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They Sent Me to Distant Lands to Fight Against Muslims ... Then I Became One

By Penny Coleman, AlterNet. Posted April 9, 2009.


Along the way, I ate Burger King in Peshawar, developed a debilitating drug habit and caught a 3-year prison sentence.
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Mike's attraction to Islam dates to 2001, when his Afghan interpreter gave him a Quran. Mike had a deep respect for the spirit of those he fought and wanted to better understand what it was about their belief system that roused such a fierce dedication to their cause.   

Last month, after a year of one-on-one study with Imam Sabur, Mike made his shihada at the Kemble Street Mosque in Utica, N.Y. He is now officially an adherent of Islam.   

As a practicing Muslim, his life has become a virtual prayer. Five times a day, he ritualistically washes his body and kneels to pray facing the Kaaba in Mecca. (The first time, he used a compass and marked the direction with tape on his floor.)   

"Islam," the imam explained to me, "is a way of life more than a religion. It teaches you how to do everything, and everything becomes an act of worship."

Mike agrees, allowing with some amusement that the structure is both reassuring and familiar for a soldier, "but the military isn't nearly as strict as Islam."  

Every day, he downloads the prayer schedule off the mosque Web site. Prayers are timed according to the hours of sunrise and sunset, and on some winter mornings, that means getting up at 4:30.

But Mike rarely sleeps more than a few hours anyway. He has found that the exhaustion produced by long hours of concentrated work seems to keep his night terrors under control, so he "practices avoidance," letting his schoolwork regularly keep him up well past midnight.

Mike has a 4.0 grade-point average at State University of New York, and plans to get a Ph.D. in trauma research and counseling when he graduates.

He is also a convicted felon who suffers from a terrible post-traumatic stress injury.  

If Uncle Sam were to use his finger like a Ouija board pointer searching out a U.S. Army poster boy, it just might stop on Mike.

He's tall, fair-haired, handsome, stands with a posture that suggests military training, but without rigidity, and he speaks with a polite confidence, intelligence and insight that made him a natural leader when he was in the service and makes him a campus and community leader now.   

Mike was with the first wave of Americans into Afghanistan in 2001, and then, 15 months later, with the first wave into Iraq. Like so many combat veterans, he quite enjoys talking about the funny-crazy memories he brought home.

Like when someone discovered that there was a Burger King in Peshawar, Pakistan, over the border with Afghanistan.   

If there wasn't a lot of traffic in the Khyber Pass, he and his unit could make the trip from Jalalabad in half an hour. Like schoolboys playing chicken, they'd go – 12 guys in three vehicles bristling with guns.

"We would just run in and grab our burgers, scarf them down, and get back out of Pakistan. If we would have run into somebody, we would have been massacred," he admits sheepishly. "But it was so good to have a Whopper."  

But he won't go near the bad stuff that happened. He has learned that indulging someone else's curiosity predictably brings on terrible dreams.

"My body," he says with painful understatement, "blows everything out of proportion."  

The imam has helped.

"There is just something about Imam Sabur," Mike says. "He has taught me to trust him."   

It probably helps that the imam is a veteran and recently retired after a 20-year career at New York State's Department of Corrections.

"He knows that nothing he might say is going to shock me," Sabur told me. "I just listen and remind him that he may have done wrong in the past, and he surely will make mistakes in the future, but God is perfect, the rest of us aren't."  

Mike enlisted in the Army in 1998. His first semester in college hadn't gone all that well, and he had a bunch of uncles who had told him the military would grow him up and give him a little discipline.


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Penny Coleman is the widow of a Vietnam veteran who took his own life after coming home. Her latest book, Flashback: Posttraumatic Stress Disorder, Suicide and the Lessons of War, was released on Memorial Day, 2006. Her Web site is Flashback.

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Just because your opponent deeply believes in cause doesn't make it good per se
Posted by: Woodpecker on Apr 9, 2009 12:17 AM   
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Apropos of the Taliban, just because your opponent deeply believes in a given cause doesn't make it good as such! Remember Japanese "Kamikaze" bomber of WWII, the hijackers of 9/11 snd Taliban supporters throwing acid in the faces of school girls and burning down their schools!

Terry

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» weathered was applauding Posted by: thumber77
He Wasn't Sent to Fight Muslims
Posted by: DrBrian on Apr 9, 2009 12:59 AM   
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The Taliban are the Southern Baptists of Islam. Here in Bangladesh the proportion of hardcore fundamentalists who believe that it's appropriate and divinely sanctioned to use violence to advance a political agenda is far lower than in the US. Compare the 2/300 Islamist parliamentarians in Bangladesh with the number of right wing Christians in the US Congress, probably nearly a third.

Moderates of all religions live their lives in similar ways, and extremists of all religions share a lot of similarities. The problem isn't Huntington's "clash of civilizations," but a clash between people of reason and goodwill and people of superstition and hatred.

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» RE: He Wasn't Sent to Fight Muslims Posted by: redstarwraith
» RE: He Wasn't Sent to Fight Muslims Posted by: redstarwraith
» RE: He Wasn't Sent to Fight Muslims Posted by: buschthebearrefreshing
Fighting spirit
Posted by: Perry Logan on Apr 9, 2009 2:52 AM   
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"We will never win either, because Muslims have more fighting spirit than any Americans."

This seems to be a big problem with imperial America.

We love the idea of starting a war--especially against some tiny country--but since Americans are total wimps, it flummoxes us when we realize that the other guys fight back.

Not only do they fight back, but they fight back harder and braver than us--and they're not about to quit.

And here we were just screwing around!

So the war goes on for years, draining the treasury, destroying lives...while the people we picked the fight with just keep kicking our asses over and over and over.

It's the same thing that drives the Israelis nuts about the Palestinians. No matter how many babies the Israelis kill, the Palestnians just keep fighting back. The more brutal Israel gets, the more Palestine beats the sh*t out of them.

Despite appearances, the Palestinians have essentially destroyed Israel--in the same way Korea, Viet Nam, Iraq, anmd Afghanistan beat the crap out of us. It's a simple case of human spirit over weaponry.

Of course, quasi-fascists like the U.S. and Israel are incapable of learning, and they need these wars to survive, so they keep on starting them. It's some kinda karmic punishment.


The newly-renamed planet Xe.

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» RE: Fighting spirit Posted by: Femmy68
» RE: Fighting spirit Posted by: solrev
And now, Penny, it is time for you to look at 9/11, the worst lies about Muslims ever.
Posted by: pfgetty on Apr 9, 2009 2:59 AM   
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The worst thing that has ever happened to Muslims is 9/11. It has brought hatred against them from Americans, and other Christian nations.
It is reasonable, really, to hate Muslims, having heard the propaganda from 9/11.........that "they" want to destroy us, bring down our nation and Christian control of the world, take over us, etc etc.
All that is part of what came from the official 9/11 story, then the WMD story, "links", and the rest.
A classic ethnic hatred story.........racism........slaughter them before they slaughter us.
Now, as a Muslim, you should be a bit concerned when you hear bits and pieces that maybe the 9/11 story is not true. As a journalist, Penny, you should be a bit curious as to what all this talk is about.
And if it has merit, maybe the slander against Muslims is not deserved.

But, no, Penny, you will not go there. You are a journalist in the West, and so automatically you are part of a conspiracy to keep the truth from Americans. You will ignore the 9/11 truth story, like all US journalists, and keep the despicable lies about Muslims alive. You should not even be considered a journalist, or a Muslim.

9/11 truth has piled up huge amounts of evidence against the official story, especially, lately, the works of Richard Gage and Kevin Ryan and Steven Jones in proving that the collapse of the WTC, all three buildings, was due to controlled demolition. No, you aren't interested. But this is all fact, and it proves complicity by our government and a massive coverup, in which you take part by not exposing this truth. They have participated in the writing of a scientific paper and they are well respected scientists with no personal agenda, all of them having lost their livelihoods in pursuit of truth. Add to that David Ray Griffin. Read about them. Study their work. Read DRG's books. Then, just maybe then, you, Penny, can be considered a journalist, and maybe then you might have done something for your new religion.
And the world.
Because the world doesn't need hatred based on lies.
Do the work, Penny, and then come back to us. And maybe you can convince Alternet to have its first real story about 9/11 in seven and a half years of self censorshipt.
Do it, Penny. Our future depends on it.

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» here is the real bag of crap Posted by: pfgetty
Allah Akbar. God is the Greatest.
Posted by: UnionFarmer on Apr 9, 2009 4:06 AM   
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I'm glad for mike and Penny. One mike like myself accepted Islam after 9/11 and learning true Islam. And penny, may Allah keep you strong, living with the situation you have.

It takes courage for Americans to delve into Islam today, especially with all the media slander on the Deen "way of life". I commend anyone who asks a question. Just one question. Islam is so necessary for humans but most never realize it. That submission to the Creator affects our overall well being. This country is not turning into a Godless world, yet a haven for new Muslims. Islam is the faith that the most people accept. Allah controls Islam, not the imams, the elders, Saudi or any other; it is our lord that sustains his faith and believers.

It's time for non Muslims who are interested get involved and revive the spirit inside. Through brother/ sisterhood. Not misconceptions and dogmas. They only damage the soul.

I appreciate this news channel, I don't agree with everything but it's a great avenue for info. We must All remember nothing sustains itself everything has a sustainer, and everything in existance obeys to laws. Islam - submission to God - is that law. Allah is the sustainer.

Peace.

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» No matter the name, god is a lie. Posted by: Honky the Nihilist...
Rethinking Felonies
Posted by: Urstrly on Apr 9, 2009 4:11 AM   
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It seems grossly unjust to me that Mike and other substance abusers go to prison and get labeled as felons for the rest of their lives. We imprison more people than any Western nation, and a lot of prisoners are people just like him whose "felony" is the possession of drugs.

Yet, the first substance abuse program did nothing for him. So maybe we should put more energy into finding out how to create better programs and help people fill their lives with something substantive.

I can see the appeal to Mike of Islam, especially when embodied in people like his iman. Our excessive materialism has not filled our spiritual hunger, and maybe that was Mike's problem even before he signed up for the military.

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milkbone
Posted by: milkbone2 on Apr 9, 2009 4:43 AM   
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Yes post traumatic stress disorder is real that we all understand. Drug problems and the rest yes. But found Allah what a load of delusional crap. What is your point he went to war and came back delusional and now he is all good because he found a non-existent god to pray to. Give it a rest! Don’t get me wrong I am glad and am always glad when someone gets their life together.
But Allah, Jesus and or the flying spaghetti monster who not news just more lunacy!

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» RE: milkbone Posted by: hilaryuk
» BLINDER BELIEFS Posted by: americansheep
Who cares what religion one is?
Posted by: CarlaWaters on Apr 9, 2009 4:59 AM   
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In the end, we're all human and have no business misusing religion to justify abuse and prejudice.

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Dances With Wolves Syndrome
Posted by: Jasonix on Apr 9, 2009 5:57 AM   
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Americans who grow up aimless and try to fill the void in themselves by adopting a rigid, foreign religion are the biggest fools on the planet.

The belief systems that they convert to - whether it's traditionalist Roman Catholicism, Eastern Orthodoxy, Islam, or Tibetan Buddhism - exist only in their own minds as idealized abstractions. The sordid real-world histories of these various systems - the Inquisitions, the witch burnings, the Fascist dictators supported by the Church, the bodily dismemberment for minor crimes, the vicious treatment of women - are minimized and explained away, while the defects of modern society are magnified 1000 times beyond their realistic scope.

It's too hard for some people to have an internal moral code, and a sense of personal identity. They need some label to stick on themselves. It's really sad.

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» Twice the fool Posted by: willymack
» RE: Dances With Wolves Syndrome Posted by: CommonHumanity
Another mind gone . . .
Posted by: BobKincaid on Apr 9, 2009 6:03 AM   
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. . . not to drugs, but to religion.

It comes as no surprise, but is still saddening, to see people with human frailties surrender their free will and reasoning minds to organized religion.

Submission to any invisible, unprovable cloud creature is so sad. This young man had horrible things done to him and then responded by rebounding to unreason. I don't mean Islam, I mean religion. I say the same thing about the guy who hides from his horror by being a Southern Baptist.

Pitiful. Humanity lost another one.

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Hasty judgements
Posted by: brother51 on Apr 9, 2009 6:17 AM   
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Anyone who has not been to war should think twice before judging this brave soldier and the path he chose to take to find sobriety, meaning, and purpose after coming home. Thank you again Penny for telling the stories that we don't see on the evening news and giving voice to the fine young men we send overseas to kill people who are different from us.

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» RE: Hasty judgements Posted by: buschthebearrefreshing
War is just another BUSINESS, people!
Posted by: jleman on Apr 9, 2009 6:48 AM   
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All of the stories of what happens to soldiers who face combat, are stories of what happens to people who are sent to do the dirty work of those who are making their fortunes - win or lose, off of the "war". They don't wish to "pay" for their profits(i.e., pay benefits to soldiers), they just want their money! They are some of the same people who are right now plundering "our" treasury!
They are some of the same people who have caused this whole debacle.
Wake people! WE SHOULD BE OUT IN THE STREETS WITH PITCHFORKS! The correct answer to "9/11" is "4/11"! Take back our country!

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» War is a Racket! Posted by: 2dogarage
People have a right to pray as they please and for plenty of good reasons.
Posted by: JenniferBedingfield on Apr 9, 2009 6:55 AM   
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The biggest reason in the case of the Muslims I believe is that deep down, they're completely fed up with the way the West just can't get over bullying the Middle East and the fact that the West will even support dictatorships that oppress their own people. Try asking a typical NASCAR Dad his take on King Abdullah and the CIA and he'll praise them as "helping to win the war on terror against those Islamists". Ask him the same question about a working class Muslim and he'll immediately call him a potential "terrorist". It's always blaming the poor and defenseless on everything. Just like we Christians have our right to believe in God and Jesus, the Muslims have their right to believe in Allah as their last hope.

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Imagine what his victims suffer, still left in the aftermath of his savagery
Posted by: 876 on Apr 9, 2009 7:13 AM   
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"They didn't like us as much after we blew things up," he told me with a wry smile. "We had to do a lot more building to make the Army look good."

Civil affairs, however, was not what Mike had re-upped for. He wanted retribution, and he "wanted to do the fun stuff -- kick in doors and fight war."



He seeks “retribution” on a nation of long suffering innocents, oblivious to their history and the injustices already prepetrated against them, as if all of humanity owes America something no matter their own wounds. This, while destroying people’s heritage and homeland, yet he is an American “hero”, a poor victim to be praised and put on a pedestal as he smiles “wryly” about destroying the relics and treasures of beloved ancestors never mind terror and slaughter. The message is clear, as long as you don’t harm Americans, what you do to countless innocent others and the heritage and ancient history of millions of people is completely irrelevant. In America anyone who gives imperial tyranny, murder, genocide and terror a try can earn the “hero” title. Whatever these guys do to their victims is completely besides the point to the fat and happy American masses. What do Americans care what Afghans or Iraqis have suffered for their precious freedoms and prosperity, America wants retribution and their not going to risk their oil supply poking a stick at their Saudi enemies thus suffering Afghans and innocent Iraqis must pay! You sympathize with him yet barely give a second thought to his victims. To you, their suffering and their anguish is just a misfortune to sigh about and move on from.

Personally I worry more for the children, the old people, the women and the men of those living under the falling bombs and missiles of volunteers like Mike and the perpetual, never ending tyranny of America. I find it difficult to sympathize with his issues. Even now he seems too lack a real grasp of what he has inflicted on others, that he can discuss with humor what he has destroyed for them while he talks of his own “terrors” and trauma with grief and self pity.

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» RE: Scary Posted by: ah2323
» RE: Scary Posted by: Erin
» RE: Scary Posted by: Borgar
the occupied always fight harder than the occupiers.
Posted by: Harris20 on Apr 9, 2009 7:19 AM   
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"Mike is convinced that, "we will never win either, because Muslims have more fighting spirit than any Americans." "

the author ends and incorporates the flawed conclusion of a veteran who believes it is the muslim religion that makes people fight with more spirit, fight harder. with this logic americans would have fought even harder if they had been muslims instead of christians when they fought against the british to win their independence.

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GROWING UP WHOPPERS R US
Posted by: americansheep on Apr 9, 2009 7:39 AM   
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Our screwed up culture produces so many messed up kids. How can they think straight and act sensibly when they are "over-protected" from the real world, lied to about the history of their nation. They take on alcohol and drug habits and then have relatives who foist the lie that joining the military is the answer for "growing 'em up" and bringing stability. More fairytale bull. Mike slights the idea of "social work" to help the people. He prefers to have "fun" and kick down doors. This is not a person that belongs in the military. The US is unleashing thousands of Mikes around the world to "beat down doors", and with lack of supervision or a blind eye, allowed to play chicken while illegally driving into a sovereign Paskistan for a whopper. Next we'll be sending over a battalion of Jerry Springer recruits to show the world what kind of people we are and expect them to become: Whopper liberated liars. Whopper liberated idiots. Whopper liberated murderers.

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What a moron
Posted by: rickiey on Apr 9, 2009 7:41 AM   
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He went through, and he never figured out that it wasn't a war against Muslims, it was a war about oil.

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» RE: What a moron Posted by: willymack
» Theft & death for Oil & Israel Posted by: weathered
religions practice tolerance
Posted by: wileyburp7 on Apr 9, 2009 8:35 AM   
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With all respect, I think some miss the theme of the article. This article is about transformation, and finding understanding in a culture different from one's own. It's about going to a war and learning that the so called "enemy" is in fact no enemy at all. So, it couldn't possibly support 9/11 anti-muslim propaganda.

This is a touching story about a child who lost his way in the cloud of war, and came back a man looking for redemption and finding his own spiritual path. That Mike is an American should play no consideration in which religion he chooses, as long as it is a religion that practices goodness. Religion is a deeply personal matter. Christianity speaks to some, Islam to some, Buddhism to some, (even Athiesm is treated like a fanatic religion by some judging by some posts), countless other religions to countless other people. Islam speaks to Mike. But all religions, in their true forms, practice tolerance. Mike, I love you wholly; I am happy you are back, and I am happy for you that you are finding your path.

Perhaps some of you do not understand the message Mike was trying to convey when he said some of the things that he did. When you are in the service, they train you to think these certain ways. . .for instance, the whole idea of kicking doors in being the productive and 'fun' aspect of the job. But, if he did not share these things with you, there would be no basis for the transformation, and thus, no story. If Mike still thought that way, if he didn't learn that there was something (for lack of better terms) wrong with that cycle of thinking, do you think he would be a practicing Muslim today? No, instead of directing all of this negativity toward this young man for mistakes made, we should be supporting him for lessons learned and trying to make himself a more compassionate and understanding and peaceful individual. Not every veteran is pro-war. Some are adimantly against it. It's tragic, but sometimes it takes a jarring experience to open our eyes to what is really taking place around us.


Please don't use an article that is supposed to be about finding peace and commonalities into more hate mongering and squabbling amongst yourselves

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Islam
Posted by: vasumurti on Apr 9, 2009 8:37 AM   
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Islam is a relatively young religion. Think of what Christianity was like 600 years ago: the Crusades, the Inquisition, etc. Brother Wayne Teasdale, a Benedictine monk who passed away a few years ago, once said that as religions mature, they develop compassion for all creatures.

Mohammed taught that Jews and Christians have been worshipping Allah under a different name. The Koran recognizes Adam, Noah, Abraham, Moses, John the Baptist, Jesus and other biblical personalities as genuine prophets through whom God spoke. Whereas the Jewish people are said to be descended from Abraham through Isaac, Mohammed’s family lineage is traced to Abraham through the patriarch’s grandson Kedar, son of Ishmael (Genesis 25:13).

Muslims, however, regard Mohammed (570-632 AD) as the greatest and final of the prophets. Muslims deny the divinity of Jesus. “They do blaspheme who say: ‘God is Christ the son of Mary’...Christ was merely an apostle,” the Koran asserts.

Muslims dislike being called “Mohammedans,” for the term implies they worship Mohammed. “We of Islam,” they will carefully point out, “are monotheists. People of one God, like the Jews. We honor Moses and Jesus as prophets. And we honor Mohammed as the final and greatest prophet. But we do not worship him. We worship only one God: Allah.”

Muslims pray towards the holy city of Mecca five times each day. On Friday, Muslims observe a special day of public prayer in the mosque. During the entire holy month of Ramadan, the ninth month of the Muslim year, Muslims fast during daylight hours. Muslims are also expected to make a “hajj” or pilgrimage to the sacred city of Mecca at least once in their lifetime, if it is at all possible. Almsgiving to the poor, aged and orphans is another obligation required of Muslims. A yearly 2.5 percent “zakat” tax is levied against one’s total assets.

The “Sharia,” or Islamic Law has been condemned in the West as cruel and barbaric. The penalty for habitual thievery may be loss of a hand. The penalty for premarital sex may be 100 lashes in public. The Islamic codes of justice, however, are not that different from the civil and criminal laws found in Exodus 21-23. Muslim countries have significantly lower crime rates than the Western nations.

Many Muslims, too, are alarmed at the resurgence of Islamic fundamentalism sweeping the Middle East. In an interview before his assassination, Anwar Sadat, President of Egypt, pointed out that the brutality of the Khomeini regime in Iran could not be called true “Islam” any more than the Crusades or the Inquisition could be called genuine “Christianity.” The taking of hostages—especially diplomatic ones—is clearly forbidden in Islamic tradition. “I do not break treaties, nor do I make prisoners of envoys,” Mohammed insisted. Many Muslims saw the taking of American hostages by Iran in 1979 as an embarrassment to Islam.

Mohammed actually advanced the status of women significantly, offering them greater honor than most societies of his time. “O men, respect women who have borne you as mothers,” teaches the Koran. Muslim women were given civil and property rights—a revolutionary step in the Arab world.

The practice of wearing a “chador” or a veil is not mandated by the Koran; this cultural practice appeared centuries after Mohammed. The Koran merely asks women to dress “modestly.” As for polygamy, few Muslim males have more than one wife. The Koran allows four—IF the husband can afford to provide and care for them, and IF he can treat them without partiality.

When the Muslims conquered India, they attacked what they misunderstood to be idolatry and polytheism. Many Hindu temples were destroyed. But there is much to respect in Islam, as in all the world's great religions.

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» It's appropriate.... Posted by: morticia
» RE: Islam Posted by: masthead
The Taj Mahal?
Posted by: Liger on Apr 9, 2009 8:48 AM   
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Why are they showing a picture of the Taj Mahal, which is in India (India is 80% Hindu), on a story about Islam and Iraq? Am I missing something? Granted, Shah Jahan (the builder of the Taj) made Islam the state religion and there appear to be Muslims in the photo; however, that's a tenuous connection at best. How can I trust the accuracy of the article when the imagery isn't even related to the story?

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» Muslims in prayer Posted by: Joshua Holland
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Anthony D'Auria Medical Microbiologist
Posted by: Tony D on Apr 9, 2009 8:47 AM   
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Mike apparently is a person who has a strong impulse to live a regimented life. For some individuals this relieves them of the necessity to think critically. Acting out the regimentation that he adheres to relieves him of the frustration of having to think critically during his passage through life. It is sad that human nature seems to propel one in this direction. Perhaps Aristotle was right when he quipped: "the udder vulgarity of mankind comes out in his preference for the kind of life a cow leads."

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Daisy Cutters and DU munitions
Posted by: jaylindberg@hotmail.com on Apr 9, 2009 9:43 AM   
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I just got back from a flight to Louisiana yesterday and on both trips I sat next to gulf war veterans. One is still in the military and the other is now an EMT.

There is a lot of evidence out there that we dropped Daisy-cutters in Afghanistan before 911 and the biosphere in parts of that country are uninhabitable thanks to DU munitions.

When you add the shit that American soldiers were ordered to do to "Defend and bring democracy to that part of the world" it is a wonder that anyone but a psychopath could come out of those war zones without a drug habit.

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Maybe in NY but not here
Posted by: politicky on Apr 9, 2009 11:08 AM   
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"Faculty and students alike often slip into blaming soldiers for the policies of the government and military."

That wouldn't fly here. This town is one big military base.

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Education
Posted by: samd11 on Apr 9, 2009 2:24 PM   
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In spite of the many derogatory comments made about religion in these posts, religion is helpful to many people around the world. I do not believe in any religion, but I would not negate those who do. Mike's intelligence should not be questioned...he is working towards a PhD. What should be questioned is the quality of the education he recieved. Too many Americans know absolutely nothing about the world they feel they have a divine right to rule. Its unfortunate that it takes a traumatic experience like war to introduce them to another culture and religion. Tolerance and wisdom comes from knowledge. A better education would make these wars of aggression and all the subsequent casualties unnecessary as an educated public would not allow their leaders to mislead them and perhaps even religion would become a moot point. Thank-you Mike and Penny for sharing. And for those who will reassert the percieved negatives of the major religions, yes, I am very familiar with the tenets of Islam, Christianity, Judaism, Buhdism and Hinduism. Peace

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Don't you get sick of religious mumbo-jumbo
Posted by: mapmanic on Apr 9, 2009 2:36 PM   
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A guy has a traumatic experience and he turns to "god." This is so inspirational... what a load of crap! Why don't we afford the same respect for people who turn to heroin?... They do less damage the religionists. Yep, god is "perfect." What the hell does that even mean? What he supposedly created certainly isn't perfect. Give me a break AlterNet. This is just a story about another loser who choses religion instead of reality.

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This latest Crusade referred to as the
Posted by: drfun on Apr 9, 2009 2:39 PM   
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former "War Of Terror" now relabeled the "Enduring Struggle for Freedom" by self-professed "Christian" USA is to control the M.E. oil resources and the lands pipelines must run over them, to assure its delivery to western interests.

My observations of those who claim to follow a religious dogma is to agree the %'s of devout lie with Islam than Christianity or Judaism. With all containing fringe groups that reflect a negative impression that seems to gather more media attention to reinforce these opinions.

The Pakistani medical staff and its student body that share a university I teach at are quite friendly and enjoyable to spend time with, while we question the ethics and morality of what the USA misguided illegal occupations of country's that had nothing to do with 9/11, and the escalating pre-emptive drone strikes have killed many innocent upon the newest front opened with Pakistan.

While leaving all options on the table with Iran, who is a UN-NP Treaty signor having the right to develop nuclear energy to produce electricity, which can be monitored for compliance and the US NSA most recent report stating it has abandoned its nuclear weapons program back in 2003, with no further research into its development since then.

While the tired-old fear-mongering men of the GOP whose former Ronald Reagan "Freedom Fighter's" Saddam Hussein and Osma Bin laden now re-labeled "Terrorist's" continue their ludicrous PNAC agenda of world domination.

And the Republican-Lite Obama not changing its opinion to this continued policy.

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What the hell=
Posted by: paganpat on Apr 9, 2009 4:48 PM   
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Yeah,what the hell is new about trading one addiction (drugs) for another one (religion)? Drugs are the lesser of the two evils.

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Interesting story
Posted by: dealmeinfo2 on Apr 9, 2009 8:25 PM   
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This story is interesting, but rather typical I must say. Its good for the guy that he was able to turn his life around, but typically people do this by becoming religious so the fact that its muslim I dont know if that makes a big deal.


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Addict's personality
Posted by: YogiBear on Apr 9, 2009 11:55 PM   
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He traded the army for war, war for drugs and drugs for religion. All these types are the same. Plus, they universally refuse to acknowledge their personality type is what drives them to addiction.

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Don't even try to justify your religion
Posted by: phillydrifter on Apr 12, 2009 8:49 AM   
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Religion is for religitards who can't, or even consciously choose, to refuse to think for themselves and would rather mindlessly and unthinkingly fall in line behind other sheeple. Life is easy when you don't have to think for yourself but just follow orders instead.

Religion sells an unwieldable product. They will gladly take your donations all the way to the bank in exchange for promising you eternal salvation. That's why it's so easy for them; they have nothing to give and everything to gain, including convincing you that your way is right and it's worth killing for. (It's not.)

There is no god. Get over it. Think for yourself instead.

Religion is an insult to human dignity. With or without it you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion. -Richard Dawkins

There is no god. Get over it. -me

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