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Breaking the Taboo on Israel's Spying Efforts on the United States
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Scratch a counterintelligence officer in the U.S. government and they'll tell you that Israel is not a friend to the United States.
This is because Israel runs one of the most aggressive and damaging espionage networks targeting the U.S.. The fact of Israeli penetration into the country is not a subject oft-discussed in the media or in the circles of governance, due to the extreme sensitivity of the U.S.-Israel relationship coupled with the burden of the Israel lobby, which punishes legislators who dare to criticize the Jewish state. The void where the facts should sit is filled instead with the hallucinations of conspiracy theory -- the kind in which, for example, agents of the Mossad, Israel’s top intelligence agency, engineer the 9/11 attacks, while 4,000 Israelis in the Twin Towers somehow all get word to escape before the planes hit. The effect, as disturbing as it is ironic, is that the less the truth is addressed, the more noxious the falsity that spreads.
Israel's spying on the U.S., however, is a matter of public record, and neither conspiracy nor theory is needed to present the evidence. When the FBI produces its annual report to Congress concerning "Foreign Economic Collection and Industrial Espionage," Israel and its intelligence services often feature prominently as a threat second only to China. In 2005 the FBI noted, for example, that Israel maintains "an active program to gather proprietary information within the United States." A key Israeli method, said the FBI report, is computer intrusion. In 1996, the Defense Intelligence Service, a branch of the Pentagon, issued a warning that "the collection of scientific intelligence in the United States [is] the third highest priority of Israeli Intelligence after information on its Arab neighbors and information on secret U.S. policies or decisions relating to Israel." In 1979, the Central Intelligence Agency produced a scathing survey of Israeli intelligence activities that targeted the U.S. government. Like any worthy spy service, Israeli intelligence early on employed wiretaps as an effective tool, according to the CIA report. In 1954, the U.S. Ambassador in Tel Aviv discovered in his office a hidden microphone "planted by the Israelis," and two years later telephone taps were found in the residence of the U.S. military attaché. In a telegram to Washington, the ambassador at the time cabled a warning: "Department must assume that all conversations [in] my office are known to the Israelis." The former ambassador to Qatar, Andrew Killgore, who also served as a foreign officer in Jerusalem and Beirut, told me Israeli taps of U.S. missions and embassies in the Middle East were part of a "standard operating procedure."
According to the 1979 CIA report, the Israelis, while targeting political secrets, also devote "a considerable portion of their covert operations to obtaining scientific and technical intelligence." These operations involved, among other machinations, "attempts to penetrate certain classified defense projects in the United States." The penetrations, according to the CIA report, were effected using "deep cover enterprises," which the report described as "firms and organizations, some specifically created for, or adaptable to, a specific objective." At the time, the CIA singled out government-subsidized companies such as El Al airlines and Zim, the Israeli shipping firm, as deep cover enterprises. Other deep cover operations included the penetration of a U.S. company that provided weapons-grade uranium to the Department of Defense during the 1960s; Israeli agents eventually spirited home an estimated 200 pounds of uranium as the bulwark in Israel’s secret nuclear weapons program. Moles have burrowed on Israel’s behalf throughout the U.S. intelligence services. Perhaps most infamous was the case of Jonathan Pollard, a Jewish-American employed as a civilian analyst with the U.S. Navy who purloined an estimated 800,000 code-word protected documents from inside the CIA, the Defense Intelligence Agency, and numerous other U.S. agencies. While Pollard was sentenced to life in prison, counterintelligence investigators at the FBI suspected he was linked to a mole far higher in the food chain, ensconced somewhere in the DIA, but this suspected Israeli operative, nicknamed "Mr. X," was never found. Following the embarrassment of the Pollard affair -- and its devastating effects on U.S. national security, as testified by then Defense Secretary Caspar Weinberger (who allegedly stated that Pollard "should have been shot") -- the Israeli government vowed never again to pursue espionage against its ally and chief benefactor.
Fast-forward a quarter century, and the vow has proven empty. In 2004, the authoritative Jane's Intelligence Group noted that Israel's intelligence organizations "have been spying on the U.S. and running clandestine operations since Israel was established." The former deputy director of counterintelligence at FBI, Harry B. Brandon, last year told Congressional Quarterly magazine that "the Israelis are interested in commercial as much as military secrets. They have a muscular technology sector themselves." According to CQ, "One effective espionage tool is forming joint partnerships with U.S. companies to supply software and other technology products to U.S. government agencies."
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Posted by: SuicideBomber on Mar 10, 2009 2:02 AM
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Posted by: masthead on Mar 10, 2009 2:03 AM
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Sharon to Perez: “we control america”
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despite the recent admission by guantanamo detainees, supposedly, there is also an admission by a u.s. official that evidence exists linking the events of 9/11 not to Arab Muslims, and that this evidence had been CLASSIFIED.
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» Your comment shows you simply do no research as is the case with the articles author.
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Posted by: SuicideBomber on Mar 10, 2009 2:41 AM
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Posted by: MyLeftFoot on Mar 10, 2009 3:00 AM
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Posted by: weathered on Mar 10, 2009 3:13 AM
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The choice to insert Netanyahu seals the deal to the indeliable darkside.
'by deceit we wage war' No shit.
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Posted by: uncertain on Mar 10, 2009 4:08 AM
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Hell, we're all a bunch of filthy Anti-Semites for not just giving them the information they want.
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» Yeah, and not opening our bank vaults and just handing them....
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Posted by: Bibsisis on Mar 10, 2009 4:09 AM
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Posted by: dipconsult on Mar 10, 2009 4:13 AM
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Some yars ago now, our intelligence contacts told us that they had heard, but could not verify this, that there were indications that the Lewinsky affair was a Mossad operation. If so it helped get the world eight years of super-pro Israeli G W Bush with a little help from Karl Rove and the Supreme Court - that would make it historically one of the, if not the, most effective SPA ("special political action") operations ever carried out.
The suggestion was that Miss Lewisky was (as the intelligence people call it) a non-conscious agent of Mossad - i.e. she did not know she was being manipulated by Israeli intelligence.
That her mother could have been a "conscious agent" (though it was thought likely that Mossad would have had another intermediary between Miss Lewinsky and a Mossad officer).
That a key element which attracted US intelligence interest was the dress that clinched Miss Lewisky's involvement with the President - for it was put in a refrigerator, allegedly by the mother, to keep the evidence fresh. Indeed this did arouse suspicion that the mother at least had some undisclosed motive for doing this.
That the facts surrounding the Lewinsky affair clearly called for thorough investigation, but, because of the extreme political delicacy of the matter - Israeli/US relations in particular, as well as internal US party concerns - no proper investigation was ever mounted.
We would be very interested in hearing from anyone with better sources than we have. It is surely a speculation that should either be discarded (as come sort of conspiracy theory) or properly followed up.
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» RE: dipconsult - Try Lucian Goldberg and Linda Tripp
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Posted by: obamapawn on Mar 10, 2009 4:38 AM
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Mossad Agents were arrested on 9/11 after videotaping the twin towers collapsing from the New Jersey side of the Hudson River. They were celebrating and cheering as they watched the towers collapse.
Why would they be happy? Because they knew it was the beginning of the well-planned false flag attack on the United States that would result in the US establishing a strong foothold in the Middle East. Israel would have US military bases in Afghanistan and Iraq and probably soon in Iran.
The Mossad most likely worked with elements of the dual citizen Israeli neocons in the Bush administration to plan and orchestrate 9/11.
For much more information go to 911inside job.net.
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» Arrest Silverstein/Bushcon
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» And arrest all media people who conspired to keep the 9/11 story out of public view
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» RE: Mossad Had its Hand in 9-11
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» RE: Mossad Had its Hand in 9-11
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» RE: Mossad Had its Hand in 9-11
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» Where on this site do you see anything anti-jewish?
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» cut laoma some slack...
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» That is also a very clever disinfo tactic... take some of the truth that is already...
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» another Goebbels tactic... ostensible diversity
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» RE: Mossad Had its Hand in 9-11, NEW EVIDENCE
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» RE: Mossad Had its Hand in 9-11
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» David Griffin's strawman?
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» YES, what a sleazy, sneaky article.........Israel is all over the real 9/11 story
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» RE: YES, what a sleazy, sneaky article.........Israel is all over the real 9/11 story
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» Alternet is not powerful, as you say . . .
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» It's simple enough: there are leads...............FOLLOW THEM!!!!!
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» RE: YES, what a sleazy, sneaky article.........Israel is all over the real 9/11 story
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» Good question. But we already know the answer . . .
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» The more they blame Israel the more they show how painful the 9/11 stigma is for Arabs and Muslims.
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» It's simple: JUST INVESTIGATE! (You can stop the BS about antisemitism)
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Posted by: seazen on Mar 10, 2009 4:50 AM
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We cannot continue to be bullied into supporting everything Israel does because we are afraid of the inevitable anti-semite charges that follow even a hint of criticism. A large portion of Israelis feel this was as well (see jstreet.org). The world does not belong to either the US or Israel and it is time to stop pretending it does.
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» anti-semitism is used as a cloak of deflection
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» RE: They ARE NOT our friends, they have not been our friends, they will not be our friends.
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» HOW MANY MEMBERS OF CONGRESS RE JEWISH?
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» More importantly what members of the Homeland Security committee...
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» It's a white, male conspiracy!
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» I think you nailed the problem, Joshua . . .
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» How many members of Congress are Zionists of any kind?
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» Great post!
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» no substantive responses yet!
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» RE: seazen, you said it all for me -----
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Posted by: BiscuitBoy on Mar 10, 2009 5:06 AM
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Is part of this article missing? I'm only getting the first page...
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» RE: I got all 5 pages. Are you getting them now? n/t
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Posted by: ShrubtheWarcriminal on Mar 10, 2009 6:06 AM
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Posted by: weathered on Mar 10, 2009 6:24 AM
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Posted by: dustdevil on Mar 10, 2009 7:09 AM
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The author writes that it is disturbing that 9/11 truth is not addressed enough but he doesn't contribute any of his own. He points out that 4000 Israelis are said to be warned not to show up on 9/11, but he doesn't say they did show up. Nowhere can I find records showing that more than one Israeli died in the Towers.
The author mentions Zim Shipping as being an Israeli spy organization but does not mention that Zim moved out of the trade towers a week before the attacks, forfeiting a $50,000 lease.
Of course they were probably reimbursed by Larry Silverstein. Zim moved to Virginia to be close to CIA headquarters.
The author mentions the Israeli Art Student spies but does not mention they were operating in Florida in the area where Atta and others were training.
He mentions the NSA throwing a party for Bamford but does not connect the dots that Bamford is their "limited hangout" guy. He reveals what they are okay with in order to cover up what they want hidden.
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» EXCELLENT observations DD.
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Posted by: Jennifer Bedingfield on Mar 10, 2009 7:14 AM
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Posted by: symcokid on Mar 10, 2009 8:17 AM
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» RE: Israel doesn't have to spy on US -----
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» Obviously not correct
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» Uh, Joshua . . .
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» Uh, Joshua . . .
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» RE: Uh, Joshua . . .
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» RE: Uh, Joshua . . .
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» classified military hardware IS information
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» Joshua, do you really not see the top level security clearances....
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Posted by: Defenestrator on Mar 10, 2009 8:37 AM
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Israeli Espionage Against the US: A Long History
And that history was written 4 1/2 years ago, since then there have been new spying scandals!
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Posted by: willymack on Mar 10, 2009 8:48 AM
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» RE: they're SCARED HALF TO DEATH OF THE US as so many other countries are
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» RE: Israel is vastly outnumbered and outgunned by everyone around them
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» If they make peace . . .
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» They would more likely fear a cutoff of US funding and weapons . . .
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» permission to Vomit
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» Outgunned? Israel has 400 WMDs
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» RE: Willymack, Israel is NOT vastly outgunned, they have 200 nukes at Dimona
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» RE: Willymack, Israel is NOT vastly outgunned, they have 200 nukes at Dimona
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» R U serious???Israel has hundreds of nukes!
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» RE: Good points weathered and brianct: so why is Congress so deaf?
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» RE: Good points weathered and brianct: so why is Congress so deaf?
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Posted by: Archie1954 on Mar 10, 2009 9:45 AM
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Posted by: jimswanson on Mar 10, 2009 10:10 AM
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“The Bush League of Nations” [for FREE download of entire $25.95 book]
There are major differences between America’s mainstream press and that of the rest of the Western World regarding Israel. Gaza is just one recent example.
America’s media willingly engage in self-censorship. As for voices from the rest of the civilized world, an overwhelming supermajority does speak up for Gaza and the Palestinians.
Why does America’s Big Media censor itself and not fairly present the Palestinian side?
The American Israel Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC) is a big factor. Of the thousands of lobbying groups in America, this rightwing group is the most influential and feared.
AIPAC’s enormous clout—coupled with its willingness to kill the messenger if the message is not perceived as sufficiently pro-Israel—puts the fear of God in America’s media and America’s politicians, whether Democrat or Republican, who wish to be candid and rational regarding Israeli affairs.
The result is that there is much less meaningful debate in the United States regarding anything affecting Israel than there is anywhere else in the developed Western world, including Israel itself.
This and much more is discussed in, “The Bush League of Nations: The Coalition of the Unwilling, the Bullied and the Bribed – the GOP’s War on Iraq and America,” by James A. Swanson (2008, CreateSpace Publishing, 448 pages).
You can download the entire book for free at www.bushleagueofnations.com.
I ask for nothing in return, except that you perhaps use my book to help restore and build America. And, if you are so inclined, please pass along the good word. I’d appreciate that.
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Posted by: Koondog on Mar 10, 2009 10:19 AM
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» Kaminski became so consumed with Israel's crimes . . .
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Posted by: SuicideBomber on Mar 10, 2009 10:53 AM
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Posted by: skepticgod on Mar 10, 2009 11:07 AM
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I know that's a hard truth to accept by many in the Social-Democrat Pettit Bourgeoise Left of America.
But real revolutionary socialists such as Michael Parenti and James Petras accept the ugly fact that 9-11 was done by Israeli secret agents, in connection with Al Qaeda (Al Qaeda was also hired by the US government to perpetrate this mass-murder of 9-11 so that the *blame* would be directed against Al Qaeda and not against any high level official of the neocon administration of the US government.)
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Posted by: somethingwronghere on Mar 10, 2009 12:06 PM
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Clearly they have been passing on teachings, technology and their "craft" to our police departments using companies like Taser International.
Clearly there is some very brainwashed christain zionists in the USA who support this, just look at all the recent GOP conventions completely making a mockery of themselves for Israel/AIPAC.
Clearly the government, not the Israeli people but whatever military faction this government is is involved up to its eyeballs in spying & crime through-out the US using this illuminazi nonsense as a cover.
I think the Israeli government is trying to destroy us, and I'm not joking with those words. I've seen Mossad German agents running around the US unsupervised.
I think they know alot more about us than we realize and by this time they must know we can see they were behind 9-11, because most of us have moved off normal cell phones.
I sure did after I read that COMVERSE was doing that, it was downright chilling beyond belief to realize that all law enforcement/civilian conversations were being tapped by an Israeli company NSA dragnet.
All other conspiracy theories aside even if they *WEREN'T* behind the attacks, does that not frighten you beyond belief they have this much tactical reach?
What in the world are they doing when a Norman Finkelstein receives death threats instead of being able to speak in public about this!?? Blackmailing the USA?
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» RE: Something Insidious has been going on here for a while now!
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» Oh, my, this is way deeper and more insidious than even I thought....
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» Here is a link to Barry Chamish's write up on the Sabbateans....
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» RE: Scary!
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Posted by: brianct on Mar 10, 2009 2:35 PM
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dancing israelis
Meanwhile, the cuban 5 who didnt spy on US go to jail for years, while a cuban terrorist Posasa Carriles is running free in Mimai. Such is justice in the worlds most brazen pseudo democracy.
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» it's anti-Latino-ism, brian
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» RE: it's anti-Latino-ism, Brian
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Posted by: tony_opmoc on Mar 10, 2009 5:26 PM
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Changing people's beliefs is almost impossible particularly if they have deep seated psychological reasons for maintaining a belief.
You can quote basic physics to the cow comes home - present photographs, demonstrations - and all the evidence you like - but it still will not change their opinion. I almost completely lost interest in 9/11 several years ago.
Anyhow a quick Google search revealed this which I hadn't seen before. In understanding it you will have to take your mind back to the age of 10 or 11 when you learnt basic physics in school.
9/11 The Best Evidence & Science against NIST
Tony
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» Europeans always believed that 9-11 was a Bush black ops and why???
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Posted by: Shankari46 on Mar 10, 2009 6:46 PM
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» Why does Alternet leave this comment up?
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» RE: emember the USS Liberty
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Posted by: mcgoo on Mar 10, 2009 10:05 PM
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Y'all find the answer in John Mearsheimer's book, co-written with that other anti-Semite, Stephen Walt, "The Israeli Lobby and U.S. Foreign Policy". How can the Lobby be so powerful?
The political apathy of the majority of the American citizens allows a relatively small number of voices to be amplified in our government. Do you think Obama would have ever been elected, if he didn't grovel before AIPAC, just as John McCain did?
One of the first orders of business in the 111th Congress was H.Res. 34 and S.Res. 10, supporting Israel's right to defend itself, and H.Res 37 condemning Hamas. Any legislator not supporting the aforementioned resolutions is effectively sounding a knell announcing the end of his/her political career.
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Posted by: nadine85 on Mar 12, 2009 1:57 PM
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I just wanted to say that I am no fan of Israel whatsoever, but I'm suspicious of the comments here that essentially say we should drop Israel and get cozy with Hamas. They remind me of the comments made on other sites by pro-Israel zombies in response to the slightest criticism, "maybe we should just give the terrorists nukes to make it even, maybe we should send military aid to alqaeda" ad nauseum.
I long for the day when the US withdraws from this self-destructive "special relationship", but why embrace anyone else? We do not need to go searching for another hypocritical ally to prop up.
Also, comments saying we should pursue an alliance with Hamas by someone named "SuicideBomber" just reek of propaganda. Meaning, if you want to limit Israeli influence in the US, you must be a terrorist-sympathizer.
My God, it's like the Gaza assault all over again.
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Posted by: HappyKlaus on Mar 12, 2009 5:10 PM
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Let's make it socially impolite to use the phrase "War on Terror", and let's ritually disembowel our military.
Then we won't have to worry at all about Israelis spying on us, because we will be too busy licking Islamo-fascist boots and praying to Mecca five times a day.
Have you got your 72 hookers in Heaven picked out yet? That's what is coming folks.
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Posted by: Nuuon on Mar 12, 2009 8:18 PM
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And there you have it. This article was merely a media "deep cover" op the real purpose of which is to cover the butt of the Israeli government and its hands-on role in carrying out the dirty work of American neocons and their effort to jump start their conquering of the world by creating "a new Pearl Harbor" (The "new Pearl Harbor" didn't quite work, so they decided to crash the global economy instead-- a bit more costly for 'them', but then, what the heck: they can afford it, we can't).
Needless to say, I didn't bother reading the rest of the article since it was clearly tainted by the hand of the hidden government's ongoing (and semi-permanent) operation geared toward covering the tracks of the mass killers of 9/11. So instead of bothering to read the rest of this propaganda piece I jumped write to the comments, just for a little entertainment. I kid you not.
You just can't trust Alternet.
I'll say it again: You just can't trust Alternet (nor for that manner, many of their wannabe writers).
So let's move on. . .
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Action Denied: Blacklisted Item Found
http://www.alternet.org/audits/1..._states/? page=3
It appears that the story is even too much for the editors over at PropagandaDig, because the same message was returned upon attempting to email them a query about why the story was blacklisted.
Robert Scheer is on the masthead at Truthdig. He likes to rail against blacklisting, or perhaps only when those of a certain religion or political bent are blacklisted. He is the chief editor over there. He either knows and is complicit in this blacklisting process, or he should know about it but for some reason doesn't know what is going on in his organization.
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READ HERE
http://www.redicecreations.com
"The word 'liberty' brings society into conflict with all the powers, even with that of Nature and of God. That is why when we come into power, we must strike the word 'liberty' from our human dictionary, as being the symbol of bestial power, which turns the populace into blood-thirsty animals."
"Thus the government of the Gentiles, which we taught to look only on the showy side of affairs, as we present these to them, will even look upon us as benefactors and saviors of humanity."
This is serious stuff, definitely real it looks like!
The strange plans the Zionists have for everybody are not some fiction, they are really going on and no it isn't a Jewish conspiracy its a total Zionist conspiracy designed to use Jews & Gentiles and even discredit them!
These followers of Shabatazi Tsvi appear to be real people who have a warped backwards view of the land of Israel, want to crown King Rothschild and rule as a Globalist government!
It must be talked about in public circles that clearly certain spies in the NSA and elsewhere, are from Israel, and are very likely a part of the Sabbatean Zionist movement.
It all is pretty ominous and certainly threw me for a loop, because the one enemy I have trouble fighting against is one from the line of David or Daniel in other words apostate Donmeh Jews.
Isrel's government appears to be these people. How can they do this and say things like that about entire groups of people?
Shabatai Tsvi appears to be alive and well in the Military Industrial Complex.
Everyone should study this and remember they are no longer Jews, these Zionists now worship something very dark.
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