims of an American airstrike. A second U.S. official said a senior Taliban commander is believed to have ordered the grenade attack."
As the AP reported, "it would be the first time the Taliban has used grenades in this way."
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Posted by: HalEBurton on May 7, 2009 6:44 PM
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» RE: Silly villagers
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» RE: Irony alert.
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» This is a smear aganist Obama!
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» Memo, what memo?
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Posted by: DrBrian on May 7, 2009 9:01 PM
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It never occurs to them that for every putative terrorist we kill, we also slaughter at least 10 innocent people, mostly women and children. And for each ten innocent victims, we spawn 10 terrorists. Which means that we kill terrorists and get 100, a rate of return even Goldman Sachs never dreamed of.
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Posted by: pfgetty on May 8, 2009 1:27 AM
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But your work won't change a thing, not as long as Americans believe the official story of 9/11, the story that tells us that if we don't get control of every bit of Afghanistan, they will strike us again as on 9/11.
You know the official story of 9/11 is a fraud. You know 9/11 was an inside job. And yet you keep it all to yourself. How weird. You and all other journalists seem to have committed to a plan not to ever mention the evidence that 9/11 is a lie, evidence that has tumbled in for almost eight years. Not that you or any journalists have investigated or analyzed or written about it. The work has been done by others, like heroic scientists and theologists like David Ray Griffin, Kevin Ryan, Steven Jones, Richard Gage. But you won't even present the work they have done.
Why?
At least tell us why you have decided to avoid the biggest story of all time.......the reason that you and Amy and Juan have for bringing us the news everyday full of the horrors of the results of 9/11, like the wars and occupations, the Patriot Act and torture and wiretapping, but refuse to mention what brought it all to us.
You could turn the wars off right away by finally exposing 9/11. What on earth could be keeping you from doing it?
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» RE: And it all happens, Jeremy, because of you. When will you expose the lies of 911?
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» When will you expose the lies of 911?
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» Good point andrushka
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» RE: Good point andrushka
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» Well where are you Guitar Bill
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» Hold on! Just a minute. I can't find my tin foil hat!
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» Tony, concerning Dave McGowan.
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» RE: Good point andrushka
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» RE: And it all happens, Jeremy, because of you. When will you expose the lies of 911?
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» The U.S. military would not be occupying Afghanistan were it not for the big lie of 9/11
Posted by: LeftWright
» RE: And it all happens, Jeremy, because of you. When will you expose the lies of 911?
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» Interesting site, jenko, a preliminary critique...
Posted by: LeftWright
» I'm now reading the pdf version
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» Let's meet nattering 911 nincompoop, David L. Griscom.
Posted by: GuitarBill
» To anyone truly interested in learning about the events of 9/11/01, here are some places to start:
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» Let's meet nattering 911 nincompoop and Holocaust Denier, Kevin Barrett.
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» GB - Don't expect me to defend Dr. Barrett, he's a loose cannon
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» I don't expect you defend anyone, you twit.
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» William Christison - Former Director of the CIA's Office of Regional and Political Analysis
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» Melvin Goodman, PhD - Former Division Chief of the CIA's Office of Soviet Affairs and Senior Analyst
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» Raymond L. McGovern – 27-year CIA veteran. Former U.S. Army Intelligence Officer.
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» Robert David Steele (Vivas) – U.S. Marine Corps infantry and intelligence officer for twenty years.
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» Robert Baer – Former CIA Case Officer, Specialist in the Middle East, Directorate of Operations.
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» Coleen Rowley – Former Special Agent and Minneapolis Division Counsel, FBI. 24-year FBI career
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» Let's meet nattering 911 nincompoop, Eric Hufschmid, the Godfather of 911 "truth".
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» Terrell (Terry) E. Arnold, MA – Former Deputy Director, Office of Counter-Terrorism, State Dept.
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» Angelo M. Codevilla, PhD – Former U.S. State Department Foreign Service Officer
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» Let's meet nattering 911 nincompoop, Christopher Bollyn.
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» Louis Freeh – Director of the FBI, 1993 - 2001
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» Senator Mike Gravel – Former U.S. Senator from Alaska 1969 - 1980.
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» What's the problem, LeftWrong? Upset because the 911 "truth" movement is connected to anti-Semites?
Posted by: GuitarBill
» Sandra Lubarsky, PhD – Jewish Theologian
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» RE: Sandra Lubarsky, PhD – Jewish Theologian and associate of nutter David Ray Griffin.
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» Let's meet nattering 911 nincompoop and Holocaust Denier, Sofia Shafquat.
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» Senator Mark Dayton – Former U.S. Senator from Minnesota 2001 - 2006.
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» Hurry, LeftWrong, and bury my posts before I expose more "truthers" as anti-Semites!
Posted by: GuitarBill
» Loren R. Fisher, PhD – Retired Professor of Hebrew Bible, Claremont School of Theology
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» Loren R. Fisher, PhD – Retired Professor of Hebrew Bible. So what does that prove?
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» RE: Loren R. Fisher, PhD – Retired Professor of Hebrew Bible. So what does that prove?
Posted by: jenko
» "guilt by association"? BS! 911 "truth" is the procuct of right-wing extremist, Eric Hufschmid, liar
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» Senator Patrick Leahy, JD – U.S. Senator from Vermont 1974 - present. Chairman, Judiciary Committee
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» Let's meet nattering 911 nincompoop and anti-Semite, Uncle Fetzer (aka., Jim Fetzer).
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» Paul Craig Roberts, PhD – Assistant Secretary of the U.S. Treasury under Ronald Reagan
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» You mean the same Paul Craig Roberts who is beloved by disinfo peddler, Jeff "the wig" Rense?
Posted by: GuitarBill
» Catherine Austin Fitts – Assistant Secretary of Housing under George H.W. Bush
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» Hurry, LeftWrong, and bury my posts before I expose more "truthers" as anti-Semites!
Posted by: GuitarBill
» Rabbi Michael Lerner, PhD – Rabbi of Beyt Tikkun in San Francisco.
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» Rabbi Michael Lerner? Surprise, surprise.
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» J. Michael Springmann – Former career Foreign Service Officer with the State Department
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» Lt. Col. Robert Bowman, PhD, U.S. Air Force (ret) -
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» Col. George Nelson, MBA, U.S. Air Force (ret) – Former U.S. Air Force aircraft accident investigator
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» Col. Ann Wright, U.S. Army (ret) – Retired Army officer and former U.S. Diplomat.
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» Lt. Col. Shelton F. Lankford, U.S. Marine Corps (ret) – fighter pilot with over 300 combat missions
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» Lt. Col. Karen U. Kwiatkowski, PhD, U.S. Air Force (ret) -
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» Lt. Col. Guy S. Razer, MS , U.S. Air Force (ret) – Retired U.S. Air Force command fighter pilot.
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» Yes, Silverstein conspired with the FDNY Fire Commander to demolish WTC 7.
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» The only liars are Mr. Silverstein and you (others may simply be confused or mistaken)
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» Lair. You're a joke.
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» My sincere apology, genius, I forgot your link, which proves you're full of "LeftWrong".
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» The "owner" of the WTC wasn't Larry Silverstien, liar, it's the NY and NJ Port Authority.
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» Keep spinning, straw king, you're only fooling yourself
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» Come on, @$$, tell us how Silverstein conspired with the FDNY Fire Commander to demolish WTC7.
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» Nice straw castle you're spinning there, GB
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» So, now you're threatening me, tough guy?
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» Until you can put a name to Silverstein's "FNDY Fire Commander", it's worthless
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» That should read: Until you can put a name to Silverstein's "FDNY Fire Commander", it's worthless
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» Your BS is disproven by Dan Nigro himself:
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» Actually, Chief Nigro's statement proves Mr. Silverstein is lying, as I showed above
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» Commander Ralph Kolstad, U.S. Navy (ret) – Retired fighter pilot. Former Air Combat Instructor,
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» Let's meet nattering 911 nincompoop, Judy Wood, Ph.D
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» Ahhhhhhhhh...much better..now thats more like it
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» I'd love to ask how old you are; unfortunately, I know you can't count that high.
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» Banjo Fred Breaks a String
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» Really? No kidding, genius.
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» RE: And it all happens, Jeremy, because of you. When will you expose the lies of 911?
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» jenko - if you're interested in investigating the events of 9/11/01, start here:
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Posted by: ronniejw on May 8, 2009 2:45 AM
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Will the American people ever wake up and topple the Fascist government that rules the US (Democrats and Republicans both serve big Corporations; not the American people)? I doubt it.
We need to bring our troops home and reduce the military to a fraction of its current level so that the money wasted on defence spending (calling it offense spending would be more honest) can be diverted to more pressing matters like Global Warming, Poverty or Hunger.
I won’t hold my breath waiting for that to happen.
Ronnie Wright
SFC, US Army Retired
World Change Cafe
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» RE: Obama should stand trial beside Bush
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» Just turn the flag upside down and tell everyone why (n/t)
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Posted by: tony_opmoc on May 8, 2009 3:56 AM
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Almost the entire World believed him.
He is a Bloody Liar.
NEXT
Tony
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» This information cannot possibly be true!
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Posted by: inactionot on May 8, 2009 4:10 AM
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» RE: Change?
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Posted by: tony_opmoc on May 8, 2009 4:52 AM
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Obama is Different from Bush.
Webster Tarpley produced the video below "The men behind Barack Obama" before the Presidential Election.
At the time most would have dismissed it as the ravings of a conspiracist. Yet 6 months later nearly everything he said has come true - or is coming true.
The real change in power from the Bush/Cheney Cabal to Obama actually happenned before the election. The result was known well in advance.
The economic crash / austerity was a planned event by the men behind Obama.
Your political viewpoint is irrelevant. The idea that we live in a Democracy is a complete illusion. It didn't make the slightest difference who you voted for. The population is exceedingly well controlled in what it thinks. Virtually No one could give a shit about what happens in Afghanistan or Iraq - unless you are in Afghanistan or Iraq and seeing your Country and Your Family Being Bombed to Hell.
There will be no gory pictures in the MSM of children's limbs and torsos piled up on trailer trucks. People will be watching the usual dumbed down nonsense as normal (if they still have a home and TV) and cheering for their favourite sports team.
Meanwhile we are heading for WWIII
These lunatics think they can win it.
The men behind Barack Obama part 1
The men behind Barack Obama part 2
Tony
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» RE: There has been Change - Things have got Considerably Worse
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» RE: There has been Change - Things have got Considerably Worse
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Posted by: US Citizen on May 8, 2009 5:10 AM
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Posted by: ABetterFuture on May 8, 2009 6:25 AM
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Oh wait. Look over there! There's change.
What?
Lots of you fools bought into the new whore's mantra.
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Posted by: weathered on May 8, 2009 6:34 AM
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Posted by: billybookworm on May 8, 2009 7:21 AM
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Posted by: picket on May 8, 2009 8:16 AM
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Some Wisdom from the Ages: Failure to choose leaders who uphold justice can lead to much trouble. We must have wise judges and faithful administrators who make just decisions with no distortions, show no partiality or accept bribes[lobbyists].
Afghanistan is an evil war as many others in our history. It is cowardly to fight a war from miles above the people you are killing.
I am sorry if Michelle Obama is not taking some time to listen to the VOICES that cry out for justice. She has the power of change, as had other wives of Presidents. So far, I am greatly dissappointed.
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Posted by: Birdland on May 8, 2009 9:04 AM
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Posted by: sunnywater on May 8, 2009 9:18 AM
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The last report was that 150 civilians were killed in this recent US bombings of two villages in Bala Baluk district in Farah province.
There are still bodies under the rubble that are not included in this 150 count.
One of the dead was a community volunteer for the Afghan Red Crescent Society, who was killed along with 13 members of his family.
The US military, initially said five to seven civilians and 30-35 Taliban were killed.
Our military is not used to defend our borders and not to defend the Constitution as every soldier, sailor, and airman pledges.
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» RE: deeply regretted the loss of civilian life
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» RE: deeply regretted the loss of civilian life
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» jaglover - I suggest you actually learn something about the events of 9/11
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» wise up
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Posted by: jaglover on May 8, 2009 9:51 AM
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» RE: War is Hell
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» Nice try - after all collateral damage is just "body parts."
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» Just because you were a soldier, doesn't mean you were...
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» LeftWright, eeezzz, Zeugitai and leafsong1:
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» We ARE all brothers and sisters, that's why we have to keep talking
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Posted by: royjwind on May 8, 2009 11:20 AM
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Posted by: ZPaul on May 8, 2009 11:53 AM
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Yes, "War Is Hell". How would you like to go to War?
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Posted by: eeezzz on May 8, 2009 11:54 AM
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Posted by: brian boru on May 8, 2009 1:28 PM
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It is ironic that Bill Clinton and Barak Obama are known in America as great movers and shakers in the world of politics, but elsewhere only add to the contempt held for America.
Nobody can blame Bush & Cheney on this one. They are long gone. I knew Obama did not want to, nor could he control the Pentagon's appetite for eternal war.
Well at least the new puppie will have a full belly and a warm bed tonight.
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Posted by: dover23 on May 8, 2009 2:33 PM
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» RE: In defense of Obama...
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Posted by: leafsong1 on May 8, 2009 2:45 PM
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Most classified information is classified to obstruct justice, protect government officials from embarrassment, and deprive the people of information essential to their role as voters. We would be better served if we outlawed government secrets altogether.
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Posted by: Garvagh on May 8, 2009 3:26 PM
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Posted by: JSquercia on May 8, 2009 3:31 PM
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The Pentagon's reports are unbelievible yes the Taliban did all that damage with grenades in spite of them never using grenades before .
Let's see the International Red Cross says one thing and the Pentagon says another . Who should I believe ? It's a no brainer one has vested interest and the other doesn't . You have to believe the Red Cross
Acts like this are the reason we will never win the Hearts and Minds of Afghanis (?)
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» RE: Just created Another Bunch of Taliban
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Posted by: willymack on May 9, 2009 10:16 AM
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Posted by: thinktank Evolution on May 9, 2009 7:31 PM
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so as to isolate one for complete eradication and fulfilling a project of lifeless earth.
Fools! wake up! it enslaves just as Pyramids do!
it divides all seekers of truth...The universe needs humans to Abolish War
Life is important.
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Posted by: thinktank Evolution on May 9, 2009 7:36 PM
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This is a culture Jam much like Hercules and Antaeus...
It is time we become like Atlas and stop being Anti War
and
ABOLISH War.
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» How does exposing the roots of the war game perpetuate war?
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Posted by: HalEBurton on May 7, 2009 6:44 PM
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» RE: Silly villagers
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» RE: Irony alert.
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» This is a smear aganist Obama!
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» Memo, what memo?
Posted by: truthlover
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Posted by: DrBrian on May 7, 2009 9:01 PM
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It never occurs to them that for every putative terrorist we kill, we also slaughter at least 10 innocent people, mostly women and children. And for each ten innocent victims, we spawn 10 terrorists. Which means that we kill terrorists and get 100, a rate of return even Goldman Sachs never dreamed of.
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» oops, typo
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» RE: Math for Neocons
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Posted by: pfgetty on May 8, 2009 1:27 AM
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But your work won't change a thing, not as long as Americans believe the official story of 9/11, the story that tells us that if we don't get control of every bit of Afghanistan, they will strike us again as on 9/11.
You know the official story of 9/11 is a fraud. You know 9/11 was an inside job. And yet you keep it all to yourself. How weird. You and all other journalists seem to have committed to a plan not to ever mention the evidence that 9/11 is a lie, evidence that has tumbled in for almost eight years. Not that you or any journalists have investigated or analyzed or written about it. The work has been done by others, like heroic scientists and theologists like David Ray Griffin, Kevin Ryan, Steven Jones, Richard Gage. But you won't even present the work they have done.
Why?
At least tell us why you have decided to avoid the biggest story of all time.......the reason that you and Amy and Juan have for bringing us the news everyday full of the horrors of the results of 9/11, like the wars and occupations, the Patriot Act and torture and wiretapping, but refuse to mention what brought it all to us.
You could turn the wars off right away by finally exposing 9/11. What on earth could be keeping you from doing it?
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» RE: And it all happens, Jeremy, because of you. When will you expose the lies of 911?
Posted by: andrushka
» When will you expose the lies of 911?
Posted by: rt968
» Good point andrushka
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» RE: Good point andrushka
Posted by: tony_opmoc
» Well where are you Guitar Bill
Posted by: Zimbly
» Hold on! Just a minute. I can't find my tin foil hat!
Posted by: GuitarBill
» Tony, concerning Dave McGowan.
Posted by: GuitarBill
» RE: Good point andrushka
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» RE: And it all happens, Jeremy, because of you. When will you expose the lies of 911?
Posted by: rinthy
» The U.S. military would not be occupying Afghanistan were it not for the big lie of 9/11
Posted by: LeftWright
» RE: And it all happens, Jeremy, because of you. When will you expose the lies of 911?
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» Interesting site, jenko, a preliminary critique...
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» I'm now reading the pdf version
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» Let's meet nattering 911 nincompoop, David L. Griscom.
Posted by: GuitarBill
» To anyone truly interested in learning about the events of 9/11/01, here are some places to start:
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» Let's meet nattering 911 nincompoop and Holocaust Denier, Kevin Barrett.
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» GB - Don't expect me to defend Dr. Barrett, he's a loose cannon
Posted by: LeftWright
» I don't expect you defend anyone, you twit.
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» William Christison - Former Director of the CIA's Office of Regional and Political Analysis
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» Melvin Goodman, PhD - Former Division Chief of the CIA's Office of Soviet Affairs and Senior Analyst
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» Raymond L. McGovern – 27-year CIA veteran. Former U.S. Army Intelligence Officer.
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» Robert David Steele (Vivas) – U.S. Marine Corps infantry and intelligence officer for twenty years.
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» Robert Baer – Former CIA Case Officer, Specialist in the Middle East, Directorate of Operations.
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» Coleen Rowley – Former Special Agent and Minneapolis Division Counsel, FBI. 24-year FBI career
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» Let's meet nattering 911 nincompoop, Eric Hufschmid, the Godfather of 911 "truth".
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» Terrell (Terry) E. Arnold, MA – Former Deputy Director, Office of Counter-Terrorism, State Dept.
Posted by: LeftWright
» Angelo M. Codevilla, PhD – Former U.S. State Department Foreign Service Officer
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» Let's meet nattering 911 nincompoop, Christopher Bollyn.
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» Louis Freeh – Director of the FBI, 1993 - 2001
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» Senator Mike Gravel – Former U.S. Senator from Alaska 1969 - 1980.
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» What's the problem, LeftWrong? Upset because the 911 "truth" movement is connected to anti-Semites?
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» Sandra Lubarsky, PhD – Jewish Theologian
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» RE: Sandra Lubarsky, PhD – Jewish Theologian and associate of nutter David Ray Griffin.
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» Let's meet nattering 911 nincompoop and Holocaust Denier, Sofia Shafquat.
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» Senator Mark Dayton – Former U.S. Senator from Minnesota 2001 - 2006.
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» Hurry, LeftWrong, and bury my posts before I expose more "truthers" as anti-Semites!
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» Loren R. Fisher, PhD – Retired Professor of Hebrew Bible, Claremont School of Theology
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» Loren R. Fisher, PhD – Retired Professor of Hebrew Bible. So what does that prove?
Posted by: GuitarBill
» RE: Loren R. Fisher, PhD – Retired Professor of Hebrew Bible. So what does that prove?
Posted by: jenko
» "guilt by association"? BS! 911 "truth" is the procuct of right-wing extremist, Eric Hufschmid, liar
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» Senator Patrick Leahy, JD – U.S. Senator from Vermont 1974 - present. Chairman, Judiciary Committee
Posted by: LeftWright
» Let's meet nattering 911 nincompoop and anti-Semite, Uncle Fetzer (aka., Jim Fetzer).
Posted by: GuitarBill
» Paul Craig Roberts, PhD – Assistant Secretary of the U.S. Treasury under Ronald Reagan
Posted by: LeftWright
» You mean the same Paul Craig Roberts who is beloved by disinfo peddler, Jeff "the wig" Rense?
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» Catherine Austin Fitts – Assistant Secretary of Housing under George H.W. Bush
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» Hurry, LeftWrong, and bury my posts before I expose more "truthers" as anti-Semites!
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» Rabbi Michael Lerner, PhD – Rabbi of Beyt Tikkun in San Francisco.
Posted by: LeftWright
» Rabbi Michael Lerner? Surprise, surprise.
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» J. Michael Springmann – Former career Foreign Service Officer with the State Department
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» Lt. Col. Robert Bowman, PhD, U.S. Air Force (ret) -
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» Col. George Nelson, MBA, U.S. Air Force (ret) – Former U.S. Air Force aircraft accident investigator
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» Col. Ann Wright, U.S. Army (ret) – Retired Army officer and former U.S. Diplomat.
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» Lt. Col. Shelton F. Lankford, U.S. Marine Corps (ret) – fighter pilot with over 300 combat missions
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» Lt. Col. Karen U. Kwiatkowski, PhD, U.S. Air Force (ret) -
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» Lt. Col. Guy S. Razer, MS , U.S. Air Force (ret) – Retired U.S. Air Force command fighter pilot.
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» Yes, Silverstein conspired with the FDNY Fire Commander to demolish WTC 7.
Posted by: GuitarBill
» The only liars are Mr. Silverstein and you (others may simply be confused or mistaken)
Posted by: LeftWright
» Lair. You're a joke.
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» My sincere apology, genius, I forgot your link, which proves you're full of "LeftWrong".
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» The "owner" of the WTC wasn't Larry Silverstien, liar, it's the NY and NJ Port Authority.
Posted by: GuitarBill
» Keep spinning, straw king, you're only fooling yourself
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» Come on, @$$, tell us how Silverstein conspired with the FDNY Fire Commander to demolish WTC7.
Posted by: GuitarBill
» Nice straw castle you're spinning there, GB
Posted by: LeftWright
» So, now you're threatening me, tough guy?
Posted by: GuitarBill
» Until you can put a name to Silverstein's "FNDY Fire Commander", it's worthless
Posted by: LeftWright
» That should read: Until you can put a name to Silverstein's "FDNY Fire Commander", it's worthless
Posted by: LeftWright
» Your BS is disproven by Dan Nigro himself:
Posted by: GuitarBill
» Actually, Chief Nigro's statement proves Mr. Silverstein is lying, as I showed above
Posted by: LeftWright
» Commander Ralph Kolstad, U.S. Navy (ret) – Retired fighter pilot. Former Air Combat Instructor,
Posted by: LeftWright
» Let's meet nattering 911 nincompoop, Judy Wood, Ph.D
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» Ahhhhhhhhh...much better..now thats more like it
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» I'd love to ask how old you are; unfortunately, I know you can't count that high.
Posted by: GuitarBill
» Banjo Fred Breaks a String
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» Really? No kidding, genius.
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» RE: And it all happens, Jeremy, because of you. When will you expose the lies of 911?
Posted by: jenko
» jenko - if you're interested in investigating the events of 9/11/01, start here:
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Posted by: ronniejw on May 8, 2009 2:45 AM
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Will the American people ever wake up and topple the Fascist government that rules the US (Democrats and Republicans both serve big Corporations; not the American people)? I doubt it.
We need to bring our troops home and reduce the military to a fraction of its current level so that the money wasted on defence spending (calling it offense spending would be more honest) can be diverted to more pressing matters like Global Warming, Poverty or Hunger.
I won’t hold my breath waiting for that to happen.
Ronnie Wright
SFC, US Army Retired
World Change Cafe
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» RE: Obama should stand trial beside Bush
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» Just turn the flag upside down and tell everyone why (n/t)
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Posted by: tony_opmoc on May 8, 2009 3:56 AM
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Almost the entire World believed him.
He is a Bloody Liar.
NEXT
Tony
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» This information cannot possibly be true!
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Posted by: inactionot on May 8, 2009 4:10 AM
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» RE: Change?
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Posted by: tony_opmoc on May 8, 2009 4:52 AM
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Obama is Different from Bush.
Webster Tarpley produced the video below "The men behind Barack Obama" before the Presidential Election.
At the time most would have dismissed it as the ravings of a conspiracist. Yet 6 months later nearly everything he said has come true - or is coming true.
The real change in power from the Bush/Cheney Cabal to Obama actually happenned before the election. The result was known well in advance.
The economic crash / austerity was a planned event by the men behind Obama.
Your political viewpoint is irrelevant. The idea that we live in a Democracy is a complete illusion. It didn't make the slightest difference who you voted for. The population is exceedingly well controlled in what it thinks. Virtually No one could give a shit about what happens in Afghanistan or Iraq - unless you are in Afghanistan or Iraq and seeing your Country and Your Family Being Bombed to Hell.
There will be no gory pictures in the MSM of children's limbs and torsos piled up on trailer trucks. People will be watching the usual dumbed down nonsense as normal (if they still have a home and TV) and cheering for their favourite sports team.
Meanwhile we are heading for WWIII
These lunatics think they can win it.
The men behind Barack Obama part 1
The men behind Barack Obama part 2
Tony
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» RE: There has been Change - Things have got Considerably Worse
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» RE: There has been Change - Things have got Considerably Worse
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Posted by: US Citizen on May 8, 2009 5:10 AM
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Posted by: ABetterFuture on May 8, 2009 6:25 AM
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Oh wait. Look over there! There's change.
What?
Lots of you fools bought into the new whore's mantra.
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Posted by: weathered on May 8, 2009 6:34 AM
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Posted by: billybookworm on May 8, 2009 7:21 AM
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Posted by: picket on May 8, 2009 8:16 AM
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Some Wisdom from the Ages: Failure to choose leaders who uphold justice can lead to much trouble. We must have wise judges and faithful administrators who make just decisions with no distortions, show no partiality or accept bribes[lobbyists].
Afghanistan is an evil war as many others in our history. It is cowardly to fight a war from miles above the people you are killing.
I am sorry if Michelle Obama is not taking some time to listen to the VOICES that cry out for justice. She has the power of change, as had other wives of Presidents. So far, I am greatly dissappointed.
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Posted by: Birdland on May 8, 2009 9:04 AM
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Posted by: sunnywater on May 8, 2009 9:18 AM
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The last report was that 150 civilians were killed in this recent US bombings of two villages in Bala Baluk district in Farah province.
There are still bodies under the rubble that are not included in this 150 count.
One of the dead was a community volunteer for the Afghan Red Crescent Society, who was killed along with 13 members of his family.
The US military, initially said five to seven civilians and 30-35 Taliban were killed.
Our military is not used to defend our borders and not to defend the Constitution as every soldier, sailor, and airman pledges.
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» RE: deeply regretted the loss of civilian life
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» RE: deeply regretted the loss of civilian life
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» jaglover - I suggest you actually learn something about the events of 9/11
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» wise up
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Posted by: jaglover on May 8, 2009 9:51 AM
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» RE: War is Hell
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» Nice try - after all collateral damage is just "body parts."
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» Just because you were a soldier, doesn't mean you were...
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» LeftWright, eeezzz, Zeugitai and leafsong1:
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» We ARE all brothers and sisters, that's why we have to keep talking
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Posted by: royjwind on May 8, 2009 11:20 AM
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Posted by: ZPaul on May 8, 2009 11:53 AM
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Yes, "War Is Hell". How would you like to go to War?
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Posted by: eeezzz on May 8, 2009 11:54 AM
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Posted by: brian boru on May 8, 2009 1:28 PM
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It is ironic that Bill Clinton and Barak Obama are known in America as great movers and shakers in the world of politics, but elsewhere only add to the contempt held for America.
Nobody can blame Bush & Cheney on this one. They are long gone. I knew Obama did not want to, nor could he control the Pentagon's appetite for eternal war.
Well at least the new puppie will have a full belly and a warm bed tonight.
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Posted by: dover23 on May 8, 2009 2:33 PM
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» RE: In defense of Obama...
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Posted by: leafsong1 on May 8, 2009 2:45 PM
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Most classified information is classified to obstruct justice, protect government officials from embarrassment, and deprive the people of information essential to their role as voters. We would be better served if we outlawed government secrets altogether.
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Posted by: Garvagh on May 8, 2009 3:26 PM
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Posted by: JSquercia on May 8, 2009 3:31 PM
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The Pentagon's reports are unbelievible yes the Taliban did all that damage with grenades in spite of them never using grenades before .
Let's see the International Red Cross says one thing and the Pentagon says another . Who should I believe ? It's a no brainer one has vested interest and the other doesn't . You have to believe the Red Cross
Acts like this are the reason we will never win the Hearts and Minds of Afghanis (?)
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» RE: Just created Another Bunch of Taliban
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Posted by: willymack on May 9, 2009 10:16 AM
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Posted by: thinktank Evolution on May 9, 2009 7:31 PM
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so as to isolate one for complete eradication and fulfilling a project of lifeless earth.
Fools! wake up! it enslaves just as Pyramids do!
it divides all seekers of truth...The universe needs humans to Abolish War
Life is important.
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Posted by: thinktank Evolution on May 9, 2009 7:36 PM
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This is a culture Jam much like Hercules and Antaeus...
It is time we become like Atlas and stop being Anti War
and
ABOLISH War.
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» How does exposing the roots of the war game perpetuate war?
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Posted by: sicntired on May 10, 2009 5:06 AM
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Posted by: badkitty on May 10, 2009 2:27 PM
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Posted by: Dboy on May 10, 2009 11:20 PM
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